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Jones quits Saracens


Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :In the news on 9 Feb 2009 at 13:30
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Saracens rugby club have announced that head coach Eddie Jones has officially decided to step down as Director of Rugby after just one season with the Guinness Premiership club.

Rugby 365 reports that Jones, who coached Australia to the World Cup final in 2003, says he has chosen to leave the club for purely ‘personal reasons’ but stories have been doing the rounds for a number of weeks recently stating that Jones has become disillusioned with life at Vicarage Road.

Having served as a techincal assistant to Jake White during the Springboks successful 2007 World Cup campaign Jones joined Saracens at the start of the current Premiership campaign, although he had previsouly served at the club as an advisor as well. The Australian will stay in the post until July 1 2009 when he will be replaced by former Springbok centre Brendan Venter.

In a statement released by the club on Monday morning Jones said: “After careful consideration, I have decided to leave Saracens at the end of the current season. My reasons are entirely personal. My wife and daughter have always given me unqualified support but it is now time for me to put the family needs first.

“I have greatly enjoyed my time with Saracens extending back to 2006 and I wish the directors, staff and players well in the future.

“Naturally I remain 100% committed to the Saracens cause and eagerly look forward to building on the progress we have made this season and ensuring we challenge for a top 4 finish in the Premiership and maintain our strong momentum in the European Challenge Cup.”

Chairman Nigel Wray said that he was disappointed to see Jones leave the club but was pleased that the club had already found a replacement.

“Obviously we are all very disappointed to lose Eddie, but we are very grateful for all his hard work, inspiration and the terrific structural changes he has made at the club, which will hold us in great stead for the future. I know that we will all remain friends and keep in close contact,” saod Wray.

“Brendan has an outstanding knowledge of the Guinness Premiership, following his success as coach at London Irish, and he has become well known and well respected at Saracens during the course of this season, after being introduced and recommended by Eddie as a specialist coach. We warmly welcome him to the club on a full-time basis.”



41 Comments

  • So Brendan Venter will be lost to the Stormers then.

    Ah well, at least we’ve got Alistair Coetzee! :???:

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.02.09 13:38:46 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) : AC is fine. He is a World Cup winner after all. And the WP weren’t that kak during the CC.

    BV is a chop of the highest order IMO.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.02.09 13:42:10 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Interesting. Would love to know the real reason for his departure. Oh well suppose we’ll never know. :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.02.09 13:46:04 by McLovin Reply

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  • they werent exactly ripping oppositions apart

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.02.09 13:50:11 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 2) : Matt Dawson also thinks so.

    “In the world of rugby there is not one person I genuinely dislike other than Brendan Venter,” says Dawson. “He is one of the most hypocritical, cynical, dirty and underhand players I have ever played against. I can’t stand anything about him. He is a bad loser and a bad winner, an all-round horrible person.

    “Venter is an out-and-out thug, you couldn’t pay me enough money to go and have a sociable conversation with Venter because there is nothing I like about him.

    “Venter is a man of strong religious beliefs, which I obviously have no problem with, but he regularly goes beyond the bounds of acceptability, which I have an almighty problem with. The public perception is that he was at the heartbeat of London Irish and that makes my teeth itch. Conor O’Shea was the man who made London Irish tick, yet Venter took all the credit. I thought it was awful.

    “In my view Venter is an out-and-out thug. I reckon every single person who has played the game has done something he regrets at some point in his career. I know I have.

    “I have done things that really disappointed me and I’ve apologised personally to that player afterwards. But Venter seems to constantly go around the pitch high-tackling or running in from 10 or 15 yards with a swinging arm. It genuinely baffles me how the public could not see what he was doing.

    “Even Corne Krige would get a Christmas card from me ahead of him.”

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.02.09 13:55:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • Just for the record, I don’t like Dawson much. Or at all really.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.02.09 13:56:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 5) : “Even Corne Krige would get a Christmas card from me ahead of him.”

    :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.02.09 13:56:32 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Oh, and the above was from Dawson’s book.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.02.09 13:56:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 2) :

    Agree on both those sentiments.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.02.09 13:58:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) :

    Maybe he bought kak players. I can think of at least one :roll:

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.02.09 13:59:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : For the record neither do i… at all.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.02.09 13:59:22 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Brad? :grin:

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.02.09 13:59:42 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Dawson also reveals that he has repeatedly refused to play for the Barbarians for nearly a decade following an incident of physical abuse in Zimbabwe in 1994.

    Dawson was forced to strip after an end-of-tour ‘court session’ and was ‘flogged’ with a spiky cactus branch by Wales lock Derwyn Jones, causing painful cuts and wounds. Dawson says he was scarred “mentally and physically” by the incident and swore never to play for the Barbarians again.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.02.09 14:01:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 12) :

    Yip? Sorry Rob. :oops:

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.02.09 14:03:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 11) : I always hope his team loses on Question of Sport. :twisted:

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.02.09 14:03:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 2) :

    Do you have some inside info that you’d like to share??? :smile:

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.02.09 14:04:14 by wpw Reply
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  • Then came a session in ‘court’ which was just horrendous.

    As the youngest player on tour I expected them to have a bit of fun at my expense even if standing in front of the whole squad with my shorts round my ankles leaning forward over a chair preparing to be hit by a seriously spiky object was not exactly what I had in mind. They wanted pain. Derwyn Jones, the towering Cardiff and Wales second row, grabbed the leaf and whacked my arse. The blow cut me, blood started to ooze form my cheeks and I exploded in rage.

    “What the ****ing hell do you think you are doing?”

    My backside was full of cactus splinters and hurt like hell. There and then I switched off. I lost interest in the Barbarians. I hadn’t minded the other stuff – the drinking games and the Circle of Fire challenge where toilet paper is rolled up tight and you have to clinch it between your bum cheeks, set a light to it and run around the room before the paper burns out. That was OK, but the cactus lark was well out of order.

    I swore to myself that I would never play again. Not only physically but mentally I was scarred by the experience. It was very, very odd indeed and upset me. You don’t easily forgive and forget having to lie on the bed in your hotel room while your mates pull splinters out of your arse. I was angry, really mad. I didn’t want to show any pain but I couldn’t help it.

    Derwyn was basically a good lad but due to his size was employed as an ‘enforcer’ and got carried away. If that wasn’t bad enough when we got home it was a real battle to keep my Barbarians shirt. They wanted to take them all back. I couldn’t believe it. We didn’t receive a bean for going; the only reason I went was to get the shirt and to be able to say I had played for the Barbarians.

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.02.09 14:05:13 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 17) : That are also from his book. Hope he doesn’t mind.

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.02.09 14:06:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • I’ve never seen Venter get a yellow card for foul play. Maybe Dawson is just a prick and Venter prolly gave him a tough time on the field. :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.02.09 14:07:19 by wpw Reply
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  • And btw, they lost to Zim on that tour. :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.02.09 14:08:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 17) :

    Shouldn’t you be posting this in the Stormers website? :eek:

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.02.09 14:09:06 by blackshark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 17) :

    What a pansie!!! :neutral:

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.02.09 14:10:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 19) : He got booted out the 1999 RWC for rucking a player on the head !

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.02.09 14:12:20 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : Bit of a mommy’s boy. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.02.09 14:12:21 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 23) :

    Well maybe the guy’s head was in the way??? :???:

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.02.09 14:17:28 by wpw Reply
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  • Seeing as we are on the subject of pricks: :twisted:

    Cape Town – English cricket suddenly finds itself a laughing stock again, with South African-born former captain Kevin Pietersen being fingered as a key element in disunity speculation.

    He finds himself at the centre of allegations on two fronts: that there is lingering acrimony over his damaging, power-altering “captain versus coach” bust-up with Peter Moores a few weeks ago, and that his apparent differences with another big personality in the side, Andrew Flintoff, are only barely disguised.

    The national team, now led by Andrew Strauss, posted their third lowest total in Test history at the weekend, being routed for 51 by unfancied West Indies at Sabina Park to lose the first Test by an innings.

    And recriminations have come thick and fast, with former coach Duncan Fletcher, now a consultant to the Proteas, suggesting “something fundamental is missing from the England side at the moment and you have to wonder whether it’s team spirit”.

    Writing in his column in The Guardian on Monday, Fletcher said: “That was not a 51 all out pitch and that was not a 51 all out batting line-up … are they gelling properly? Are they thinking as a group?

    “Sure, not many dressing rooms can say they contain 11 happy chappies, but some get close. I used to talk in terms of a critical mass: if eight of the 11 guys get on well they can outweigh the influence of the three who may feel they’re on the outside.

    “But as soon as that critical mass reaches 7-4 or 6-5 you have problems. I look at this side and wonder where we are at. Team spirit … (cannot) be faked. It has to happen naturally.

    “Look at Flintoff and Pietersen. There’s all this camaraderie in front of the cameras, but how genuine is it? Obviously they know they can’t make their true feelings too clear in public, but what happens when the cameras aren’t on?”

    Steve James wrote in The Telegraph, meanwhile: “Maybe the divisions in this England side are as deep as were suspected.

    “Recovery from the Kevin Pietersen/Peter Moores imbroglio has clearly not been achieved. Problems are deep-rooted.”

    At least Pietersen is not under massive fire from a personal performance point of view: he top-scored with 97 in England’s first innings and was bowled by a near unplayable Jerome Taylor delivery for one in the eventful second.

    Players whose selections are under intense scrutiny now include Ian Bell, Alastair Cook, Monty Panesar and Steve Harmison.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.02.09 14:19:51 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : :neutral:

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.02.09 14:21:45 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : Dawson is an idiot too. Second only to Austin Healey!

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.02.09 14:22:00 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 28) : Oh yes. :twisted:

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.02.09 14:26:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 28) : Safe to assume we can apply that to most English sportsmen, including the numerous imports they seem to claim as English… excluded perhaps Ian Botham , Martin Jonhson.

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.02.09 14:26:31 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : Good. :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.02.09 14:31:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • Circle of Fire challenge where toilet paper is rolled up tight and you have to clinch it between your bum cheeks, set a light to it and run around the room before the paper burns out

    :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :arrow: :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.02.09 14:34:13 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 32) :

    And what if you a hairy fekker like me??? :???: :cry:

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.02.09 14:37:56 by wpw Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 30) :

    I notice the guys you exclude are rather big.

    Are you afraid of a “house call” of sorts? :wink:

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.02.09 14:38:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : Nah – i am bigger than both..well maybe Jono is a spot bigger….

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.02.09 14:40:49 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 33) : Run faster. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.02.09 14:42:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 35) :

    TRUE!!!!!! i forgot you are a rather streched out lad.

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.02.09 14:44:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 32) :
    I saw it demostrated by a former Durban varsity player years ago – bloody funny.

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.02.09 14:45:03 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • On some other thread a few days ago they were insinuating that Jones was ducking due to the Saffa influence at Saracens – Pienaar,Rupert, SAIL. ?

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.02.09 14:51:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Can this guy hold a job anywhere…

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.02.09 16:53:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • BV…what has he achieved as a coach? How well did London Irish do under him…and if they did so well why did he leave?

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.02.09 16:57:54 by Hmmm Reply

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