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Luke will play at Loftus


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Posted in :Bulls, In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 3 Mar 2009 at 07:58
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Gavin Rich reports from Cape Town that the Vodacom Stormers have shelved plans to shield Luke Watson from the Bulls and the Loftus crowd, and the controversial loose-forward will definitely start regardless of whether Schalk Burger recovers from his calf injury.

Burger is involved in a race against time to prove his fitness for the big Vodacom Super 14 showdown between the traditional southern and northern rivals. The word from the Stormers camp is that he will be given until Thursday, but it does not look good. Burger did not train with his teammates on Monday and the injury is reportedly still very painful.

But if Burger does play, it will again be at the expense of Francois Louw, and not Watson. The Stormers management had been giving a lot of consideration on how to manage Watson’s matches against South African opponents, where it was feared that his presence might provide extra motivation to the opposition and perhaps attract a few low blows.

Watson, following his comments about the Springbok emblem last year and his alleged anti-Afrikaans sentiments expressed at a forum discussion at the University of Cape Town, is not the most popular rugby player in the country outside of the Cape.

But coach Rassie Erasmus, after initially being concerned at the prospect that Watson might be jeered by the Loftus crowd, now reasons that his team will get a chilly reception from the Pretoria fans regardless of whether or not Watson is present. And if the Bulls players tried to get at Watson, it would mean they take their eye off the ball, and this could play into the hands of the Stormers.

Apart from that, Watson has been impressive in his last two games, and with Burger struggling with form at present, Watson may even be the more valuable player right at this moment.

The other injury problems facing the Stormers going into this week concern Conrad Jantjes, who is still struggling a bit with his own calf injury, and the two props, Brian Mujati and JD Moller. The last two mentioned players are being managed carefully this week, but are expected to play, while Erasmus will have to make a decision between Jantjes and Montgomery.

One almost certain change will come at flyhalf, where Willem de Waal is set to take over from Peter Grant.

Erasmus hinted last week that De Waal might play against the Bulls, and the indications are that he is to start in Pretoria, with his main brief being to play the Bulls back into the corners. From there the Stormers will attempt to suffocate opponents who are never as assured if they are denied momentum and field position.

Fourie du Preez heads a Bulls tactical kicking game which has again been the main thrust of that team’s success so far this season, and De Waal’s selection can be seen as an attempt by the Stormers to answer kind with kind. There is also of course the small matter that De Waal has won at Loftus in important Currie Cup games, including a final.

Probable Stormers team: Conrad Jantjes/Percy Montgomery, Tonderai Chavhanga, Gcobani Bobo, Jean de Villiers (captain), Sireli Naqelevuki, Willem de Waal, Ricky Januarie, Duane Vermeulen, Francois Louw, Luke Watson, Andries Bekker, Adriaan Fondse, Brian Mujati, Schalk Brits, JD Moller.



91 Comments

  • Go PUKE, I mean Luke!!! :???:

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.03.09 08:41:36 by wpw Reply
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  • Good.

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.03.09 08:42:51 by McLovin Reply

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  • Hopefully leads to a few Bulls being sent off & give the Stormers a chance. :wink:

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.03.09 08:43:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • so Grant is no longer seen as the complete flyhalf? :-)

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.03.09 08:44:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : +1

    Personally given the Stormers form i suspect the Bulls could play with 14 men for 20 minutes and still win it comfortable. So Bakkies and Pakslae can take turns resting and get to smack he who shall not be named.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.03.09 08:45:49 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Great – now the Stormers have a chance… :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.03.09 08:49:05 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) :

    And neither is Rassie the complete coach… :evil:

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.03.09 08:54:03 by wpw Reply
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  • Stats from rugby365 :

    Yellow cards so far:

    Heinrich Brüssow (Cheetahs) – fighting
    Meyer Bosman (Cheetahs) – dangerous tackle
    Adam Byrnes (Reds) – dangerous play
    Adam Thomson (Highlanders – tackle infringement
    Wiaan du Preez (Cheetahs) – tackle infringement
    Deon Stegmann (Bulls) – tackle infringement
    Doppies la Grange (Lions) – tackle infringement
    Rory Kockott (Sharks) – playing the man without the ball
    Wynand Olivier (Bulls) – late tackle
    Earl Rose (Lions) – air tackle

    So many for RSA teams :shock: …with this gruelling match coming up we’ll add a few more…

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.03.09 08:54:20 by blackshark Reply

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  • 3 Cheetahs players! HECTIC :shock:

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.03.09 09:02:17 by wpw Reply
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  • L :shock: :shock: K :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.03.09 10:07:31 by Charlie Reply

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  • Ignore / cheer Luke, it will rile him no end.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.03.09 10:21:38 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Why would they need to ‘shield’ Luke from the Loftus crowd & Bulls in the first place?

    What are they going to do that other SA teams/fans won’t?

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.03.09 10:30:11 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) :
    True, and he has had to take it from his home crowd which would surely hurt more than any opposing crowds attitude.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.03.09 10:53:05 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 13) :

    I really don’t think it bothers him.

    He probably loves the attention though!! :???:

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.03.09 10:57:51 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 14) :
    Agreed – glory boy, thats mos why he left the Sharks, “he wanted to win some trophies”. :twisted:

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.03.09 11:01:29 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • NOT missing this one! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.03.09 11:44:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 8) : so only Stormers unrepresented :lol:

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.03.09 11:59:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : wasn’t it old AJ :roll: or both :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.03.09 12:01:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : @rekinek (Comment 18) :

    Good move…their chances have quadrupled… :roll: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.03.09 12:05:55 by blackshark Reply

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  • I think the heading is misleading, can Luke play rugby at all? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.03.09 12:06:23 by rahul Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 16) : :mrgreen: I think it will make viewing of the weekend

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.03.09 12:15:11 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rahul (Comment 20) :

    Well he was SA S12 Player of the Year in 2006 :twisted:

    and runner up to Kabamba for Players Player of the Year

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.03.09 12:16:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 16) :

    I flippen have to miss it :evil:

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.03.09 12:16:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 20) :

    To my GREAT dismay, the little watermelon carrying F%^&er can. :sad: :sad:

    But I am hoping he will end up playing doctor doctor after the match. he may volunteer for a medical study to see howcome someone with a rugby ball shoved up his arse is STILL willing to sprout such shit.

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.03.09 12:19:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : :lol: @wpw (Comment 22) : oops… didn’t see you there

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.03.09 12:23:16 by rahul Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : Floors and Watson… We’ll have a “Where are they now” episode on boots and all

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.03.09 12:24:38 by rahul Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 22) :

    Have you registered with SARU – cos if not they won’t allow you to continue being Luke’s agent… :razz:

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : :shock: Do you need a drink?

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.03.09 12:26:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 25) :

    HOW do you keep missing WPW????????

    It’s not like he can hide behind a lamppost or a 44gallon drum for that matter. :wink:

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.03.09 12:28:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 27) :

    JA ASSEBLIEF!!!!!!!!!! Net nie Brannewyn nie asseblief. Ek is agresief genoeg. :sad:

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.03.09 12:29:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 20) : he had a decent game last week, or maybe his teammates’ performance made him look good.
    the problem with stormers is that all their players try to look good individually – specially brits is on a mission :roll:

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.03.09 12:32:28 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : Something about Pool shirts, I go blank :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.03.09 12:34:38 by rahul Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : do stormers supporters like the man :?:

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.03.09 12:35:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 18) :
    Only Luke, as far as I know.
    I think AJ’s contract was not renewed, never heard of any bad blood there.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.03.09 12:36:35 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) :

    I think one of the reasons AJ cited was wanting to win trophies.

    Luke just left the Sharks before he tore the edges of his mouth.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.03.09 12:39:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : I think there are too many players that have forgotten that rugby is a team sport!

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.03.09 12:42:29 by rahul Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 35) :

    100% correct. They have realised that the more media exposure they get the more money they can make and unforutantely being a part of the team is playing 2nd fiddle to getting money in the bank account.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.03.09 12:45:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : I remember reading sth to that effect last year. But would be glad if it’s not true. AJ was one of my favourite players but had to let him go :smile:

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.03.09 12:46:11 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 37) :

    Has anyone noticed that ole AJ has been on the bench everyweek for the Stormers and is yet to get gametime?

    What a waste. :mad:

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.03.09 12:52:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 37) : Are there any Shark players who fall into that category?

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.03.09 12:53:39 by rahul Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 36) : Opps wrong comment :oops:

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.03.09 12:56:15 by rahul Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 40) :

    Not that I can think of offhand. the only Shark who is regularly interviewd is Jonann Muller but that is his job as captain.

    Francois Steyn was in the media to often last year but seems to have dialled back on that completely. :cool:

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.03.09 13:05:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) :

    Better watch ur language Oubaas!

    You don’t want me using me banning powers!!! :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.03.09 13:07:03 by wpw Reply
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  • @rahul (Comment 31) :

    Like your team did when we beat you earlier this season??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.03.09 13:09:10 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) :
    Ironical then that the Sharks won trophies immediately prior to and after AJ’s Sharks career.

    I’m sure Luke also sited leaving to win trophies. There was bad blood between him and the Sharks and they refused to give him an early release and also refused to pick him for any of their teams.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.03.09 13:09:18 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : Maybe thats why they rated as fovourites :smile:

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.03.09 13:09:46 by rahul Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 43) : WB WPW

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.03.09 13:11:18 by rahul Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 46) :

    watte??? :roll:

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.03.09 13:14:24 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 47) : Welcome Back

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.03.09 13:17:08 by rahul Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    I’d rather prefer you to use your posting powers, so i’ll refrain from any future foul language.

    Sorry I didn’t see you there. :razz:

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.03.09 13:17:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 44) :

    Now if only Rassie had the balls to not pick him. :lol:

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.03.09 13:18:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) : Unlucky dude. It’s worth taping I reckon.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.03.09 13:20:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.03.09 13:21:40 by rahul Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 51) :
    Will see if I can get Kette to record it for me.

    Will certainly be recording the Sharks game.

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.03.09 13:24:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 39) : you mean favourite or to let go :lol: :?:

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.03.09 13:27:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : maybe sharks bite and mag got exclusivity :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.03.09 13:29:03 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : @rahul (Comment 48) :

    Julle bliksems!!! :mrgreen:

    Well I guess I can post another article about the MIGHTY Stormers!!! :???:

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.03.09 13:29:14 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 51) : yes! Just now you get sth that you may watch over and over and over again :mrgreen:

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.03.09 13:31:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 56) :

    MIGHTY Stormers? You been employed by one of the CT newspapers now? :razz:

    BTW I am going off the air for 4 days from tomorrow.

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.03.09 13:32:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 58) :

    I’m off air tomorrow and Thursday…back on Friday :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.03.09 13:49:20 by blackshark Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 37) : go look for the interview I did with AJ last year. He set the record straight there. He wanted to stay with the Sharks, but they wouldn’t commit to giving him a contract. He eventually signed with WP because they essentially offered him a career lifeline.

    There was definitely no Watsonesque shooting-mouth-off-in-the-press

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.03.09 13:50:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : thanx :grin:

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.03.09 13:59:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 61) :

    Here you go.

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2008/08/08/sharksworld-catches-up-with-aj-venter/

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.03.09 14:09:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Ag its going to one long afternoon. Have no urge to watch this slaughter coming up from the brutes. :cry: :cry:

    Moeilikheid.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.03.09 15:33:47 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Going to watch with interest, especially the off the ball stuff by PK and Bakkies on little tWatson

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.03.09 16:47:44 by JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at Reply

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  • @JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at (Comment 64) : tee hee. You could compile a “Greatest Hits” package…

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.03.09 17:02:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : let’s hope so – would make an exciting viewing.

    I must say – I struggle to believe that stormers are so cool about playing with lucky luke, there must be some unhappiness even if well hidden of sorts and maybe that’s what messing them.

    but then I suppose there is no team where every player loves one another – so the luke factor – no excuse.

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.03.09 17:16:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) :

    Jake White did his level best to keep the Luke factor out of his set-up… IMO that says it all regarding the Stormers. :evil: JdV holding it all together IMO but barely

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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) : there is a HUGE amount of internal strife. Why do you think Frikkie and Rassie have instituted a virtual media blackout? They only let Jean speak to the media because he’s the best at keeping his real feelings hidden

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  • @JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at (Comment 67) : agree. Without Jean, they’d be finished.

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  • @JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at (Comment 67) : @robdylan (Comment 68) : then I truly feel sorry for them :cry:
    can’t they just get rid of him then ..

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  • @rekinek (Comment 70) : now how do you think Cheeky’s lawyers would like that?

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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : there are ways … :roll:
    but i was thinking more about practical solution like not playing him – though i guess you could argue constructive dismissal :mrgreen: :roll:

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  • @rekinek (Comment 70) :

    maybe the Bulls will do everyone a favour and “take him out” :twisted:

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.03.09 23:34:21 by JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at Reply

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  • Was thinking if Brendon Venter and his Sarries swop dont have a impact on Rassie and the Stormers. The fact that he want to take even coaches with him plus talking with the senior players sure must have a impact. Maybe this play a even bigger role then Puke Watson.

    Should be a good ply to play Watson. Just one yellow and the Brutes can shoot themself in the foot.

    The only hope I got for the Stormers usually when I think they will lose they tend to play a blinder and they havent played that bad thus far.

    Just maybe, but at the moment as a positive fan I am , just hoping we dont get a totally Brute blow out on saturday.

  • Comment 74, posted at 04.03.09 08:19:48 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at (Comment 73) : Thought you are on my side. :grin:

    You have enough to worry about, havent a Puke and still play kak. :lol:

  • Comment 75, posted at 04.03.09 08:21:38 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 74) :

    They have defended well and played with guts but they have NOTHING in attack! They waste soooo many opportunities with guys like Britz in the back-line! Get the bloody ball to the likes of Chavanga FFS!! Britz is a great strike runner but use him as a decoy now and again!

  • Comment 76, posted at 04.03.09 10:58:14 by JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at Reply

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  • Hey JT!

    Brits is useless imo. Is he a hooker or a gamebreaker cos if he is in the side as a hooker then he needs to play like one.

    I hate it when he hangs around in the backline but when it comes to tackling and actually doing the hard graft, then he is nowhere to be seen. :evil:

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  • @wpw (Comment 77) :

    IMO he is not “useless” just used incorrectly and used to often in the backs. I would use him in quick 2nd or 3rd phase blind side attack to draw in defenders and create more space for the backs on the open side.

  • Comment 78, posted at 04.03.09 11:11:01 by JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at Reply

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  • @JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at (Comment 78) :

    Well maybe useless is too strong a word as he does have his moments BUT he needs to focus on the basics.

    Oh and he can’t scrum to save his life and imho he is too light to play hooker.

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  • @wpw (Comment 79) :

    hooker is not as important in the scrum (I played hooker for 21+ years ;-) ) anyway his props are not strong/good enough to have him as a hooker. The Lions scrum did well with Britz as Hooker so where in lies the difference?

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.03.09 11:18:26 by JT-www.rugby-innsbruck.at Reply

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  • However saying all that I like the look of Fourie! And we miss Liebenberg :cry:

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) :
    Glad you dug this up Rob. I didnt ever recall AJ dissing the Sharks and always felt that he enjoyed playying for the Sharks and gave his best.

  • Comment 82, posted at 04.03.09 12:43:59 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Bulls – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JP Nel, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Gerhard van den Heever, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez (c), 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Pedrie Wannenburg, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Danie Rossouw, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.

    Subs – 16 Derick Kuün, 17 Rayno Gerber, 18 Victor Matfield, 19 Jacques Burger, 20 Heini Adams, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Jaco Pretorius

    Stormers – Percy Montgomery, Tonderai Chavhanga, Gcobani Bobo, Jean de Villiers (c), Nick Koster, Willem de Waal, Ricky Januarie, Luke Watson, Duane Vermeulen, Schalk Burger, Andries Bekker, AJ Venter, Brian Mujati, Schalk Brits, Wicus Blaauw.
    Subs: Deon Fourie, Schalk Ferreira, Adriaan Fondse, Francois Louw, Dewaldt Duvenhage, Peter Grant, Sireli Naqelevuki.

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.03.09 12:57:43 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Koster :shock:
    De Waal :evil:

    That goodness JD Moller is not playing!!! :razz:

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.03.09 13:04:24 by wpw Reply
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  • Fondse on the bench?? :shock: What the HELL??? :evil:

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.03.09 13:05:22 by wpw Reply
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  • Fondse plays far too tight for the Stormers game plan…..

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.03.09 13:09:51 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 85) : I also thought Fondse played well, now they puttung Oupa in at lock ( maybe to defend Puke from Bakkies and Danie :mrgreen: )

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.03.09 13:11:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 86) : Ja he’s not in the backline nearly enough :lol:

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.03.09 13:11:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 83) :

    Did you get that team from that other site??? :???:

  • Comment 89, posted at 04.03.09 13:14:03 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 89) : Yep

    Just glad to see the back of Bolla. Nothing else. :cry:

  • Comment 90, posted at 04.03.09 13:18:16 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Also the logic is if you are going to drop your only player in your tight five that rightfully deserves the name ‘tight’ then you have to balance it with fly-half that plays tighter then your tight five….

  • Comment 91, posted at 04.03.09 13:21:59 by Dive Pass Reply

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