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Jansen gets the boot


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 8 Jul 2009 at 09:38
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Well, it seems young Rocco Jansen didn’t do enough on Friday night to warrant a Sharks contract, so the young Bull is on his way back to Pretoria – leaving thinner than ever in the wing department.

The other somewhat worrying news (depending on your perspective) is that John Plumtree seems to have settled on playing conservative, ten-man rugby in the Currie Cup, since he feels the Sharks lack any game-breakers in the backline. Now we all saw how dismally the Sharks failed with a defensive approach in the Super 14 – and that was when we had our first-choice backline available.

Plum has been making noises about “attack being very difficult to coach”. Mate, it wouldn’t be if you actually hired a proper attack coach. Saying that it’s too difficult and that you’ll rather just focus on defence and hope for the best sounds a lot like throwing in the towel, to me. I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, but I must say, I was really expecting a bit more.

It appears that all of the Sharks returning Boks will be included in the team to face Province, with the possible exception of Ryan Kankowski, who’s nursing a few bumps and bruises. A further concerning development is that flyhalf-elect Guy Cronjé also seems to be battling for fitness. Let’s hope he pulls through, because I, for one, don’t know if I can stand watching another episode of the Dumond Show this season. I guess we’re going to see lots of Andries Strauss at outside centre too.

One silver lining is the fact that the rolling maul is very much back on the cards this season. This can only bode well for the Sharks – at least this weekend, while we still have some of our monster pack available. It’s going to get pretty tricky once the likes of Carstens, Muller and maybe even Sykes head back to the Bok camp.

Possible Sharks 22:

15 Stefan Terblanche, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Andries Strauss, 12 Riaan Swanepoel, 11 Luzuko Vulindlu, 10 Guy Cronjé, 9 Rory Kockott, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Jean Deysel, 6 Jacques Botes, 5 Johann Muller (capt), 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Skipper Badenhorst, 1 Deon Carstens
16 Craig Burden, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Albert van den Berg, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Monty Dumond, 22 Lwazi Mvovo



60 Comments

  • Gonna be a long day for me on Saturday…..luckily im used to it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.07.09 09:42:33 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 1) : Playing soccer :?:

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.07.09 09:48:36 by Charlie Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 1) : why, bra? I don’t see us beating you okes… At least you have some youngish talent in your backline and will be trying to play positive rugby. We’re going to spend all day booting the ball down your throats and tackling ourselves to a standstill.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.07.09 09:48:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Sharks forever…

    That team looks good enough to beat The Goats…

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.07.09 09:52:02 by blackshark Reply

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  • Would have start with Mvovo, Andries Strauss to bench, carthorse @ 13, won’t be effective, rather move Zuks to 13 :wink:

    Sharks needing a attack coach, I am availeable :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.07.09 09:52:19 by Charlie Reply

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  • its going to be a very informative weekend :razz:

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.07.09 09:56:31 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 5) : at the very least, move Strauss to 12… Swannie has some pace. I’m just concerned that if they’re approaching the game with a defensive mindset, they’ll pick a defensive centre combo.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.07.09 10:02:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 2) : :lol: nah man, at the game

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.07.09 10:04:08 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 5) : Agree with you, rather move Zuks to 13 and Mvovo to wing, in S14 Strauss knocked all the balls he got on :twisted:

    An Ozzie friend of mine directed me to this Ozzie site this is what I got : “A Puma about to make a mark on the Super 14
    French rugby union club, Stade Francais, will bid farewell to one of its best players in Argentine half, Juan Martin Hernandez.

    Although his majestic playing skills will be missed in the Northern Hemisphere, it’s about time for the Pumas’ leading player to ply his trade in a hemisphere where Argentine rugby will continue to grow into a recognised force.

    Hernandez has just finalised a one year deal to play with South African outfit the Natal Sharks in the Super 14 competition next season, bringing an end to his seven year association with Stade Francais.

    It was a successful period for Hernandez in France, winning the Top 14 competition in 2004 whilst also winning the Top 14 best fullback award during the 2006 season.

    Hernandez also led the side to the 2005 Heineken Cup final, where they lost to Toulouse.

    His time in Stade Francais allowed him to garner the necessary form that would later see him become one of the stars of the 2007 Rugby Union World Cup in France.

    Playing in the fullback position, Hernandez masterminded a superb third place finish for the Pumas, after losing to eventual champions, the Springboks, in the semi-finals.

    Due to his performances, it was no surprise to see Hernandez emerge as one of the top five nominees for the IRB player of the year award.

    Although the award went to South African winger Bryan Habana, Hernandez could still hold his head high, knowing he played an integral part in putting Argentine rugby on the map in 2007.

    Two years later and Hernandez is now prepared to take the next step forward not only for himself, but for los Pumas as well.

    His transfer to the Natal Sharks was sealed shortly before the rugby transfer window officially closed.

    Hernandez’s transfer has been met with sadness in France. In particular, the major French sporting website Le Figaro, who say his departure “is an immense loss for French Rugby.”

    But if Hernandez succeeds playing against arguably the finest players on a consistent basis in the Super 14, it will leave a small Pumas mark in the Southern Hemisphere that will hopefully continue to grow in the coming years”

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.07.09 10:04:10 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 9) :
    How old is this article?

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.07.09 10:09:45 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 9) : we’ve seen numerous other reports already indicating that he’s signed a contract. All of these have proved to be premature…

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.07.09 10:11:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 8) : Liar :twisted:

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.07.09 10:14:03 by Charlie Reply

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  • question for the faithful…. do you think, even if we had Hernandez, we might consider playing some more attractive rugby?

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.07.09 10:14:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : not with stefan at the back or rory. we need to get a promising youngster learning the ropes at 15.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.07.09 10:23:00 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 14) : Lambie?

    18 years old and not yet 90 kilos… Are we also turning into a hobbit factory?

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.07.09 10:26:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : and they say there are no roids in school rugby.

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.07.09 10:28:30 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : sorry i thought you said over 90kgs. still the size of some of the guys coming out of school you wonder.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.07.09 10:29:47 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 17) : oh hell yeah…

    What happened to the huge Kenyan wing we had on our books?

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.07.09 10:37:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : Lambie was very good for the Sharks last Friday BTW

    On the Hernandez note , according to Puma from the keo site , Hernandez trained with the Sharks yesterday ” he watched them train ”
    So something is on the brew

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.07.09 10:39:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Lambie has a massive boot , but i even told his dad i reckon he should bulk up a bit ,he not a big fella

    a bit bigger then brent russel

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.07.09 10:40:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Here is something from Keo

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    #28 grant10: #29 sharks_lover: This is from the French Newspaper “LeFigaro” translated by moi, as best I could, please excuse the translation it has been done on a straight translation basis ;)
    ” According to Olympic South of France, Juan Martin Hernandez got involved with the South African Franchise of the Natal Sharks. Wooed by several French clubs, the Argentinian stand-out half leaves the Stade Francaise.”

    The magic of Juan Martin Hernandez will no longer operate in France. Announced on departure, El Mago (the Magician) decided to pack up all his gear to go play in the Supert 14. According to our associates of Olympic South of France, the Argentinian opener would have come to an agreement in effect this night with the leaders of the Sharks on the basis of a contract of one year. A huge loss for the French rugby which sees the flying off of one of her biggest stars during last days of the window period for transfers.”

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.07.09 10:47:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : I agree with you, but maybe there is something to it. Why would Plum go public “we are hoping he will arrive by the end of this week” and out of desperation I searched for more and found an article in Le Figaro, which also states that Hernandez has signed with the Sharks and has departed for Durban. I am hoping in any case :neutral:

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.07.09 10:48:54 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan :
    ‘during last days of the window period for transfers.”’

    Care to explain yourself Rob? :wink:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.07.09 10:58:34 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 23) : it is clearly a French thing… there is no window at all in SA.

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.07.09 11:01:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : :mrgreen: I must have got it from that article

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.07.09 11:05:15 by Rahul Reply

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  • surely it wouldve been on sharksrugby by now

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.07.09 11:25:30 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 26) : exactly. The moment it’s official, I’ll know about it.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.07.09 11:52:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Will you add JMH to the FL list when he is official? And do we get a free transfer for that?

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.07.09 11:58:11 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 28) :

    YES

    NO.

    :grin:

    For that matter why not just add him now. :wink:

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.07.09 12:06:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : u guys suck :wink: robdylan told me the same thing yesterday :lol:

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.07.09 12:12:40 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : When did you do that? :shock:

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.07.09 12:14:32 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 28) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : I agree….we need a free transfer for Hernandez…..please

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.07.09 12:15:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : I dont want him, I just like winding ppl up :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.07.09 12:18:24 by Rahul Reply

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  • :evil: This is worse that the Xabi Alonso transfer saga… :evil:

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.07.09 12:19:33 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : where do u put him anyway, halfback, fullback or centre

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.07.09 12:20:52 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 35) :

    I have a feeling he’ll slot in at centre…

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.07.09 12:23:22 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 36) : he might play in all 3 possitions, im wondering about FL possition

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.07.09 12:25:50 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 19) : he talks shit. I have had it confirmed from within the squad that Hernandez was definitely not at practice yesterday.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.07.09 12:26:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : no free transfers. His name is there now, so pick him if you want him.

    But there will also be no free transfer OUT if it turns out he doesn’t come after all

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.07.09 12:28:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 33) : I want him :evil:

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.07.09 12:28:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : Don’t let me do an IRB on your ass :twisted: :wink:

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.07.09 12:31:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) :
    @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) :

    You okes are tough!

    The customer is always right :wink:

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.07.09 12:32:13 by Rahul Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : Where are the rules for FL? I cant find them…

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.07.09 12:36:11 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 43) : never mind – found it :oops:

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.07.09 12:36:58 by Rahul Reply

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  • Maybe this is a good time for me to select my squad.
    Cheers… I’m off to justrugby…

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.07.09 12:37:00 by blackshark Reply

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  • imo FL is easier during S14, there no such thing as Boks joining the squad later in the competion :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.07.09 12:41:08 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • imo FL is easier during S14, theres no such thing as Boks joining the squad later in the competition :twisted:

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.07.09 12:41:44 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 47) : that’s kind of why you get to pick a squad of 30

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.07.09 12:42:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 34) :

    Alonso ain’t going nowhere. Madrid wants to pay in the region of 20 million quid and Rafa wants nothing less than 35 mil :???:

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.07.09 12:43:04 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : i want 40+ :grin:

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.07.09 12:45:40 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 42) :

    PAYING customers MAYBE. :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.07.09 12:46:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 43) :

    Look under “About FL”

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.07.09 12:47:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 35) :

    Don’t worry we have made that decision for you. :wink:

    He is a halfback.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.07.09 12:50:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 51) : :lol:
    @KSA Shark © (Comment 51) : :oops:

    Must I e-mail my new pic to you… cant get it working?!?

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.07.09 12:55:02 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 54) :

    Send it through.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.07.09 12:59:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 55) : the BOSS is back! :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.07.09 13:06:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) : :smile:

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.07.09 13:19:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 26) : @robdylan (Comment 27) : WHich brings me to another point Surely Sharks Rugby should have the announcement for Saturday by now :twisted: All the other teams have anounced theirs!!!!

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.07.09 14:53:22 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 58) : and that should be Team announcement :oops:

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 59) : good point

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