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Toothless raggies flounder at Newlands


Written by Nick Gordon (The Great Couch Shark)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 11 Jul 2009 at 22:14
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The Currie Cup Champs played their first game of 2009 without 10 front-line players and it showed. John Plumtree’s second stringers were comprehensively beaten 29-15.

If this a sign of things to come, Sharks fans are in for a long season. The Durban outfit showed neither the skill, nor the grunt to overcome a game Western Province team at Newlands on Saturday. Even with ten Springboks away, the Sharks were expected to win or at least dominate in the scrums. Given the torrid conditions, the plan would surely have been to kick for territory and maul it up close. But it was Province who played the percentages better and showed greater respect for the atrocious weather. Their second try was a classic example. Instead clearing from the base of a scrum in their half, the Sharks elected to run. Jean Deysel fell awkwardly and a turned-over ball saw Sireli Naqelevuki run in for an easy score.

The game got off to the worst possible start with Chris Jack charging down Rory Kockett’s attempted clearance and scoring in the corner – a mere 20 seconds into the game. Kockett obviously felt that the kicking responsibilities were his, given the rookie outside him; but it was madness to try and clear under such pressure, especially with the 2 metre Jack looming. Kockett then made amends by knocking over a handful of penalties and for a while the Sharks seemed to be back in it. The rain pounded down relentlessly, nullifying each team’s chances. But as soon as Province got out of first gear and started stringing some promising runs together they looked streets ahead of their toothless counterparts.

The battle of the flyhalves was always going to be won by Willem De Waal. The wily Province flyhalf is made for games like these, so it was expected that the Sharks would try dominate upfront.
Instead the much-vaunted pack were pushed off their ball on numerous occasions, lost a heel against the head and were completely dominated at the rucks and mauls. The fact that the referee was especially liberal towards Province at ruck time does not excuse the shocking protection the Sharks gave their ball carrier. Once Western Province gained ascendancy at the rucks the game was effectively over as a contest.

As for our scrum, I have to ask: Has it really got to the point when we are forced to field three featherweights all at the same time? The trio of Daniel, Botes and Burden left us more than a little underpowered at the set pieces despite the Sharks being renowned for the better tight five. The Craig Burden experiment, in particular, has yet to convince me. The ex-winger tries manfully but brings no physical authority in the tight and doesn’t redeem himself enough in the loose to warrant a starting berth. As dour a player as Skipper Badenhorst is, he probably would have been a safer bet to start with.

I will resist at this stage the urge to slate our backline because truth be told, they were never really in the game. Young débutante Guy Cronje was thrown in the deep-end and attempted a few runs but was easily overpowered at the tackle point conceding possession nearly every time. It’s worth backing the rookie though because all our other alternatives at 10 are frankly rubbish. But it certainly won’t hurt the youngster to start consuming copious amounts of steak and creatine either. Another player I wouldn’t mind seeing get more time is Zuks Vulindlu. The lively winger always looks a few millimetres away from doing something brilliant so it’s impossible to tell if he’s actually any good or not. I suspect he doesn’t have the intuitive genius of JP Pietersen or the support play of Odwa Ndungane but still, the poor oke deserves some time with the ball.

All in all, John Plumtree’s men have lots of work to do. It’s clear that the scrum in particular will need to improve in leaps in bounds if the team has any chance of being a force in the Currie Cup.
Being the first game, it’s best to remain open-minded about our chances. Still, the performance dished up on Saturday was a worry for any supporter.



118 Comments

  • Our front row took a hammering…could this WP team finally have a tight five to boast about?

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.07.09 22:16:15 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 1) : found myself wondering that too. Good piece, but I disagree about Burden. Thought he was good. Otherwise, spot on

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.07.09 22:29:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • The fact that the referee was especially liberal towards Province at ruck time

    :shock: Really?

    He was so liberal he didn’t give the Sharks one yellow card despite them giving away a penalty just about every time Province were on attack in their 22. :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.07.09 22:39:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • I’m aware of the Daniel YC, but that was for a different offence.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.07.09 22:43:03 by McLovin Reply

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  • im 1st on SB, My 10 point strategy worked :razz:

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.07.09 23:51:56 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • The pedantic referee was horrible, not biased just horrible, never allowed either team to establish any continuity, he turned the contest into a horrible one for the spectators. I’m afraid little Jackie Paper Puffed too much of the Magic Dragon.

    As for Burden, if you must continue to try him as a hooker, realize his is always going to be a good impact player and no more. Like Schalk Brits, he is best brought on with 20 minutes remaining when his skills around the field are best utilized. The pack looked so much better in scrums and rucks and mauls once Skipper came on, and his throws are not any worse than Burden’s. The starting front row must be Jannie Skipper and Deon. I was not impressed with Jannie scrumming at all, he could not even best the very suspect JD Moller when he came on. Deon monstered Harris in a few of the scrums, and popped the TH at least 4 times in the match. Deon was able to get his left shoulder into Harris’ ribs. My criticism of Botes remains, he gets to the breakdown, but does nothing there. Great anticipation and quickness around the field, but then gets to the breakdown first, and never turns the ball over.

    Just something about the kicking in wet weather thing. I had a coach once that said to use the boot to establish territory in the wet weather, but once in an attacking position, run at the opposition, with every player who receives the ball running at a different angle. It is much harder for the opposition to respond in the wet conditions to players receiving the ball on an different angled run. I saw very little of this kind of running from either team in the wet weather and just wonder why, it was very effective when I saw it done.

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.07.09 00:51:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) : Some good points Dancing Bear. You saw how when Province started running the ball they looked dangerous. It goes without saying that come rain, sleet or snow, a team should always try and run it a bit. The problem was we were trying to run it from 70 metres out most of the time because our kicking game was not getting us into their half. That’s never going to work in the rain…

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.07.09 08:50:06 by CapeShark Reply
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  • i thought sharks could swim?

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.07.09 09:08:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Johann Muller’s arm is broken

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.07.09 09:31:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) :

    I’d like to know where the TOP SA ref’s were for this game.

    Peyper has reffed ONE S14 game in his entire career and that was in the last round of the S14 if I recall correctly.

    No problem with him reffing a Boland v Leopards game or a Sharks v Leopards game but to ref two of the top teams you need a top ref.

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.07.09 10:50:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 5) :

    Hehehhehe

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.07.09 11:01:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I feel this article is factually invorrect in several places – most notably….

    “Jean Deysel fell awkwardly and a turned-over ball saw Sireli Naqelevuki run in for an easy score.”

    Should read when Loooooooook made Jean his bitch and coughed up the ball Wp rolled in for a glorious score

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.07.09 11:32:06 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.07.09 11:39:47 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Do you know that the first raggie to hatch in the uterus eats all of its brothers and sisters? :cool:

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.07.09 11:49:58 by klempie Reply

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  • Still, the performance dished up on Saturday was a worry for any supporter.

    Not Rob. He’s an insufferable optimist. :roll:

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.07.09 11:53:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) :

    Well I actually disagree with both of you.

    You call it pedantic and I call it a ref that blows in accordance with the laws and leaves little for interpretation.

    Yes he perhaps could have allowed play to continue in one or two tackled situations but given the conditions I have no problem with it.

    As for the article, good piece there.

    I am far from convinced on WP. I think we all missed that WP fielded kickers in 10 and 12 and Ricky was also an option with the boot, this means WP could vary their play using different kickers where the Sharks were predictable.

    Kockett was always going to make a lot of kicks, WP simply packed the fringes of rucks and put him under huge pressure.

    As for Kockett, I am starting to believe more and more you are playing a gifted 10 at 9 – Rob mentioned this once and Rory is not playing a classic 9 role in the team, he is trying to dictate from the base and as a variance this will work but he does this (or plays) as a 10 would approach the game.

    I still rate Rory, I think he is very talented and if you ask me, given your back up at 10, I would seriously look to convert this fella.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.07.09 12:09:25 by Morné Reply
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  • Oh and on WP’s tight 5 or front row and scrums…

    I am beginning to believe more and more that a great front row, only is great taking into regard who packs down behind them – the locks…

    WP for the first time in a very long time fielded hard, uncompromising locks. The difference both at rucks, line-outs and specifically scrums came there.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.07.09 12:12:36 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 16) : Like your thinking re the Rocket. The problem is when Frans and Ruan return from the Boks. We already had major headaches with issues with 9 and 10 with Ruan and Frans. Throwing Kockott into the mix will be difficult and then there is Hernandez (hopefully).

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.07.09 12:18:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : been on about that one for years, I have :-)

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.07.09 12:21:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Morning all or should that be Mourning!!!
    having watched the game a second time i dont think its doom and gloom and i’m not being one eyed.First it looked like Jannie needed some game time Burden didn’t come with the run on role and looks better to play the sub with 20 mins to go not that i am a skipper fan either. the loose trio doesn’t work like that and it might mean either keegan or Botes with a more beefy number 8 not sure who though Rob will know The centres combernation doesnt work either happy to see strauss @ inside and waylon outside. is it only me or are we back in the trap of crashball inside pass and we are going across the field again
    Sorry to hear about Joe 3 months is what I hear! New captain as well as a new lock So assuming we get to keep the boks it might look like this
    15 Oupa 14 Odwa 11 Vuks 13 Waylon 12 Straus 10 Cronje 9 Rory 8 the Hoff 6 Either one 7 Jean 4 Sykes 5 bert 3 Jannie 2 Skipper 1 Deon
    captain is the hard one Maybe Sykes but most likley Keegan

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.07.09 12:35:15 by Fattmann Reply
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  • By the way thought ref was ok but needs to swallow the whistle a bit he will get better though

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.07.09 12:36:54 by Fattmann Reply
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  • if JMH arrives he would play 12

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.07.09 12:41:00 by Fattmann Reply
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  • Gents you lost an away game.

    It is hardly a train smash.

    Plum acknowledge their shortcomings, depth which is one of them, and he mentioned recruitment is starting.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.07.09 12:41:22 by Morné Reply
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  • hey guys .new on the blog , huge sharks fan. what the hell are we going to do with regards to johan muller’s injury. do we have any locks or is albert van der berg going to have too start a game for once.(isnt that keegan 4th yellow card of the season?)starting to cost us!

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.07.09 12:42:01 by roger1 Reply

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  • not sure what we will do there they let Snyman go so not sure maybe buy someone like Rawlinson? May well be Bert from the mountains year

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.07.09 12:48:47 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @roger1 (Comment 24) : Welcome bru.

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.07.09 12:49:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 23) : What’s worrying is Plum paid no attention to our last S14 performance. He’s gone back to the style that cost us a semi berth.

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.07.09 12:50:22 by klempie Reply

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  • Maybe they should chage Keegans name to Costas!

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.07.09 12:51:12 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @klempie (comment 27) do you mean bash the ball up ball comes back from the Ruck to the F/h inside pass back to the ruck etc etc etc

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.07.09 12:53:15 by Fattmann Reply
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  • looks like Ausie are going to go 1 up in the Ashes

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.07.09 12:54:09 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 29) : No. I mean ST gets the ball and boots it all the way to their 22 and everyone waits for them to run it back at us.

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.07.09 12:56:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @Fattmann (Comment 30) : Don’t be such a pessimist… :razz:

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.07.09 12:56:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @Klempie (Comment 31) that is also a problem much rather kick for touch and restart
    The bash tactic and the up and under are very much overdone and its time for something new. Glad im not Plum though
    time for lunch its still cold and raining Damm

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.07.09 13:01:14 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @roger1 (Comment 24) : welcome to the site! Where are you from and how did you find us?

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.07.09 13:09:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • from ladysmith, google!

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.07.09 13:30:54 by roger1 Reply

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  • @roger1 (Comment 35) : nice. I lived in Dundee as a youngster. Glad google is still working out

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.07.09 14:15:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Och aaaayyyyeee! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.07.09 15:43:10 by klempie Reply

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  • My FL sucked, i thought u only get points for the players in your starting 15, so ive made alot of trades and hopefully it will get better now

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.07.09 19:18:50 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • England are 6 runs ahead with 5 overs left in the day with one wicket in hand. Come on England!

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.07.09 19:25:36 by klempie Reply

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  • England need to survive until 18:40…that’s ten mins away.

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.07.09 19:30:43 by klempie Reply

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  • Panesar is practically getting a standing ovation for every ball he survives. LOL

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.07.09 19:32:13 by klempie Reply

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  • Poms trying delaying tactics now. 12th man with the gloves and the physio on. Punter spitting. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.07.09 19:35:53 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 40) : will like England to win but frankly i dont care :smile:

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.07.09 19:36:43 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • 3 minutes to survive.

  • Comment 44, posted at 12.07.09 19:37:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 43) : Nah they’re fighting for a draw. Drawn series is the best result cos Aussies will lose top spot to us and we don’t have to make a choice as to who we’d least like to win. :twisted:

    1 minute to survive.

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.07.09 19:39:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 45) : ok, so how many tests have they played thus far

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.07.09 19:42:27 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • Punter grumping a la SA in Australia 08/09. :mrgreen:

    Panesar and Anderson save England with a 65 ball partnership. WOOHOO!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.07.09 19:44:47 by klempie Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 46) : 1 now out of 5.

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.07.09 19:45:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 48) : and u are already hoping for a draw :lol: or a win

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.07.09 19:47:32 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 49) : Just the draw. Poms are insufferable when they win.

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.07.09 19:56:54 by klempie Reply

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  • Punter unusually magnanimous in “defeat”.

  • Comment 51, posted at 12.07.09 20:00:20 by klempie Reply

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  • Yes, Yes, Yes you lot of Guppies! :razz:

    Pity SWD is not playing in the Premier Division.

    Thought we could take you bunch this year…. :grin:

    Watch the Craven Week as from tomorrow. Lots of SWD boykies being stolen again…

  • Comment 52, posted at 12.07.09 21:45:31 by Kandas Reply

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  • @Kandas (Comment 52) : blah blah blah :roll: :grin:

  • Comment 53, posted at 12.07.09 21:58:58 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @Kandas (Comment 52) : where’ve you been hiding, dude? :-)

  • Comment 54, posted at 12.07.09 22:00:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) :

    Protecting the SWD from Cheeky invasions…

    @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 53) :

    Glad you feel the same… :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 12.07.09 22:03:53 by Kandas Reply

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  • Team P W L D Pts
    GWK Griquas 1 1 0 0 5
    Vodacom Western Province 1 1 0 0 4
    Boland 1 1 0 0 4
    Vodacom Blue Bulls 1 1 0 0 4
    Xerox Lions 1 0 1 0 1
    Platinum Leopards 1 0 1 0 0
    Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 1 0 1 0 0
    Sharks 1 0 1 0 0

    Damn, who would have thought, hey!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 12.07.09 22:12:35 by Kandas Reply

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  • @Kandas (Comment 55) : so you’ve succeeded? Well done. How’s Gaffie?

  • Comment 57, posted at 12.07.09 22:12:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Kandas (Comment 56) : after 1 round. How many Boks have Griquas lost anyway?

  • Comment 58, posted at 12.07.09 22:15:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) :

    Gaffie. No idea. Think he’s still the bliksem in with Nic Mallet though.

    Ag, ja, the guppies will be there and abouts. No need to write them off now. Yet. Not yet. It’s just that I’m scared their Free State Feeder Source is drying up.

    But I’m sure they will survive.

    The English have always been known for their tenacity.

    :roll:

  • Comment 59, posted at 12.07.09 22:22:16 by Kandas Reply

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  • @Kandas (Comment 59) : we have so few English guys in the team anyway. Your lot sure are prolific :-) looking at this with a sober eye, I don’t see us keeping the cup this year. I just hope there’s a plan of some sort. I have yet to see any evidence of it, though

  • Comment 60, posted at 12.07.09 22:29:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ag, a Boer or three from Bethlehem in the Free State, a Shangaan from Zimbabwe, a Xhosa or three from East London and Port Elizabeth, a Zulu from Ulundi, a Soutie or two from Maritzburg… who are we to complain? The Sharks will always have this Afro-Indian Cosmopolitan feel about them…

    But, ja, like the great man himself, Pieter de Villiers, would say, I also don’t see the plan getting together this year.

    As a matter of fact, looking at my foolproof Cycle of Great Rugby Union Performances (CGRUP) or CYRUP by those in the know, maybe in 2025 again. Hopefully.

    A strong Sharks side have always ignited the B-Competition of the Currie Cup. And good so for them. One always have to value the contributions by the lesser partners.

    At least you can always count on my support through these trying times.

  • Comment 61, posted at 12.07.09 23:53:52 by Kandas Reply

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  • @Kandas (Comment 61) : with friends like you :-)

  • Comment 62, posted at 13.07.09 07:21:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • no comment.

  • Comment 63, posted at 13.07.09 08:34:07 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • Willem de Waal was always going to dominate in those conditions. Poor old Guy…not the type of game or conditions to try and establish yourself as a CC flyhalf…..and apart from his goalkicking I thought Rory had a shocker.

  • Comment 64, posted at 13.07.09 08:41:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • He just don’t have enough experience in the backline…and Oupa is too far from the action. Hernadez please come.

    @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 63) : Those boobs are looking a lot more droopy this morning :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 13.07.09 08:54:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • This result was not entirely unexpected considering who was not playing for the Sharks, that this Province side is very close to the Stormers side that successfully closed out the Super 14, the terrible conditions, and Willem de Waal who thrives in these conditions. It was only in the 10 minutes that Daniel was in the bin that Province managed to pull away and started getting scrum ascendancy.

    The Sharks were always going to battle regardless of the weather, just more so in the wet. I always had Province winning this game, well that is until the Sharks got a few Boks back and McLovin informed the world that a slight breeze and no rain was predicted :twisted: , which influenced me in predicting a Sharks win on SB.

    Why is it easy make SB picks with you head when your team isnt involved but as soon as your team is in the picture your heart take over. Sharks cost me a SB bonus point.

  • Comment 66, posted at 13.07.09 08:56:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 65) :
    re the boobs, I also noticed that, weird.

  • Comment 67, posted at 13.07.09 08:58:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 65) : not as droopy as the sharks performance.

  • Comment 68, posted at 13.07.09 09:00:23 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • ok one comment. johann muller’s injury means we get to see just how good a captain he is. personally i think his captaincy is his weak point.

  • Comment 69, posted at 13.07.09 09:06:01 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • IMO only 2 teams came out of this weekend with their heads held high…..the Griquas and WP( OK I didn’t see the Boland Leopards game)

  • Comment 70, posted at 13.07.09 09:09:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Missed the game – not much too say.

    Tough news there about Johan Muller – he leaves a huge gap…

    Other than that – let’s see what happens in the next game…

  • Comment 71, posted at 13.07.09 09:10:53 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 71) : much of the same i am afraid. sharks will end 5th this year.

  • Comment 72, posted at 13.07.09 09:18:38 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Kandas (Comment 61) :

    Ag, a Boer or three from Bethlehem in the Free State, a Shangaan from Zimbabwe, a Xhosa or three from East London and Port Elizabeth, a Zulu from Ulundi, a Soutie or two from Maritzburg… who are we to complain? The Sharks will always have this Afro-Indian Cosmopolitan feel about them…,

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I like this dude. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 73, posted at 13.07.09 09:24:08 by klempie Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 72) :

    I’m looking at making the semi’s…then we’ll take it from there…
    But even that will require us to step up and play our socks off.

    The guys with Super 14 experience will have to keep the team together
    somehow. Losing to a strong WP team at a wet Newlands is nothing to be ashamed of – I’m cool.

  • Comment 74, posted at 13.07.09 09:57:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 74) : the thing to keep perspective about was that WP really did play a very good game under the conditions. Just because we’re the current champions doesn’t give us an immediate right to rock up and expect to win every game.

    The competition seems quite evenly-matched this year, with most of the teams looking equally weak. Province could in fact, do very well this year as they have most of their Super 14 team and have bought wisely.

  • Comment 75, posted at 13.07.09 10:02:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : Bulls are way ahead of everyone else. I don’t take much from the game against the Lions.

  • Comment 76, posted at 13.07.09 10:09:22 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : based on what evidence?

  • Comment 77, posted at 13.07.09 10:16:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) : Based on the manner in which they managed to come back from 13-0 down to win.

  • Comment 78, posted at 13.07.09 10:24:49 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) :
    Based on the design on his Blue Bulls pyjamas… :roll:

  • Comment 79, posted at 13.07.09 10:25:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 79) : it’s what I figured :)

  • Comment 80, posted at 13.07.09 11:07:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 79) : @robdylan (Comment 80) : What have I done to deserve this ridicule? :razz:

  • Comment 81, posted at 13.07.09 11:10:38 by klempie Reply

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  • Great wins by both Boland & WeePee.

    Think WP youngsters sure show some talent in this match. Regarding the Springboks in and out, I wish Plumtree can take Januarie, we had one to many. Playing in this weather need a scrummy with a good service and I knew the moment when Duvenhage step in , it would make it game, set and match for the Sharks. Cocky never impressed me in pissing weather and saturday was not different. I admire the young Cronje making his debut in this one and is sure he have what it takes to make a more then usefull 10. He learned some valuable lessons on saturday. Also impressed by our two flanker Pieters. They were waiting now for way to long for their change and thought Myburgh sure the one to do the hard yards. Our tight five fatties were good and I sure enjoyed them in the BIL match and the last part of the S14. Energize Bunny is one hell of a impact player. That Fourietjie has it all. Willem sure now showed he is the best in rainy weather and took both his changes against the BIL matches and this one.

    Anyway a highly satisfied win we as WeePee supporters was waiting a long time and no need to look back but forward. The Brutes in the Ring always difficult, add the Luke Watson hype and its going to be one hell of a high mountain to climb.

  • Comment 82, posted at 13.07.09 11:18:36 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 82) : just remember you haven’t won the Cup yet :)

    Go Province. Nail those brutes.

  • Comment 83, posted at 13.07.09 11:23:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Oh and congrats to our U21s winning 14-0. I havent watch the game but I know on paper they are a strong outfit. Watch the Brutes vs Lions U21s on TV.

  • Comment 84, posted at 13.07.09 11:23:37 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 83) :
    Ja sure one game at a time. PB know that all to well.

  • Comment 85, posted at 13.07.09 11:25:00 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 84) : disappointed our kids didn’t do better… A lot of them are still under 19, though, so a reasonably young side. Still, we’re grooming a decent pack there, just have to let them develop.

    I guess they aren’t that good at swimming.

  • Comment 86, posted at 13.07.09 11:34:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 84) : BTW – I believe you would know (of) Lambert Smith and Meyer Swanepoel. Any idea how they played on Saturday?

  • Comment 87, posted at 13.07.09 11:36:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • Talking about swimming. Our kiddies rugby against the Cape Town lot has been cancelled 4 weekends in a row. Thats one I am worried about, these days they the ma’s is way to worried their kids catching a cold, in my days it was the only way we had a decend shower, playing in the rain.

    Sorry Rob dont know that names?

  • Comment 88, posted at 13.07.09 11:42:01 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 78) : You realise that the lions got a player red carded I think in the first half.

  • Comment 89, posted at 13.07.09 11:44:13 by molly Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 88) : ok – they’re both Boland schoolboys, one from Paul Roos, the other Paarl Gim…. would’ve thought you’d now them.

    @molly (Comment 89) : that was in the under 21 game, Molls…

  • Comment 90, posted at 13.07.09 11:50:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : Sorry Rob, for which teams did they play on saturday. I know the Brutes U21 TH fattie is Rossouw de Klerk, Him I know very well but the host of Paarl Gym boys is now playing for WeePee U21 and will be playing U19.

  • Comment 91, posted at 13.07.09 12:17:35 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : Dammit… all my rugby watching is a blur :oops:
    Still… the lions came out to defend in the 2nd when they should’ve shut out the Bulls.

  • Comment 92, posted at 13.07.09 12:23:56 by molly Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 91) : they both played for the Sharks under 21s. Meyer Swanepoel played 8 and Lambert Groenwald was a utility loose forward/three quarter reserve.

    BTW, is there ANY rugby blog of forum anywhere in the world that you’re not a member of? :)

  • Comment 93, posted at 13.07.09 12:24:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 92) : correct. The Sharks tried the same thing, except they weren’t ahead at the time.

    Kinda dumb…

  • Comment 94, posted at 13.07.09 12:25:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : I missed the game, stoopid friends and their birthdays and picking places with no tv’s. Honestly!
    But I think I can say you guys don’t give WP enough credit :twisted:

  • Comment 95, posted at 13.07.09 12:45:17 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 95) : we’re kinda one-eyed…

    Still waiting for somebody to volunteer a match report from the WP perspective…

  • Comment 96, posted at 13.07.09 13:06:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 95) : Province played well. Impressed with Jack :cool: Seems like a smooth dude as well.

  • Comment 97, posted at 13.07.09 13:41:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 96) :

    Claytie?? :???:

  • Comment 98, posted at 13.07.09 13:50:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 95) :
    You are right Molly, WP were very good but as a Sharks supporter Im not down and out like many others, that will probably come in a week or 2.

  • Comment 99, posted at 13.07.09 14:16:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 84) : @robdylan (Comment 87) :
    I caught lots of the U21 game. Sharks totally dominated but could not breach the defences. A very good pack, WP battled in the scrums. Conditions were horrible.

  • Comment 100, posted at 13.07.09 14:20:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 99) : week 3 – after the Bulls game :(

    @Salmonoid (Comment 100) : really? That makes me feel a lot better. I like the look of that under 21 pack on paper. I believe the number 7 flank (Mdaka) concussed himself by running into Marais’ knee

  • Comment 101, posted at 13.07.09 14:33:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 93) : You sure wont find me at the popular ones, Keo and PR. :wink:

    I find Walter here and enjoy posting with them in Afrikaans, bit of Kiwi & Aussie.

    Oh I wasnt on Newlands to watch the U21s, just saw the scores.

    By the way I see WeePee just crunch EP at the Craven Week 49-15. :cool: Mooi.

  • Comment 102, posted at 13.07.09 15:11:54 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 102) : I’m afraid to ask how KZN are doing…

  • Comment 103, posted at 13.07.09 15:23:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Boobs again! :grin: yay

  • Comment 104, posted at 13.07.09 16:07:51 by klempie Reply

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  • And again!

  • Comment 105, posted at 13.07.09 16:20:04 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 103) : They’ll play tomorrow.
    Day 1 scores
    Day 1 results
    SWD 6 – 34 Lions
    EP 15 – 49 WP
    Griquas 31 – 22 Pumas
    Namibia 11 – 13 Griquas CD

  • Comment 106, posted at 13.07.09 16:51:15 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 106) : SWD got klapped? Where’s Kandas?

    Let’s go over to http://www.swdworld.co.za and post some abuse :mrgreen:

  • Comment 107, posted at 13.07.09 16:59:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • afternoon.

    what a cheerful article :mrgreen:
    didn’t watch a game- but it looks the sharks are starting where they left at S14 :???:

  • Comment 108, posted at 13.07.09 17:53:05 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 108) : oh THERE you are! Where’ve you been? :)

  • Comment 109, posted at 13.07.09 18:34:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Man, being a sharks fan is depressing these days, after the currie cup last year, im very disappointed with that performance on saturday night, all of the guys have to pull their socks up

  • Comment 110, posted at 13.07.09 18:42:54 by war1 Reply
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  • But at the same time, the team have my full support, no matter how they make it for us ;)

  • Comment 111, posted at 13.07.09 18:44:04 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 111) : that’s the spirit, my man!

  • Comment 112, posted at 13.07.09 18:50:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • really cant be too hard on the boys – a team with TEN first choice players out, playing against virtually a S14 team with an All Black …..Honestly, WP should have scored more than they did. First game of the season, the boys will bounce back.

    That ref needed to choke on his whistle…he was doing hand signals that I have never seen before. I think he resurrected long forgotten rules. :roll: :roll:

  • Comment 113, posted at 13.07.09 19:04:39 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 113) : yeah ref was almost as frustrating as the sharks, hope the guys bounce back and take it out on boland this friday

  • Comment 114, posted at 13.07.09 19:09:47 by war1 Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 113) : i felt that way too. That one about the team catching the kick getting the scrum is one I haven’t seen in years!

  • Comment 115, posted at 13.07.09 19:10:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • And now for the Bulls. :shock:

  • Comment 116, posted at 13.07.09 19:47:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : holidaying :smile: .
    and in case the first day back at work is not horrid enough :mrgreen:

  • Comment 117, posted at 13.07.09 20:12:50 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 107) :

    Ag, Robbie, it was with sincere sadness that I learnt about that SWD – Lions result today. But then, on the other hand, we just can’t keep winning the Craven week year in and year out. Just not healthy for Schoolboy rugby and I also learnt that the Big Indoenas at the “Elite” Rugby schools like Grey Bloem, Paarl Gim, Paul Roos, Affies and some also runs from KZN were getting pretty cheesed off with our laaities here from the Southern Cape klapping their highly paid windgat laaities every year. So maybe it’s a good thing we will probably not win it this year…

    I also heard through the grapevine (with the cold and rain here it’s more like Old Brown Sherry) that the SWD boykies decided this year they are going to bluff the scouting agents and not play to their abilities… :smile:

    It still hurts though. I know now how the Sharks must feel most of the time…

    I see SWD almost won the Grant Kgomo under 16 week (again) last week. Makes up for the tragic loss today of the under 18′s.

  • Comment 118, posted at 13.07.09 22:05:00 by Kandas Reply

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