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Steve Walsh in trouble. Again!


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news on 16 Dec 2008 at 06:47
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Not for the first time top referee Steve Walsh of New Zealand could be in hot water – and not for any refereeing decision.

Rugby 365′s Jan de Koning reports that the most recent incident occurred during the SANZAR conference in Sydney in preparation for the 2009 Super 14, according to the New Zealand Herald.
Walsh who has been refereeing for 20 years but is only 36, has been at the top of the refereeing tree for some time. He started refereeing representative rugby in New Zealand in 1994. He has refereed at two World Cups which included a quarterfinal in 2003 and a semifinal in 2007 and in 2007 he refereed the Super 14 Final but just recently has missed out on opportunities – first, it seems, through loss of form and then through injury.

He was to have refereed two Tests last month – France vs Argentina in Marseilles and England vs Australia at Twickenham. He was forced through injury to withdraw.

At the meeting in Sydney the new panel of merit referees for Super 14 matches was drawn up. Walsh was one of the nine referees chosen, but there is now doubt if this will actually happen.

At the meeting referees and their managers are present along with coaches from the 14 sides. On the second morning, at a meeting due to start at 09.30, he was so under the influence of alcohol that his New Zealand boss sent him out to sleep it off. He was told not to be at the next day’s meeting which was solely for referees.

There have been other unhappy incidents in the career of this outstanding referee. At the 2003 World Cup he had an argument with one of the England trainers Dave Reddin and was suspended for a few days, though he probably deserves credit for being a truthful witness.

During the Lions’ tour of 2005 he was involved in a dispute with wing Shane Horgan and the IRB suspended him for four months for verbal abuse. He was not appointed to ant Tests in November 2005.

Earlier this year, admitting to a dip[ in fitness and form, Walsh was not appointed to any June Tests or Tri-Nations Tests. November was to mark a comeback of sorts.

The matter is now an employment issue between Walsh and the New Zealand Rugby Union who have a policy of not commenting on personnel disputes.



83 Comments

  • You have to feel for the guy.

    He IS a good ref IMO, but seems to have a bit of a bad boy streak running through him. He just needs to get himself sorted and take over the #1 NZ spot again.

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.12.08 07:11:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • It’s bad enough when the players behave like this, but bad news when refs, are also involved in drinking, they are meant to be above that sort of stuff. I think this guy sometimes forgets, that he is meant to be the least seen guy on the field and actually craves the lime light. Agree when he does what he is supposed to do, he is actually not a bad ref.

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.12.08 09:19:27 by Whindy Reply
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  • Being dronk at 9:30 in the morning. :shock: Long night or early start? :razz:

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.12.08 11:24:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • He also seems to have changed from a ref with a willing ear to an arogant, petulant child when dealing with players. I used to rate him as one of the best. No longer. Although it takes some beating to be worse than Bryce Lawrence. Steve hasn’t sunk to those lows yet!

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.12.08 11:57:53 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) :

    Long night. Think you’d struggle to get dronk by 9:30 unless you got up really early.

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.12.08 12:10:25 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) : did you not watch the 2007 final?

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.12.08 12:21:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 5) :it can be done :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.12.08 12:28:35 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 7) : Definitely. Early start, empty stomach….. :twisted:

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.12.08 12:30:50 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 8) : oh you know how this works!

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.12.08 12:37:42 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) :

    He must have. Bryce was awarded NZ referee of the year. :razz: :roll:

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.12.08 12:39:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • So anyone going to the Voortrekker monument today? :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.12.08 12:41:30 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 11) : los dit! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.12.08 12:57:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Consider it ‘gelos’. :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.12.08 13:02:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • Back to the drinking. Walsh needs help I reckon. This is very serious. Alcohol abuse ruins lives. :evil:

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.12.08 13:06:30 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 13) : dankie :)

    @McLovin (Comment 14) : agree. Tragic.

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.12.08 13:15:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 14) : while they’re helping him, they can test his f£$%^&ng eyesight too!

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.12.08 13:16:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 14) :

    Flip side of the coin though is that if you don’t have alcohol you eat to much.

    look what happened to me :wink:

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.12.08 13:17:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.12.08 13:18:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : Alcohol no alcohol, I vreet too much. I think I’m addicted to bread. :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.12.08 13:20:51 by McLovin Reply

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  • Something else I learned today:

    Women are forbidden to play the didgeridoo.

    Makes women infertile.

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.12.08 13:51:35 by McLovin Reply

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  • I would have thought women playing with the ‘didgeridoo’ is what gets them pregnant in the first place. :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.12.08 13:52:31 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : It was the TJ who missed the indiscretions at the breakdown, not the ref!

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.12.08 14:04:00 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : They must have turned a blind eye to his controlling of the Sharks vs Brumbies match where he himself turned a blind eye to every indiscretion by the Brumbies but not the Sharks!

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.12.08 14:05:13 by Baldrick Reply

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  • drunk i am

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.12.08 14:08:42 by PJLD Reply
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  • im also wearing a hat

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.12.08 14:09:20 by PJLD Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 20) : where did you see that?

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.12.08 14:15:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 22) : whatever.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.12.08 14:16:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Nicole Kidman played one recently on a chat show. And upset the Aboriginal people.

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.12.08 14:26:38 by McLovin Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 25) : what else?

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.12.08 14:27:21 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 28) : Nicole Kidman upsets me too

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.12.08 14:52:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Her ex-husband upsets me. :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.12.08 15:01:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 29) : :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.12.08 15:11:14 by PJLD Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 31) : oh hell yes… little twerp.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.12.08 15:44:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • actually, we should do a piece on the similarities between Luke Watson and Tom Cruise…

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.12.08 15:45:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Certainly the same type of mental illness.

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.12.08 15:50:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 35) : he he

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.12.08 16:09:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :
    Could do a celebrity death match with them. Wouldn’t take much to spark off a fight between them

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.12.08 16:25:08 by Ollie Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 37) : nice idea… they both have Short Man syndrome, just to different degrees :)

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.12.08 16:38:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    The one acts the other acts like he is a good rugby player.

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.12.08 16:50:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • They are both religious zealots too – albeit for different religions. :oops:

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.12.08 16:59:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 40) : More like a god complex. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.12.08 17:29:38 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 40) : he he :)

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.12.08 17:31:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • What did Adam say to his girlfriend on December 24th?
    ‘It’s Christmas! Eve.’

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.12.08 18:03:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • What did the grape say when the elephant stepped on it?
    Nothing. It just let out a little wine.

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.12.08 18:07:15 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 43) : oh crikey…

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.12.08 18:15:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Here’s a riddle. :wink:

    What’s the definition of a will? (It’s a dead giveaway).

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.12.08 18:16:58 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : Her’s one for you runners out there.

    Marathon runners with bad footwear suffer the agony of defeat.

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.12.08 18:17:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • Her’s = Here’s

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.12.08 18:18:11 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 46) :
    A way?

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.12.08 18:34:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • World Cup-winning Springbok coach Jake White has offered to become a “recruitment officer” for big-spending French club Toulon, a deal that will see him in a dual role also involving English club Saracens.

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.12.08 18:34:58 by McLovin Reply

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  • Speaking to the local media Boudjellal said White would be recruiting young South African talent to join up with Toulon’s Academy.

    “We will put in place a recruitment strategy to bring young South African players to the Toulon academy,” Boudjellal said in an interview on varmatin.com.

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.12.08 18:35:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • White’s assessment of the club’s playing personnel was equally harsh.

    “Jake White explained to me that in the current the group there are too many players, with many not up to To 14 standard,” the club boss said, adding: “I will not hesitate to get rid of those that I regard as not up to standard. In any case in 2009, the group will be more streamlined.”

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.12.08 18:36:37 by McLovin Reply

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  • That’s all from rugby365.

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.12.08 18:37:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : :?:

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.12.08 18:38:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • If you don’t start drinking in the morning, you can’t drink all day! :mrgreen: :twisted: :evil:

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.12.08 19:35:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 55) : :lol: good point :mrgreen:
    how you doing DB, long time :?:

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.12.08 19:58:05 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 56) : Doing well kette. Hope all is great with you and the kids.

  • Comment 57, posted at 16.12.08 20:03:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • ive been drinking since Friday

  • Comment 58, posted at 16.12.08 20:19:00 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 57) :

    She’s fine. Busy doing some graphics for our new SW competition. :smile:

    In short, she is working like she should be. :razz:

  • Comment 59, posted at 16.12.08 20:19:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 58) :

    So DB has to adapt his comment to say “if you don’t start drinking on monday, you can’t drink all week. :?: :grin:

  • Comment 60, posted at 16.12.08 20:20:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 60) : :lol:

    Back on topic, why does NZ have such crap referees? Lawrence, Deeker, Walsh, etc. Haven’t seen too much of Pollock, but he seemed quite good to me.

  • Comment 61, posted at 16.12.08 20:30:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 60) :hehe thats correct

  • Comment 62, posted at 16.12.08 20:31:06 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 62) : get my last e-mail (yesterday)? I need ideas dude, it’s ridiculous.

  • Comment 63, posted at 16.12.08 20:38:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • hehehe, my mom was telling me stories about Jonathan Kaplan when he was a kid. He was four years younger than me, so I had no reason to hang out with him, but my family and theirs were very friendly. It was funny, he was just a little guy always. One of his sisters was in my class.

  • Comment 64, posted at 16.12.08 20:41:49 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 61) :

    I have no idea but the real question should be why do we have such good referees?

    I have no idea.

    There is no nation that has as many good ones as we do.

    What was the Kiwi or Aus ref who was struggling down there and came out here to ref a season on VC and went back as a great referee again? I see he is nowhere on the lists.

  • Comment 65, posted at 16.12.08 20:43:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 65) :

    answered my own question, :razz: Brett Bowden, he is an Aussie though.

  • Comment 66, posted at 16.12.08 20:45:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 66) : what happened to Pollock from NZ? The few games I saw him handle, I thought he was one of the best NZ refs.

  • Comment 67, posted at 16.12.08 20:48:22 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 64) :

    Not a bad guy at all. I enjoy his reffing style but i have said that about as often as TT has said JK has something against the Sharks :wink:

  • Comment 68, posted at 16.12.08 20:48:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 67) :

    he is one of the reserves for the merit panel in the S14.

  • Comment 69, posted at 16.12.08 20:49:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 63) :will get back to u tommorow,havent been at a pc in a while.it is madness.

  • Comment 70, posted at 16.12.08 20:51:38 by PJLD Reply
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  • Sorry he is ABOVE the reserve panel on the Shadow panel.

    The Shadow panel will be used during the seven matches that the merit guys will ref 6 nations matches in.

    Shadow Panel (Alphabetical): Paul Marks (Australia), Chris Pollock (New Zealand), Ian Smith (Australia).

    Reserve Bench (Alphabetical): Phillip Bosch (South Africa), Keith Brown (New Zealand), Vinny Munro (New Zealand), Nathan Pearce (Australia).

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2008/12/15/sa-dominates-2009-s14-merit-referee-panel/

  • Comment 71, posted at 16.12.08 20:52:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 70) : No worries PJLD.

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : I like this idea of a merit panel, but am very disappointed that Lawrence made the merit panel. He is very poor at handling players, does not manage the match very well. The opposite of Kaplan.

  • Comment 72, posted at 16.12.08 20:56:35 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 72) :

    okay you need to be clear now. :grin:

    Bryce Lawrence or Mark Lawrence.

    Bryce Lawrence is a whiny grape and Mark Lawrence is a great ref IMO.

  • Comment 73, posted at 16.12.08 20:59:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) : Of course, the Opthalmologist from Mpumalanga is a super ref, Bryce is crap, utter and complete crap and should be nowhere near the Merit Panel. Surely Pollock is a better referee than Bryce.

  • Comment 74, posted at 16.12.08 21:04:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 74) :

    But Bryce Lawrence was awarded NZ referee of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He MUST be a good ref. His daddy being IRB 7s referees manager would not have had any influence on his sons career as a referee surely!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    (I am sure no smileys are neccesary) :razz:

  • Comment 75, posted at 16.12.08 21:06:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 75) : :shock: His daddy???? I remember several very poor games he refereed this year, but not a single bad one Pollock refereed. Well what should we expect from the land of the Hobbits. :lol:

    Know why they filmed Lord of the Rings trilogy in NZ?

    to save on makeup costs! :razz:

  • Comment 76, posted at 16.12.08 21:10:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 76) :

    Hehehehehhehehe I still need to get around to watching that.

    and YIP his dad was referees manager for NZ for a while is now IRb 7s referee manager.

  • Comment 77, posted at 16.12.08 21:13:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I would LOVE TO KNOW what the fascination is with the World in union thread.

    It is the most visited thread on the site and if check out the Useronline there is always two or three visitors on there. :?: :?: :?:

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2008/06/06/its-the-world-in-union/

  • Comment 78, posted at 16.12.08 21:17:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 77) : Nepotism is alive and well in the land of the Hobbit I see.

    Oh and give yourself all day, and I mean start watching at 8 a.m. because each of the three films is close to 4 hours. Still spectacular to see, fantastic special effects, Thy should change the name of the All Blacks to the New Zealand Orcs! :lol:

  • Comment 79, posted at 16.12.08 21:22:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 78) : It’s the picture of Bart Simpson. Google image search is a beaut

  • Comment 80, posted at 16.12.08 21:45:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 80) : wazzup Rob?

  • Comment 81, posted at 16.12.08 21:48:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 81) : Eh, not much, boss. Rugby withdrawal setting in. How you?

  • Comment 82, posted at 16.12.08 23:49:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • Conferences and meetings would be a bit exciting if everyone was offered pre-meeting drinks….

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