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‘Congratulations are in order Geech’


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Posted in :2009 Lions Tour, In the news, Springboks on 30 Jun 2009 at 07:35
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Colourful Springbok coach Peter de Villiers, as animated as only he can get, has stirred the emotions ahead of the third and final Test against the British and Irish Lions by suggesting that maybe it is time for rival coach Ian McGeechan to congratulate the Bok mentor on his series victory.

Jan de Koning writes for rugby365.com that on the same day that he passionately defended suspended flank Schalk Burger and was then forced into a joint apology over his eye gouging statements at the weekend, De Villiers said it is time for the Lions and their supporters to “honour” the fact that South Africa have won a fiercely contested series.

The Boks took an unassailable 2-0 lead – with just Saturday’s third Test in Johannesburg remaining – and De Villiers revealed that neither the Lions coach, McGeechan, nor any of his staff or players, have bothered to congratulate the South Africans on their series victory.

In fact the Lions camp, as well as the large British and Irish media contingent, have focussed on the allegations that Burger eye-gouged wing Luke Fitzgerald in the first minute of last Saturday’s 28-25 Bok victory in Pretoria.

Burger has since been banned for eight weeks for “an act contrary to good sportsmanship” – by making contact with the face in the eye area of Fitzgerald.

While McGeechan has spoken at length about his team’s “run of bad luck” and suggested that the Lions could easily have been 2-0 up instead of two games down, De Villiers felt they could have been a bit more graceful in defeat.

“We are the winners of a series, and we are happy about it,” De Villiers told a packed media gathering on Monday, adding: “This country can now rejoice.

“I would love the Lions supporters to honour the fact that we won.

“It was tough, it was the best, the hardest Test series I saw in quite a while. We came back from a poor start and never thought we would be able to come back, because this is a brilliant Lions team that is here [in South Africa].

“What I would love is just for people to stand up and take it on the chin and say, ‘well done South Africa, well done for what you have achieved in this series and well done to everybody out there’, like we [South Africa] did in 1997 [when the Lions won the series].”

When asked if McGeechan or any of his team and management members have offered any congratulations to the Boks, De Villiers said: “Well, nobody has congratulated us up to now, but maybe they will do so after the third Test.

“That doesn’t take away the magnitude of winning the Test series and doesn’t take away the joy in our camp.

“The guys are so overjoyed that these little things, like last night’s JO [judicial hearing which handed down the ban to Burger], didn’t even take away the fact that we won it.”

* Meanwhile South African Rugby Union President Oregan Hoskins issued a joint statement with De Villiers on Monday to “apologise” for comments in the wake of last Saturday’s Test against the Lions that appeared to give the impression that the organisation condoned eye gouging.

In the statement – as De Villiers did in the media briefing earlier in the day – Hoskins and De Villiers jointly condemned all acts of foul play and sent out a clear message that such acts would not be tolerated in South African and fell outside the spirit as well as the letter of the Laws of the Game of Rugby.

“We would like to apologise to the rugby community for the erroneous impression that acts of foul play are in any way condoned by South African rugby,” said Hoskins in the statement.

“That has never been the case and is not now, and we support strong action by rugby authorities when such acts occur.

“Rugby is a physical game and a hard game, but it is a game that rightly prides itself on good sportsmanship and we as SARU categorically condemn any such action. SARU fully supports any action that the IRB feels appropriate to stamp out eye gouging in the game.”

De Villiers added that as Springbok coach he stood against play that was not in the spirit of the game.

“Eye-gouging is something that we as a team will never be part of,” he said.  “The same applies to biting, head-butting, spear tackling or any other foul play that doesn’t belong in the game.

“My comments on Saturday were based on what I know of Schalk Burger as a player and not on what occurred. It was never my intention to suggest that I condone foul play – that is the last thing I would ever do and I apologise for creating any other impression.”



120 Comments

  • “Eye-gouging is something that we as a team will never be part of,” he said.

    Um, what did Burger then get suspended for???

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.06.09 08:55:00 by Baldrick Reply
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  • So much for being magnanimous in victory Div.

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.06.09 09:03:44 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • This whole thing is just dragging on…for absolutely no reason.

    Let’s just go and get the clean sweep…

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.06.09 09:17:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 2) :
    Wait a minute now – he is merely pointing out that amidst all the whining by the BIL (players, coaches and fans), they haven’t managed to do the decent thing and at least say congratulations.

    Its not PDV who is not showing dignity, its their lot.

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.06.09 09:22:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) : Fair enough, but when do you ever here us congratulatuing the Aussies or Kiwis for handing us our arses in the Tri-nations year after year.

    And one thing that was always drilled into me at junior levels was to be a decent in victory not a gloating fucking idiot like Div has been – the arrogance of tha man is despicable.

    I apologise for my language but its the only way it can be expressed.

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.06.09 10:00:48 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • “We are the winners of a series, and we are happy about it,” De Villiers told a packed media gathering on Monday, adding: “This country can now rejoice.

    “I would love the Lions supporters to honour the fact that we won.

    “It was tough, it was the best, the hardest Test series I saw in quite a while. We came back from a poor start and never thought we would be able to come back, because this is a brilliant Lions team that is here [in South Africa].

    “What I would love is just for people to stand up and take it on the chin and say, ‘well done South Africa, well done for what you have achieved in this series and well done to everybody out there’, like we [South Africa] did in 1997 [when the Lions won the series].”

    OMFG!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.06.09 10:00:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) : We know that and should we have expected anything else?? Snor knows nothing about the game’s participants if he expects gracious defeat from the Poms et al. LOL

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.06.09 10:02:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 5) : Ditto on all that….including the language.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.06.09 10:03:10 by klempie Reply

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  • I have no sympathy for the Lions especially after I saw a replay of the final test in Durban in 1997. The Boks lost 18-15

    Boks scored 3 tries missed 6 kicks at goal.
    Lions scored 5 pen and 1 drop.

    The Lions won the series fair and square….now stop whinging you BIL idiots.

    And PdV …please shut the f… up.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.06.09 10:08:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • It’s very obvious that the senior players in the team are running the Boks and not PdV…thank God for John Smit.

    Imagine the force the Springboks would be with Robbie Deans at the helm…

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.06.09 10:10:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) : Imagine if he had the support of the nation behind him.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.06.09 10:19:08 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 11) : Then what? He’d shut his gob?

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.06.09 10:21:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 11) : I have tried my best to support PdV….but he is making it harder and harder for me to have any respect for him….in the beginning I thought he was funny and had a good laugh at his statements….I also thought that SARU would have kept him away from the media by now…..at the moment he is just plain embarrasing.

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.06.09 10:24:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : sounds familiar… I’m still trying every now and then tho.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.06.09 10:35:09 by molly Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) : How is it obvious?

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.06.09 10:36:39 by Claytie Reply
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  • @Claytie (Comment 15) : It’s obvious because we’re still managing to win despite Snor’s ridiculous outlook on the game as a whole.

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.06.09 10:41:04 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) :

    Boet, with all due respect that is a crock of shit and you know it!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.06.09 10:44:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @Claytie (Comment 15) : In what I’ve seen of Snor up to now, I don’t think he can run a primary school outfit properly without being attacked by overly emotional mommies :shock:

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.06.09 10:49:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 16) : Not good enough, sorry dude.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.06.09 10:49:15 by Claytie Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 16) :
    I can only hope that you are taking the mickey with that particular pearl.

    @Pokkel (Comment 10) :
    What if we did have Deans?

    You think maybe we might have beaten the BIL in this series maybe?

    Or maybe you prefer a Straueli “judge me on the World Cup” approach?

    Or perhaps Carel du Plessis’ insistence that how you played, rather than what the result was, is what matters?

    Call me near-sighted, but we have just beaten the BIL, and I think the coach should be given some credit.

    If the bloody players were so good at coaching themselves, how come they didnt win every game under Jake?

    People complained about Jake until he left, and now the same with PDV.

    I think its the bloody arrogance of the average SA rugby supporter that think that we have the right to walk over any team, and so when we don’t, they grasp desparately for a scape-goat.

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.06.09 10:50:23 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 18) : Ooooookay then.

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.06.09 10:51:52 by Claytie Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : With all due respect PdV is a crock of shit(or he’s just acting it at the moment and should get an Oscar for it.)

    See my post 13…I’m gatvol of PdV making an ass of himself and at the same time of SA Rugby and it’s supporters

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.06.09 10:53:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think I know who our next coach should be… John Smit, I mean look at him he’s a brilliant coach already… apparently.

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.06.09 10:54:30 by molly Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 16) :

    So every other coach before him coached the team but not PDV.

    The players (most of whom we coached by him at age group level) decided to ‘run the team’ on their own even though there might be a chance they might just get dropped???

    I can’t believe people actually think in this way… :shock:

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.06.09 10:54:34 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : Look I agree in large with what you say….but if he is the great coach let him coach…..JUST DON”T LET HIM SPEAK

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.06.09 10:55:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : :evil: :evil: :evil: So true :!:

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.06.09 10:56:25 by Charlie Reply

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  • Pokkel must also be one of those who has chats about the coach to several Bok players :roll:

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.06.09 10:57:06 by Claytie Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 25) : PDV…Please… ZIP IT :!: :!: :!:

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.06.09 10:57:12 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : How do you think a team meeting goes laying out the gameplan? If Div conveys the same outlook to the players in team meetings as he does in public, I could only imagine giggles from the back row (no pun intended) of the class. The majority of the domestic and international public, are completely bemused by him. Why would the players be any different? Fact is Pokkel has a fair point. The senior players have probably had to increase their level of responsibility in getting strategy across to the players. Them or DM and GG. I do the same with my boss. It’s called managing your manager.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.06.09 10:57:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) :

    I agree that he makes stupid comments in the media but so did every other coach before him.

    As far as I’m concerned we are winning and that is all that matters.

    FACT: Boks under PDV – 73% winning ratio :cool:

    I rest my case!!

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.06.09 10:58:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 23) : That’s a good call.

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.06.09 10:59:23 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 24) : You’re nitpicking Wes. Weigh div’s behaviour and management skills against any other top tier international coach (including Johnson). It’s laughable.

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.06.09 11:00:57 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 30) : PdV is taking ‘making stupid comments’ to new levels and I’m can’t remember any being nearly as bad and continious as Snor.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.06.09 11:01:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 32) : He was starting to gain my respect after the first Test. But the last 2 weeks of SnorTV have been unbelievable.

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.06.09 11:01:47 by klempie Reply

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  • VIVA PDV…VIVA…VIVA BOKKE…VIVA :!: :!: :!:

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.06.09 11:02:48 by Charlie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 30) : And we’ll become just like the Aussie cricket team. World beaters that no one respects or admires. Unlike the ABs which have a completely opposite aura.

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.06.09 11:04:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 29) :

    Perhaps the players giggle now and then – but that doesn’t mean nothing gets done.

    Look, we can all assume whatever we want to assume but how’s a bit of consistency? If the players are in charge then congratulate them when we win and blame them when we screw up. Blame John Smit for the changes in Durban and all the other mistakes that have been committed so far…

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.06.09 11:05:28 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 29) :

    I love the way you include the words ‘fact is’ when we all know you are just stating your opinion which in this case is NOT a fact.

    Players in the current team who were coached by PDV at Age group level:

    Adi Jacobs
    Ruan Pienaar
    Francois Steyn
    JDV
    JPP
    Spies
    Morne Steyn

    PDV was successful at age group level while these players played under him. Why wouldn’t they trust his judgement now???

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.06.09 11:06:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 36) :
    I’m not looking for admiration at this moment. The next 3N and WC will do…

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.06.09 11:07:50 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 32) :

    So you’d rather prefer an eloquent coach that a winning coach??

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.06.09 11:07:59 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 32) : @klempie (Comment 36) :

    Be like me – try and draw a line between PdV the coach and PdV the public speaker…

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.06.09 11:10:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • Lol. This dude belongs in a straight jacket.

    Crikey he has a way with words. Too funny.

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.06.09 11:10:10 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 38) : @blackshark (Comment 37) :

    OK PDV is a great coach……I think….I dunno….maybe….and he has a great record……he can’t get fired for having a 73% win rate….but something is not right if SARU is investigating PdV for so- called racial remarks…

    OK I’m leaving before I’m in trouble….like Klempie

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.06.09 11:11:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 41) : I would love that if we could draw that line….but only if we completely eliminate the PdV the Public speaker

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.06.09 11:13:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 37) : Huh? I am not blaming anyone for any screw ups on the field. Where did I say that? I said just 2 weeks ago that I respected Div for going back to percentage rugby after last year’s fawk ups. It’s not the gameplan I take issue with. It’s his stupid idiotic blabbermouth embarrassing the entire nation. If he is communicating with his players the same way that he’s communicating with the public then “in my opinion” [for your benefit Wes], the senior players and the rest of management will necessarily be having to shoulder more of the communication.

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.06.09 11:14:52 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 40) : I’m saying we could have had both. That…OR GET HIM OFF THE CAMERAS PLEASE!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.06.09 11:16:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 41) : See 40. :)

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.06.09 11:16:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 44) :
    He’s said some stuff that made sense…and some stuff that made me wince…maybe SARU should remind HIM where to draw the line. :razz:

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.06.09 11:17:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 41) : unfortunately the REST of the world isn’t like you and the British press are definately not like you and WILL not draw that line

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.06.09 11:19:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) : Exactly…

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.06.09 11:20:20 by klempie Reply

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  • Ah well – GO BOKKE!

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.06.09 11:21:49 by blackshark Reply

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  • I read this on SuperBru…

    Div set to mend fences
    Johannesburg – This is the week in which Springbok rugby coach Peter de Villiers is being taken to task by the SA Rugby Union for his strange and sometimes racist utterances in company of, and also directed at, the media.
    The management committee of SARU has mandated the union’s president Oregan Hoskins, to speak to the coach who has alienated himself from the South African and overseas media and, in the opinion of some overseas pressman, ridiculed himself and “embarrassed” South African rugby.
    It is indeed a pity – and something that Hoskins will probably address -that De Villiers declined the opportunity for “media training” to make his relationship with the press an easier and happier one.
    That to a large degree would have prevented the reluctance of the media to ask him questions which are now increasingly being directed at his captain John Smit or other panel members at press conferences.
    There has been an increase in criticism of the coach in recent weeks, which now openly ridicules De Villiers – and by implication, the Springbok management and the country’s rugby in general.
    The under-pressure coach has often been quick to accuse journalists of racism when he comes under fire.
    But a large portion of this criticism comes from writers who are not white, as pointed out by website planetrugby.com’s Danny Stephens: “Three columnists in the past week alone have written highly critical reviews of him, not one of them white, all of them concerned at his apparent non-sporting agenda.
    “One white columnist confided in me that he felt unable to write a similar tome as he felt too pressured by that agenda.
    “Add to all of this the contempt and rudeness with which he treats the media and you complete the picture of a man who simply cannot rise to the challenge of being an ambassador, either for the game or for his country…
    “De Villiers also did not endear himself to the media at the meeting on Monday with statements such as ‘I’m a God-given talent’ and insisting that he did not think the eye-gouging of Schalk Burger was in fact just that.
    On a somewhat funny but ultimately macabre manner, he referred to the spate of injuries to Springbok players: “It’s like being in an accident. If somebody dies in a car accident you just replace them and that’s what we will have to do.” who in the world replaces a driver that dies in a car accident!???! LoL
    It must be remembered that De Villiers’ utterances are widely publicised overseas – and the media play a huge role in portraying South African rugby for what it is overseas.
    To that end, the following helped to further divide the Bok management and the media: “I’m not ducking the issue. It’s just that I’m working within the system.
    “I’m not like you (the media), who have no systems.”
    Even before the start of the Lions tour, De Villiers ruffled media feathers when he informed sports editors at a “closed” meeting that the press in South Africa were technically ignorant – a harsh statement for a group with a number of provincial coaches among them.
    He has gone further after the first Test ten days ago, as written by Gavin Rich in superrugby.co.za: “A former Springbok coach once got into hot water for suggesting South Africans don’t have a great knowledge of rugby, and it seems that De Villiers is saying something similar now.
    “If that is the case, he is insulting the greatest stake-holders in the game, those who make him who he is.”
    And: “The coach himself admitted on Saturday night he got it wrong, to turn around now and suggest not only did he not get it wrong, but should have made the changes sooner, is disingenuous.
    “Everyone who knows the slightest thing about rugby and watched Saturday’s game, knows who got it wrong, and why the Boks almost lost.
    “But it is De Villiers’s latest little parable to explain his selections, this time Ricky Januarie, that should really be taken issue with.
    “This is what De Villiers said about Januarie on Monday: ‘I am not concerned about Ricky’s form. Look, if you go to a black mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you don’t go back. If you go to a white mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you go back and make sure he fixes the problem. What I am saying is give Ricky a chance.’”
    Too often the racist card has been played by de Villiers, the most infamous being the retort to a senior and respected Black journalist to make up his mind whether he is Black or White when enquiring about a De Villiers selection of the player of colour. So he cannot be wrong and if questioned (even by a black journalist) it is racism…he oke must be a coconut then…Ha-Ha
    The media have become more outspoken about what they perceive as someone who is out of his depth coaching the world’s topside at international level after only a rather unsuccessful provincial stint with the Valke and then the national junior sides.
    In another of his columns, Rich queried the input of the De Villiers into the coaching of the team: “It is hardly a secret any more that the senior players run the Springbok team. And rightly so if you consider the success they have enjoyed, and the Super 14 and World Cup medals held by some key members of the side.”
    Just like Rich queried De Villiers’ credentials as coach, Tank Lanning, former Western Province prop and a columnist for sport24.com, has been very blunt in his assertion that De Villiers is not up to the task as a coach.
    “I have supported Peter de Villiers from the get go, but my oath, the man has now been exposed for the fraud he is.”
    Perhaps agreeing to the media training previously suggested – but rejected by De Villiers – could help to swing some support back to him.

  • Comment 52, posted at 30.06.09 11:22:05 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) : The British have a press? :roll:

  • Comment 53, posted at 30.06.09 11:23:01 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 52) :

    I entered the italic parts…

    But anyhow…
    “I have obviously been too busy these days…how did I miss all of this…is this guy for real!??!”

  • Comment 54, posted at 30.06.09 11:25:16 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 52) : Well said and unfortunately true….as much as I want it to be different.

    @blackshark (Comment 53) : We can as supporters turn a blind eye….but the rest of the world won’t

  • Comment 55, posted at 30.06.09 11:28:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 52) : Thanks for posting that. It basically confirms everything I’ve said.

    My favourite excerpt:

    It is indeed a pity – and something that Hoskins will probably address -that De Villiers declined the opportunity for “media training” to make his relationship with the press an easier and happier one.

    That alone makes the current situation even more unbelievable.

  • Comment 56, posted at 30.06.09 11:30:49 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) :

    Bru, I for one saw more than one of his ‘infamous’ interviews and one thing I can tell you is the media is in the habit of changing or twisting words to suit their agenda.

    You shouldn’t believe everything you read!! :wink:

  • Comment 57, posted at 30.06.09 11:32:35 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 56) :

    “Add to all of this the contempt and rudeness with which he treats the media and you complete the picture of a man who simply cannot rise to the challenge of being an ambassador, either for the game or for his country…

    That’s my second favourite.

  • Comment 58, posted at 30.06.09 11:33:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 57) : what a copout. :roll: :razz:

  • Comment 59, posted at 30.06.09 11:34:26 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 57) : Maybe…but he makes it soooo easy for them

    @klempie (Comment 56) : That really pisses me off……he obviously can’t see where he needs development…..he’s becoming more and more hardegat

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 60) : Yup.

  • Comment 61, posted at 30.06.09 11:37:04 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 59) :

    So you believe everything you read??? :shock:

  • Comment 62, posted at 30.06.09 11:38:05 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 61) : Luckily Rob and KSA aren’t here….we would have been repremanded ages ago

  • Comment 63, posted at 30.06.09 11:38:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 62) :

    I don’t…I for one do not believe a single word written in comment 57…

  • Comment 64, posted at 30.06.09 11:48:10 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 62) : Do you believe nothing you read? The whole “don’t believe everything you read” argument is a copout. If the media aren’t to be trusted then why do you own a TV, subscribe for an internet line or buy newspapers?

  • Comment 65, posted at 30.06.09 11:49:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 56) :

    Mine is where he says that you replace a driver after he dies in a car accident!??!
    O Jinne…speechless…yeh guys it is true…PdV has me speechless…

  • Comment 66, posted at 30.06.09 11:50:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 63) : Why? We’ve said nothing political. We’re within The Rules.

  • Comment 67, posted at 30.06.09 12:00:15 by klempie Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 66) : hehehehehehe

  • Comment 68, posted at 30.06.09 12:02:47 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 67) : Then again, I have been warned previously for stuff that was outside The Rules anyway. :roll:

  • Comment 69, posted at 30.06.09 12:03:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 64) : LOL

  • Comment 70, posted at 30.06.09 12:05:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 65) :

    Reading something and viewing something (in this case an interview) is not the same thing bru.

  • Comment 71, posted at 30.06.09 12:08:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 71) : So you’ve watched all the interviews in which he’s made ridiculous statements?

  • Comment 72, posted at 30.06.09 12:09:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 71) : I think you don’t actually care. You just do it to wind me up. :razz:

  • Comment 73, posted at 30.06.09 12:11:13 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 72) :

    Did i say I watched all of them??? :???:

  • Comment 74, posted at 30.06.09 12:44:56 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 73) :

    I think its best we agree to disagree and leave it at that. :roll:

  • Comment 75, posted at 30.06.09 12:46:04 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 75) : Somehow we’ve managed to chase everyone away. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 30.06.09 12:49:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : Not so easy hehehehe…….Wes obviously will go the PdV Public speaking seminars because he admires the way he speaks so much :wink: .

  • Comment 77, posted at 30.06.09 12:57:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 77) : We expect a full debriefing when he gets back. :razz:

  • Comment 78, posted at 30.06.09 13:00:23 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 77) :
    Well we can’t accuse him of not having a good sense of humour…

    The part about eye-gouging lions in the bushveld cracked me up big time…

    I think Alex Ferguson is a nutcase…and a (b)anker…I hate everything he says…but that doesn’t make him less of a good coach…

  • Comment 79, posted at 30.06.09 13:28:05 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 79) : think Alex Ferguson is a nutcase…and a (b)anker…I hate everything he says :?: :?: :?:

  • Comment 80, posted at 30.06.09 13:32:26 by Me2 Reply

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  • @Me2 (Comment 80) : How can you compare the 2?????

  • Comment 81, posted at 30.06.09 13:34:15 by Me2 Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 79) :

    You forget to add ‘whiskey nose’ / alcoholic!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 30.06.09 13:44:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 79) : When was the last time he came out and told Benitez or Wenger to take it on the chin and congratulate him?

    PS. I’m ashamed I even know who these people are. :oops: :razz:

  • Comment 83, posted at 30.06.09 13:56:58 by klempie Reply

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  • @Me2 (Comment 81) :

    Because I don’t take most things they say seriously.

    @klempie (Comment 83) : He doesn’t have to – the “British press” dos it for him.
    They were all over Benitez for congratulating Man Utd but not Fergie.

  • Comment 84, posted at 30.06.09 14:04:39 by blackshark Reply

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  • “Springbok coach Peter de Villiers, in standing his ground in the face of a fierce media storm, on Monday won a small battle – strongly defending suspended flank Schalk Burger.

    De Villiers, in his own unique linguistic style, insisted that Burger – who was banned for eight weeks after being found guilty of committing an act contrary to good sportsmanship – was not a malicious or nasty person that deliberately engaged in an act of ‘eye gouging’.

    De Villiers made it clear that he does not condone eye gouging – just like he does not condone biting, spitting, head-butting or spear tackles.

    The Bok coach’s engagement with the media – for whom he has made it clear he has very little time – was without doubt one of the most entertaining media gatherings of the year.

    The harder the British and Irish media tried to coax him into a trap, the more he stood his ground on his opinion of Burger.

    De Villiers said he was awaiting the full judgment on Burger’s ban, before they will decide what steps, if any, will be taken.

    However, he was adamant that the stalwart flank is not some deranged animal that goes about deliberately injuring people.

    “I’m against anything that’s not in the spirit of the game,” De Villiers said, adding: “We [the Boks] don’t need to go to that low [levels].

    “To try and even prepare them [the Springbok players] to do things that don’t belong in the game is not how we behave. We will never encourage anybody to be negative.”

    De Villiers then entertained the media by suggesting that if he and his team wanted to ‘eye-gouge’ Lions, they would go to the Bushveld – which ironically is where the B&I Lions are at present, on a two-day R&R.

    However, his position on Burger’s character is what kept the media wags going for almost half-an-hour.

    “Schalk’s nature and character is – if you know the man like I know him – not the kind of person that would go to that measure,” he said, after asked if he changed his view on Burger’s actions.

    This came after De Villiers at the weekend suggested that Burger should not have been yellow carded for the incident involving Lions wing Luke Fitzgerald in the first minute of the Test, won 28-25 by the Boks.

    “I don’t think he did,” De Villiers said, when again pressed on whether he felt Burger’s actions were deliberate.

    “We are passionate about our game and if we were to encourage things like that, we’ll be fighting a lost cause,” he said, adding that they will abide by what stands in the full judgment from the judicial hearing.

    “I watched the TV footage and I am still convinced it was not on purpose,” the Bok coach said, adding: “When he [Burger] saw the footage he was taken aback.

    “If you look at the footage properly and you know the man [Burger] you can see why I said that [on Saturday night],” he added to repeated questions about his defence of the Bok flank.

    De Villiers said he had spoken to Burger, but declined to divulge details of their conversation.

    “He is an honourable man,” De Villiers said.

    He also had a full go at those who suggested that South African players are overly-aggressive and nasty in their physical approach to the game.

    “What we must understand is rugby is a contact sport, and so is dancing,” the Bok coach waded in, adding that in dancing you don’t have the “collisions” you have in rugby.

    “If you analyse the game properly, you will see we could have cited a guy for maliciously jumping with his shoulder into somebody’s face,” he said in reference to Brian O’Driscoll’s head-high tackle that knocked out replacement lock Danie Rossouw.

    “If we want to win games in boardrooms and on TV screens, we might as well go to the nearest ballet shop and buy ourselves some tutus,” the Bok coach added.”

    By Jan de Koning

  • Comment 85, posted at 30.06.09 14:11:05 by wpw Reply
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  • I think PDV is quite funny!!!

    Compare him to the likes of Stroolie and Viljoen and one thing stands out: He has balls and isn’t afraid to say it as it is!!!

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 86, posted at 30.06.09 14:15:36 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 84) : So were it not for the press he would have demanded an acknowledgement? Come on dude. You’re running in circles. :grin:

  • Comment 87, posted at 30.06.09 14:21:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 87) : He’s in love with PdV, but won’t admit it…..it must be the voice that turns him on :roll: :wink:

  • Comment 88, posted at 30.06.09 14:23:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • BOD & Jones on their way home… :shock:

  • Comment 89, posted at 30.06.09 14:26:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • The harder the British and Irish media tried to coax him into a trap, the more he stood his ground on his opinion of Burger.

    Shame. They didn’t know any better. :smile:

    “What we must understand is rugby is a contact sport, and so is dancing,” the Bok coach waded in, adding that in dancing you don’t have the “collisions” you have in rugby.

    The man’s on drugs. LOL

  • Comment 90, posted at 30.06.09 14:27:57 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 88) : Shhhhhhhhh… Rob’s coming. hehe

  • Comment 91, posted at 30.06.09 14:28:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 89) : Adam Jones the prop, after being swept by a Bakkies broom…BOD ask Danie Rossouw for a waltz and colided in the twist :twisted:

  • Comment 92, posted at 30.06.09 14:28:33 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 89) : They are completely gatvol of PdV press statements. :lol:

  • Comment 93, posted at 30.06.09 14:29:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 86) : So do I. But I prefer laughing WITH the Bok coach, rather than at him. :cool:

  • Comment 94, posted at 30.06.09 14:30:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 91) : Shot for the warning :wink:

  • Comment 95, posted at 30.06.09 14:30:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 86) :
    “He has balls and isn’t afraid to say it as it is!!! ”
    He says it in every way other than the way that it is, and I must admit that that does take balls.

  • Comment 96, posted at 30.06.09 14:35:05 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 96) : Very well put.

  • Comment 97, posted at 30.06.09 14:38:02 by klempie Reply

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  • Sammy, Pokkel and I have formed a tripartite alliance. :cool:

  • Comment 98, posted at 30.06.09 14:38:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 98) : sammy???
    @Salmonoid (Comment 96) : is that you?

  • Comment 99, posted at 30.06.09 14:41:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 98) : Alliance that is then. :wink:

  • Comment 100, posted at 30.06.09 14:42:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 99) : ?

  • Comment 101, posted at 30.06.09 14:42:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 101) : ??

  • Comment 102, posted at 30.06.09 14:45:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 102) : Oh I get it. You were asking if Sammy is Salmonoid. He is. :cool:

  • Comment 103, posted at 30.06.09 14:47:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @Klempie – We’ll never know now.

    In any case- I don’t care much for the British media…ag…maybe the media in general.

  • Comment 104, posted at 30.06.09 14:48:44 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 104) : I had already assumed so. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 105, posted at 30.06.09 14:50:28 by klempie Reply

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  • Ill have to be a fairly silent partner in this alliance, month end is always a loooong day.

  • Comment 106, posted at 30.06.09 15:17:36 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 92) :
    Apparently Adam Jones has a lot of pain and was asking the Lions team doctor for extra medication. The doc refused to give it to him saying he would rather keep it for himself as he still had to spend another 24 hours in Pretoria….. as reported in Die Burger yesterday. :lol:

  • Comment 107, posted at 30.06.09 15:23:03 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 107) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 108, posted at 30.06.09 15:42:37 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 107) : Brilliant. :lol:

  • Comment 109, posted at 30.06.09 15:47:11 by klempie Reply

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  • Geech must be the most depressed and embarrassed coach in the rugby world today.

    He got beaten by a team with no coach, in which the players coach themselves.

    That must be hard to swallow.

    In fact, what the hell are the All Blacks doing with Henry?

    Super rugby history has proven they have far more depth and quality at senior pro level than SA – the players should just coach themselves and save NZRU a hell of a lot of money!

  • Comment 110, posted at 30.06.09 16:07:45 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 110) : amen!

  • Comment 111, posted at 30.06.09 16:17:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 111) : Hello Rob, welcome to your blog. We missed you. :twisted: :wink:

  • Comment 112, posted at 30.06.09 16:20:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 112) : Certainly did. :)

  • Comment 113, posted at 30.06.09 16:25:54 by klempie Reply

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  • Cheers all, enjoy the rest of your weekend

  • Comment 114, posted at 30.06.09 16:37:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 114) : well a man can dream can’t he :roll: :wink:

  • Comment 115, posted at 30.06.09 16:38:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 112) : thanks :)

  • Comment 116, posted at 30.06.09 17:38:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well said Morne. I love your work. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 117, posted at 30.06.09 20:32:30 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 117) :

    I am busy with an article just for this blog, because I reckon it is just about the only one that will appreciate my feelings on how I am sorely disappointed in the SA Rugby public and media after such an historic, and epic series win.

  • Comment 118, posted at 30.06.09 20:56:47 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 118) :
    Preach it brotha!

    I find myself reading more than posting nowadays, simply because I don’t want to slag people off all the time (thats not what SW is about), but I cant help but find it amazing and appalling to read what so many “fans” think.

    Maybe a good article will add some perspective.

  • Comment 119, posted at 30.06.09 22:32:10 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 118) : I might consider writing a Div-bashing one to counter it…. :lol:

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