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Depth? What depth?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Super 14 on 8 Feb 2009 at 18:12
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I’m utterly amazed to see the South African media once again talking up the supposed incredible depth of talent at the disposal of the five Super 14 franchises, given the evidence of the squads named on Friday. Talk of three potential semi-finalists is doing the rounds again. I’ve never heard such claptrap in my life.

Lions as dark horses, they say. Lots of talent in that squad – they might just be able to upset a few of the big names. Who knows, but they might be close in the final reckoning. Bollocks! To start off with, they have no locks, fit or otherwise. Flyhalf is a perennial problem for them, with an as-ever half-fit Andre Pretorius not even named in the official squad. Earl Rose showed last year that he’s not up to the task at this level and with only journeyman Barry Goodes to back him up, things don’t bode well for the Gautengers.

Not that the Lions are alone in having virtually zero class in either the second row or at pivot. Only the Bulls can claim to have two pairs of Super Rugby quality locks, although in their case, even young Wilhelm Steenkamp still has some work to do in proving his worth. The Cheetahs have lost Corniel van Zyl, Barend Pieterse and Rory Duncan in quick succession and look set to play Toulon reject Nico Breedt as their first choice! The fact that old Wayne van Heerden has been named in their squad is a pretty sad indictment on the lack of quality in the region. The Stormers appear slightly stronger, in that their first-choice pairing, Andries Bekker and Adriaan Fondse, are classy. Should either of them go down, though and we’re looking at old AJ Venter or the unreliable Hilton Lobberts as starting Super 14 locks. Frankly ludicrous.

The Stormers stand out in one respect, though. They are about the only side that can claim two flyhalves of the required calibre, with both Peter Grant and Willem de Waal reasonably comfortable at Super 14 level. The Cheetahs are taking a huge gamble with Meyer Bosman as their only flyahlf – a position he has hardly played. Don’t expect former Falcons pivot Hanno Coetzee to offer much in the way of backup, particularly given that he’s really more of a centre.

The Sharks will be in dire straits in the flyhalf channel should anything befall Ruan Pienaar, with their backup options being Frans Steyn (woeful) and Monty Dumond (untested at this level). Morne Steyn will serve the Bulls well and his understudy, young Burton Francis, may well show that he has the goods over time. Neither have had the opportunity to blossom at Super Rugby level, though, thanks to being in Derek Hougaardt’s diminutive shadow for the last few years.

Outside back is another area in which most of the squads look really thin. The Sharks look pretty decent in this area, while the Cheetahs have plenty of options at wing. The Stormers are well-served at fullback, with quality options in Percy Montgomery and Conrad Jantjes. None of the teams, though, can claim to have any sort of reasonable backup out wide should a first-choice player go down, with the Lions (again) in particular trouble. Their first-choice wingers would seem to be the injury and error-prone duo of Ashwin Willemse and Henno Mentz, for goodness sake.

Even scrumhalf, which is an area of traditional richness in South Africa, is looking a little bare. Only the Stormers and the Bulls have reasonable backups to their frontrunners here. The Cheetahs, again, are left sucking the hind one – being forced to name Tewis de Bruyn as their first-choice linkman. Outside centre looks thin across all five squads, as usual and the Sharks and Lions look vulnerable at hooker. The Stormers, as is the norm for them, don’t have anywhere near the required number of quality props, while the Cheetahs and Bulls are not far behind in terms of the backup named. Journeymen such as Bees Roux, Jean Botha and Ruan Vermeulen are not the sort of names to strike fear into the hearts of the opposition when they appear on a Super 14 team sheet.

In fact, it’s only loose forward where the talent overflows, as it always does, with all five squads looking well-served and bristling with back-row options. The Stormers and Lions will learn, to their peril, that you can’t make up for glaring errors elsewhere in your squad by naming a raft of quality flankers and eighthmen.

Sorry, guys, but coupled with the nightmare draw for two of the teams, the lack of real quality in depth across the five South African squads is far more likely to see none of them in the semis than three.



141 Comments

  • Morras is going to come on now and mention how the Bulls actually have the most balanced squad, with the fewest areas of glaring weakness. I’m afraid I actually have to agree with him. Then again, they have to cope with a nightmare draw and the fact that their coach is an idiot. It unfortunately balances it out a bit.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.02.09 18:17:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • every year they say we will do better, every year except 2007 they are wrong.

    while i agree with this article, you gotta compare what we have to the teams we will be playing. do the nz and aus teams have depth in every position? i can’t make a list but my gut feel says no.

    one more thing, watch old AJ this season. If they play him as a specialist lock and manage him properly i reckon he will do very well, just think he was a bit tired last season. remember ackers, if you look at him AJ doesn’t look too old.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.02.09 18:59:03 by knersboy Reply

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  • Trust Rob to bring down to earth with a bang. :sad:

    oh well, we will be the Top SA side at the end of the season.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.02.09 19:16:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • While I care little fir the depth of the Cheetahs and Lions, I agree on the most other points. Except one glaringly bizarre comment. The Sharks are vulnerable at hooker? WHAT? Unless I was in a cave for the past 3 months and Bismark has joined the Armed Forces while John Smit has found God and become a priest in South Nigeria, I am not surei follow your train of thought? Should the 2 mighty men both suddenly become injured, even Badenhorst has experience in Super 14. I would also note the absence of most Kiwi players of quality and their lack of depth and still go as far as saying we will probably have 2 semi finalists. Depth helps buddy but you can’t expect every first choice player to suddenly get injured.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.02.09 19:36:59 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • I agree rob. Lions are kak and will once again end up in the last thee. Cant believe guys like Gavin Rich get paid to write such a load of tripe!!

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.02.09 19:47:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 4) : he he. Was thinking, as I typed that, that I should explain my logic. If we assume that Smit is our first choice tight head, then we do have a depth problem at hooker. Skip has shown over 4 seasons that he’s not really up to it in the Super 14. Assuming John is forced to take over at hooker, we suddenly have little depth at 3. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Make more sense?

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.02.09 20:03:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 4) : oh yeah – and I forgot to say – welcome to the site :)

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.02.09 20:07:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • Thanks. Been here for awhile but never felt the need to comment. Haha. I still can’t say I agree as we have depth in the front row as a unit with some versatile players but maybe BJ will be missed. We wait and see. Sweet. Can’t wait

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.02.09 20:25:30 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 8) : glad I finally wrote something stupid enough to prompt you to break your silence :)

    I’d feel a lot better if Pat Cilliers weren’t crocked. I guess Deon Carstens will be fine as a tighthead replacement in a pinch. Craig Burden was also superb against the Bulls…

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.02.09 21:09:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • “While I care little fir the depth of the Cheetahs and Lions”

    You should mate… for the good of your own team’s standing on the table… ALL Japie teams need to start beating their OS opponents for a change…

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.02.09 04:03:01 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) :

    Well see now I don’t have to say it, you already did!

    Let’s be honest though, South Africa as a whole for about a decade has been short;

    a) Quality tightheads
    b) Vic & Bakkes type locks (a lot of ‘able’ locks around but no real stand-outs)
    c) Flyhalfs
    d) Exceptional wings

    One or two rays of light in the last 10 years but our cup has never floweth overeth.

    Tell you what, if I was a Kiwi I would be bloody concerned over the lack of real quality depth.

    Difference is, their youngsters seem to make the step up far easier and quicker than ours.

    It is time our youngsters, and under-performers put their hands up.

    I also feel, and said it a million times, our coaches have no clue how to manage players to make sure they get the most out of them, keep them fit, and keep the fringe players sharp.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.02.09 09:40:14 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 11) : you raise a very valid point. The Kiwis always seem to get far more “bang for their buck” when it comes to their youngsters and no-namers. Their structures just seem so much better that they are always able to put a cohesive-looking team on the pitch, even if there are a number of big name players unavailable.

    SA teams tend to be far more individualistic. Take out a star or two and they fold like a house of cards. Look at the Bulls without Matfield, or the Stormers without Jean de Villiers, as an example

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.02.09 09:43:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz: Lions and Cheetahs don’t even have a decent first team. I couldn’t care for their depth. They should try get a first team and then we will talk about depth…

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.02.09 09:47:32 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • MorneN and RobDylan.. It has always been said. I think that’s why EVERYONE is so surprised at JP Duminy’s success. He was one of those yungsters who made the step up with ease. More like him please. Oh, and some in rugby! We’ll see but when last did we have a newcomer of the year to the Super 14… They always seem to be Kiwis. That said, good thing the Sharks aren’t relying on newcomers. We just need to experience to play proper rugby every week from now on. Last year we didn’t deserve to be in the semi’s (remember the ref blunder against the Canes I think that resulted in a draw and not a loss)… Bring it boys… Can’t wait to see Pienaar at 10.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.02.09 11:44:38 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 11) : No exceptional wings :?: :?:

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.02.09 11:52:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) :

    A very good example would be Stephen Brett of the Crusaders. Damn but that guy is good! And very consistent too…

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.02.09 11:53:39 by wpw Reply
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  • I think we have had quite a few good wingers Morne.

    Carel Du Plessis
    Chester
    Habana
    JPP

    Damn, I see what you mean… :shock:

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.02.09 11:55:08 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : OK This is not in the last 10 years ,but
    James Small
    Tony Watson
    Cabous :shock:
    Slaptjips( I hated him , but he had a gift of being in the right place at the right time

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.02.09 11:58:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Breyton Paulse
    James Small
    Slaptjips

    Cabous and Watson were not exceptional in my opinion…

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.02.09 12:02:26 by wpw Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 14) :
    Yeah…that was a blunder alright…but I’m sure we had stuff going against us to balance that out. :smile:

    I honestly think we deserved to be in the semi’s …even though we were not playing the best rugby. For a second it looked like everything was going according to plan – it wasn’t pretty but it was effective.

    It sucked that after all the tough groundwork we failed to rise to the occasion when it mattered the most. I don’t have a problem with the loss but I still feel we misrepresented ourselves in that semi against the Tahs. :mad:

    Anyway- that was last year…different coach and all that. The team looks good and settled – but they must still go out there and get the job done.

    It feels really good to know we will be able to field a strong 22 out there. Let’s just hope that we won’t be hit by the injury bug – cos having one or two players out will not be a train-smash…(unless those players are Ruan and Rory – ***touch wood)

    Depth? Yeah- I think we’re a’ight…

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.02.09 12:04:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : @Pokkel (Comment 18) : @wpw (Comment 19) :

    So all and all you came up with about 6 names over a period of almost 20 years since 1990.

    For a country with 14 unions, 5 Super 14 teams…

    I rest my case.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.02.09 12:18:56 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 21) : Yea but the reality is – one needs to look at the Saffa – give it to the big fella to carry it up game plan that exsisted since 1906…in the 80′s we had Naas – who was not exactly condusive to outside back play. And so it goes. Hence no good wings.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.02.09 12:22:10 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 21) :

    Jorrie Muller :shock:

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.02.09 12:30:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 23) : :shock:

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.02.09 12:33:22 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 23) :

    :grin:

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.02.09 12:42:40 by MorneN Reply
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  • Slap Tjips was never really a great wing in the classical sense. Rather a great intercept try poacher.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.02.09 12:46:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Agree with the article Robd (except with the comment that the LIONS don’t have locks – injured or fit)…

    Last year in the S14 and CC the LIONS were good in the tight and strong in the lineout…winning oppo ball against in a few games (and I cannot recall that the first choice were available in any game)…

    Mostert/Van Zyl or Senekal/Van Zyl played very well at times and this with their scrimmaging and loose forward play as their strengths (well there only strengths)…until injury that was…as the LIONS had to resort to Franko filling in with the injuries in the lock position (fitness and depth was their biggest problem last year)…

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.02.09 12:51:32 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Dude. Chips was a legend. He scored some Gems, including four against France. The winning try against the AB’s in 98. He was a lot more than that.

    I mean you guys thought Henno was a legend….

    :razz:

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.02.09 12:53:03 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 27) :

    I still have my reservations with regards to the LIONS player management and fitness…and if they got it right (as Loffie has been claiming that a major focus point this year is player management)…then we will be more consistent (players can also build momentum and possibly be more than just consistent)…e.g. lock, players will need to up their game every game to get ensure a start as there will be 3 available lock positions and 4 players fighting for them…

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.02.09 12:54:53 by Hmmm Reply

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  • The LIONS need competition within the squad…and for that they need players to be fit for more than 1 or 2 games…

    The only player that is fit most of the time is Heinke…

    Well maybe Baywatch too…

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.02.09 12:56:00 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 28) :

    Agree with Sauce…

    I was never a great fan of Slappes….but he had a high try scoring rate and scored some tries that only he could…

    That one where he slid underneath the def for about 10 or 15 meters or so…must say…he had tricks…and they actually worked more often than not…

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.02.09 12:58:26 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    This bias needs to stop, NOW!!!

    :twisted:

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.02.09 12:58:48 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 27) : there is no scrimmaging in rugby…

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.02.09 12:59:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) :

    bwahahahahahaa :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.02.09 13:06:04 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 32) : Amen. :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.02.09 13:07:56 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 35) : @wpw (Comment 32) : You guys lost your reading specs? Check the URL :)

    FJ! LN! :)

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.02.09 13:10:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    Ciao, see you in about 3 minutes… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.02.09 13:12:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) :

    LoL

    My Sharksworld link was taking long to refresh (as always) and I typed that out in my e-mail to copy and pace…I guess it auto “corrected” to that…LoL

    Will teach me to read before posting hey…LoL

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.02.09 13:19:28 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    Is “black-and-white” the new Blue!??!

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.02.09 13:22:24 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 38) : you should get a decent internet connection

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.02.09 13:32:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 38) :

    You mean, copy and PASTE??? :wink:

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.02.09 13:35:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) :

    It is here at work…and for some reason Sharkworld takes forever to refresh…it did not do so in the past…
    All other site refresh a lot quicker…even when I have a few open at a time…

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.02.09 14:23:56 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 41) :

    LoL…
    Who knows what I mean…

    I guess that is what you get if I do work and blog at he same time…
    I’d rather check my work than my blogging…LoL

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.02.09 14:25:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 16) : Agreed. He is quality and equally at home at 10 or 12.

    Watch out for Zac Guildford of the Canes. A youngster that impressed me immensely last season!

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.02.09 14:28:32 by Villie Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 39) : I suppose a simialr question would be, were the “Men in Black” copying the movie, or copying the men in Black and White. ie, were they Sharks wannabees or space cadets?

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.02.09 14:31:01 by Baldrick Reply

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  • On the subject of Depth.

    The Bulls will be without the services of tighthead prop Rayno Gerber, who is still struggling with his groin injury, when they start their Super 14 campaign against the Reds at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.02.09 14:42:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) : Good job they are playing the Reds then. The Aussie teams don’t exactly have devastating props.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.02.09 14:45:24 by Villie Reply
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  • My 2 cents about the wings. Sharks and Stormers are fine in this part for the Super 14. Ndungane has become a more than useful wing and the most important thing in the whole world right now is this. When the Bulls won and the Sharks looked so good, Pieterson was top try scorer in the Super 14. Last year he scored the same number of tries in the Super 14 as I did. Zero. This year, he looks like he will be back to his best. That bodes well for Sharks.

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.02.09 15:20:47 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 48) : I also scored 0 last Super 14…. was a bad year! :)

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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : So did I. But to be fair I didn’t get much game time. :wink:

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.02.09 15:27:15 by McLovin Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 48) :

    I think the Cheetahs have great depth at wing too…whether they will see much ball is another thing…

    They actually have the best depth actually…all of the top 5 wings at the Cheetahs have a good chance of making SQUAD at the other franchises…

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.02.09 16:13:54 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 51) :

    Can we still call the SA S14 teams franchises?
    Bulls and Sharks most def are not!!!!
    Stormers are with Boland (and possibly SWD)…
    LIONS are with Leopards and Pumas…
    Cheetahs are with Griffons and Griekwas…

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.02.09 16:16:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 51) : I agree

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.02.09 16:16:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 27) :

    Jinne I should really read my posts before submitting…

    But I only have a few split seconds to read a lil and post something throughout the day…

    What is next…errors with my tenses…LoL

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.02.09 17:14:42 by Hmmm Reply

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  • It’s too scarey for words that Tewis De Bruyn is Cheetahs first choice scrumhalf. Surely one of the other SA teams could have lent them their 3rd choice…would be better! :wink:

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.02.09 22:05:55 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 55) : kind of sad that Charl McLeod has been deemed unsuitable for Super 14.

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.02.09 22:43:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    Sad and surprising…

    Probable team according to Gavin Rich:
    Stefan Terblanche, Odwa Ndungane, Adi Jacobs, Frans Steyn, JP Pietersen, Ruan Pienaar, Rory Kockott, Ryan Kankowski, Jean Deysel, Keegan Daniel, Johann Muller (captain), Steven Sykes, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Deon Carstens/Beast Mtawarira.

    So what do you have to say about this Rob?

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.02.09 08:07:45 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : @McLovin (Comment 50) :

    Julle kan darem n klomp snert praat as julle tyd het… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.02.09 08:21:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 57) :

    Is Botes injured???

    And is Smit on the bench? :shock:

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  • @wpw (Comment 59) :

    Will Smit? :mrgreen:

    I don’t know why we’d wanna leave JB and John on the bench … Gavin must be smoking something…

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.02.09 08:43:27 by blackshark Reply

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  • Seems as if Sir Eli Naq may well be fit for Saturdays game.

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  • @blackshark (Comment 60) :

    What are you on about mate??? :twisted:

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  • @wpw (Comment 62) :

    :evil:

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.02.09 08:56:27 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 61) : Be a miracle but welcomed.

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 61) :
    Who cares?

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.02.09 09:07:16 by blackshark Reply

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  • what does Gavin Rich know about anything?

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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : He knows his vowels and not much else.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 67) :

    I like you guys!!! :roll:

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  • @blackshark (Comment 65) :refer to @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 64) :

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.02.09 10:14:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 67) : I saw an article that he wrote yesterday that got my blood so boiling I almost sent him an email about it

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.02.09 10:38:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : I tend to read his articles and dimiss it as an effort of two monkeys at a type writer.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.02.09 10:41:37 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Aussie are 62/2 chasing 245. C’mon blackcaps!

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.02.09 10:43:06 by klempie Reply

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  • wpw, you see how sarugby.com rated the stormers? I’m pissed!!!!!
    Don’t they know that 2009 is the year of the STORMERS!!!!

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.02.09 10:43:58 by molly Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 72) : Too bad it’s not the best of three. :twisted:

  • Comment 74, posted at 10.02.09 10:48:06 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 74) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 10.02.09 10:49:15 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 73) : Listen anyone who uses an Eddie Jones comment as a basis for an article and think Ross Skeate was a big loss doesn’t know his ass from his elbow.

  • Comment 76, posted at 10.02.09 10:50:30 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 76) : Ross Skeate, thats another thing, Francois van der Merwe was a MASSIVE loss… Skeate, was a massive score.

  • Comment 77, posted at 10.02.09 10:52:36 by molly Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 76) : but keep in mind, Ross writes columns for them, maybe they don’t want to insult him.

  • Comment 78, posted at 10.02.09 10:53:13 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 77) : Agreed. Not sure why they let FVDM go – he looked like a decent enforcer.

  • Comment 79, posted at 10.02.09 10:55:27 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 78) : :lol:

  • Comment 80, posted at 10.02.09 10:56:01 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 73) : They also reckon the Bulls will end 3rd. :shock: :roll:

  • Comment 81, posted at 10.02.09 10:57:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 81) : yeah, they lost alot of respectability there.

  • Comment 82, posted at 10.02.09 11:02:30 by molly Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 50) :

    But your outfits were disturbing…and scared the children…

  • Comment 83, posted at 10.02.09 11:08:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 83) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 10.02.09 11:10:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • A Hussey is out! 101/3. 143 needed off 25 overs.

  • Comment 85, posted at 10.02.09 11:16:10 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 85) : C’mon the Black Craps. :twisted:

  • Comment 86, posted at 10.02.09 11:17:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 86) : Watch your mouth brother. The Kiwis are my second favourite cricket team. :evil:

  • Comment 87, posted at 10.02.09 11:21:14 by klempie Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 79) : but Skeate had such great chops…

  • Comment 88, posted at 10.02.09 11:22:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 73) :

    No I didn’t. Who cares what anyone else thinks? As long as WE know that 2009 is the YEAR OF THE STORMERS!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 89, posted at 10.02.09 11:22:58 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 85) : Oh my bad. It wasn’t a Hussey. Haddin got run out. There are two Husseys at the crease atm.

  • Comment 90, posted at 10.02.09 11:24:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 72) :

    If they win today do they then win the series…sorry have not been following…

  • Comment 91, posted at 10.02.09 11:24:46 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 91) : Correct. But that’s just icing on the cake. All I want to see is Aus being furthered ground into a pulp.

  • Comment 92, posted at 10.02.09 11:27:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 89) : I think you guys are taking Gavin Rich a little too seriously. I heard a rumour that should the Stormers win on Saturday, they’re expecting the Sharks to leave the Currie Cup trophy at Newlands…

  • Comment 93, posted at 10.02.09 11:36:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 92) : it’s the week before the super 14.

    CAN WE PLEASE JUST LEAVE THE SODDING CRICKET ALREADY??? :evil:

  • Comment 94, posted at 10.02.09 11:37:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : I am a fan of Chops in fact i have plans to get some this winter…but the man wasn’t lock

  • Comment 95, posted at 10.02.09 11:40:48 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 92) :

    So where are Aus in the rankings? I heard they dropped to 4th behind NZ…was surprised with that as when I last checked they had less the 100 points and behind all the major sides…

  • Comment 96, posted at 10.02.09 11:42:29 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 96) : 2nd

  • Comment 97, posted at 10.02.09 11:44:42 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : Sorry dude. Read The Rules. I’m allowed. :cool:

  • Comment 98, posted at 10.02.09 11:44:43 by klempie Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 96) : They are third in the ODIs. Still first in Tests. But I am predicting 3-0 to the Proteas. Any series win for the Proteas puts them at 1.

  • Comment 99, posted at 10.02.09 11:45:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) :

    Rob

    I think if all the Board Members had to vote we would decide to let it be and enjoy the cricket comments.

    Your rantings have become very annoying of late… please watch it!!! :???:

  • Comment 100, posted at 10.02.09 11:47:16 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 96) : Sorry McLovin is right.

    http://content-rsa.cricinfo.com/rankings/content/current/page/211271.html

    They were third before India lost to SL in their last game and Aus beat NZ.

  • Comment 101, posted at 10.02.09 11:48:27 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 100) : ROFL

  • Comment 102, posted at 10.02.09 11:49:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 100) : Wes… you must be confusing this site with something else. Go read the first email I ever sent about Sharksworld. There is no board… and there are no board members. I am the law here :)

  • Comment 103, posted at 10.02.09 12:04:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 103) :

    Trust Rob to burst my bubble… :evil:

  • Comment 104, posted at 10.02.09 12:06:32 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 104) : :evil:

  • Comment 105, posted at 10.02.09 12:08:32 by klempie Reply

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  • 58 needed from 58 balls. :evil:

  • Comment 106, posted at 10.02.09 12:13:42 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 106) : Yeh game over I think. 7 wickets. Should be a cinch.

  • Comment 107, posted at 10.02.09 12:15:30 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 104) : you even tried to resign from the non-existent board within the first 2 months :)

  • Comment 108, posted at 10.02.09 12:15:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 107) : Definitely.

  • Comment 109, posted at 10.02.09 12:18:31 by McLovin Reply

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  • I reckon the 3rd win might just be a hurdle too far for the Kiwi’s

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  • This place is ripe for revolution :twisted:

  • Comment 111, posted at 10.02.09 12:29:09 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 108) :

    Lies, all lies I tell you!!! :shock:

    Where’s my lawyer??? :twisted:

  • Comment 112, posted at 10.02.09 12:31:58 by wpw Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 111) :
    Agreed, everybody douse your keyboards with alcohol based cleaner fluid and set alight – that should send a strong message to the jack booted officials around here.

  • Comment 113, posted at 10.02.09 12:34:53 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) :

    Rob must be an England cricket supporter. If I was I’d also want to stop talking about any cricket. :grin:

  • Comment 114, posted at 10.02.09 12:37:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 113) :

    alcohol based cleaner fluid???????????

    I may have to use gasoline rather than anything alcohol based. :???:

  • Comment 115, posted at 10.02.09 12:38:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 14 runs needed 20 balls

  • Comment 116, posted at 10.02.09 12:45:42 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) :
    Yeah, I got some here, made in China.

    Instructions:

    KEEP OUT OF CHILDREN :shock:

    Ingredients: polyoxyethylene, nonylpohenyl ether, isopropyl ALCOHOL, Dimethylpolysiloxanes, bees wax, sodium benzoate, water.

  • Comment 117, posted at 10.02.09 12:54:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Australia won by 6 wickets (with 10 balls remaining) :evil:

  • Comment 118, posted at 10.02.09 13:04:28 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 117) : :smile:

    I know what the stuff is, you just won’t find ANY in this place.

    No alcohol based deodorants, aftershaves all that sorta stuff.

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) :
    I can relabel it and send you some if you want. The scent will also mask the home cured bacon I will include at no extra charge.

  • Comment 120, posted at 10.02.09 13:10:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 119) :
    They must be paying you big bucks. :lol:

  • Comment 121, posted at 10.02.09 13:13:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 120) :

    cool thanks :lol: My address is
    Dune four
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    KSA

  • Comment 122, posted at 10.02.09 13:14:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 121) :

    not yet, but maybe one day

  • Comment 123, posted at 10.02.09 13:14:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 119) : Are they scared the folks over their might be tempted to drink the aftershave if it contains alcohol? :mrgreen: :roll:

  • Comment 124, posted at 10.02.09 13:16:50 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 121) :

    Bahrain is just 45km’s away, I go there for breakfast on Thursday mornings. :cool:

    Never thought I would appreciate scrambled eggs and crispy bacon so much. :lol:

  • Comment 125, posted at 10.02.09 13:17:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 125) : Can you keep a pig as a pet?

  • Comment 126, posted at 10.02.09 13:19:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 124) :

    Not scared. They are just ensuring it doesn’t happen again. :shock:

    Was a case just after i got here of a few Far eastern guys actually dying and one of them left blinded after drinking an aftershave that was alcohol based before. The one they drank was a new version that had no alcohol in it and they paid the consequences. :???:

  • Comment 127, posted at 10.02.09 13:20:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • KSA
    I presume sniffing a bit of petrol every now and then is ok then.

  • Comment 128, posted at 10.02.09 13:20:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 126) :

    Only if you tell them it is a cat when you bring it into kingdom as a little piglet :lol:

  • Comment 129, posted at 10.02.09 13:21:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 127) : :shock: :lol: I love a dop, but not so much that I’d drink aftershave. :lol:

  • Comment 130, posted at 10.02.09 13:22:14 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 130) :

    Medicines etc. as well. Kette used to work in a pharmacy in SA when she was still studying and the stories she would tell about guys coming in for cough mixture etc. :shock:

    None of those stories from the pharmacies over here. :lol:

    You hear all sorts of stories of guys who have gone under from having been drinking bad homemade stuff for to many years.

    Me! I just wait for bahrain and a have a beer or two after a Rugby game. keeps me going okay

  • Comment 131, posted at 10.02.09 13:26:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 131) : Cough mixture is/was notorious.

    So you can’t keep alcohol in the house? That must be against you’re human rights. :wink:

  • Comment 132, posted at 10.02.09 13:29:24 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 113) : VIVA SALMONOID VIVA!! WE WILL TAKE UP ARMS AND KILL FOR YOU!!

  • Comment 133, posted at 10.02.09 13:40:25 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 132) :

    Human Rights????? Wat De [email protected] is dit?

    Things are so strict here it’s incredible. Here are two examples.

    1) IKEA has a nice wall sized map of the world that you can use wherever. however the map was made in Europe so OUR version has a little black square (drawn by hand with marker) on it right over the spot where Israel would be on any map that you might buy elsewhere.

    2)about a year after getting here I was looking at posters in a stationery store (much like the ones we all used to look at in the CNA’s as kids) anywhay and there was this lovely one with the alphabet and a picture next to each letter. A= Apple B= Book etc. Well P= black marker drawn square. :lol:

  • Comment 134, posted at 10.02.09 13:45:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 133) :

    Right after I have posted my last comment, so please wait a while. :wink:

    Apathy Rules!!!! Well sorta….. i don’t really mind if it doesn’t.

  • Comment 135, posted at 10.02.09 13:47:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) : Sounds worse than the Doppers from Potch. :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 136, posted at 10.02.09 13:47:40 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) : Mental.

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 135) : :razz:

  • Comment 138, posted at 10.02.09 13:50:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 133) :
    You sound just like the type of young firebrand we need in the movement. You are now Brigadier General Field Marshall Klempster – go forth and sew discontent on the cricket ovals of Australia and England

  • Comment 139, posted at 10.02.09 13:56:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) :
    1. If not mistaken there was a time, not that long ago, that a certain country at the tip of Africa would also have been blacked out.

  • Comment 140, posted at 10.02.09 13:58:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 139) : I read the papers and pick up tips from the best. You must always be willing to learn from others.

  • Comment 141, posted at 10.02.09 14:07:25 by klempie Reply

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