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Gutted


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 11 May 2009 at 09:22
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So fans, yet again we find ourselves lamenting another season of what-ifs… It could have, nay, should have, turned out so differently this year.

There will be the usual, endless rounds of recrimination – most of them started by me, no doubt! There will be soul-searching, there will be a top-to-bottom dissection of the team, the coaching staff, the management, hell – even the ball boys. We will draw some conclusions and leave some mysteries unsolved but at the end of the day there is only one thing that cannot be argued.

The Sharks simply did not want this as much as they thought they did.

You can say what you like, but the team has looked like a rag-tag bunch simply going through the motions ever since the Hurricanes game. Clearly they all started to believe their own hype at that stage and accepted that all they needed to do for the rest of the tournament was simply rock up. Here come the mighty Sharks, let’s give them the log points on a platter.

Any emphasis on team work, on structure and on basics went right out of the window as virtually the entire attacking core of the team went walkabout on a self-serving glory boy mission. The captain and coach paid the appropriate amount of lip-service, of course, but you could tell that they didn’t really mean it – they also thought that the job was already done. Or maybe they weren’t quite strong enough to get that message across to the rest of the team?

So now we’re right back where we started, right back to our 2006 level, just missing out on the semis. The team of raw youngsters has matured and many of them are now seasoned internationals. We can no longer claim that we are waiting for this team to click – we just need to keep them together for a few seasons. The fact is, we have stuck with them through thick and thin and they have failed us – no, they have failed themselves. They had this thing on a platter and they threw it away like something that had no value. Shameful.

So what now? We, as fans will stick by them, of course, because that’s what we do. Sure, we’re angry now and some of us are making crazy statements about supporting the Bulls this week, but that ain’t really going to happen – not deep down anyway. It’s black and white for us – and nothing else matters. The players and coaching staff need to realise that and ask themselves whether they’ve really done the jersey any justice over the last few weeks? What do they need to do to atone?

I fear that, for some at least, the answer lies in accepting a fat European payday. Let’s hope that the real Sharks men will stick around and try, yet again, to atone for this failing in 2010.



71 Comments

  • Right sharkies, you have already written your chances off, but I am going to make a prediction the Blues are going to beat the crusaders and the sharks are going to beat the Bulls, and Pigs do fly ask all the guys who have Swine flu.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.05.09 09:37:00 by Whindy Reply
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  • I said to my brother yesterday that if Jean and Schalk want to leave for Europe or wherever, WP must let them go…

    At least the youngsters on Saturday, bad at times as they were, looked like the wanted to play.

    When ego’s start holding coaches and unions ransom then you know something isn’t right.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.05.09 09:40:40 by Morné Reply
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  • Hey Rob, I remember earlier in the season, you guys saying you were not worried about the Bonus Points that where being dropped!!
    I have to wonder if life in Durban is not too good, nice houses for the Players, great facilities,girls, beach and at the end of the day maybe the killer instinct/ hunger is lost. So Plum will have to make some big calls and when the big name boys don’t pull finger, say hey guys try a bit of Vodacom cup!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.05.09 09:45:03 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 1) : we need the Brumbies to lose to the Chiefs as well

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.05.09 09:45:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 3) : yes – I think you may be right.

    It also pisses me off when I see stuff on Facebook that indicates that, win or lose, the guys are going to be pissing it up at Clapham all weekend anyway.

    Maybe it’s time for Oom Adolf to read the riot act a little.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.05.09 09:46:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 1) : i believe that sharks can beat the bulls.

    but whether all other results will go our way – bit unlikely – but will be hoping.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.05.09 09:47:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 3) : i never said that. i have bitched about it from game 1. but there were some that weren’t worried…

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.05.09 09:48:13 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 2) :

    Schalk has been toilet this season.

    If Jean does leave then hopefully Bobo will move to 12 with Des Fountain at 13.

    Maybe we can sign Waylon from the Guppies. What do you think??? :roll:

    We did rejuvenate Luke’s career didn’t we?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.05.09 09:49:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : we actually just need a team that wants to win. it doesn’t matter about everyone else.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.05.09 09:49:51 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : maybe time for adolf to do his job and sort out the depth issues.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.05.09 09:50:39 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 7) : If you look at the Crusaders they have lost more games than the sharks and the Brumbies but the old bonus point factor came to the fore again

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.05.09 09:51:51 by Whindy Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 8) :

    We have enough lateral runners in the Cape – Waylong can stay exactly where he is…

    As for Luke – he is silencing quite a number of people. In fact, I would be surprised if he is not picked for the Boks.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.05.09 09:52:53 by Morné Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 3) : @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 7) :

    Well, that was at the beginning of the comp when we all had the illusion that the team was still going to gel and hammer the likes of The Reds, Cheetahs…and record good victories at home to close the competition and take points away from the challengers.

    Needless to say…

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.05.09 09:54:32 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 12) : does that mean he is going to puke all over the place again :lol: reluctantly have to agree but the only place I see for him would be in place of Schalk, wjich would be the correct call with regards form.
    The other question I pose and it applies to all the players, are they playing too much rugby and are just out on their feet, making motivationj a big problem

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.05.09 09:56:09 by Whindy Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 8) : this thread is about the Sharks

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.05.09 09:56:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • Motivation :oops:

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.05.09 09:56:31 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 12) : you guys are great at buying all the buggered guys… take Waylon, please!

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.05.09 09:57:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 14) : Rose is keen to come back to CT as well, please!!!

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.05.09 09:58:20 by Whindy Reply
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  • NEVER underestimate the importance of Bonus Points….

    I, however, is still hoping for a miracle…sorry, but that’s just my nature!! :cry:

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.05.09 09:59:17 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 11) : i agree. we have scored less tries than the 5 of the 8 teams below us. that is shocking for a team that supposedly plays attractive rugby.

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.05.09 09:59:24 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 12) : waylon is a better wing than wookie. at least waylon runs.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.05.09 10:00:11 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 18) : are you serious. rose is the worst player to have in your team if you are under pressure.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.05.09 10:01:16 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 19) : Nothing wrong with an optimist, can you imagine the party at the Game after that, if anybody pitches for the game :???:

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.05.09 10:01:40 by Whindy Reply
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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 10) : i did not ask this question before in hope it will clear out at some point but not patient enough.
    who is adolf :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.05.09 10:02:43 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 22) : Hence me wanting you to take him back!! Remember I am a Lions supporter, for my sins

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.05.09 10:02:51 by Whindy Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 24) :Adolf is Alices Brother

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.05.09 10:04:09 by Whindy Reply
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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 21) :

    Well ja if you play him on wing he has little hope of running laterally… We will just have to close the side exits of the field…

    @robdylan (Comment 17) :

    We are the retirement capital of SA.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.05.09 10:04:53 by Morné Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 24) : rudolph streulli, the supposed recruitment and contracts manager at the sharks. the guy that pisses players off, and doesn’t buy decent replacements.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.05.09 10:06:02 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 25) : the lions have at least tried this season. more than io can say for the sharks.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.05.09 10:07:04 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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  • So the kicking game aint working Oom Stefan…I told you so :evil:

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.05.09 10:08:00 by Charlie Reply

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  • Hi All
    Not happy camper today
    as i read the situation if saders and brumbies loose with a bonus point and we loose with 2 bonus points we still qualify on better points diff
    am i right

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.05.09 10:20:13 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 31) :

    hahahah – I am glad to see that its not only me trying to figure out how we can still accomplish a semi!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Come all you fundi’s out here – give us all the “miracle” options for the Sharkies tobe able to make it….let’s see how many there are. (How about an article on “Miracles that would Save the Sharks”.. :wink:

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.05.09 10:23:27 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 28) : well, the players certainly got their own back this season!

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.05.09 10:25:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 31) : yeah, but the Tahs are on equal points… if they absolutely stuff the Lions, they’ll end up ahead of us regardless

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.05.09 10:26:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 32) : ok, I’ll do it later

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.05.09 10:31:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) :

    You’re a Star!! :wink:

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.05.09 10:34:51 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @RobDylan
    so the lions must beat the tahs and if the lions pitch up they will They must be wary of the Tahs scrum which very clever the front row come under player and scrum up not really illegal but not right hopefully whoever refs them Kaplan please wont allow them to do this and then the lions will win

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.05.09 10:35:15 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 37) : the Lions need to learn how to tackle first

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.05.09 10:56:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • thats what they need to work on this week

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.05.09 10:58:01 by Fattmann Reply
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  • I was/ am so bleak but am still getting on a flight from JHB this weekend to watch the game. Im taking some mates and will despite what happens earlier in the weekend be shouting my ass off for the sharks. I still love them but dont like them right now. I have 5 days to sort that out though. So so sad.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.05.09 11:37:18 by billy Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 3) :

    @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    I feel the same way, Pics of players on Facebook having a Jol out partying, late nights, sheesha pipes (hubbly bubbly), etc.

    And you ask yourself how serious are the guys about being Pro players who dedicate themselves to hardwrok and very little play during the season?

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.05.09 11:41:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 12) :

    He will be the Starting 8 for the Boks IMO, as much as I think he is a twit, he HAS played damn well this season.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.05.09 11:45:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 19) :

    Same boat for me.

    I just KNOW I am going to be so depressed on Saturday that even though we won we still haven’t qualified for the play-offs, Yet I still hope that by some great twist of fate we actually Do qualify.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.05.09 11:49:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :evil:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.05.09 11:49:54 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : All work and no play … but where does it end? I reckon players like Bismark and Kanco are having the times of their lives, they are paid(a lot as well) to play a game that they love and then on top of it, the party and girls, sounds good to me, except somewhere along the line you also have to be accountable and now is the time to front up and its the Coach’s job to call them on that accountability??

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.05.09 11:50:49 by Whindy Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :

    I dont really buy that buddy.

    If you’ve been to work and given it your all then should you go home and sulk because the result didnt go your way?
    I understand fans are upset but that’s not really fair criticism of the players and has very little to do with their pre-game mindset.

    Criticise their performance on the field but to question their commitment because they want to have a few drinks post-game is a bit off-side in my opinion.
    Things don’t always go my way in my career but come Friday afternoon I leave that all behind and get on with the rest of my life.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.05.09 11:51:27 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : maybe we should raise this aspect with the coaching staff…

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.05.09 11:51:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (history forgets losers) (Comment 28) :

    How can you blame Streauli for this????????? :???:

    I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, yuo also think Stefan is useless where most of the country are thinking of him as one of the two possible Bok fullbacks. :???:

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.05.09 11:52:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 46) : but Vinnie, you don’t need to stay in peak physical condition in order to perform your job…

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.05.09 11:53:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) :

    Why? Does/should the coaching staff have a say on where a player goes, what he does and who he does it with even when he’s not at work?

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.05.09 11:53:39 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) :

    But I need to stay in top mental shape…

    It’s irrespective anyway. You cant expect young men to work as hard as they do and deal with inevitable failure and never have a night off to let off soem steam.

    It’s not practical, it’s not feasible and it’s just plain unfair.
    They are still people.

    Let’s not forget – this was after the game. They’d already lost. Monday they sit down and go over where they went wrong. Do you expect them fret about it all weekend? You might say yes but these guys play every weekend for months on end.

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.05.09 11:55:59 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.05.09 11:56:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 46) :

    how many teams out there have booze limits or complete bans on Alcohol?

    Why should the Sharks be any different?

    The guys are Pro players and with that comes a lifestyle entailing early to bed and a clean system.

    the thing is that when YOU go on with your life on a friday and maybe overindulge on occasion it doesn’t really have an affect on your performace at work on Saturday. A player having a few late party nights during the week certainly DOES impact on his performance on the paddock, be it in training or a match.

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.05.09 12:01:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 51) : do you even HAVE a top mental shape? :)

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.05.09 12:01:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 50) :

    Because the coach is the one who get’s fired when the team does poorly, not the player.

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.05.09 12:03:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : I think you’re arguing at cross purposes… Vinnie is assuming this is only the Saturday night after the game that we’re talking about. I’m not so sure

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.05.09 12:03:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) :

    A agree. And teams with booze limits have usually had problems in the past.

    Look KSA, I know you’re just angry btu the Sharks pretty much crashed out of the S14 on Saturday and they felt they needed to blow off some steam.
    These aren’t soldiers – just just rugby players and their season has just been ruined.

    As gutted as you are I can absolutely guarantee you they feel many, many times worse.

    As for your Pro players and clean lifestyle – quite frnakly that’s just BS and you making things up to suit your agenda.
    There is nothing to say a player may not go out with friends or have a few drinks.

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.05.09 12:07:33 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) : Thats why the Coach has to be the one questioned at the end of the day, the buck stops with him and we have to look at Plum, you guys where all shouting his praises, not so long ago, better than Dick great job etc, but now that the shit has hit the fan we are all questioning him and quite rightly he has not delivered the Cup and at the moment that is seen as a failure

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.05.09 12:08:10 by Whindy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) :

    That’s the scary part – imagine if I really applied myself! ;-)

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.05.09 12:08:55 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    Yip, I’m referring to post-game on Saturday.

    If you’ve got proof of them boozing before game sthat’s another matter but right now you’re only speculating and seeking scapegoats.

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.05.09 12:10:08 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 55) :

    In just the same way as my boss will take the can if I cock things up.

    Still doesnt mean he can dictate what I do in my spare time.

    anyway, if he was so concerend he would’ve added behaviour clauses in their contracts.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.05.09 12:11:43 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 57) :

    As Rob says we are on a different issue really. I am talking in general not just this one Saturday night.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.05.09 12:11:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Miaaaaaauuuuuu…. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.05.09 12:32:18 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 63) : saucer of milk, anyone? :)

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.05.09 12:37:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 62) :

    Fair play.

    If that sort of behaviour is par for the course then yes, I can see how it could be a problem.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.05.09 12:38:20 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 65) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 65) : look – we don’t know for sure, but there does seem to be a very strong party culture that seems to affect virtually ALL the younger members of the team

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.05.09 12:42:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) :

    Hey stop fighting wit Vinnie, man and write my Miracles….i need to know what I should pray for.. :lol:

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.05.09 12:53:52 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • All the symphaty. Trust me when I saw that rain when the game start it felt like the nightmare game we had against them in 2008. It felt like that day all over again, a night, nightmare and the game went precisely that way.

    Anyway I wont kick a lying dog and you still in with a shout. Myself think fridays game between the Lions & Tahs the most important one for the Sharks to be still in with a shout. If they can stop them for at least getting a bonus point then you are in with a shout. The others may happen, Blues to beat the Saders at home and Chiefs will klap the BumBoys for sure. If this happen your destiny is in your own hands, if not give the game with bonuspoint to the Brutes.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.05.09 12:56:16 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 68) : NEVER!

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.05.09 13:01:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • by half past 11 on saturday morn, we’ll know exactly what to do, fight or run

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.05.09 13:46:21 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : ok maybe i am wrong. adolf contracted good back up to make sure we were safe. so then no-one can use deysel’s, ruan’s, jp’s and frans’ injuries as an excuse for our failure. so the fact that we were without ruan and deysel during our losing streak was just poor play by the sharks. i am happy with that. it makes sense.

    i am also happy with the up and under tactic used by stefan all season. it was very effective. we got one try from it. and that was total fluke because botes cleaned up the oppositions knock on. the sharks wouldn’t have used the ball better had he carried the ball up into the backline where something could have been created. maybe stefan realised that the backline would probably knock on the ball so it was better to kick the ball to the opposition in the hope they would knock on. mmm makes sense. i suppose his regularly kicking of the ball out at kick off was also part of the sharks game plan. thanks for clearing it up.

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.05.09 14:15:33 by try time (history forgets losers) Reply

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