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Rassie ducks the axe


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 29 Apr 2009 at 07:13
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Rassie Erasmus will continue as Stormers coach in 2010. And even defeats in the last three Super 14 games will not change that decision.

The Cape Times reports that that was the unequivocal message of support from Stormers chairman Pat Kuhn on Tuesday regarding Erasmus’s future in the Cape. The Stormers have struggled in 2009 and are languishing in 11th position on the Super 14 log, having lost seven out of 10 matches.

They narrowly avoided a whitewash on their overseas tour last Friday with a gritty 18-11 victory over the Highlanders in Dunedin. The Stormers ended fifth in the 2008 competition and were strong contenders for a semi-final at the start of 2009 but have stumbled from one defeat to another.

Kuhn and Western Province Rugby Union president Tobie Titus joined the squad for the final two weeks of the tour and when asked on Tuesday if Erasmus woulde the Stormers coach in 2010, Kuhn said: “Yes, he will.”

There has been speculation about Erasmus possibly coaching the new Eastern Cape team or even going to Europe but Kuhn said: “We can’t think now if they must lose next week, we must fire Rassie.

“Rassie has committed to turning things around and so have the players. So we can’t say that we must fire the man because of defeats in the last three games.

“Yes, we are disappointed about the losses but we can’t just hire and fire all the time. From our side, we have given our commitment and Rassie has also given his. So it is fine with us.”

Kuhn said that he had not identified any major problems within the Stormers camp during his trip that may have played a role in their poor performances this season.

“There was nothing serious that we could identify that is wrong,” he said. “Obviously here and there we picked up problems but those are problems we all have to work together to solve.

“Rassie and I chatted in depth, but it was difficult to put our finger on the actual problem.”

The Stormers lost four consecutive matches on tour and were virtually out of semi-final contention after just six games. Kuhn feels, however, that the high number of injuries played a big part in the team’s lowly position on the log.

“I understand people are upset about the disappointing results,” he said. “Sure, I also wanted us to win more games. But due to certain serious injuries we had this season – and we have about 14 or 15 players out at the moment – and now Andries Bekker is injured again. You saw the difference Andries made at the weekend. Jean de Villiers is also injured.

“Yes, there were losses before the major injuries came along but we all know that those were close defeats, by seven points or less.

“It could’ve gone either way in most of the games. It was just the bounce of the ball sometimes. Out of the seven games we’ve lost, besides really the Hurricanes game, where we were slaughtered, the rest were very close.”

Kuhn said the “spirit” in the team was one of the positives he saw and he feels that the difficult times the Stormers are experiencing currently will make them a better team in the future.

“It was nice to come back with a win. To win that game was good for the team morale and for the effort that they put in,” he said.

“I think they deserved to win at least one game on tour. They have lost seven out of 10 games but I must say, for the two weeks I was on tour the spirit among the guys was excellent. You could see the commitment on and off the field towards the management as well.

“Normally on such a long trip, you are five weeks away from home and you haven’t been playing so well, you can feel frustrated.

“But I didn’t pick up any of that. I think this tour was a good experience for the team.”



38 Comments

  • this chap is clearly delusional

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.04.09 07:35:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • I say get rid of the likes of Kuhn, Wagner and Titus.

    No accountability AT ALL!!! :evil:

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.04.09 07:42:54 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 2) : and all the fatties :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.04.09 07:59:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • Good morning :mrgreen:

    I said it from the start Rassie’s going to kill WP Rugby :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.04.09 07:59:59 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 4) :

    He did well last year didn’t he Charlie??

    The Stormers and WP have performed dismally for years now and the guys who appoint the coaches should surely answer to someone don’t you think??

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.04.09 08:05:20 by wpw Reply
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  • The Stormers ended fifth in the 2008 competition and were strong contenders for a semi-final at the start of 2009 but have stumbled from one defeat to another.

    I am a little perplexed.

    After which round of the season where they strong contendors for a semi-final spot? Was it after the 4th round when they had won only one of their four matches or was it after the 5th round when they had won 2 of their 5 matches?

    I KNOW it wasn’t after Round 12 when they had only won 3 of their 11 matches, because by then it isn’t considered the start of the season anymore.

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.04.09 08:17:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 5) : So you suggesting that it’s actually the fatty choir taking the guys through their paces on the practice field & signing new or dare I say has been players :roll:

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.04.09 08:18:05 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 4) :

    They weren’t even breathing when he took over…

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.04.09 09:30:24 by Morné Reply
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  • Eish who gives a shit that they lost four games on tour, our season was over before we stepped on the plane. Thats the real issue.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.04.09 09:31:05 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • “Out of the seven games we’ve lost, besides really the Hurricanes game, where we were slaughtered, the rest were very close.””

    Who gives a a shit – we lost. The Bulls game is an excellent example, everyone thought Rassies strategy was correct – clearly it wasn’t – we lost. And i don’t settle for losing by less than seven as a result.

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.04.09 09:36:03 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • ‘Rassie ducks the axe’

    Only cause Jack Nicholson wasn’t swinging it!

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.04.09 09:43:07 by Rahul Reply

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  • “Rassie and I chatted in depth, but it was difficult to put our finger on the actual problem.”

    So they can’t do their jobs then?

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.04.09 09:45:26 by Rahul Reply

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  • I reckon this is the right call, anybody remember what Meyer did in his first season, and then what he went on to achieve with the Bulls, including a win in the Super 14!! I think we are to keen on instant success and when it does not happen we fire and then start again. A couple of the Sharks fans were not thrilled with Plum after the loss, and criticise him , but if he does not win the super 14 must he go? Watch Rassie next year!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.04.09 09:51:42 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 13) : I fully agree. Even the great Sir Alex was in jeopardy of losing his job after a couple of seasons in charge. Now some 22 years later look what he has achieved.

    Pick a coach and stick with him (or her), they can only learn from their mistakes!

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.04.09 10:01:53 by Rahul Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) :

    They were strong contenders when they had won 0 from 1.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.04.09 10:21:25 by blackshark - YNWA Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 13) :

    The difference between Rassie and Meyer:

    Meyer signed some good props for the Bulls…

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.04.09 10:22:02 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark – YNWA (Comment 15) :

    Hey!! Enough with the Stormers bashing please!!!

    And here i thought we were friends?? :sad:

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.04.09 10:23:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 14) :

    How many times must I tell you this IS a RUGBY site!!! :evil:

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.04.09 10:24:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 13) :

    Watch Rassie next year. :smile:

    Isn’t that what they said last year as well?

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.04.09 10:51:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark – YNWA (Comment 15) :

    Not Strong, but I’ll concede that 0 from 1 was the best record they’ve had all season. :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.04.09 10:54:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • i am in 2 minds :

    one mind says – leave the coach alone, the players are not pulling their bit.

    other mind – it is the coach’s job to motivate and chose players and if they do not perform get rid of them.

    it is rassie’s second season – so far worse than the first one.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.04.09 11:26:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • Interesting to read the Shark lot wanting Rassie’s head. I’d be more worried their own season falls to pieces this weekend and will they ask for Plumtrees head?

    Rassie have made mistakes and will be the first one to acknowlegde it, give him another year, sure he will get it right.

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.04.09 13:15:12 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) :

    I agree with you PB.

    I might not agree with the way he did things this year but maybe he can turn it around during the CC. :roll:

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.04.09 13:23:27 by wpw Reply
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  • Problem is he hands the CC over to Coetzee or Proudfoot but still their boss.

    If you look at say the Lions to comparison, you sure can see Rassie’s hands in the team. They got two big thumpings and dont look defensive organised at all. Think when we lost that game against the Blues was vital for the Stormers. Thats the one that would have set us up. I know we have the next generation coming through. I mean just look at Duvenhage and specially des Fountain. There are a few young ones that Rassie got through waiting for their change. If they would have fired Rassie , who will they pick in his place , Jake White maybe and start all over again?

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.04.09 13:30:02 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) : but of course – we are used to high standards :mrgreen:

    To me it looks more that sharks lot is bit divided on rassie’s subject.

    @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 10) : you sound like cheetahs :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.04.09 13:34:14 by rekinek Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) :

    Rassie the first one to acknowledge it?????????? NEVER.

    Rassie is STILL saying there is nothing wrong with the Stormers scrum after everyone sees it going backwards everyweek.

    The Sharks have lost 3 games out of 10. that is a 70% success rate. anyone who asks for Plumtree’s head is all bitter and twisted over nothing.

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.04.09 13:37:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 25) : Sorry Boet maybe you dont have to dig deep to see about that high standards. :roll:

    Lets call it the old SA one, hire and fire the coach when things dont work out.

    Rassie state from the start he wants three years to sort out Fester shite. Trust me have come some way with our structures, the top lot need some polish but we’ll get there.

    Just look at Francois Steyn, where player poaching brings you. One day yes, next day no sort of thing.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.04.09 13:39:52 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 24) :
    i do not think you should be comparing stormers with lions really. considering the number of SB and last year result they should rather be compared with Sharks or Bulls. There is just this bit more expected of Stormers.

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.04.09 13:42:59 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 26) : Jenne they lost to the stupid Reds and Cheetahs and by a long way and with a Bok 3 + 2 extra Bok fatties. Thats the point, the Canes have canned our lot but look where they are on the log! Wait till you lose on saturday, then we talk again.

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.04.09 13:43:06 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 28) : To be honest not many Springbokke in the Stormers side you can call good ones. But thats beside the point, cant see Rassie being fired after a season that could have gone so much easily the other way.

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.04.09 13:45:57 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 29) : getting heated :lol:
    at least we did not loose to blues … at home …. and wait we will see how your guys will do against cheetahs :mrgreen: you never know – they start being unpredictable.

    whatever ways it will go the sharks will have bit better record than stormers.

    @PaarlBok (Comment 30) : now you sound like cheetahs :lol:

    i don’t think he will be fired really but as said in 21 I am not sure whether he should stay. Sth wrong in this Stormers camp.

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.04.09 14:04:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) :
    Huh, I felt it was the Stormers guys who were really harsh on THEIR coach. It should really not bother the Sharks (supporters) who is coaching the opposition just as long as they have the best.

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.04.09 14:10:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 32) : thank you thank you.

    though I think sharks supporters should be bit (just a bit) bothered about stormers – after all it is good to have quality local opposition.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.04.09 14:28:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • :shock: Whats up with the Stormers. I see that the Stormers big boy, Rob Wagner, is unhappy that Luaki was not cited and suspended and is going to take the matter up further with SANZAR and SA Rugby. This is such a noble gesture of the Stormers to concern themselves with the lot of the Blue Bulls Union. Yeah pull the other one. Maybe its time the Sharks managment also got stuck in and supported this action after all it will be in their interests for the Stormers to win this game.

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.04.09 14:49:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Dunno whats wrong with Wagner, maybe he want to audit a system here. Myself think that wasnt that bad a tackle and yellow was enough, anyway saw the Stormers team has been announced. A lot of injuries but good to see three Varsity Cup players on the bench. Thats the thing I want to see!

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.04.09 15:01:38 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 35) : matties :?:

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.04.09 15:13:04 by rekinek Reply
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  • Two Ikeys and 1 Matie.

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.04.09 15:25:37 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 35) :

    Is Chavs back in the side in place of Bobes?? :smile:

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.04.09 15:46:46 by wpw Reply
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