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Reds seek clarification, consistency

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 20 Mar 2009 at 07:59
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The Reds have decided against exercising their right of appeal against the four-week suspension handed down to scrumhalf Will Genia for a ‘spear’ tackle, but will formally request that the Super 14′s governing body reviews the consistency of sentencing across the competition.

Rugby 365 reports that the Reds will also invite the SANZAR Judicial Officer who presided over Genia’s hearing to speak to the Reds playing squad to explain the reigning interpretations on the range of penalties that will apply to different offences.

Genia was ordered to appear before SANZAR judicial officer Paul Tully after the Citing Commissioner at last Saturday’s match reviewed video evidence of a ‘spear tackle’ on Sharks flank Keegan Daniel. The tackle attracted a penalty although no action was taken against Genia at the time as neither the referee nor the assistant referee could identify the Reds player involved.

Both match officials conferred and agreed it would have been a yellow card offence had the player been identified.

However, Tully ruled during the hearing that the referee’s view of the seriousness of the offence was wrong and that it should be regarded as a “dangerous tackle” worthy of a red card and therefore warranting a “mid-range” entry point under IRB Regulation 17, which would attract a six-week suspension. Genia was given a two-week concession by Tully due to his impeccable record and this being his first offence.

Reds head coach Phil Mooney said previous suspensions for similar tackles in the same competition had pointed to Genia’s case being “low-range”.

“If that view has changed, we need to know so we can reinforce to players the importance of correct tackling technique and the implications of getting it badly wrong,” Mooney said.

“Similarly we’d like the comfort of knowing that there’s a uniform approach to offences across the whole competition – all 14 territories and three nations. I may be wrong but at the moment that does not appear to be the case.”

Mooney said referees were often asked to speak to the team about particular problems that might arise in order to improve communication and player discipline.

“We think the same benefit could be gained by inviting Tully to speak to our players about the sort of penalties that can arise in particular situations, so everyone knows where they stand.”

Mooney said the Reds were confident that Genia was expertly represented by Brisbane barrister Mark Martin and remain extremely disappointed with Genia’s suspension for three games out of the regular season total of 13. However after seeking further expert advice it was decided that the chance of a successful appeal was extremely slim.

“We’ll cop it on the chin but we hope that some good may come of it in terms of improved communication and understanding between players and judiciary and a more consistent and transparent judicial process for the competition as a whole,” Mooney said.

The QRU requests will be detailed in a letter to SANZAR.


  • Queensland Reds have formally requested a review of sentencing consistency across Super 14 in the wake of the three-game ban on half-back Will Genia for a dangerous lifting tackle.

    The Reds decided Thursday not to appeal against the severity of the suspension, but disappointment is still being expressed to governing body SANZAR by letter.

    “We got a fair hearing but the suspension does seem out of whack with previous suspensions for similar tackles,” coach Phil Mooney said.

    Maybe if the Aussies had been receiving fair suspensions for the last 10 years then they wouldn’t feel this was a harsh sentence. But suddenly when a guy gets a GOOD sentence they are shocked. :lol:

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.03.09 08:02:11 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : Ditto!!!! Its now time for the australasians to get the proper punishments that have been handed out to SA. Remember the oke who was cited for biting and got a 2 year ban? I would rather be bitten than speared…

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.03.09 09:09:29 by Rahul Reply
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  • Let’s see what Stegman gets first before we see how consistant they are

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.03.09 10:16:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) :


  • Comment 4, posted at 20.03.09 10:20:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) : what did he do? Also a spear?

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.03.09 10:22:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Didn’t see it , but according to the commentary it was a spear

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.03.09 10:24:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : So you got time to read the Steyn Thread yet :evil: :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.03.09 10:25:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    @Pokkel (Comment 6) :

    A HEAVY Spear and he KNEW it was bad as he did it, he didn’t even run on with the play, just stayed by Smith as he was waiting for the game to stop and medics to arrive.

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.03.09 10:27:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 7) :

    Yeah read your reply to my 1st comment.

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.03.09 10:27:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : Ouch and no time off for good behaviour as he was already on a yellow. 6 – 8 weeks I recon

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.03.09 10:30:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : Please approve my new picture then I’ll let you of for your Monday comments :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.03.09 10:32:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 11) :

    :lol: Did you miss my reply on the other thread? :smile:

    Your pick was approved before Yesterday already. The pick I can see is of Beast running with ball in hand with a white jersey. If you can’t see it then press “Ctrl + F5″ to dump your cache.

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.03.09 10:38:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : I don’t now about ‘dumping cache’…I just a Dutchman :wink:

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.03.09 10:55:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : Thanks I see it now…probably the last to see it. :oops: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.03.09 10:56:05 by Pokkel Reply
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