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Steyn: It was difficult to be back at Flyhalf


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :2009 Lions Tour, In the news, Springboks on 3 Jun 2009 at 05:45
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There is still no clarity about who will man the fort for the Springboks against the British and Irish Lions on June 20.

And Bok coach, Peter de Villiers, has been keeping mum and was not prepared to shed any light on the matter on Tuesday.

He also did not want to say much about the role Frans Steyn would play in the first Test in Durban. Steyn himself, who has been earmarked by several experts for the fullback position, does not know where the Bok coach will use him.

JJ Harmes reports for Sport 24 that JP Pietersen, Jaque Fourie, Earl Rose, Odwa Ndungane and Ruan Pienaar are other candidates who have successfully played fullback.

De Villiers hinted that Morné Steyn could be considered for the fullback position when he announced his team on Monday, but again chose not to elaborate.

“I have time on my side. There is enough time left to decide about that”, was all that the coach would commit to.

Rightly so, but Bok supporters will be greatly reassured once De Villiers openly puts his trust in a specific player.

Even though uncertainty surrounds Steyn, the versatile Sharks player, is just happy to be apart of the Bok set up.

“I am just really happy to be part of the group. I will even play lock if I have to and really don’t mind where I play.”

But Steyn admitted that his fullback game was a bit rusty. “I think I remember playing there once or twice early last year for the Sharks in the Super14. So I don’t really have an idea how the rules would allow for that.”

The 22-year-old has played in 27 Tests since making his debut in 2006 against Ireland, but De Villiers used him primarily as a substitute in 2008. Against Italy, he played flyhalf and in the first Three Nations matches, he played outside centre. Steyn was a substitute eight times.

“I do what is best for the team. I wanted to play centre this year at the Sharks, but then Ruan was injured and I had to play flyhalf,” explained Steyn.

He admitted that it didn’t go as well as he had hoped.

“Yes, the supporters were rather critical of me. It was difficult to suddenly have to play there again. People expect certain things of me, but I had a certain role with the Sharks. I had to take the ball a lot and run with it. The spectators didn’t always understand that.”



102 Comments

  • like i have said 100 times in here , this kid has had to do more then any other damn rugby player as he was stuffed around from position to position

    and we will probably lose him …
    south africans dont deserve talent like this , they to stupid to know what to do with it…

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.06.09 07:33:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • so chances are he now will be a full back … which i believe will suit him but but but but but

    again its steyn that gets stuffed around ,and if he stays with the sharks he will play where ???

    full back ? center ?? hell he shouldnt mention the word lock to loudly they prolly will force him to play there too

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.06.09 07:39:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 1) :

    He has not been great since the RWC win against England.

    He did play quite a few games at 12 this year before Ruan got injured.

    If you are not happy with them moving him to 10 then who should have played there???

    Frans is overrated and needs to produce the goods or he might just not play for the Boks during the Tri Nations.

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.06.09 07:41:13 by wpw Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 2) :

    Well he wanted to play flyhalf and what happened when he was given the chance???

    He was SHITE!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.06.09 07:42:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 1) : i guess I’m too stupid to have seen the magical performances he’s delivered over the last two years…

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.06.09 07:42:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : who said he wanted to?? the press??
    think about it

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.06.09 07:44:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 1) :

    What do you mean probably?

    He has been listed by Racing metro as an incoming transfer already, so in my mind him leaving has been confirmed already.

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.06.09 07:45:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : rob if he was left in one position like other players you would have seen a different side to him
    when he started gelling and playing well at center what happened??
    he got shifted

    plus rob you cant see what you dont want to mate

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.06.09 07:45:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : KSA mate who know , i mean his agent are denying

    so who knows?

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.06.09 07:46:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 6) :

    It WAS the press but those little ” ” things in the articles lead me to believe they were actually his words. :razz:

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.06.09 07:46:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • If this kid played for kiwi ?? we would have seen him in one position and we would have been calling him a star

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.06.09 07:48:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : I’m sure it weas on the front page of the SASI – “Steyn – I want to play flyhalf”. Or SA Rugby Magazine. Late last year/early this year.

    He has definitly been quoted at some stage as saying that was his preferred position. It may not be now, but if he wanted it and wasn’t good enough there, so be it.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.06.09 07:50:03 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 6) :

    On more than one occasion PDV said Steyn told him he prefers flyhalf.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.06.09 07:52:05 by wpw Reply
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  • hell maybe he did maybe he didnt ffs kSA at the time he was 19 years old
    2 and a half seasons has passed since then

    you never said or did stupid things when you were 19??
    a little later in your career did you mature?? and become better at what you do??

    why arent we holding the fact that ruan wanted to stay scrummy against him ??

    and ruan is lucky he got shifted to one other position and left there the work it out

    hell steyns now onto the next position

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.06.09 07:52:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 12) :

    Yip.

    He has flip flopped a few times on the 10 – 12 decision and I am not sure what his latest position is.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.06.09 07:54:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : one DUMONT Godfried is also listed as a current player on their books…

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.06.09 07:55:04 by Baldrick Reply

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  • anyhows im off to work
    chat laters

    have a GD all

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.06.09 07:56:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 14) : No, that was either late last year or early this year, so don’t blame the inexperience of youth.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.06.09 07:57:03 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 14) :

    No but now you are moving the goal posts of the discussion.

    Initially you said he never said it, it was the press, now you are saying he said it but it was excusable because he was young and inexperienced.

    I agree with what you are saying NOW, but that is NOT what you said at first.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.06.09 07:57:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 16) : seriaas?

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.06.09 07:57:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 16) : :shock:

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.06.09 07:58:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • my biggest problem with Steyn is and has always been that he thinks he’s better than he is and that he doesn’t listen to advice.

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.06.09 07:59:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 11) :

    Like Ice Toeava???

    He is about the same age as Frans and he played 15, 13, 10 for the All Blacks, Hurricanes and the Blues.

    I don’t see HIS game suffering!!! :roll:

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.06.09 07:59:41 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : I think it’s more a case of Racing not having up-to-date records. Monty is definitely still in Durban with the Sharks. He last played for Racing about 18 months ago.

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.06.09 08:00:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 16) :

    Do you have a URL for me on that?

    Where was Dumond between 2004 aand 2007? He was off the SA radar for 2 years, did he play for Racing Metro?

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.06.09 08:03:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : he did indeed. I think Sizwe Zondo is also with them

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.06.09 08:06:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) :

    Yip he played for Metro in the 2006/7 season.

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.06.09 08:07:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :

    And he played for US Oyonnax in France in 2008. Seems like Dumond is NOT a player who feels the season is to long, he playes in both NH and SH seasons.

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.06.09 08:09:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : http://www.racing-metro92.com/les_anciens.php

    I reckon it’s not going to be easy getting news on Frans if he does go there, they have about 1 article a week – if that!

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.06.09 08:42:16 by Baldrick Reply

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  • Dont you guys think that his selection may indicate that he is staying right here in RSA. That was my first thought.

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.06.09 08:44:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : Probably does listen to advice, just not from the right people.

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.06.09 08:44:53 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 30) :

    I’d be very happy if that is the case.

    Rob is probably gonna shoot me for that. :wink:

    I will qualify that comment though with the previso that he doesn’t play at 10.

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.06.09 08:51:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Fight Fight Fight Fight :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.06.09 09:02:13 by Rahul Reply

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  • I wonder how Rose would have done had he been afforded all the opportunities Frans has had, even if it was in 15 different positions.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.06.09 09:06:36 by Morné Reply
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  • Even though uncertainty surrounds Steyn, the versatile Sharks player, is just happy to be APART of the Bok set up….

    for a moment I thought THAT statement might make Rob a very happy man… :twisted:

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.06.09 09:11:36 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 34) :

    Not nearly as good and he would probably be broken by now.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.06.09 09:12:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 35) :

    read that this am and was going to change it. but multitasking got the better of me AGAIN. :sad:

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.06.09 09:14:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 34) :
    Hopefully you will be able to see first hand from the press box at Newlands for many seasons to come.

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.06.09 09:17:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • ha ha. has this guy finally realised that full back may just be the position that saves his career. he was average at twelve and bloody awful at ten. yet when he is given time to think (that fullback would offer) he created some magic. i am pleased you finally woke up frans and started making your own decisions.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.06.09 09:19:55 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 35) : Freudian slip…

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.06.09 09:20:28 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 40) :

    BB Harmse wrote the article, I doubt he knows about Freud. :wink:

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.06.09 09:24:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • i think frans would be an awesome fullback, but he must just stay there and specialise there

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.06.09 09:29:41 by war1 Reply
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  • just imagine . . .fransie could be the first guy to successfully land a drop goal from behind his own tryline!! :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.06.09 09:32:22 by war1 Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 36) :

    Oh you mean similar to Brent Russell who received how many Bok caps?

    @Salmonoid (Comment 38) :

    I doubt it, one bad game and this guy will be lynched.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.06.09 09:32:32 by Morné Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : :lol:

    @war1 (Comment 43) : through his own posts maybe

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.06.09 09:34:13 by Rahul Reply

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  • Frans has been the victim of his own arrogance, and a lack of leadership from coaches who should have told him to shut up and play where he was told – I think PDV has been the only one to do that to an extent.

    He has been shifted around too much, but he also remains a selfish player. Fullback could be a great position for him, for years to come.

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.06.09 09:40:04 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : agreed, agreed, agreed

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.06.09 09:43:49 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 44) :

    Please don’t compare Rose to Russell?

    Russell was playing great provincial Rugby when he got called up to the Boks, Rose is not.

    Was it last season or before that, that Rose made that intercept and got caught from behind by a FORWARD because of lack of pace? Slow, Small, weak in defence, the list get’s longer.

    Comparing Rose to Russell is like saying Rose should be the Bok flyhalf because the Aus flyhalf (Giteau) is also small.

    Russell has pulled off more successfull tackles in one season than Rose has pulled off in his whole career.

    I don’t mean to sound like that other prick but “KAK MAN!!!” :wink:

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.06.09 09:44:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : Hey where are you now? Got min dae left in your sand castle!

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.06.09 09:47:38 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 45) : i wonder if that counts as 3 points for the other team, or a 5m scrum or what? :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.06.09 09:48:00 by war1 Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) :

    I agree.

    But not nearly as daft as comparing Rory to Bakkies!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.06.09 09:48:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 50) : Im sure KSA will let us know in a sec :wink:

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.06.09 09:51:47 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 52) : seriously i think its irrelevant, result as if you had kicked it normally, just a waste of time and energy to drop kick it

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.06.09 09:55:04 by war1 Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 52) : but i still think frans might back himself to land a drop from his own 22 at least, he has self-confidence in those things, I’ll give him that much

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.06.09 09:58:09 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 54) :
    Only Jaco the Baptist can kick a drop-goal from his own 22.

    It is written.

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.06.09 10:00:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) : maybe thats why fransie’s hair and beard were so long earlier in the season? :wink:

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.06.09 10:02:41 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 54) : his 10m line maybe…

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.06.09 10:03:31 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 57) : yeah, but we can exaggerate sometimes, :wink:

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.06.09 10:04:51 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 44) :
    Pity the poor coach at Province/Stormers if Earl does make the move, pressure, pressure and more pressure.

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.06.09 10:05:08 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 56) :
    :twisted:

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.06.09 10:07:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 51) :
    Bakkies makes a crap scrummie, temperament is right though.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 60) : hmmm, i reckon chuck norris could do it . . . yet even though fransie thinks he is chuck norris sometimes, alas he is not

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.06.09 10:10:13 by war1 Reply
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  • Go Steyn, just do what you do best!

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.06.09 10:19:08 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 63) even though i joke bout his dropgoal attempts, still think frans is a class player, he just needs to be managed well, also he will mature, i mean he is only 21!

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  • @war1 (Comment 64) : make that 22

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) :

    Hang on a sec.

    Rose has too been shifted from pillar to post, ignored for player like the infamous Cutman at the Lions…

    Rose too had brainfarts, same as Russell and Steyn has had in their careers.

    Rose like Russell were defensive liabilities.

    Rose like Russell have something people refer to as an X-Factor, just think back to the CC final of 2007, Rose was amazing that day.

    I see two player having had almost limitless opportunities and the other almost zero.

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.06.09 10:26:26 by Morné Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 65) : He’s ageing fast!

    Good choice at fullback me thinks. As long as he kicks when he should and runs when he should. The drop goal option will stop aimless kicking from the Lions.

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.06.09 10:26:29 by Rahul Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 64) : hopefully he will have less brainfarts when he is older, i really think Steyn should be a fullback and he might just become that classy player we believe him to be

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.06.09 10:27:32 by JarsonX Reply
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  • And I am not talking about when he got called up only, I am talking about the persistance in their selections even when they fluffed badly.

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.06.09 10:27:46 by Morné Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 68) : maybe his time in france will help him, like it did percy

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  • @war1 (Comment 70) : well like percy’s time in newport helped him i mean

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  • there is also another question bout frans steyn. if he does go to france, will he return to the sharks?

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  • @war1 (Comment 50) :

    It counts as nothing, what happens next will be determined by what happens to the ball. knock on LO etc.

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.06.09 10:59:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 51) :

    Well they can both floor a player with one PK. :razz:

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.06.09 11:01:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) : thanks :wink: thought so

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  • @war1 (Comment 75) : took him long enough! So there is no “own goal” in rugby

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.06.09 11:07:11 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 76) : yeah, think of how you can dot the ball down behind your won try line

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  • @Rahul (Comment 76) : uh thats OWN try line

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) :

    Penalty Kick?? :lol:

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.06.09 11:10:34 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) : ksa, since you can only score three points by kicking a drop kick over the posts, what is the exact definition of a drop kick and are there ever marginal cases of whether it was just a kick or a proper drop kick?

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  • @Rahul (Comment 76) :

    Nope!

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.06.09 11:15:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 80) : The ball has to hit the ground before it is kicked. And go between the uprights and over the crossbar :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.06.09 11:15:39 by Rahul Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 80) :

    The Definition is very simple actually:
    Drop kick: The ball is dropped from the hand or hands to the ground and kicked as it rises from its first bounce.

    As to whether the kick was a drop kick or a punt (kick without it bouncing) is the referee’s call.

    More often that not the drop kick or punt kick decision needs to be made at the Kick off where some inexperienced guys punt it rather than drop it.

  • Comment 83, posted at 03.06.09 11:19:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Yes, the supporters were rather critical of me. It was difficult to suddenly have to play there again. People expect certain things of me, but I had a certain role with the Sharks. I had to take the ball a lot and run with it. The spectators didn’t always understand that.”

    Did he by any chance read SW in the past few months?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 03.06.09 11:20:55 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 83) :

    So – if you punt it – no points?? :shock:

    Where is my Gilrfriends Guide to rugby??? :roll: :wink: You people really need to get me one!

  • Comment 85, posted at 03.06.09 11:22:41 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 84) : He apparently doesn’t get on with RD? :???:

  • Comment 86, posted at 03.06.09 11:25:46 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Comment 85) :

    Yip. ZERO points. it has to be a drop kick to score a drop goal.

    Aussie Rules uses the punt to score.

  • Comment 87, posted at 03.06.09 11:30:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 83) : ok, i can imagine it may get interesting in some under 9 matches for example

  • Comment 88, posted at 03.06.09 11:32:43 by war1 Reply
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  • ‘Bok supporters will be greatly reassured once De Villiers openly puts his trust in a specific player.’

    He has…. its Rose, and we are not happy

  • Comment 89, posted at 03.06.09 11:34:30 by Rahul Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 88) :

    or over here, where you regularly get local teams to play against visiting navy ships. :lol: Some of those guys just have NO clue how to drop kick a ball. :razz:

  • Comment 90, posted at 03.06.09 11:35:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 87) :

    Thanks – never too young to learn!! :wink:

    you see – things that you guys take for granted (I suppose its easier to understand the LAWS if you played yourself), is not always common knowledge to someone like myself.. :lol:

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.06.09 11:38:33 by Prof. Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 90) : it takes quite a bit of practice, i mean even passing a rugby ball can be difficult to learn

  • Comment 92, posted at 03.06.09 11:38:35 by war1 Reply
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  • ok hopefully chat later everyone

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.06.09 11:44:18 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 92) :

    YIP

    i am luck to have been a scrumhalf so am pretty adept at both

  • Comment 94, posted at 03.06.09 11:45:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 93) :

    cheers

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.06.09 11:45:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • “But Steyn admitted that his fullback game was a bit rusty. “I think I remember playing there once or twice early last year for the Sharks in the Super14. So I don’t really have an idea how the rules would allow for that.” ….. I think I remember :shock: , do any of you remember when he got concussion.

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.06.09 12:13:16 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 96) : The bit that confuses me is I don’t really have an idea how the rules would allow for that

    Allow for what?
    What rules?

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.06.09 12:21:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 97) :
    Was also wondring, but it is a JJ Harmse piece.

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.06.09 12:24:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 98) :

    BB Harmse. :wink:

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.06.09 12:26:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 99) : :lol: , what next, BJ.

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.06.09 12:51:00 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • He belongs at 12. He’s too “flamboyant” on defence to be 15 and he’s too selfish to be 10.

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.06.09 13:06:35 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 101) : F Steyn that is. But I think it was obvious who I was on about. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.06.09 14:20:07 by klempie Reply

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