Leave Meyer alone

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content on 12 Jan 2009 at 11:06
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You know I have never been the world’s biggest fan of Heyneke Meyer’s coaching style. Aside from that, I have nothing but deepest sympathy for the situation in which the former Bulls supremo finds himself and my wish is that everyone would afford him the space he needs while he supports his family through an undoubtedly difficult time.

There was a shockingly speculative article on Keo this weekend, linking Meyer with a Director of Coaching role at the currently defunct Southern Spears. To make matters worse, the writer, Simon Borchardt, chose to reveal details about Meyer’s family circumstances that have to date remained private, as well they should have. I guess about the only saving grace here is that Borchardt’s version of these particular events is likely to be about as accurate as most other things he writes.

Have you no decency, man? Last time I checked, you were still pretending to be a Bulls supporter. How about affording your most successful coach ever a little common courtesy and basic human dignity?

As for the job itself, the ultra-reliable Jan de Koning of Rugby365 cites a source close to Meyer in dismissing it as “premature speculation”. Let’s not forget that Meyer is currently in the first year of a very lucrative three-year deal with the Tigers in Leicester. Shallow media speculation about him entertaining other job offers while on compassionate leave from his (very supportive) current employer casts huge aspersions on the character of the man and, as such, are potentially very damaging to his reputation.

SARU boss Oregan Hoskins has apparently also poo-pooed the speculation, mostly on the basis that the Spears currently don’t really exist anyway and that even if they did, SARU themselves would have absolutely no say in appointing any of the coaching staff anyway.

So, all I ask is that we allow Heyneke Meyer all the time, space and (most importantly) good wishes that we can until his family situation improves to the extent that he can start to think about being a rugby coach again. All the best, Oom Heynie!


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  • Comment 1, posted at 12.01.09 11:09:53 by PJLD Reply
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  • “premature speculation” :mrgreen: I leave that one alone. a bit too obvious.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.01.09 11:14:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : I have to wonder when the would the speculation be well timed and not premature. :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.01.09 11:16:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • I can’t see Heyneke simply walking away from Leicester. From what I could gather he is very highly rated by them & has made quite an impression in a short space of time.

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.01.09 11:20:24 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : luckily I’m quoting directly, so any accusations of redundancy need to be addressed to Mr de Koning, not to me :) He is a great journo and a friend of this site, though, so we’ll not be too harsh on him :)

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.01.09 11:21:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 4) : I have a grandparent who has recently been diagnosed with a life-threatening disease. It is an incredible source of stress for the whole family, as we are all in the UK now and he’s back in South Africa.

    I cannot imagine how bad it must be for Heyneke at the moment.

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.01.09 11:23:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Absolutely.

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.01.09 11:28:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • Well…I am not surprised is keeping the spears in the media…

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.01.09 11:38:32 by Hmmm Reply

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  • And I agree…can they not leave the man to attend to his family…

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.01.09 11:41:59 by Hmmm Reply

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  • However Rob…although his style is based on forward dominating…if not mistaken the Bulls scored the most tries the year they won the S14…

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.01.09 11:43:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • And is that not what the Sharks winning game was based as well…forward domination…and I cannot remember you kicking any less than the Bulls did that year…

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.01.09 11:44:50 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 10) :

    They woulda scored one less if Steve Walsh wasn’t looking at some dolly bird in the stands. :oops:

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.01.09 11:45:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 11) : dammit – can’t you leave me to my sour grapes? :)

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.01.09 11:47:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • I knew of Meyer’s personal family situation for a while now. Can’t remember how or where I heard it though.

    Brochardt however, is known to do this.

    I remember a time when it was keo editorial policy not to quote ‘sources’ unless they are willing to put their name to it…

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.01.09 11:48:52 by MorneN Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 10) : If you had to take out the 35 tries they scored against the Reds in a totally ridiculous final pool match which saw them leap to second on the log, they would have scored less tries.

    I know that sounds stupid, because the facts speak for themselves, but an interpretation is also valid.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.01.09 11:51:50 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) :

    That is true…

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.01.09 12:00:49 by Hmmm Reply

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  • An article on the silver fern…lets hope the Watson family and co don’t read this heading!??!

    Lions to Boerland 2009
    Written by The Eagle
    Saturday, 03 January 2009
    Happy New Year one and all.
    With the Lions squad due to be announced in the not too distant future, I was wondering what team I might pick on 2008 form. Obviously the 6 nations will give the management much to mull over, however, in the meantime, I would field –

    Iuan Murray
    Ross Ford
    Gethin Jenkins
    Nathan Hines
    Paul O’Connell
    James Haskell
    David Wallace
    Ryan Jones

    Primarily I am looking for a side that can physically match the Boks. In the front row Jerry Flannery could feature. I want athletic locks who will go toe to toe with their opponents and Hines will do that, provided he can keep his cool. Alun Wyn Jones and Ian Evans may get a look in. In the backrow Martyn Williams will tour, but in my book neither he nor Rees are big enough to make the starting line up. Andy Powell could well force his way into the backrow, as could Ali Hogg. Jason White could provide good cover for 6, 8 and lock.

    Dwayne Peel
    Ronan O’Gara
    Shane Williams
    Brian O’Driscoll
    Tom Shanklin
    Delon Armitage
    Lee Byrne

    Eoin Reddan, Mike Blair and Mike Philips will be pushing Peel for the 9 shirt. ROG is the incumbent 10. Cipriani is too flakey and Wilko too prone to injury. I think Stephen Jones is on the wane and Hook is a 12 not a 10. Ikkul is the best player ever to have run on grass, and so must start. BOD and Shanklin are tried and tested and can physically match de Villiers and co. Lee Byrne is on fire and I pick him at 15 over Delon, the only English player in credit over the Autumn. I have put Delon on the wing for his boot and pace. Mark Jones, either of the Lamonts and possibly Paul Sackey could play on the wing. Luke Fitzgerald, Rob Kearney and Shane Horgan may also feature.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.01.09 12:02:52 by Hmmm Reply

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  • I thought Simon was a Sharks supporter??? :roll:

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.01.09 12:15:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    Sorry Rob…LoL

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.01.09 12:26:10 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : he used to be

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.01.09 12:32:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 15) :


    But his side scored those tries…if in 3 games or 10 or how many ever…
    Does it not count that you scored 6 tries (or so) against a injury riddled LIONS side that played out all they had in the first half of the comp…
    The Sharks could not even score 4 against the same reds side if not mistaken…

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.01.09 12:32:52 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) :

    So he is a draadsitter…

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.01.09 12:35:32 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : Was a province supporter for a while too.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.01.09 12:36:58 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 21) : Bollocks. The Sharks smashed the Reds by 50 points IN BRISBANE in 2007.

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.01.09 12:41:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    Sure? I went on memory with that one…

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.01.09 12:49:58 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : Easy boeta…

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.01.09 12:51:46 by klempie Reply

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  • Leave him be.

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.01.09 12:56:16 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    When I say if not mistaken…its on memory…which might not always be very accurate…

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.01.09 12:58:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    Never the less…

    The Bulls scored 36, 37, 43, 47 tries under him per season in his last 4 seasons vs the Sharks 31, 26, 42, 46 during the same time…

    So I am sure an objective person like you would not have liked Dick Muir’s coaching style either then…

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.01.09 13:10:10 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 28) :

    So we should build a feature that has a “if I’m not mistaken” in front of most of your posts then. :wink:

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.01.09 13:11:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 29) : maybe add the Lions Stats for us as well while your at it. :wink:

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.01.09 13:17:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • According to ‘The Independent’ Meyer has been given until next Sunday to decide whether he will be able to rejoin Leicester.

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.01.09 13:44:15 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 32) : oh really? Shame, man… I think I know which way that one will go.

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.01.09 14:14:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • How about this for a new year’s resolution:
    I think we should make a pact to try refraining from references to KEO on this site… to mention them is to give them more acknowledgement than they’re worth. The absolute drivvle that goes on on that site is unbelievable!

    And while we’re at it lets ban all references to Puke Watson too!

    Any takers?

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.01.09 14:40:21 by CS Reply

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  • President George W. Bush will leave behind a legacy of Bushisms, the label stamped on the commander in chief’s original speaking style. Some of the president’s more notable malaprops and mangled statements:

    • “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” — September 2000, explaining his energy policies at an event in Michigan.

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.01.09 14:42:31 by wpw Reply
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  • • “Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?” — January 2000, during a campaign event in South Carolina.


  • Comment 36, posted at 12.01.09 14:43:03 by wpw Reply
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  • • “They misunderestimated the compassion of our country. I think they misunderestimated the will and determination of the commander in chief, too.” — Sept. 26, 2001, in Langley, Va. Bush was referring to the terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks.

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.01.09 14:43:35 by wpw Reply
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  • • “There’s no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail.” — Oct. 4, 2001, in Washington. Bush was remarking on a back-to-work plan after the terrorist attacks.

    • “It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber.” — April 10, 2002, at the White House, as Bush urged Senate passage of a broad ban on cloning.

    • “I want to thank the dozens of welfare-to-work stories, the actual examples of people who made the firm and solemn commitment to work hard to embetter themselves.” — April 18, 2002, at the White House.

    • “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” — Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville, Tenn.

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.01.09 14:44:03 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 36) :

    Asked More often in Tswane then elsewhere. :oops:

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.01.09 14:47:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • • “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” — Aug. 5, 2004, at the signing ceremony for a defense spending bill.

    • “Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.” — Sept. 6, 2004, at a rally in Poplar Bluff, Mo.

    • “Our most abundant energy source is coal. We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge.” — April 20, 2005, in Washington.

    • “We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job.” — Sept. 20, 2005, in Gulfport, Miss.

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.01.09 14:49:12 by wpw Reply
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  • • “I can’t wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs.” — Sept. 5, 2005, when Bush met with residents of Poplarville, Miss., in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.01.09 14:49:29 by wpw Reply
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  • • “It was not always a given that the United States and America would have a close relationship. After all, 60 years we were at war 60 years ago we were at war.” — June 29, 2006, at the White House, where Bush met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.01.09 14:51:31 by wpw Reply
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  • • “Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die.” — Dec. 7, 2006, in a joint appearance with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    • “These are big achievements for this country, and the people of Bulgaria ought to be proud of the achievements that they have achieved.” — June 11, 2007, in Sofia, Bulgaria.

    • “Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit.” — September 2007, in Sydney, Australia, where Bush was attending an APEC summit.

    • “Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech.” April 16, 2008, at a ceremony welcoming Pope Benedict XVI to the White House.

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.01.09 14:51:50 by wpw Reply
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  • • “The fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there’s jobs at the machine-making place.” — May 27, 2008, in Mesa, Ariz.

    • “And they have no disregard for human life.” — July 15, 2008, at the White House. Bush was referring to enemy fighters in Afghanistan.

    • “I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office.” — June 26, 2008, during a Rose Garden news briefing.

    • “Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people.” — July 4, 2008 in Virginia.

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  • Comment 44, posted at 12.01.09 14:52:18 by wpw Reply
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  • • “This thaw — took a while to thaw, it’s going to take a while to unthaw.” Oct. 20, 2008, in Alexandria, La., as he discussed the economy and frozen credit markets

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.01.09 14:52:33 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 45) : His brain needs to unthaw. :mrgreen:

    Thankfully he’s no longer president.

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.01.09 14:56:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • His father was an idiot too… but imagine how even he must have cringed to here those “words of wisdom” coming from his son’s mouth. What a Hillbilly :-)

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.01.09 15:12:15 by CS Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 46) : for the next 8 days he is… :)

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.01.09 15:18:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 45) : Hi WPW. What website did you get those quotes off?

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.01.09 15:19:39 by CS Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : I was waiting for some smart arse to come up with that. :razz: :smile:

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.01.09 15:20:15 by McLovin Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 49) : Those were on News 24 last week

  • Comment 51, posted at 12.01.09 15:24:58 by PJLD Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 49) :

  • Comment 52, posted at 12.01.09 15:27:46 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 52) : Thanks

  • Comment 53, posted at 12.01.09 15:39:57 by CS Reply

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    This stadium is gonna look pretty cool.

  • Comment 54, posted at 12.01.09 16:07:20 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 54) : Sharks’ new stadium? :wink:

  • Comment 55, posted at 12.01.09 16:15:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 55) : More like the white elephant stadium the Sharks will have to rescue… :roll:

  • Comment 56, posted at 12.01.09 16:35:23 by klempie Reply

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