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Players threaten boycott at GLRU


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Lions, Super 14 on 28 May 2009 at 08:55
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Just hours after saying Eugene Eloff’s job was safe, the Golden Lions bosses sacked him on Wednesday.

On a day of high drama at Johannesburg Stadium, Eloff was relieved of his duties after a disappointing Super 14. Also, a number of senior players at the union have threatened to boycott next week’s match against the British and Irish Lions.

Apparently, a number of players have lost faith in the union after they were told on Monday Eloff would be in charge for the match against the tourists. They feel they should at least have been consulted about the coaching position.

Jacques van der Westhuyzen reports for The Star that many have stated they will not train or play under new coach Hans Coetzee, who was appointed on Wednesday to coach the team. His assistants are Wimpie Vermeulen and Ian McDonald.

Eloff was told on Wednesday that, in the best interests of the team, he should stand down, and when the players were informed of the decision and told that Coetzee – a veteran schools coach – would take over, they apparently “walked out” in solidarity with Eloff.

“Apparently the union want to redeploy me – but I’m done. The trust is broken. I’ll discuss my contract and future with my agent,” said Eloff.

Meanwhile, a number of players are set to leave the union. Anton van Zyl has signed a two-year deal with Western Province, while Willem Alberts, Jano Vermaak, Louis Ludik, Willie Wepener and Jaque Fourie (apparently Clermont) are also about to jump ship.



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  • EISH!!!!!!!!!! These guys have a tough time ahead of them. :sad:

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.05.09 08:58:56 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • FOEK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Alberts
    Vermaak
    Ludik
    Wepener
    Fourie
    Joubert
    Reynecke

    And those are the ones we KNOW of. :shock:

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.05.09 09:01:45 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • and when the players were informed of the decision and told that Coetzee – a veteran schools coach – would take over, they apparently “walked out” in solidarity with Eloff :shock:

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.05.09 09:02:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • so they are going to loose golden :mrgreen: opportunity of beating the Lions because they wanna strike. Somehow do not see it happening.

    bad all in all :???:

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.05.09 09:03:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 4) :

    I don’t see the strike OR them beating the british Lions happening. :sad:

    I do think there will be the ODD player who is unavailable through “injury” maybe.

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.05.09 09:06:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : i am hoping they can :mrgreen: it will only be lions second game so they will not be so settled.

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.05.09 09:12:05 by rekinek Reply
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  • The Lions match is next week, how stupid could their management be to relieve the coach, who they had publicly just backed, on the eve of this game . If these decisions are on the recommendation of Jake Whites Winning Ways company then I predict a name change of such company in a few months time.

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.05.09 09:14:03 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 6) : that of course depend who the lions will field if they loose fourie and vermaak will be difficult. loosing earl may be a blessing :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.05.09 09:14:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : Well if they need players, I am availeable for the number 12 jersey :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.05.09 09:16:08 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 7) : though the players often play even better when their coach was just fired so maybe its kinda masterstroke from white. He might have concluded that nothing else will help lions :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.05.09 09:16:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 9) : aren’t you injured :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.05.09 09:21:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 9) : careful what you wish for

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.05.09 09:39:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • I see the end of the Golden Lions in my Crystal ball….with so many leaving for greener pastures, Loffie being sacked…somehow I have the idea that Cheeky the Clown’s Kings are gonna become one of the next BIg 5….

    Sorry – but this is alldoom and gloom for me…to resurrect the Lions after this is gonna take major effort and outstanidng management and lots of money..

    Comment 52, posted at 28.05.09 09:21:03 by Prof. Ice

    My cooment from another thread..

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.05.09 09:42:40 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 13) : :mrgreen: see comment 53.

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.05.09 09:44:36 by rekinek Reply
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  • I reckon the Sharks should sign Vermaak.

    Rory needs competition so that he can start to pull finger!!! :roll:

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.05.09 09:45:40 by wpw Reply
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  • Tirade!Tirade!Tirade!

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.05.09 09:46:32 by Morné Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 14) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Wonder if the to need-to-be-refreshed ticket boys will get a job at Loftus?? :???: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.05.09 09:53:54 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 16) :

    you sound like a Stormers Queen!! :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.05.09 09:54:49 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 17) : they actually look that type :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.05.09 09:57:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 10) :
    But if they really strike they wont be playing – of course it wont happen.

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.05.09 09:57:43 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I wouldn’t mind bringing Alberts to Durbs …would be an excellent acquisition for the Sharks!

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.05.09 09:58:55 by Villie Reply
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  • Ludick as FB at the Sharks wouldn’t be a bad thing either.

    Reyneke has already signed elsewhere I recently read. I also read he cracked his pelvis in the VC game against the Sharks xv. OUCH!

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.05.09 09:59:04 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 21) : Lions are ripe for the picking at the moment.

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.05.09 10:11:24 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 23) : Yes I notice that. And as you say Ludik would be another good signing. Stefan isn’t getting any younger….

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.05.09 10:14:44 by Villie Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 22) : Reynecke has ALSO signed with Sarries. How many Saffa hookers do they need?

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.05.09 10:21:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 15) : don’t underestimate Charl McLeod

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.05.09 10:21:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 21) : I spoke to him about that. He told me he’s still contracted with the Lions until the end of the year

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.05.09 10:22:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) :

    Reynecke is a Hooker, but Brits isn’t :razz:

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.05.09 10:22:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : they must have bought him as a wing :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.05.09 10:25:55 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 29) : fair comment :)

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.05.09 10:29:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) :

    Is there still such a thing as a contract with the Lions?

    Garage sale everyone! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.05.09 11:18:10 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) : Messi is a Champ! and only 21! Yeehaa Barca won! What with the Sharks being kiked out of S14 before Semis, Crusaders out at semis and Ferrari not going anywhere, at least one of my teams has given me a reason to cheer!!!!!

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.05.09 11:47:22 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 32) :

    It was cool…how this short dude rose between to tall defenders to head past the tallest keeper. Awesome!

    Barca had a damn good season….and they deserved the TREBLE.
    Now that is what I call football. :smile:

  • Comment 33, posted at 28.05.09 11:58:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) : nasty :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 28.05.09 12:03:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 33) :
    Agree, agree, agree – only one team on the pitch.

  • Comment 35, posted at 28.05.09 12:32:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I hope Adolf awakes from his beauty sleep(not that sleep will help his looks) and start negotiating with sum guys. I would really like for Mossie to join the Sharks.

  • Comment 36, posted at 28.05.09 18:37:33 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 36) : although Mossies injury woes scares me.

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.05.09 18:38:30 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 36) : check joubert tread – I think – apparently Mossie on the way to Clermont or sth like that.

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.05.09 20:09:28 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 7) :

    Stuff happened on Monday that didn’t come out in the open, they basically had no alternative to do what they did

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.05.09 21:32:34 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 39) : i guess we will never know what the full story is.
    but in media right now it looks like loffie is hard done.

    i am just hoping for good game on wednesday :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 28.05.09 21:44:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • It might still come out…but certainly he is made out to be the victim at the moment. I can tell you that most (95%+) of the people on my website are sorry….that it didn’t happen sooner…LOL!

  • Comment 41, posted at 28.05.09 21:56:48 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 41) : wow. i live in jozzi and the lions supporters i know are quite pro -loffie.
    i guess i am more lenient on him because lions are only my second team.

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.05.09 22:05:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 41) : did some search on your website :mrgreen:
    we also organised drive down to durban for the CC semi, when doing so i did not know that would be bringing so many lions to the tank :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.05.09 22:13:01 by rekinek Reply
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  • got a bit tired of my vodka pic :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.05.09 22:19:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 42) :

    That’s because they don’t know whats going on.

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.05.09 07:08:31 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 41) : Lets pop on over to your website then

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.05.09 08:31:40 by Claytie Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 45) :
    Morning Walter
    Please enlighten us with what is going on. (Hopefully its on your website which is where Im going soon)

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.05.09 08:42:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 44) : :smile:

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.05.09 08:46:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 47) :
    Im back, had a look but couldn’t find anything concrete. :neutral: :???:

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.05.09 09:08:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • some of the most vocal guys on Walter’s forum are the fathers of players that were dropped from the S14 squad by Loffie… you expecting a balanced viewpoint from those guys?

  • Comment 50, posted at 29.05.09 09:24:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) :

    Rob, it’s true that it’s probably unbalanced. But we also hear a lot of things that doesn’t come out in the public. It sounds like the real reason our coach was asked to leave was because he promised players a place in Wednesday’s match if they supported him. When that came to light, that was the end for him. And then the players that were promised a match on Wednesday’s match was unhappy and wanted to strike.

  • Comment 51, posted at 29.05.09 10:41:33 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 51) :

    If you want to play on the blurred side of the morality line then you have to take your punishment when you are caught.

  • Comment 52, posted at 29.05.09 10:51:22 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • And all the players that are leaving have made their minds up about this months ago, go back in your archives, I said 2 or 3 months ago (In Feb I think) that we know of about 9 players that are looking at leaving. So their leaving has got nothing to do with Loffie being sacked.

  • Comment 53, posted at 29.05.09 10:56:09 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 51) : well, if that’s the case, then he deserves what he gets. Signs of a desperate man.

    Look – my main argument here is that you can’t crucify Loffie and blame him for all of the team’s failings. There’s a systematic problem and everyone from the CEO down should walk the plank.

    I’m just worried about Jake White doing a “knight in shining armour” bit and making the team look half-reasonable without actually fixing any of the underlying problems.

  • Comment 54, posted at 29.05.09 10:58:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : Help Rob , I want to change my starting 15 on Justrugby but it says the round has started and i cannot make changes…help if you can please.

  • Comment 55, posted at 29.05.09 11:01:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : I also applied for the Sharksworld pool for the Lions series about a week ago and it doesn’t seem like I’ve been approved yet. Can you send me the poolcode again please.

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.05.09 11:03:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) :

    Agreed, Loffie is most certainly not to blame for everything that’s wrong at the union. I do have faith in CEO Manie Reyneke, he has been in the position 18 months and looks like he is starting to address some of the problems. But there is much to be done, we are also in the period where officials are being elected, so hopefully we will see more changes.

  • Comment 57, posted at 29.05.09 11:12:15 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 51) :
    I saw that on your site but it left me wondering, “supported him in what” was he up for a hearing of some sorts where the players have a say in things, or are they talking about Jakes audit – if it is the later when did they know it was going to take place.
    This whole saga is very wishy washy, including the reports about it.

  • Comment 58, posted at 29.05.09 11:28:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Louis Luyt has recently made a comeback to the beer brewing business, maybe he will be willing to make a comeback to rugby administration (as scary as that thought is), I think its needed.

  • Comment 59, posted at 29.05.09 11:31:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 58) :

    They had an informal vote and he canvassed for votes.

  • Comment 60, posted at 29.05.09 11:31:59 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 55) : I can’t. The round has started.

  • Comment 61, posted at 29.05.09 11:45:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 38) : i have a very selective memory, its a shame i cant select what i want to remember :eek: :lol:

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 56) : KSA needs to approve you. Maybe send him a mail?

  • Comment 63, posted at 29.05.09 11:59:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 56) :

    Your ‘application” :wink: only came through this morning.

    What did you do wrong? :razz:

  • Comment 64, posted at 29.05.09 12:08:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : i’ve seen him on cc thread :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 29.05.09 12:08:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 65) : oops he is everywhere :roll:

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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 29.05.09 12:10:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 60) :
    Im obviously missing something important here.
    So what did they vote on if it was informal, who braaied the best wors? and if it wass something as inane as that, or for that matter being informal could it not then be perceived as having been done in jest. Still wishy washy, only more so now.
    Why are people not willing to tell it as it is, if it is as it is.

  • Comment 68, posted at 29.05.09 12:18:04 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 64) :
    Pokkel you pilluck! you picked the Same SB score as me. :sad:

  • Comment 69, posted at 29.05.09 12:20:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 69) : Does that make you a palookah too? :razz:

  • Comment 70, posted at 29.05.09 12:23:48 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 70) :

    I wanna know who the palookahs are who actually voted for the Royal XV to win. :shock:

  • Comment 71, posted at 29.05.09 12:25:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : Did you see that NZ tv is showing the Lions game???? :shock:

  • Comment 72, posted at 29.05.09 12:26:36 by Rahul Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : :shock:

  • Comment 73, posted at 29.05.09 12:27:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) :

    Oh shit!! I have to make picks for thta SB!! Was wondering what you gyuys are ganning on about!!

  • Comment 74, posted at 29.05.09 12:28:10 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 72) : This may be Royal XV’s big break!

  • Comment 75, posted at 29.05.09 12:28:36 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 73) :

    Rekinek..or should it be Redhanded,…?? :lol:

  • Comment 76, posted at 29.05.09 12:29:45 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : stranger things has happened before :lol: rekinek comes to mind

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  • @rekinek (Comment 75) :

    And maybe the Chiefs would get there big break…I think I am going for a Chiefs win here…

  • Comment 78, posted at 29.05.09 12:30:58 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 76) : :mrgreen: pssst

    @Prof. Ice (Comment 78) : you never know hey.

  • Comment 79, posted at 29.05.09 12:38:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 78) : tsk! tsk! tsk! :roll: daars nie pille nie :wink:

  • Comment 80, posted at 29.05.09 12:38:50 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 77) : pssst pssst pssst :wink:

  • Comment 81, posted at 29.05.09 12:43:17 by rekinek Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 80) :

    One can always HOPE!! :twisted:

    No…nothing can save me anymore!! :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 29.05.09 12:46:37 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • JARSON X, JARSON X :!:

    You must go to User Statistics immediately.

    What do I win? :mrgreen:

    Uhhhh, I can stop treating you people to some nonsense :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 29.05.09 12:48:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 83) : tickets to a western pensioners game :grin: congratulations

  • Comment 84, posted at 29.05.09 12:50:52 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 83) : of all the things i’ve lost, i miss my mind the most

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 84) : can I pass it to charity or would it be uncharitable :-)

  • Comment 86, posted at 29.05.09 12:58:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 86) : i think wpw will enjoy them :razz:

  • Comment 87, posted at 29.05.09 13:01:00 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 85) : perhaps it still can be found.

    how far are you :?:

  • Comment 88, posted at 29.05.09 13:01:03 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 88) : 1582, almost 21 :lol:

  • Comment 89, posted at 29.05.09 13:02:31 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 89) : oops that’s too close for comfort :mrgreen:

    i’m off now – do not talk too much.

  • Comment 90, posted at 29.05.09 13:05:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 90) : i will :lol: enjoy

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