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Pre-Season news roundup


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Super 14 on 9 Jan 2009 at 10:40
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Just a quick round-up on some news affecting the five SA franchises in the build-up to the Super 14.

There’s no real news from Durban, other than the worrying re-occurrence of Pat Cilliers’ knee injury. With John Smit in the mix as a possible tighthead, I guess Pat’s Super 14 exposure this year may well have been limited anyway. Still, we await news on how serious it is this time around. Albert van den Berg looks likely to miss the first few rounds, having had shoulder surgery during the off season, while neither Bismarck du Plessis nor Jacques Botes is training with the team yet. Coach Plumtree expects both to be back soon.

The Stormers are looking pretty good, with only Brian Mujati, Conrad Jantjes and Willem de Waal as injury concerns at this stage. Rassie Erasmus is a long way from settling his squad and it looks as though a fair few of the youngsters who put their hands up in the Currie Cup will get a look in, amongst them promising loose forward Nick Koster.

The Lions are also looking all right from an injury perspective, the big news there being the return to fitness of Andre Pretorius – but for how long? American Todd Clever will bolster the loose forward ranks, while Ernst Joubert remains unavailable for the first month or so. Baywatch Grobbelaar will captain the side. At this stage, a likely Lions first-choice backline would comprise Janno Vermaak, Pretorius, Henno Mentz, Doppies la Grange, Jacques Fourie, Ashwin Willemse and Louis Ludick, which appears a pretty potent combination. Dare Lions fans cling to any hope for 2009? Only time will tell.

The Bulls have suffered a few training-related injuries, with Heini Adams and Derick Kuün both going down recently. There is something of a hooker crisis, with both Chilliboy Rallepele and Bandise Maku also suffering from niggles. Neither JP Nel nor Jaco van der Westhuizen have returned from Japan yet, either, although there is some good news; AWOL defence coach John McFarland has apparently returned to his post, although his dispute with his employers remains unresolved.

The Cheetahs hope to have captain Juan Smith available for their warm up matches against the Sharks and Bulls – that’s according to former Bulls coach Eugene van Wyk, who is the new Cheetahs manager. Reports from Bloemfontein suggest that Meyer Bosman will be the first-choice flyhalf for the team in 2009, with last year’s playmaker Jacques-Louis Potgieter shifting to inside centre. Expect a radically different back division from last year, which may take some time to gel. JW Jonker seems to have the inside lane on the other centre berth at this stage, although Boland captain Piet van Zyl will also fancy his chances of a run.



94 Comments

  • sorry rob. with all the chit chat, forgot to read your masterpiece.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.01.09 11:52:38 by try time Reply
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  • ok the other sharks news that should be in every week is the question: is john going to gamble on frans at 10? this is the only real worry at the sharks. maybe just like frans turned from hero to git over christmas last year, maybe he has gone from git to hot shit this christmas. we can hope.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.01.09 11:56:10 by try time Reply
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  • the stormers’ success depends on one thing, teamwork. they have the personnel, just the egos keep getting in the way.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.01.09 11:57:50 by try time Reply
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  • as i have said elsewhere, this is the lions last stand. if they can keep injuries at bay, this is their best chance. if they fail again they might as well pack up the team and move to greener pastures.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.01.09 11:59:47 by try time Reply
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  • bulls are on the fence, they are suffering from arrogance. there seems to be a split in the team. they will do well, but i don’t see fireworks, too many loskops in the team.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.01.09 12:02:06 by try time Reply
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  • cheetahs, again couldn’t hold on to a few experienced players to settle the lighties. could go either way for them the best they can hope for is a top 6. depth will be their demise again.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.01.09 12:04:17 by try time Reply
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  • At the moment according to bet365 the odds for winning the super 14 is as follows:

    Crusaders 9/4

    Canes 4/1

    Sharks 13/2

    Blues 9/1

    Tahs, Bulls & Stormers 10/1

    Chiefs, Brumbies 14/1

    Force 25/1

    Reds 33/1

    Highlanders, Cheetahs 66/1

    Lions 150/1

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.01.09 13:04:45 by McLovin Reply
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  • 150/1? Could make some money…

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.01.09 13:49:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Probably not

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.01.09 13:50:58 by PJLD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : I’ll give you odds of 1,500,000,000,000,000/1 :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.01.09 13:51:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 10) : dude… I’ll put down £10000 at those odds and pay all the other teams to throw all their matches and STILL emerge a Sterling Millionaire.

    You want to reconsider?

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.01.09 14:16:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : That would be cheating…. :razz:

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.01.09 14:17:40 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) : for that much money? I’ll make a plan

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.01.09 14:24:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    For that much money, we’ll call it being a brilliant businessman! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.01.09 14:32:46 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 14) :

    Who prays for his sins and forgiveness..

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.01.09 14:34:31 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 15) : I’ll toss a few grand into the collection plate, no worries :)

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.01.09 14:36:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • I miss oubaas :neutral:

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.01.09 14:37:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Where’s he gone?

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.01.09 14:40:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : With all that money you can start your own church. Then all’s forgiven. :wink:

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.01.09 14:40:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • Speaking of money, don’t forget to buy your euro lotto tickets. £50mil up for grabs this evening. :cool:

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.01.09 14:41:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) :

    So does Kette!

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.01.09 14:42:03 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • I miss holidays

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.01.09 14:44:28 by PJLD Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 18) : Yanbu, or somesuch. Should be back later today or tomorrow.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.01.09 14:49:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 22) :

    Whats that?? :shock:

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.01.09 14:50:32 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 22) : hey – at least it’ll soon be Super 14 time again. Shit, where dose the time go?

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.01.09 14:53:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Sounds lovely. :smile:

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.01.09 14:53:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : The last company i worked for just called me 2 days ago asking me to come back, they have 3 plasmas and less Friday work than this sweatshop….hmmmmm

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.01.09 14:57:01 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 27) : do it… we miss your constant presence here. They want to give you more moolah?

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.01.09 15:04:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Yeah a lil, plus being able to sleep at night would rock.

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.01.09 15:07:10 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 29) : what, are you permanantly on call? That’s f*kin awful!

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.01.09 15:10:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Never on call, but the ‘druk’ here is another thing.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.01.09 15:14:07 by PJLD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : you didn’t read the fine print, this bet has to be made up front in Zim dollars. you get paid out in zim dollars at the end of the s14, but because inflation in zim is 200000000000000000/1 you lose even if you win.

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.01.09 15:14:52 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 32) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.01.09 15:17:18 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 29) : Sounds like a no brainer. The great thing about being asked back is that they can’t give you the kak that made you leave. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.01.09 15:19:57 by klempie Reply

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  • actually that isn’t a bad business plan. i’m opening a betting shop that only bets in zim dollars. i’ll always win.

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.01.09 15:21:14 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 35) : No here’s a guy that would make a great author for the Mills & Boon series. ;)

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.01.09 15:25:51 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 36) : Now

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.01.09 15:28:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 32) : I think the pound is heading the same way as the zim$ :)

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.01.09 15:30:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 7) : I’m interested to know why the Tah’s( being finalists last year ) only get odds of 10/1.
    @try time (Comment 6) : Cheetah’s just doesn’t have the experience…my Dad is a big Cheetah supporter( he grew up in Bloem ), but he even told me that he will be supporting the Sharks this year as his team are no-hopers

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.01.09 15:30:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : They were lucky last year. :wink:

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.01.09 15:32:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : but if you think back on last season they lost 5-7 games in the last 5 minutes. a little more mental focus and clever substituting could change those results this year. but i agree they just don’t have the experience depth.

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.01.09 15:32:58 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : they had a strong team and waugh. but with lyons leaving it puts more pressure on waugh and he’ll burn out.

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.01.09 15:34:19 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : it has strengthened a little this week. but it was seriously looking as if the euro would overtake it. that would put panic on the ftse.

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.01.09 15:36:12 by try time Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 34) : liked the last gig, only thing it was booooring, went looking for a challenge and ended up biting off more than i could chew.

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.01.09 15:36:34 by PJLD Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 41) : I feel sorry for the Cheetahs to a certain extent, I always liked their style of play , but they where never able to make the step up from the CC to Super 14 level.

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.01.09 15:39:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 44) : survivor?

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.01.09 15:42:30 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 45) : yeah but again it is administrators. keep your stars for three seasons instead of selling them to fund your union. they need to consolidate and make players sign 2-3 year contracts.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.01.09 15:42:30 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 47) : Ja but they players arent going to sign long term 5k a month contracts ja know warramean?

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.01.09 15:46:37 by PJLD Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 47) : Bloem is still the best breeding groud of good rugby players in the country, hey but it’s a professional game now and if the Sharks can pay more, why not :grin:

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.01.09 15:47:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • How come Juan Smith is still with the Cheetahs? Surely he can command a much higher salary elsewhere in SA. :???:

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.01.09 15:49:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 50) : They are probably spending half their budget on just him. :razz:

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.01.09 15:53:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 48) : exactly thats why the admin guys need to take a pay cut to get an increase. pump the money into the players and then when the team is doing well, take the cream.

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.01.09 15:55:21 by try time Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 51) : That wouldn’t surprise me. Maybe he just likes bloem. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.01.09 15:57:12 by McLovin Reply

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  • but this is why sa rugby should control the contracts of the top 90 players in the country. that way we don’t get guys sitting in the stands while other teams are scraping along due to lack of depth.

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.01.09 15:57:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 52) : Bloemfontein is nothing more than a big town and they hardly ever get good crowds, I just don’t think they can compete with the bigger unions financially

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.01.09 15:57:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 52) : Sounds a bit like sound logic now doesnt it.

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.01.09 15:57:28 by PJLD Reply
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  • most sharks support comes from the farms. the same will happen in bloem. build a team they will come. thats why we battle to fill the stadium when we have friday night games.

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.01.09 15:58:40 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 54) : Agreed , but where will the Sharks source there player from then :wink:

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.01.09 15:59:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 53) : Well they do have the hottest pops in SA imho. ;)

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.01.09 16:00:22 by klempie Reply

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  • pops? like females?

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.01.09 16:02:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • TT. In case you didn’t get the Mills and Boon crack, we were talking about it yesterday. The Poms are bringing out a rugby flavoured Mills & Boon. It reminded me of your Days of Our Lives contributions on Sharks Rugby. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.01.09 16:06:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 60) : yeh

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.01.09 16:08:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 62) : They’re not bad. Suppose all those young ladies from the university running around must help.

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.01.09 16:13:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 63) : Those are the ones I’m talking about. ;)

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.01.09 16:16:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 64) : Must be that fresh country air that keeps them in such good shape.

  • Comment 65, posted at 09.01.09 16:23:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 64) : Aren’t they a bit ‘conservative’? :wink:

  • Comment 66, posted at 09.01.09 16:24:15 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 65) : It’s the Japie genes too. :)

  • Comment 67, posted at 09.01.09 16:26:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 66) : On the contrary, those platteland dorpies is te still vir hulle.

  • Comment 68, posted at 09.01.09 16:27:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 68) : All my bags are packed im going to Bloem!

  • Comment 69, posted at 09.01.09 16:30:35 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 69) : Wait for me. I coming too. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 09.01.09 16:33:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 67) : Those same Genes gave us the Bulls. :twisted: Suppose you win some, you lose some. :roll:

  • Comment 71, posted at 09.01.09 16:35:12 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 71) : Yeh but look at the Bulls Babes. :cool:

  • Comment 72, posted at 09.01.09 16:38:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 72) : I wonder if they’ll be doing something different this year, like wearing cowboy outfits maybe. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 73, posted at 09.01.09 16:40:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 72) : Makes me wonder why the Cheetahs don’t have such good ones. Sometimes it seems they recruit at the local primary school.

  • Comment 74, posted at 09.01.09 16:43:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 73) : There’s no way one call those outfits. There’s too little. :wink:

  • Comment 75, posted at 09.01.09 16:45:50 by klempie Reply

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  • Right I’m outta here. Have a good weekend chaps.

  • Comment 76, posted at 09.01.09 16:53:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : adios.

  • Comment 77, posted at 09.01.09 16:53:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • Cheetah girls have there own site.

    http://www.vodacomcheetahgirls.co.za/bios.html

  • Comment 78, posted at 09.01.09 16:53:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : cheers pal. Lekker weekend

  • Comment 79, posted at 09.01.09 17:18:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • sorry for disappearing yesterday. boss had something for me to do b4 i could go home.

  • Comment 80, posted at 10.01.09 06:58:43 by try time Reply

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  • Not sure if it was mentioned or not but, I see that SANZAR has extended the deadline for squad submissions to allow for submission of the squad one week before the competition starts.

  • Comment 81, posted at 10.01.09 18:45:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 81) : oh yeah – meant to mention that.

    Welcome back. How was the drive?

  • Comment 82, posted at 10.01.09 19:06:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Drive was MOER long,

    I did just over 1900km’s in the last 24 hours. :oops:

  • Comment 83, posted at 10.01.09 19:09:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • It seems like the POMS are having a bit of a cold snap.

    Three GP games postponed in 2 weeks. :shock:

  • Comment 84, posted at 10.01.09 19:14:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 84) : good news for me. SB neglected to send out reminder emails, so I missed some picks

  • Comment 85, posted at 10.01.09 19:23:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • ONLY Ice picked Saints to win against Leicester and currently the score is 10-0 to Saints after 23minutes. :shock:

  • Comment 86, posted at 10.01.09 19:25:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 85) :

    I noticed the absence of those emails.

    SB has gone to the dogs. All their stats on % of picks for which team etc has stopped working for a few weeks now.

  • Comment 87, posted at 10.01.09 19:27:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 86) : voldy reckon Oom Heynie is moving to PE, not going back to Leicester

  • Comment 88, posted at 10.01.09 19:27:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 87) : we need a NEW competition :)

  • Comment 89, posted at 10.01.09 19:27:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 89) :

    THAT WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What can we come up with at short notice??????????????

    let’s put our thinking caps on. :razz:

  • Comment 90, posted at 10.01.09 19:59:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hey who are the drunkards voting for Rose in the Poll? :wink:

  • Comment 91, posted at 10.01.09 20:02:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Bissie not in training yet…and Henno leaving us for Lions…Geez man!

  • Comment 92, posted at 10.01.09 20:17:04 by Debs Reply

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  • @Debs (Comment 92) : Bis will be ok, I’m sure. If not, we have John and Skip/Burds for the first few rounds.

    Debs – you doing ok?

  • Comment 93, posted at 10.01.09 20:50:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 86) :

    no need to look so surprised!! :wink:

    Welcome back..

    Condolences to Debs and her family..Thinking of you.

  • Comment 94, posted at 12.01.09 09:12:18 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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