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Pat’s knee is bad – but not TOO bad


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super 14 on 12 Jan 2009 at 16:22
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Sharks prop Patric Cilliers endured yet another injury scare last week when he twisted his troublesome right knee. However, Sharks Super 14 team doctor Craig Roberts has confirmed that the injury should only keep him out of action for four to six weeks.

The talented 21-year-old sustained the injury during practice last Tuesday, on only the second day of the Sharks’ new year pre-season training schedule, according to Craig Lewis of IOL.

However, concerns that Cilliers might be out for an extended period of time were allayed by Roberts.

“Patric had a scan on Thursday and it was determined that he had torn some of the cartilage in his right knee, however, his re-constructed ligaments are still intact and that’s really good news. On Tuesday (tomorrow) he will go for a scope on his knee and will have some of the torn cartilage removed. So it seems he will be out for about four to six weeks, which is a lot better than the 6-9 months that it could have been in a worse case scenario.”

Cilliers has undergone two knee operations in the past year and a half but returned to the Sharks set-up during the second half of the 2008 Currie Cup, starting in two games as well as appearing twice off the bench.

Meanwhile, Roberts said veteran lock Albert van den Berg is expected to be sidelined for another four weeks after off-season shoulder surgery, while hooker Bismark du Plessis (hamstring and knee injury) and flank Jacques Botes (groin) were both “on schedule” to be fit before the commencement of the Super 14.

Roberts, who took up the post of Springbok team doctor after last year’s Super 14, explained that he would be back with the Sharks for this year’s Southern Hemisphere showpiece before returning to national duty after the tournament concluded.

Meanwhile, Sharks assistant coach Grant Bashford said he was extremely pleased with the work-rate of the squad during their first few days of training.

“So far so good,” he said. “The intensity in training has been really good and the guys have obviously stuck to their Christmas programme because they have all come back looking sharp.”

Bashford added the players had enjoyed working with acclaimed Australian Rugby League star, Andrew Johns, last week.

Bashford explained that as one of the world’s best League halfback’s, Johns’s input was invaluable.

“It’s been great having Andrew here, the guys have been enjoying working with him. In Rugby League he was the equivalent of a flyhalf so he has been imparting a lot of knowledge in terms of option-taking and playmaking.”

The Sharks will play two pre-season friendlies, against the Cheetahs and Bulls within the next four weeks, before getting their Super 14 underway with a Valentine’s Day fixture against the Stormers at Newlands.

This week the squad will be up in the Midlands for a training camp as they continue to hone their skills before the January 24 friendly fixture against the Cheetahs in Abu Dabhi.



24 Comments

  • Is he back-up for the Beast?

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.01.09 16:40:30 by McLovin Reply
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  • Isnt Pat a tighthead?

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.01.09 16:51:22 by PJLD Reply
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  • “Sharks Super 14 team doctor Craig Roberts…”

    Does this mean Roberts is no longer Bok doctor or is he going to be Sharks doctor for the S14 and then revert back to the Boks?

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.01.09 16:52:16 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Roberts, who took up the post of Springbok team doctor after last year’s Super 14, explained that he would be back with the Sharks for this year’s Southern Hemisphere showpiece before returning to national duty after the tournament concluded.

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.01.09 16:53:14 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 4) : he he.
    @PJLD (Comment 2) : yeah, Pat is a 3, so I guess he’s backup to Jannie and John. We could have a bit of a problem if Bis misses any of the first few games, although with Deon Carstens on the bench, you have adequate cover for both sides anyway.

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.01.09 16:54:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 2) :

    The Sharks seem to be in the process of converting him to a loosehead. Not sure of the reason, I would have thought good tightheads were a rarer commodity.

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.01.09 16:54:56 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 4) :

    Thanks for reading the WHOLE article for me…

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.01.09 16:55:55 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 7) : Actually thats as far as I read :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.01.09 16:58:09 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 8) :

    Far enough to answer my question ;-)

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.01.09 17:01:04 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 2) : They’re all the same to me. :oops:

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.01.09 17:11:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 6) : oh yeah – I’d kinda forgotten about that. Seems a pretty weird thing to do

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.01.09 17:23:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Robster. I timed myself for the first time today and 8 minutes was a bit toooo optimistic. :mrgreen: 9m 30s is more correct. :razz:

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.01.09 17:44:25 by klempie Reply

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  • Right I’m outta here. Later manne.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.01.09 17:53:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 12) : keep going… you’ll get there.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.01.09 18:41:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • My take on the Sharks props considering the strengths of players on both sides of the scrum:

    1. Beast/Deon/Jannie/Smit/Pat
    2. Bissie/Smit/Skipper/Burden
    3. Smit/Jannie/Deon/Pat

    As much as I like what Pat has accomplished thus far in his career, he is far down the pecking order and should expect most of his game time to be in the Vodacom Cup this season. I would also expect that with Smit at 3, both Jannie and Deon will spend some time in the Vodacom Cup as well.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.01.09 23:21:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 15) : Front row depth should not be a problem for the Sharks.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.01.09 23:21:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 15) : i don’t think they’ll do this year. I think they’ll run two completely separate squads in the two competitions. Harris and Mtetwa will probably be the VC props

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.01.09 23:26:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Hmmmm Pat is going to have a hard time getting any game time then. Assuming Smit and Beast get a majority of the starts, we could potentially carry both Jannie and Deon on the bench since Smit can cover Hooker. But there is no place for Pat. I like two props on the bench this way. My only problem is that Beast is probably the best “impact player” but his performance last season has certainly earned him the starting spot. Still think Deon can be very effective off the bench, not so sure about Jannie though, I feel he needs to start to get into the game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.01.09 23:54:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : I’m not sure I like the two completely separate squads. Especially when the Sharks are playing their home stretch of the comp, there should be movement between squads in my opinion.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.01.09 23:55:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • It also makes more sense when the Sharks are on tour to carry just the four props (Beast, Smit, Jannie and Deon) and Skipper to cover hooker. Just don’t see Pat making the touring squad, even if healthy. Also remember, I think highly of Pat, not trying to diminish his abilities in any way, just don’t see him cracking the Super 14 much at all this season. I wonder if it would not be a bad idea to let him go on loan to the Stormers for the Super 14. He is sure to get more game time with only Mujati there. Just thinking player development here, remember, Gurthro played his first Super 14 games for the Sharks on loan, and was returned a much improved player.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.01.09 23:59:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Am I off my rocker or will the Sharks best line up look like this:

    1. Beast
    2. Bissie
    3. Smit
    4. Sykes
    5. Muller
    6. Botes
    7. Deysel
    8. Kanko
    9. Kockott
    10.Ruan
    11.JPP
    12.Steyntjie
    13.Adi
    14.Odwa
    15.Stefan

    16.Deon
    17.Jannie
    18.Albert
    19.Keegan
    20.A backup scrumhalf or another forward?
    21.Swanepoel
    22.Jordaan

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.01.09 00:06:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Jislaaik, can’t believe I left out Waylon. I still think Waylon should consider a switch to 12. He has the skills, speed, can crash ball with the best, and has become a very strong defender. Would like to see him cover 12 so Steyntjie can go to 15.

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.01.09 00:19:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) : he he… I remember suggesting last year that Pat should go on loan to the Stormers. I don’t think the suggestion found much favour.

    Do a search on “Share the love”… I think that’s what the article was called.

    @Dancing Bear (Comment 22) : Reckon you’re close with that 22… McLeod would be your reserve scrummie and Waylon on the bench in place of Jordaan

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.01.09 06:49:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • question from left field… is pat quick enough to play flank?

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.01.09 06:50:50 by robdylan Reply
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