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Where are the detractors now?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 3 Aug 2009 at 10:37
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I’m looking furiously all over the internet today for any signs of the legion of SA rugby scribes who, just a few short weeks ago, took delight in devoting so many column inches to just exactly how out of his depth Peter de Villiers was as Springbok coach. Has anyone seen any of them?

It seems now that de Villiers has, yet again, done something which no other SA coach since readmission has managed to do, in beating the All Blacks in successive tests, the rabble has gone strangely quiet. Licking their wounds, perhaps? Or meeting in secret, plotting and planning the next assault. Perhaps they’ll cook up yet another “sex tape” scandal… or will it be more serious this time?

Let’s just have a look, shall we? First Bok coach (ever) to record a victory over the All Blacks at Carisbrook? Check. Beating England by a record margin at Twickenham? Check. First Bok coach to win a series against the Lions in 19 years? Check. And then the back-to-back victories over the All Blacks… it just gets better.

What to me was even more satisfying, though, was that de Villiers’ Boks used Jake White’s own game plan on Saturday, yet the much maligned coach got the team to execute it far better than they had ever done in the White era! The addition of a superb fetcher in Heinrich Brüssow has added another dimension to the pressure game that White sought to perfect – a trick that he missed for so many years. The Boks simply did it perfectly. Launched the bombs, chased the kicks, applied the pressure and waited for the All Blacks to implode. And they did. Spectacularly. Messily. All over the field.

It was the right game to play against this opposition and in these conditions. Will the Boks be smart enough to realise, though, that the attacking game is still very much an option – in fact, a necessity – and needs to be part of the arsenal. Saturday’s game was a perfect execution of the Boks’ “wet weather game”. In Australia, there’ll be at least two opportunities to show that the “dry weather game” is just as effective. The real challenge for the coaching staff is to ensure that the right players are kept in the system to allow them to execute either, as appropriate.

Well done, Peter de Villiers! You’re shutting them up, all right.



590 Comments

  • PDV’s THE MAN !!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.08.09 10:41:08 by Charlie Reply
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  • I have made a rule that I will never ever utter the words “I told you so”…

    It is boring.

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.08.09 10:42:23 by Morné Reply
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  • Indeed. I am surprised Rich hasn’t penned 1000 words on what a good coach Jon Smit is yet….

    But the media appear to be suggesting that this is a bad AB’s side – which is strange considering the only realy change is at 10

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.08.09 10:47:12 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) :
    You cant tell us that son – we were saying the same thing.

    Maybe a visit to keo and staaldraadworld is in order? :twisted:

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.08.09 10:48:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) : I have a rule that I don’t smoke again, but when the situation calls for it…

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.08.09 10:54:00 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) :

    Of course, I am agreeing with Rob here.

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.08.09 10:57:29 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) :
    I was kidding Morne. :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.08.09 11:00:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • which coach wouldn’t look good with this squad? what extra dimensions has p div really added onto the 2007 boks. he is lucky injuries have forced his hand at the right times. adi’s and ruan’s as well as schalk ban have forced div to make the right decisions. or though ruans to the lesser extent.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.08.09 11:02:38 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : as all wise people should, at all times :)

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.08.09 11:05:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well done PdV…What I think PdV has proved that he is adaptable and that the same(expansive) gameplan doesn’t always work. Well done for playing to our strenghs and not just wanting to play ‘pretty’ running rugby. I concede…I was one of the PdV detractors and I stand corrected :oops:

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.08.09 11:06:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • but credit where credits due, a coach still has to keep the morale up. although smit does this for the team, p div keeps government detractors off the boks backs.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.08.09 11:10:33 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : then this would be a boring site. :wink:

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.08.09 11:11:26 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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    Just like Markgraaf did when he inherited a world cup winning side in 96?
    Or like Carel Dup did?
    Yes PDV inherited a great team BUT he added players like Brussow, Steyn, Beast, Adi and moved Smit to tighthead.
    Jake would never have done that!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.08.09 11:13:24 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 11) : do that again and I will ban you.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.08.09 11:14:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • Sorry I am still a detractor, and so where a lot of you, I am still not convinced that PDV is calling all the shots, he is backed by two very able assistants and one of the most talented teams ever to don the green and gold, and earlier in the season he nearly cocked it up now suddenly everything is forgotten, this guy nearly cost us the series against the Lions due to his short comings. I do not think he is a bad coach, but just not up to scratch to coach the Boks and say what you like, he is being given a huge helping hand by a bunch of guys who know what they are about. Brussouw was not found by PDV, Smit had to move sideways to make way for Bismark, that was happening before PDV. I think PDV is a lucky man to have inherited the side and talent he did!! But good luck to him as History will show him to have been the successful coach against the Lions and All Blacks in 2009!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.08.09 11:24:32 by Whindy Reply
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  • To be fair Rob the gameplan empliyed has changed remarkably over the last few months.

    Well done PdV, NM and GG. Especially on the defence.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.08.09 11:25:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : noted.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.08.09 11:27:01 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 13) : he never added brussow, schalk’s stupidity opened the door for brussow. markgraaff inherited a team of leftovers from the rwc.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.08.09 11:29:21 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 17) : thanks. Let’s move swiftly along.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.08.09 11:29:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 18) : Markgraaf inhertied a pretty shit team, that’s for sure.

    Japie Mulder? Hannes Strydom? Rudolf Straueli? Hardly among the greatest players to have ever donned the green and gold!

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.08.09 11:31:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • Big difference between the two packs on Saturday was Bismarck.
    My goodness the boy is a superb athlete.

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.08.09 11:32:13 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : All holders of world cup medals!!

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.08.09 11:33:27 by Whindy Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 21) : and on his form in the last two games, he’s the best hooker in the world, bar none.

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.08.09 11:33:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 22) : funny, isn’t it?

    Robbie Brink’s also got one…

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.08.09 11:34:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 15) :
    :grin:

    This is really a joke.
    So the team has to be bad in order for the coach to get credit?

    Come on people.

    The players HAVE to be good – that’s why they get picked for the national team.

    The captain HAS TO lead the team on the field – that’s his job.

    The assistants are there for exactly that purpose – TO ASSIST.

    This is the same in every team or every sport…so why are people acting like PdV is the only guy who actually gets assisted by…wait for it…his assistants…??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.08.09 11:35:40 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : @robdylan (Comment 24) : Ja it was a team that was not the most talented, but just happened to have an inspirational and clever coach who made sure they were the fittest and played to there strengths

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.08.09 11:37:13 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 15) : Amen :???:

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.08.09 11:38:14 by diablo Reply

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  • Copied from staaldraad as Big Fish says:

    You want the scary version of this Bok team? They have not even clicked completely yet.

    Last week we spent quite a bit of time on where the Boks might be getting it wrong from an attacking perspective, and that has not really improved in the last test in Durban yet the Boks still managed to smash the All Blacks who, let’s be honest, looked and played like amateurs.

    One cannot really complain about a win and lament the attacking prowess of this Bok outfit if we physically and tactically outmatch the All Blacks, even more so for me personally as my biggest criticism of Peter de Villiers in the last year is that he is trying to change dimensions to the team too quickly.

    And the most encouraging thing is hearing the comments from the Bok camp in players and coaches is that they realise there is still massive room for improvement.

    Tactically the Boks were absolutely brilliant, and add to that their physicality in tackling the All Blacks behind the gain line which gave Brüssow and early Christmas, and you have a recipe for success.

    McCaw mentioned after the two tests that what makes this team so dangerous is their composure and the fact that they have a plan, and stick to it.

    We can rightly be slightly concerned that the Boks still play most of the match without the ball, but boy if we start changing that I feel sorry for the rest of the teams in the world.

    One thing you have to give De Villiers credit for is the fact that he seems to learn quite quickly. Although he understood the basics Jake White instilled in this team and what he developed, he did not seem to appreciate it fully in 2008 trying to add dimensions to the Boks play too quickly. In 2009 I have seen a complete change in approach, where the strengths of the Boks are appreciated more, and how they were given the tools to become even better than what they were in 2007. The slower introduction of elements and players also gave this Bok side a sense of unpredictability along with their pragmatism which now has our opponents sitting up an taking notice of what we are beginning to get right in our rugby.

    Dropping of the ELV’s has complimented this to a very large extend, and where the Boks struggled to adapt to the laws in 2008, we now see teams like the All Blacks struggling to get a grip on the physicality and tactical appreciation which compliment the current set of laws.

    But it is in the execution where I am most impressed. The Boks have no doubt progressed from 2007 and has become even better in their simple application and execution of pragmatic rugby where it seems most other teams have stood still, or regressed. Leading from the front here is Fourie du Preez, who simply has no equal in world rugby at the moment.

    This is why it never was, or never should be about Jake White versus Peter de Villiers, but rather the fact that De Villiers would never have achieved what he currently does if it was not for the structures implemented by Jake, and Jake would have struggled to allow this team to have progressed to the levels they have now.

    And when this team with Jake White’s pragmatism, starts adding the dimensions of Peter de Villiers like we did at Ellis Park against the Aussies and at Twickenham against England, we will dominate world rugby.

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.08.09 11:38:32 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : yes but a lot of the team retired. what was the age of the inherited players? p div is lucky he has inherited a young team.

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 29) : this team has a new 1,2,3,6,10 and 15… that’s almost half the team changed.

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.08.09 11:51:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • ” he is being given a huge helping hand by a bunch of guys who know what they are about.”

    An idiot’s guide to being a good coach:

    1. Drop all the players that were used by the previous coach. Who cares if they are the best in the country – just don’t use them because you’ll never get credit for anything they do. They are not your players. Get Frankenstein’s book and make your own players stupid!

    2. Pick the worst guy as the captain. If you pick a guy who’s gonna marshal the team out there- he’ll only steal your good coach points.
    You don’t need all that drama!

    3. Pick garden gnomes as assistants. In that way – you will be the tallest and most vocal person during training sessions and during the match. This will definitely enhance your good coach status.

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.08.09 11:57:34 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 25) : Black shark I do not understand what you are trying to say “So the team has to be bad in order for the coach to get credit?”

    I never said that, a great coach uses resources available to him. .What I am saying is that I am still not convinced PDV is solely responsible for what is going on. PDV announced at the start of his tenure as coach that the Springboks would spread it wide, that vision cost us last years Tri-nations,we were already the best, but due to his “vision that never happened, then suddenly there is a complete reversal, in the way they play, with no announcement from him, along the lines of we are returning to our strengths. Then he subs the whole bench when he thinks he has won against the Lions first test and that nearly cost us the game. We were bloody lucky not to draw the second test and then on top of this instead of preparing for the Tri-nations he subs the team with ten replacements, hello and this is a great coach, bulshit!! He is lucky he has the team he has got and extremely lucky he has the captain he has because without John Smit he would be without a job IMO. I have not even mentioned all his PRO Gaffs which he cannot be helped with because there he is on his own and what a mess he made of that

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.08.09 12:01:46 by Whindy Reply
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  • I will surely intrust my car with this black mechanic, no matter if he is using new or old spanners… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.08.09 12:02:56 by Charlie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) : comment of the day

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.08.09 12:05:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) : Well, the road from the pit to the palace was never promised as being covered with roses all along… :wink:

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.08.09 12:05:45 by Charlie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Blackshark 4 President !!!

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.08.09 12:06:30 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) :

    So the fact that we lost John Smit for the entire series last year played no part in our performance in the 3N last year? Even Henry mentioned it was the one thing that had the biggest influence.

    The 2nd half subs were done with 15 minutes left, with a 20 point (?) lead?

    These players let themselves down because whether you start or come on the match 22 makes you one of the best in SA and they played kak. Even so, he admitted his mistake.

    We won at Loftus despite Schalk’s brain dead antics.

    The changes in the 3rd test was two-fold, the series was won and he rested his stars for the 3N, and he gave guys that warmed the bench for 3 or so weeks a run.

    Did PDV let the fans down? Or the players again?

    And of course he sees the value Smit brings, that is why he went to France to get him back to SA for SA and Bok rugby.

    How about highlighting the great things this team achieved under the coach?

    They far outweigh the bad ones.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.08.09 12:08:57 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 37) : Say no more… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.08.09 12:10:40 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 37) :

    Hell dont even take my word for it.

    Go google recent interviews with Smit, Matfield, Frans Steyn and Bryan Habana where they discuss the coach and what he brings to the team.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.08.09 12:10:54 by Morné Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) : I don’t think the coach is ever solely responsible for anything in rugby. It’s a team sport and at the end of the day, the coach can’t take the field with the team. Unless he’s a player-coach, but de Villiers is probably an even worse scrummie than Januarie these days!

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.08.09 12:11:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) :

    The ‘greatest coach’ in some people’s view even sees himself as a facilitator, and not a coach – he surrounds himself with competent people (players and assistants). Care to guess who this is?

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.08.09 12:13:50 by Morn? Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) : Pretty patheic comment, which just shows what little knowledge you actually have, he did not pick his assistants, SARU did!! But Hillarious anyway, we all know Meyer was the best equipped ooach. I shall leave it there because I do not want to get banned

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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) : Pretty patheic comment, which just shows what little knowledge you actually have, he did not pick his assistants, SARU did!! But Hillarious anyway, we all know Meyer was the best equipped ooach. I shall leave it there because I do not want to get banned

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.08.09 12:14:58 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 42) :

    They went through a process of application, and PDV together with the panel appointing them held the interviews and ultimately appointed the assistants.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.08.09 12:16:23 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 44) : Even before the interviews PDV said that he would like to have Muir & Gold with him…

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.08.09 12:22:16 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 45) : So he actually knew what he wanted… :wink:

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.08.09 12:23:10 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) :

    “and then on top of this instead of preparing for the Tri-nations he subs the team with ten replacements ”

    I thought making those changes was the perfect way of preparing for the Tri-Nations – but clearly I’m from a different school of thought.

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.08.09 12:25:43 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 44) : And Morne are you going to tell me that PDV was appointed on merit as well!!

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  • @blackshark (Comment 47) : Clearly, I would have kept the momentum going and gone for a whitewash, not handed out caps for free

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.08.09 12:30:28 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Morn? (Comment 41) : Robbie Deans? :)

    @Whindy (Comment 48) : Come on, guys… please.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.08.09 12:32:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 46) : Charlie if that was true why did Dick Muir apply against him?

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.08.09 12:33:17 by Whindy Reply
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  • Well I’ll hold my hand up and say I was vquite critical of de Villiers.

    And I still stand by comments made previosuly.
    What is encouraging is that PdV is adapting. He’s quieter and he’s realised he doesnt need to reinvent the wheel – he just has to keep the Bok wheel turning and blood new players – the vets in the side will do the rest to bring those guys up to the field of play.

    Moving Smit to TH was PdV’s masterstroke and a very successful move.

    Other than that the defensive work and compsure is there now and there is less of the bringing all the subs on and runnign from all corners that there was last year.

    All in all PdV is becoming a crustie international coach that is realising its all about winning at this level.

    Bravo lads, and keep up the good work.
    And make no mistake, if you do somehting stupid again I’ll again criticise but the last couple of weeks have been good, clinical rugby.

    Oh, and the Boks are nowhere near their best yet.

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  • @Whindy (Comment 43) :

    I wonder how long it was gonna take before you accused Meyer of stealing Jake White’s team and using Gary and Dick’s expertise. :roll:

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  • @Whindy (Comment 48) :

    Dont mean to wade into this but PdV was more qualified when appointed than Jake White was.
    And just as loose with the tongue.
    Only differenc eis that Peter has realised life is a lot easier when you dont try have a pissing contest ith every journo, administrator and politician.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.08.09 12:37:58 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Oh, and another thing. I still dont think test rugby suits de Villiers tyle but if he continues in this vain he’ll grow into the role and make it his own.

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  • @Whindy (Comment 51) :

    Because he wanted to be the head coach… :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.08.09 12:41:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • OFF TOPIC:

    Where are the Frans Steyn detractors now? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.08.09 12:42:10 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 48) :

    I had no problem with his appointment.

    What I can tell you though is that he was shot down before he even lifted a finger.

    And now that we are achieving some great success he continues to be shot down…

    And we wonder how he came up with mechanic analogies…

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.08.09 12:43:17 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) :

    The one and only!

    @blackshark (Comment 57) :

    The ones that said he should play 15?

    They are all around you ;)

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.08.09 12:44:21 by Morné Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 52) :

    Definitely nowhere near our best…and we still smashed the All Blacks! :razz:

    Bismarck was not at his best during the lions tour – but he is coming back nicely. Him and Beast played like extra-loosies. I’m still concerned about Juan Smith.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.08.09 12:50:53 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 59) :

    Nah, not those, the ones who said he must play a different sport…

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  • Pts BP Tot
    1 Jarsonx 22.5 0.00 22.50
    2 Vlamgat 21.0 0.00 21.00
    3 rekinek 20.5 0.33 20.83
    4 Slak 20.0 0.50 20.50
    5 Dee 19.5 0.33 19.83
    6 IceBabe 19.5 0.33 19.83
    7 Guppyonroids 19.0 0.75 19.75
    8 war1 19.0 0.58 19.58
    9 Milissa 19.5 0.00 19.50
    Iceman 19.5 0.00 19.50

    Where are all my derctors now??? :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.08.09 12:56:34 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 57) : I still don’t like him, although I’ll concede he’s a far better fullback than he is anything else.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.08.09 12:58:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 62) :

    I was chasing the top 10 but now I’m even out of the Top 20. :cry:

    Doing better in the 3N… :smile:

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.08.09 13:02:45 by blackshark Reply

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  • the fact is as white’s successor he will always be compared to white. white got a tri nations trophy. he then was allowed to play dismal rugby as long as he brought home the rwc trophy which he did.

    p div has had a great win rate, but he has lost out on a tn trophy already after the victory against the all blacks in their back yard last year. and that was with a team that had just won a rwc. white at least won the tri nations with the scraps left of the boks after adolf blew them apart. i’ll give div his due when he gets the silverware. but i feel he is on the right course. divs true test will come next year when we lose fourie jean and frans to france.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) :

    You don’t have to like him…clapping is enough… :evil:

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.08.09 13:03:47 by blackshark Reply

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  • Almost forgot…

    UP THE BUCS!

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.08.09 13:07:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • Lets just agree with the fact that people like to complain and some will never ever be happy.

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.08.09 13:11:19 by molly Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 64) :

    me not…

    But I am stoked to be 6th after the rounds on such a big pool…my hubby is in 5th…so need to make a plan!! :twisted:

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.08.09 13:12:28 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 15) : Your just bitter and mad that Pdv is doing the business. Who were you cheering for to get the job? Jake the Snake?

    Tell me what would convince you that the coach is coaching? A signed declaration from all the players? A documentary on the bok camp? The only thing really great about the boks victory on Saturday for me, is that Keo, White and Rich are choking on their bitter agenda to get Pdv fired. A$$sholes the lot of them.

    As for Frans Steyn. He is not exactly setting the field on fire. Better than his usual crap, but not spectacular. Tell me, must he miss a drop kick in every game? Is that the rule?

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.08.09 13:14:01 by Iago Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 65) :

    PDV won the Freedom Cup – for the first time the Boks won it since its inception as far as memory serves.

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 65) : That was with a team that was still playing rush defence stamp kar rugby. pdv had to teach them how to side step and off load off a tackle in addition to how to tackle a player to dislodge a ball, not plant a man in the soil, but allow him to get the off load. Pdv developed the appreciation for fetchers.

    I am shocked that after years of getting his arse kicked in the trinations at the break down by Richie, that arse Jake White still said, fetchers are for fetching his beer from the fridge. What a plonker.

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.08.09 13:18:12 by Iago Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 66) : Better then being a sore loser… :wink:

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 21) : Finally someone sees the light!!!! :!:
    @blackshark (Comment 67) : Yep they did it as we said we would! but damn I hate penalties not good for the constitution! :shock:

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  • @Iago (Comment 70) :

    He missed one on Saturday? I must’ve missed it…

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  • @Iago (Comment 70) :

    :shock:

    I dont see anything wrong with FS taking chance for a drop?? If you dont take chances – where will you be??..What if it’s over everytime?? its 50/50…

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.08.09 13:19:42 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 76) : He keeps missing them when a chance exists to pass the ball and make the back line fire. It’s missed opporttunaties if you miss the drop, esspecially since he wants to take them from the goal posts behind him.

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.08.09 13:22:33 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 72) :

    As that commentator said on saturday…if Jake lived with Heinrich…he’d be an alcoholic… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.08.09 13:24:10 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 75) : as far as I can remember, he did. In the second half, from way out on the left. It looked good at first but missed quite badly to the right.

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.08.09 13:26:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 75) : Were you dancing around celebrating too much?

  • Comment 80, posted at 03.08.09 13:27:13 by Iago Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : Don;t be so quick to ban dude? I saw you warning that other bloke. Relax. A bit of fire on the blog never hurt anyone. I should know.

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.08.09 13:28:44 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 77) :

    The tactic is simple, if he slots it it is 3 points.

    If he misses the opposition is still pinned in their own 22.

    If he tries to run it from there (usually when it is kicked onto him) he has 3 guys in support at most, up against 15 defenders.

    The odds are not in his favour.

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.08.09 13:28:50 by Morné Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 78) : :smile:

  • Comment 83, posted at 03.08.09 13:29:17 by Iago Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 78) : that was bright. Matthew Pearce is a superb commentator.

  • Comment 84, posted at 03.08.09 13:29:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 77) :

    Okay – I understand where u coming from..BUt it goes both ways or could rather…test match = sign and seal the deal…take chances, but by taking chances you might miss out on others…catch 22?

  • Comment 85, posted at 03.08.09 13:29:56 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 81) : Iago, we have a very strict rule here about discussing politics. It is a clear no-no. All our posters know that yet some always try to take the gap.

  • Comment 86, posted at 03.08.09 13:30:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 78) : The sad thing is that Jake didn;t need a fetcher at his house to become a drunk.

  • Comment 87, posted at 03.08.09 13:30:56 by Iago Reply

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  • BTW – the ball that Smoking Joe failed to sot down behind the goal line and opted to try run… anyone else notice that it was one of the All Blacks that kicked it back, rather than a Bok kicking it through? Roc did the right thing, cos if he’d dotted it, it would’ve been a 5m scrum anyway.

  • Comment 88, posted at 03.08.09 13:32:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 85) : Check his goal kicking percentage. I think it is at less than 40%. Pretty poor for a guy who proclaimed that he wanted the 10 jersey and got plenty of opportunaties to wear it.

  • Comment 89, posted at 03.08.09 13:33:48 by Iago Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : Are you afraid a war will break out? :grin: I get it. You have “don;t even go there” rules. Hahahahahaha. Thanks for telling me, I never read them.

  • Comment 90, posted at 03.08.09 13:36:00 by Iago Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : Henry defended that lunacy, by saying that the game plan was not to kick out, so as not to let the boks get a line out, which was their strength from the first test, together with the rolling maul.

    Puer stupidity I tell you. This test will go down as the most embarassing test for the All Blacks ever! It was hard to watch.

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.08.09 13:38:12 by Iago Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : @Iago (Comment 80) :

    I probably was dancing around at that time…yeah…

    I didn’t miss the monster kick that led to the try though… :razz:

  • Comment 92, posted at 03.08.09 13:45:48 by blackshark Reply

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  • I still find it really funny that when the team wins it is becos of the players but when they lose it is PDV’s fault. WTF?? :shock:

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.08.09 13:48:41 by wpw Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 77) :
    One thing in this team that doesnt fire is the backline (on attack anyway). The backline is now primarily there for defence and applying mega pressure (successfuly) on the bombs that have been sent up by du Preez and the 2 Steyns.
    Dont expect to see a full line movement any time soon.

  • Comment 94, posted at 03.08.09 13:50:35 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 70) : Largo, You seem to be insinuating that I am in the same camp as Keo and company and I am not, all I am saying is I do not think PDV is up to the job and is getting more help than your normal coach does, if that makes me bitter then so be it, but his skin colour has got nothing to do with my arguement, I am judging him on his ability as a coach and I am a detractor and I hope he proves me wrong but do not make me out to be a bitter racist because I resent that.

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.08.09 13:51:47 by Whindy Reply
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  • Nice article

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 94) : that’s cos Jacobs and Pienaar aren’t there.

    @Iago (Comment 90) : I understood young Wesley explained the rules to you. Must have a “little word” with him :)

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.08.09 13:52:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 97) :
    Yep, like I said “dont expect to see a full line movement any time soon”.

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.08.09 13:55:51 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 94) :

    I think we’ll see a bit more decent moves involving the backs under different weather conditions…

    Even though Habs and JP etc didn’t get possession going forward…they were still full of running and didn’t look like frustrated backline prima donnas. They understood the game plan – executed….and that was the end of the All Blacks.

    Hey Rob – we need another ” Let’s not get carried away” article for this week. It worked !

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.08.09 14:01:37 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 95) : I don’t think anyone is calling anyone else a racist because anyone who did that wouldn’t last here very long.

    *subtle hint, everyone*

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.08.09 14:03:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 100) :

    You are such a racist for not calling me a racist!

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.08.09 14:07:08 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 101) : ay yay yay!

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.08.09 14:10:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • ‘Young Wesley’ are here Rob! :roll:

  • Comment 103, posted at 03.08.09 14:14:46 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan : Thanks Rob. A pic of Rory in full flight! :lol:

  • Comment 104, posted at 03.08.09 14:16:10 by Rahul Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 99) :
    No pains with that as I said mega pressure was successfuly applied.

  • Comment 105, posted at 03.08.09 14:16:18 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Are formula 1 drivers racists?Ok ,i had to.

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  • @wpw (Comment 103) : you were meant to explain the rules to Iago, dolt! :)

  • Comment 107, posted at 03.08.09 14:16:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • WPW! did you see my points for Look on FL? :cool:

  • Comment 108, posted at 03.08.09 14:17:14 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 108) : I also got LOTS for him .What a boooytjie

  • Comment 109, posted at 03.08.09 14:19:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : :mrgreen: 151.5 or something! I thought it were a glitch at first!

  • Comment 110, posted at 03.08.09 14:24:53 by Rahul Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 106) :
    Yes, but not all.

  • Comment 111, posted at 03.08.09 14:30:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 107) :
    Oh but i did!! :oops:

  • Comment 112, posted at 03.08.09 14:36:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 95) : Just a few points:

    1. I never called you a racist. I asked who you wanted to have the job instead of him, and suggested Jake. (But: People who usually say that sentence, usually are)

    2. Where is your evidence that Pdv is getting more help than usual? Please give us your information, becuase that statement simply sounds like Gavin Rich telling us he is close to the Bok team and that JS is coaching it, which is hogwash, as John corrected that in an interview with a Cape Town paper;

    3. On his coaching ability, it appears he has achieved more than many SA coaches in the past have. Robdylan and the rest have already posted his achievements, I need not repeat them;

    4. The name is IAGO, from the Shakespearan Othello, you replied to me as “LARGO”.

    A word of advice, if you are not too knowledgeable about rugby, start watching with analysis, and try and read the work of scribes other than Rich, and the Keo baffoons.

  • Comment 113, posted at 03.08.09 14:38:30 by Iago Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 112) : You told me to go read the rules. I chose NOT TO.

  • Comment 114, posted at 03.08.09 14:39:18 by Iago Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 57) : I am a Frans Steyn detractor..when he plays 10 or even 12. I have ALWAYS maintained that he would be a great fullback.

  • Comment 115, posted at 03.08.09 14:54:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • :shock:

  • Comment 116, posted at 03.08.09 14:56:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 110) : is he your captain?

  • Comment 117, posted at 03.08.09 14:59:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 116) : 12 ‘guests’ online to watch the fight…

  • Comment 118, posted at 03.08.09 14:59:12 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 113) : careful, lass… you want to get to know people here a little better before accusing them of knowing nothing about the game. Remember everybody is entitled to their own. We don’t need to get personal or question their knowledge if they disagree

  • Comment 119, posted at 03.08.09 15:00:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 113) : Iago I apologise for spelling your name wrong as for rugby analysis, I will take heed of your advise and watch with interest, just hope you are not like the others on this site who scream blue murder when PDV does something wrong and cheer for him when he wins. As for the racist analogy that’s your opinion you are welcome to it, as I am to my thoughts on PDV, time will tell and as I said before, I hope I am proved wrong but I sill doubt I will be

  • Comment 120, posted at 03.08.09 15:03:40 by Whindy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 117) : Ja, I rate him for at least one try per game… but a hatrick!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 121, posted at 03.08.09 15:05:14 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 118) : I ain’t leaving this page :lol:

  • Comment 122, posted at 03.08.09 15:09:49 by molly Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 118) : @molly (Comment 122) : At least I conceded defeat in comment 10 already :roll: …..I’ll just stick around for the fight :wink:

  • Comment 123, posted at 03.08.09 15:12:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 122) : :lol:
    @Pokkel (Comment 123) : PdV will go down as the best bok coach ever when he wins the tri nations this year!

  • Comment 124, posted at 03.08.09 15:17:56 by Rahul Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : They do? :???:

  • Comment 125, posted at 03.08.09 15:19:32 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 125) : They do! but like to ‘push the envelope’ :grin:

  • Comment 126, posted at 03.08.09 15:20:52 by Rahul Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 52) : I’ll cosign on this.

  • Comment 127, posted at 03.08.09 15:22:17 by klempie Reply

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  • FIGHT!! FIGHT!!!!!!

  • Comment 128, posted at 03.08.09 15:23:59 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 125) : amazingly, yes – some of them still try.

    I’m afraid my rule means I’ll never get 400 comments on each thread like they do on Keo. Then again, I’m quite happy not to have 6 decent rugby comments and 394 abusive flames!

  • Comment 129, posted at 03.08.09 15:25:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Alrighty then! :???:

  • Comment 130, posted at 03.08.09 15:29:07 by wpw Reply
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  • Off the topic…How brilliant was Bismarck on Saturday :cool:

  • Comment 131, posted at 03.08.09 15:29:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • So the weather is quite nice in Cape Town today!! :roll:

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  • @robdylan (Comment 129) : and thats why I no longer go to Keo (well… for a laugh every now and then).

    Get a much healthier debate here as well, when you cut out all the BS.

  • Comment 133, posted at 03.08.09 15:31:18 by molly Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 131) : he was awesome! no one told him he was in the tight 5 and not a loosey. Surely Heinrich will keep Schalk out of the boks as well!!

  • Comment 134, posted at 03.08.09 15:31:22 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 90) : He does, he does. But stick with me and you will learn how to push the envelope. :grin:

  • Comment 135, posted at 03.08.09 15:32:23 by klempie Reply

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  • Right well it has been fun, but the end of the day has come here, I look forward to reading Iago expert analysis over the next couple of days, see you all tomorrow for another fun installment :mrgreen:

  • Comment 136, posted at 03.08.09 15:32:41 by Whindy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 100) : You are a racist. :grin:

  • Comment 137, posted at 03.08.09 15:35:05 by klempie Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 101) : Oh Morras beat me to it. :sad:

  • Comment 138, posted at 03.08.09 15:35:53 by klempie Reply

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  • @Rahul (Comment 118) : :twisted:

  • Comment 139, posted at 03.08.09 15:40:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 129) : I was being sarcastic! :roll:

  • Comment 140, posted at 03.08.09 15:42:14 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 135) : careful, Iago… klamps tends to come on a little strong when there’s a new girl on the blog. Once he’s taken his dried frog pills and had a lie down, he generally settles down, though.

  • Comment 141, posted at 03.08.09 15:42:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 134) : Only hope Schalk has to get back into the Bok team is to compete with Juan for no 7. I critised Juan last week,but jeez he puts in a lot of tackles.

  • Comment 142, posted at 03.08.09 15:43:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 141) : Iago is a pretty weird name for a chick! I made the comment under the impression she was a he. :roll:

  • Comment 143, posted at 03.08.09 15:44:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 141) : And what the hell are frog pills? :???:

  • Comment 144, posted at 03.08.09 15:44:26 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 141) : Klempie just needs a alcoholic drink every now and again :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 145, posted at 03.08.09 15:44:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 140) : whatever dude. Remember, it’s only real humour if somebody other than you than you thinks it’s funny too :)

  • Comment 146, posted at 03.08.09 15:45:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 146) : :razz:

  • Comment 147, posted at 03.08.09 15:46:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 145) : lots of smaller okes love acting big behind a PC. Keo is the same.

  • Comment 148, posted at 03.08.09 15:50:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 148) : Oooooooooo. That’s cold.

  • Comment 149, posted at 03.08.09 15:52:18 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 149) : are you as outspoken in real life as you are here?

  • Comment 150, posted at 03.08.09 16:06:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 150) : Probably more so. I have a muzzle on me here. :roll:

  • Comment 151, posted at 03.08.09 16:07:52 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 148) : :lol:

    @klempie (Comment 149) : Hoe was jou troue Saterdag?

  • Comment 152, posted at 03.08.09 16:08:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 152) : Gelukkig was dit nie myne nie. :) Ag soos ek gese het. Een gesien, almal gesien. The kak part was my flight out of Durban was delayed from 6.45 to 11.45!! :evil:

  • Comment 153, posted at 03.08.09 16:10:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 153) : Ek het bedoel ‘die’ troue..hulle word net kakker as dit met die rugby bots…kak beplanning

  • Comment 154, posted at 03.08.09 16:12:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 154) : Ag ek kannie hom blameer nie. Dit was oorspronklik vir October of iets beplan maar daar was ‘n kanselasie vir hierdie naweek so hulle het dit gevat. Still kak there was not TV though.

  • Comment 155, posted at 03.08.09 16:14:33 by klempie Reply

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  • It will be a sad day for SA rugby if we cannot have a go at the coach anymore. :mrgreen:

    It’s not PdV winning, its Morne Steyn.

    Morne Steyn saved the 2nd Lions test and cliched the series.
    Morne Steyn saved the game last week and won it all by himself this week.

    He would never have been on the field if it wasn’t for injuries. You guys should thank Pienaar’s glass ankle and Morne Steyn the Bull. Not PDivvie!

    And don’t tell me about the 3rd Lions test. 10 Changes, PDivvie making a fool of himself in front of the press and the senior players drawing their armbands. Even Morne Steyn cannot save a team like that.

    Where are all the Morne Steyn detractors today? :oops:

  • Comment 156, posted at 03.08.09 16:15:31 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 156) : Right. WHERE’S IAGO? :twisted:

  • Comment 157, posted at 03.08.09 16:16:36 by klempie Reply

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  • Reality check.

    The 3N record for PdV is 4 out of 8 right now. Better than the over-all SA average of about 23 out of 58 but still worse than Jake White (3 out of 5) at the same point during his tenure.

    JW also had a 3N title. PdV has a last place.

    Think about where the record would have been without Morne Steyn.

  • Comment 158, posted at 03.08.09 16:19:07 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 135) : The envelope appears to be very “kum bah yah”. So are you the resident sh1t stirrer? Hello. Who had a fight? Did I miss it? Damn.

  • Comment 159, posted at 03.08.09 16:24:30 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 157) : Right here. Just came back from a meeting.

  • Comment 160, posted at 03.08.09 16:25:17 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 159) : Certainly am. I have had at least 3 “final” warnings. It’s a delicate tight rope walk. :twisted:

  • Comment 161, posted at 03.08.09 16:28:25 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 160) : Fyndraai is ready for your round two. :wink:

  • Comment 162, posted at 03.08.09 16:29:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 161) : Have you been banned though? Warnings are for pussies.

  • Comment 163, posted at 03.08.09 16:31:43 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 163) : I’m in love…

  • Comment 164, posted at 03.08.09 16:32:23 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 162) : Who is he, and how does he fit into the picture. Jeez you guys are sensitive. Last time I left I had a nice chat with some bloke called Whindy? Then he left. What happened since then, and now people are looking for rounds? I won’t last long on this blog. I have not even started a fight, and people think they are in one. Well come on then Fynbos. Do your worst.

  • Comment 165, posted at 03.08.09 16:35:33 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 164) : :grin: Hahahahahahaha.

  • Comment 166, posted at 03.08.09 16:37:29 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 165) : I was just having a dig. Fyndraai was slating Snor in 156 which I deduced from your bust up with Whindy is contrary to your stand point. If fyndraai was female I might have tossed some jelly in there too to up the stakes. :twisted:

  • Comment 167, posted at 03.08.09 16:39:22 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 167) : He is entitled to have his go at Snor, no problem. I have no problem with comment based on facts, but media blah blah, and rubbish that the coach is not the coach, pisses me off.

    As for Whindy. That was not a bust up, it was a chat. You seem to love looking for the drama. How refreshing. I got the feeling that if I stuck around I was going to be the only one always in the principles office. :smile:

  • Comment 168, posted at 03.08.09 16:44:07 by Iago Reply

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  • principal, sorry.

  • Comment 169, posted at 03.08.09 16:44:37 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 168) : Unfortunately for you, corporal punishment is no longer legal in SA. :wink:

  • Comment 170, posted at 03.08.09 16:46:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 168) : For the record. I think his comment was just sarcasm. He cannot be that stupid.

  • Comment 171, posted at 03.08.09 16:47:31 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 168) : BTW, I am from the “Snor is not actually coaching the team” side of the fence so this should make our impending relationship quite intriguing…. :lol: Bit of a love-hate thing going on.

  • Comment 172, posted at 03.08.09 16:48:09 by klempie Reply

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  • Okay. Seems like everyone has left. I should aswell.

  • Comment 173, posted at 03.08.09 16:48:13 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 170) : Tell that to Robdylan. I’ve never seen rules of a blog that long, or so many warnings.

  • Comment 174, posted at 03.08.09 16:49:25 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 172) : Then you’re an a$$hole. :smile:

  • Comment 175, posted at 03.08.09 16:50:05 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 174) : Oh he’s had enough complaints. There is only so much banging of one’s head against a brick wall that one’s head can take.

  • Comment 176, posted at 03.08.09 16:51:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 172) : I’m curious. I have my views as to why some delusional people have that view, but please give me your reasons.

  • Comment 177, posted at 03.08.09 16:51:36 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 175) : Considering where it’s coming from, I’ll take that as a compliment. ;)

  • Comment 178, posted at 03.08.09 16:51:57 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 177) : It’s nearly home time. Do you really want to do this now? :razz:

  • Comment 179, posted at 03.08.09 16:52:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 176) : So he wants everyone to blog as if they were residents of Stepford? Are we suppose to blog on sedatives? :wink:

  • Comment 180, posted at 03.08.09 16:53:11 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 179) : No. I have to go aswell. But I’d like a response. bring your Pdv hate list next time, I’d love to tear into it, and you.

  • Comment 181, posted at 03.08.09 16:54:35 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 180) : He wants everyone to blog as if they were not residents of South Africa. :razz:

  • Comment 182, posted at 03.08.09 16:54:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 181) : OK see ya.

  • Comment 183, posted at 03.08.09 16:55:35 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 182) : Which is easy for him as he isn’t one. :razz:

  • Comment 184, posted at 03.08.09 16:56:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 182) : Jeez that explains alot.

  • Comment 185, posted at 03.08.09 16:57:52 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 181) & @klempie (Comment 182) : Guys, its really not that complicated, show a degree of respect and don’t bring in politics as almost everyone likes to say, politics and sport don’t mix.
    I find it works pretty well and keeps petty name calling and insulting out of the blog. Its fairly easy to do and keeps the rubbish on reitzworld and keo, which is exactly where I like it.

  • Comment 186, posted at 03.08.09 16:59:53 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 186) : hear hear, well said !

  • Comment 187, posted at 03.08.09 17:01:09 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 185) : :wink:

  • Comment 188, posted at 03.08.09 17:03:13 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 187) : ‘ello ‘ello! Long time no see. I scolded KSA yesterday for the Yankification of his spelling that you’ve diseased him with. :grin:

  • Comment 189, posted at 03.08.09 17:04:20 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 186) : We didn’t bring in politics at all and we haven’t called anyone names mol. I was explaining Rob’s rationale behind “The Rules”, even though I disagree with the premise that politics and sport don’t mix as in SA they are inextricably joined at the hip.

  • Comment 190, posted at 03.08.09 17:06:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 189) : hehehe we’ve gotten to the point where we have to think about the audience before we type/write something :wink: :roll: :lol:
    what did he “mis”-spell ?

  • Comment 191, posted at 03.08.09 17:08:48 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 190) : yeah but wouldn’t we all be MUCH happier if they weren’t inextricably joined at the hip ?

  • Comment 192, posted at 03.08.09 17:10:06 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 190) : I didn’t say you had done anything wrong, I just feel that we do need rules here, and you seem to think they are out of place. I like them, they’re simple and the blog is pretty awesome with them in place.

    How many complaints has Rob gotten for them? And from how many different people? You and TT?

  • Comment 193, posted at 03.08.09 17:10:51 by molly Reply
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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 191) : favorite. :roll:

  • Comment 194, posted at 03.08.09 17:12:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 192) : I PRAY for the day. Unfortunately we know that is an impossible pipe dream.

  • Comment 195, posted at 03.08.09 17:12:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 193) : Pokkel, Sammy, wpw in the early days iirc. I think McLovin too.

  • Comment 196, posted at 03.08.09 17:13:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 194) : ooooo thats a favourite of mine too :lol: :mrgreen: :wink:

  • Comment 197, posted at 03.08.09 17:13:59 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 195) : so isn’t it nice to play in Utopia here then ? :roll: :wink: :cool:

  • Comment 198, posted at 03.08.09 17:15:25 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 198) : KSA is Utopia? :???:

  • Comment 199, posted at 03.08.09 17:16:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 199) : :lol: :lol: :lol:
    sharksworld = utopia — a place where sport and politics aren’t inextricably joined at the hip :roll: :cool:

  • Comment 200, posted at 03.08.09 17:19:12 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 193) : for every one person that complains, I have ten telling me that they wouldn’t have it any other way. So I’m going to go with the majority on this one.

  • Comment 201, posted at 03.08.09 17:24:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 200) : Yeh. A delusional fantasy land where the harsh realities of the world do not exist. :grin:

  • Comment 202, posted at 03.08.09 17:24:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 202) : nothing wrong with that is there ?:wink: :lol: :mrgreen:
    @robdylan (Comment 201) : count me on the “wouldn’t have it any other way”, experienced the other way and SW is plenty better ! :cool:

  • Comment 203, posted at 03.08.09 17:28:07 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • klampie – why don’t you go and register on http://www.ruggaworld.com? You’l LOVE it there, I promise. You can get all your political frustrations out in the open with those boys and come back here when you feel like discussing rugby.

    I reckon Iago would go down a treat there too :mrgreen:

  • Comment 204, posted at 03.08.09 17:30:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • ok, KSA will be back from his cycle soon and as in Utopia/Stepford… like the good rugby-loving wife that I should be, need to get dinner on the table and free up my laptop for HIM :wink: :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 205, posted at 03.08.09 17:31:47 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 203) : I personally think SharksRugby had the best balance. But that’s just me.

  • Comment 206, posted at 03.08.09 17:31:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 203) : I remember the famous “Kette email”. It was quite a piece of work :)

  • Comment 207, posted at 03.08.09 17:31:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 204) : :lol: :lol: :lol:
    and like the prodigal son/s …. we’ll welcome you back when you come a-crawling :roll: :wink:

  • Comment 208, posted at 03.08.09 17:33:25 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 202) : thats why you can go to keo and reitzworld… you have options.

  • Comment 209, posted at 03.08.09 17:35:20 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 204) : As if I have the time. There’s too many posts to read through on mainstream blogs. I can’t be arsed. As for not talking about rugby, I’d like to point out that it was I who picked up the game day commentary slack when Ouboet went AWOL. :evil:

  • Comment 210, posted at 03.08.09 17:35:47 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 209) : Post 210.

  • Comment 211, posted at 03.08.09 17:37:00 by klempie Reply

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  • Gudden dag

  • Comment 212, posted at 03.08.09 17:37:13 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 212) : Heita.

  • Comment 213, posted at 03.08.09 17:39:20 by klempie Reply

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  • Kumba ya peoples

  • Comment 214, posted at 03.08.09 17:40:59 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 210) : I think you misread what I said (or at least misunderstood what I meant)… the idea was to keep discussing rugby here whilst discussing other things in other, more appropriate, places. I find your rugby comments most stimulating and would hate to lose them.

  • Comment 215, posted at 03.08.09 17:41:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hey Rob – guess you know where the detractors are now. :wink:

    The way I see it, you have those with a flawed world view. They are often vociferous in their defence of their view, despite not really arguing on facts. You can still work with them, if you have the patience.

    Then you have the fire-worshippers. These are people to whom each opposing fact is merely a concealing smoke, and every alternative explanation part of a conspiracy. THESE PEOPLE CANNOT BE HELPED.

    Plenty of people in the latter group, and as I am getting older, I am becoming more inclined to allow them to be as dumb as they want to be – the world needs people to buy Verimark products, Lotto tickets and country music.

    PDV has already shown his class as a coach. His players respect him, his record proclaims him, and why should the views of a bunch of deluded souls matter in the great scheme of things?

    Thats how I see it anyway.

  • Comment 216, posted at 03.08.09 17:41:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 215) : Yeh, yeh, yeh. Suck up. :razz:

  • Comment 217, posted at 03.08.09 17:42:44 by klempie Reply

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  • I reckon we have more comments a day than RW. Posting from my phone sux

  • Comment 218, posted at 03.08.09 17:43:56 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 216) : You’ve warmed the cockles of my heart. :wink:

  • Comment 219, posted at 03.08.09 17:44:49 by klempie Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 218) : we do, dude. We have had ever since we were about a month old.

  • Comment 220, posted at 03.08.09 17:48:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • Not a fan of PDV – but I think that the shocking (yes I know that we won…but…) Lions Tour made PDV change a pair of broeks or two…so it seems that he has decided to let the guys do what they do best.

    Welldone PDV and Bokke….

  • Comment 221, posted at 03.08.09 17:56:21 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 221) : You and I are doubleteaming Iago tomorrow. ;)

  • Comment 222, posted at 03.08.09 17:57:37 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 222) : not strong in your convictions? :twisted:

  • Comment 223, posted at 03.08.09 18:02:43 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 223) : I’m just wanting a BRAWL! :twisted:

  • Comment 224, posted at 03.08.09 18:03:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 223) : I reckon he’s tired of being so far out on his own limb all the time.

  • Comment 225, posted at 03.08.09 18:03:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 225) : Come on china. You can do better than that.. :roll:

  • Comment 226, posted at 03.08.09 18:07:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 226) : i save my best shots for the big games

  • Comment 227, posted at 03.08.09 18:38:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 221) :

    That is just the type of response that I am expecting from most PdV detractors. :wink:

    1) PdV has change and come around to our way of thinking so now he is a good guy.

    2) PdV isn’t coaching the team, it is John and Victoria doing the coaching.

    Either way deep down they KNOW PdV is proving them wrong. :razz:

  • Comment 228, posted at 03.08.09 18:58:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 222) : it’s going to be the royal rumble then because i’m in her corner!

  • Comment 229, posted at 03.08.09 19:02:01 by quota Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 221) :
    Do you believe in fairies too?

    Erm, I dont mean the WP kind. :oops:

  • Comment 230, posted at 03.08.09 19:05:22 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 229) : Sweet! :twisted:

  • Comment 231, posted at 03.08.09 19:06:06 by klempie Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 223) :

    Just not strong enough to attack a girl on his own. :wink:

  • Comment 232, posted at 03.08.09 19:06:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 228) : So do you

    a) Believe that we are playing the same unstructured, attack oriented, play it wide at all costs rugby as this time last year?
    b) Believe that we are committing the same number of players to the breakdown as this time last year?
    c) Believe that the players are as confused about the merits of said gameplan as this time last year?

  • Comment 233, posted at 03.08.09 19:11:41 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 233) :

    No
    No
    and
    No

    But that is just my point. PdV was on a lose lose wicket with his detractors.

    Does he stick with the gameplan that he started with then he is an idiot. Does he change the gameplan then he iss till an idiot because he didn’t come around to “their” way of thinking earlier.

    Here is MY take on it though.

    Had Ruan still been the Flyhalf this week, then the gameplan would NOT have changed from last week.

    Last week we were still playing the same attacking game plan and when Steyn Came on at halftime we allowed the ABs back into the game.

    This week we played a COMPLETELY different gameplan. I think Steyn dropped more bombs on the ABs in this one game than Ruan has in his entire time playing at flyhalf for PdV.

    In Summary: PdV has realised that Steyn isn’t a running flyhalf and thus played a different style this week compared to last week. (Excellent coaching)

    I’ll put money on it that when Ruan returns, the Bombs will stop.

  • Comment 234, posted at 03.08.09 19:20:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 233) : whn stirling mortlock makes a comment like the following about the boks, why should i believe anything else?

    “That comes about by being successful and understanding the systems and what you’re trying to achieve,’ he added. ‘And probably where Springboks teams in the past may have played really direct football based around their set-piece totally, these guys have the ability to use the width as they see it.

    They have the ability to sting you off turnovers so, there’s a lot more variation in how they can do things in attack.”

  • Comment 235, posted at 03.08.09 19:21:11 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 235) :

    I find that a strange comment but agree with it actually.

    The reason I find it strange is that I feel the Boks DON’T spread it wide often enough. JPP and Habana doen’t get nearly enough ball IMO. Last week I think Habana got more ball from chasing the kicks than he did from his being passed the ball by his team mates.

  • Comment 236, posted at 03.08.09 19:25:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 234) : Perhaps I need to restate my position. When I say that Snor is not coaching the team, what I mean is, he cannot take credit for the gameplan that is WORKING. His ideas FLOPPED. What his detractors would like to hear coming out of his big mouth is “I was wrong. Last year’s tactics were ill conceived and I should not tried to fix what wasn’t broken.” When I say that the senior players have control, it’s more in a past tense way because I believe (and this is only due to my observation of Div’s arrogant behaviour in the media and also our change in style) that at some point, JS et al sat Div down and said to him, “Look, this isn’t working. Let’s go back to what does.” I believe DM would have had a few suggestions along those lines as well. Kudos to Div for listening but he is basically, by omission, taking the credit for these performances when really he is just reimplementing what worked before he came along. I mean seriously, we were killing in 2007 and then completely tanked in 2008. Now we’re drilling again. You will remember I said earlier in the year that Div was changing my opinion of him because he was adopting huge chunks of our ’07 strategy and that it was looking promising. I am not unreasonable about this.

    I was impressed with him when he admitted that he had made a tactical error with the first BIL game with all the subsitutions (easy to do when you’ve still won). But he undid all of that with his follow ups in the two weeks after.

    As for your AB games comparison, I can’t comment as I didn’t watch the game but I am already suspicious given the VASTLY different conditions between the two games.

  • Comment 237, posted at 03.08.09 19:37:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 235) : Are you saying that it was Div who brought the width to Bok rugby? I really hope you’re not…

  • Comment 238, posted at 03.08.09 19:40:04 by klempie Reply

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  • “these guys have the ability to use the width as they see it.” – this is what pdv was talking about when he said “play the situation”. decision making from any player is paramount before one gets to “play the situation”

    someone earlier said fransie takes the drop from half way, if he gets it 3 points for the boks, if he misses the opposition is pinned in their own 22, let’s switch it up, fransie gets the ball from Fdp from a ruck, we have a an overlap in the backline 1. take the drop 2, swing it wide, none of these plonkers will catch habana or jpp even if they cover defend. decision making time…

    it seems like pdv has empowered the players to make that kind of decision instead of playing it as it is written in the schoolmaster’s handbook…

  • Comment 239, posted at 03.08.09 19:40:09 by quota Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 196) : No complaints from me. I love the site and everybody on it. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 240, posted at 03.08.09 19:41:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • I love PdV too…

  • Comment 241, posted at 03.08.09 19:42:32 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 237) : what were we “killing” in ’07? if i remember well we didn’t win the tri-nations… :?:

  • Comment 242, posted at 03.08.09 19:43:14 by quota Reply

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  • Rob if your out there, I’m getting a 404 on the dot biz site. Just to let you know, no biggie. :smile:

  • Comment 243, posted at 03.08.09 19:44:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • On a different note:

    Michael Lipman, Alex Crockett and Andrew Higgins have been found guilty of misconduct in failing to submit to two drugs tests.

    9 month ban I heard.

  • Comment 244, posted at 03.08.09 19:46:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 242) : You also remember that we sent over non-WC playing Bok sides on the tour down under and almost beat them right??

  • Comment 245, posted at 03.08.09 19:47:25 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 245) : we didn’t win!

  • Comment 246, posted at 03.08.09 19:53:55 by quota Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 243) : thanks. Will look into it.

  • Comment 247, posted at 03.08.09 19:55:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 245) : 33-6 :cry:

  • Comment 248, posted at 03.08.09 19:56:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 246) : we lost 33-zip to the All Blacks. Nearly beat them everywhere but on the scoreboard

  • Comment 249, posted at 03.08.09 19:56:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 247) : You’re my hero. :wink:

  • Comment 250, posted at 03.08.09 19:57:06 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 249) : my bad. We scored 6. That was the day Muller was captain. Poor sod

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  • @McLovin (Comment 250) : is it cos I wear my undies on the outside? :-)

  • Comment 252, posted at 03.08.09 20:00:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 237) :
    HAHAHAHA! Nice one! :lol:

    Oh wait, are you serious? :shock:

  • Comment 253, posted at 03.08.09 20:08:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 247) : oops… some f*cker has deleted the script. I’ll have to find it again. Not sure what the hell is going on here

  • Comment 254, posted at 03.08.09 20:10:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 248) : @robdylan (Comment 251) : exactly my point! that year the bulls won the s14 and if some journos in this country are to be believed, we are supposed to clean up everything come tri-nations, it did’t happen that year, why?

    last year after winning the RWC & when many of the players that featured in the final were terribly out of form (butch, matfield, fdp, smit, percy) people still go on about “we should’ve won the tri-nations last year, we’re the world champions”…nonsense if you ask me

  • Comment 255, posted at 03.08.09 20:12:23 by quota Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 249) : Thanks Rob. Unexpected but thanks. :cool:

    By them I meant NZ AND Aus cos we also lead the Aussies in Aus til right up to the end iirc losing 25-17.

  • Comment 256, posted at 03.08.09 20:12:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 255) : based on what? No coach in SA has ever managed to “routinely” win the Tri-Nations. We should go into it ever year expecting to finish last because like all the other SANZAR tournaments it is heavily weighted against us.

  • Comment 257, posted at 03.08.09 20:18:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 253) : Come on dude. Counter the argument.

  • Comment 258, posted at 03.08.09 20:18:10 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 257) : well you’re on my side dude, i’m still tryna get a response from klempie here, he suggested that “we we killing” in ’07 and that PdV’s tactics messed up everything that was built the year before… :smile:

  • Comment 259, posted at 03.08.09 20:25:51 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 259) : he he. Good on you. Welcome to the site, by the way. Where are you from?

  • Comment 260, posted at 03.08.09 20:27:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 260) : south africa

  • Comment 261, posted at 03.08.09 20:32:27 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 259) : My point about us almost beating the ABs and Aussies away with a full B-side WAS my response. The implication is that had we sent a full strength team we would have in all likelihood KILLED them. In other words, considering the relatives strengths of teams we put out and the teams the played against, 2007 was a pretty damn good year.

  • Comment 262, posted at 03.08.09 20:33:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 262) : 7th July 2007 Australia 25 – 17 South Africa
    14th July 2007 New Zealand 33 – 6 South Africa

    so who did we nearly beat? :???:

  • Comment 263, posted at 03.08.09 20:37:37 by quota Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 262) : hopefully this year can be just as good a year, or better :mrgreen:

  • Comment 264, posted at 03.08.09 20:38:44 by war1 Reply
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  • We also lost to the AB’s at home in 2007. :neutral:

  • Comment 265, posted at 03.08.09 20:41:40 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 265) : Just read that Bryan Habana, Fourie du Preez, Pierre Spies, Juan Smith and John Smit didn’t play in that test agianst. :shock:

  • Comment 266, posted at 03.08.09 20:43:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • Bok/All Black results since start of 2004

    2004 Lost 21-23 Christchurch, Won 42-26 Johannesburg

    2005 Won 22-16 Cape Town, Lost 27-31 Dunedin

    2006 Lost 17-35 Wellington, Lost 26-45 Pretoria, Won 21-20 Rustenburg

    2007 Lost 21-26 Durban, Lost 6-33 Christchurch

    2008 Lost 8-19 Wellington, Won 30-28, Lost 0-19 Cape Town

    2009 Won 28-19 Bloemfontein, Won 31-19 Durban.

  • Comment 267, posted at 03.08.09 20:45:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • Hei dudes & dudettes. My 2c. Iago: Frans Steyn has a 40% kicking ratio coz 90% of his kicks are further than the 45m mark. Molly: if SO many people agree that sport and politics dont mix, why is there a minister of sport and a parlimantiary (sic) commitee of sport. Rob: even if there are no-no rules, discussions are bound to edge on them coz of the bill of rights (yep,i know about that a lil :-) )

  • Comment 268, posted at 03.08.09 20:45:35 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 263) : We LEAD Aus until the last minutes or so and we held NZ until the last 10!!

  • Comment 269, posted at 03.08.09 20:46:30 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 265) : yeah, but only when js went off injured

  • Comment 270, posted at 03.08.09 20:48:29 by war1 Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 266) : Thanks for strengthening my point. :cool: You’re a pal.

  • Comment 271, posted at 03.08.09 20:51:06 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 269) : dude come on, the score was 0-5 @ halftime @ newlands last year & percy missed two kicks (hardly the coach’s fault), i think dan carter broke through the defence & scored a try and then those imbeciles frans steyn & jdv gifted mealamu with a soft try! yet you say pdv messed up things…close games, schmloes lames, we lost that’s it!

  • Comment 272, posted at 03.08.09 20:55:27 by quota Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 268) : Ah. I see a kindred spirit. :grin: What a pity reality is not appreciated on this site. :sad:

  • Comment 273, posted at 03.08.09 20:56:16 by klempie Reply

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  • We never ‘killed’ in the tri-nations. Even in 1998 we won some very close games. To say we would have/could have is simply wishful thinking, sorry.

    I have no beef with PdV or any coach as long as they keep winning.

    As things stand at the moment I’m very chuffed with the boks and their results.

    I’m off. :smile:

  • Comment 274, posted at 03.08.09 21:11:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • Lol @ klempie. Yep, reality is definitely not appreciated on this site. Everyday its sumbody else :-) but hey, what i’ve just said makes ME always right then? And that’s not reality too

  • Comment 275, posted at 03.08.09 21:13:38 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 272) : We got NILLED at home for the first time ever!! And then got beaten by Aus for the first time at home in like 8 years or something. What does that say about BOTH our defense and even more ironically ATTACK at that point in time. I mean Snor was trying to be expansive right?? It was only after the Durban booing that we saw structure return to our defensive lines and forwards cleaning up the breakdown and all of a sudden voila! Come on. Be honest. Did you REALLY expect 50+ against Aus that day? No one did because they expected Div to keep hounding away at his kak “play it as you see it” approach. It’s like Bros says: You’ve got earn the right to take it wide.

  • Comment 276, posted at 03.08.09 21:15:13 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 274) : I said killed in ’07, as in the year, as a whole. I mean, we won team of the year didn’t we? :???:

  • Comment 277, posted at 03.08.09 21:19:46 by klempie Reply

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  • maybe PdV can coach, but i still think he cant speak

  • Comment 278, posted at 03.08.09 21:28:30 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • i think i have contracted swine flu :sad:

  • Comment 279, posted at 03.08.09 21:32:55 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 276) : who told you that pdv instructed players not to contest the breakdown or keep proper defensive lines because he wants the team to play “expansively”? That is just ignorant stuff man…direct rugby or “structured” rugby is not a jake white invention, if you watch the aus vs all black game in auckland, the all black were playing exactly what you would call “structured” rugby. Did graham henry copy it from white? Do we all of a sudden discredit him for changing the playing style to a more conservative one rather that his usual expansive approach, even though his team won? Being a coach also means being adaptable. It’s like sailing, you can change tack 15 times as long as you are moving forward & getting to your destination!

    @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 278) : he certainly can speak, he is just not eloquent in the english language, it’s not his mother tongues. Can you speak tshivenda? or can you express yourself in Mandarin?

  • Comment 280, posted at 03.08.09 21:56:56 by quota Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 258) :
    Fair comment – I was probably being rude.

    Its just that (no disrespect intended) you are one of the fire-worshipers – no argument is gonna stick with you, because facts can be rearranged to suit agendas – ask any journo or lawyer.

    Ask anybody who coached however, and they will tell you that nobody can “inherit a winning team” – they have to reinvent the team as soon as they receive it; and no player can coach a professional team instead of the coach.

    @klempie (Comment 273) :
    @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 275) :
    Sadly, its the the two of you who seem intent on ignoring reality – and in so doing, miss being part of something special.

    Oh well, c’est la vie.

  • Comment 281, posted at 03.08.09 22:35:44 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 280) : He has no tact when speaking, i didnt mean he cant speak at all. Doesnt matter in what language u sh!t, it still stinks. And u seem a tad over sensitive, remember everyone is allowed their own opinions.

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  • @klempie (Comment 277) : I see. We certainly did. ’07 is one of my favourite rugby years. :smile:

  • Comment 283, posted at 04.08.09 07:39:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 273) : Would you go into a stadium featuring Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates and start some freedom of speech about where are all the white players and why is soccer so racist? You certainly could, it’s your democratic right to air your views, right?

  • Comment 284, posted at 04.08.09 08:11:42 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 277) : Only because we won RWC. If England had won it, they would have got the award. Even the Argies were in the running.

    Tri Nations 2007 – SA played 4, won one, finished last. It’s easy to make an argument when you fudge the facts.

  • Comment 285, posted at 04.08.09 08:19:47 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 282) : look here this is my second day on this blog & already you’re trying to label me! challenge my assertions by all means & stop worrying about my wellbeing you know jack sh!t about me! Wtf is wrong with this dude?

  • Comment 286, posted at 04.08.09 08:31:01 by quota Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 278) : I guess that’s why he’s called a coach, he’s there to coach. Public speaking is a secondary, media-fueled role which, considering he is conversing in a second language, is not altogether bad. Of course the analogies are lost in translation, but the fact is, he has a bloody good record and regardless of whether you like the way he speaks or not, he is coach of the number 1 team in the world.

  • Comment 287, posted at 04.08.09 08:45:25 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 286) :

    :shock:

    Bulls fan by any chance?? :twisted:

  • Comment 288, posted at 04.08.09 08:49:35 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 287) : thank you baldrick…and be aware you’re going to be labelled as “over sensitive” just now, wait for it… :D

  • Comment 289, posted at 04.08.09 08:50:44 by quota Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 288) : I don’t entirely get the reasoning why he might be a Bulls fan simply because he disagrees with someone who doesn’t like the way PDV talks in English. Anyway, this article is defending PDV so JarsonX is actually the detractor here.

  • Comment 290, posted at 04.08.09 08:51:37 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 288) : nope, i don’t support the blue bulls, i support the valke.

  • Comment 291, posted at 04.08.09 08:55:49 by quota Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 288) :
    You are such a trouble causer.

    You seem a tad bit over-judgmental. :twisted:

  • Comment 292, posted at 04.08.09 08:57:58 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 292) :

    I am NOT! :shock: :lol:

    Hey – if people can be “over-sensitive” I can be a tad bit over-judgemental?? :mrgreen:

    @Baldrick (Comment 290) :

    Ag get back into bed and try getting out the other side! :wink:

  • Comment 293, posted at 04.08.09 09:00:56 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • So, because you accuse someone of being a Bulls supporter because they are overly sensitive (in your eyes), and someone else defends them, they (I) got out on the wrong side of the bed?

    Come on, that’s like when you are 8 and having an argument with someone, and because you’re losing, you say “You’re ugly” to them because you can’t think up anything else.

    You simply have to up your game.

  • Comment 294, posted at 04.08.09 09:04:16 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 290) :

    And…there are ways and there are WAYS that one can disagree with each other..down right rude and attacking I woudl say is not a good way…but then again you all know I am not a fighter…;-)

  • Comment 295, posted at 04.08.09 09:05:15 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • anyone need a drink yet? I know I do! :-)

  • Comment 296, posted at 04.08.09 09:08:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 294) :

    1stly – get your facts straight – I ASKED if he / she was a Bulls supporter…I did no Accusation whatsoever..

    2ndly – I NEVER said he / she was over sensitive – might be JarsonX if I remember correctly – we are NOT the same person (last time I knew anyway)

    3rdly – you can defend who and what you like – if I feel you need to get into a better mood – that is MY OPINION

    4thly – I was not getting into an argument – but since you want it to be one….You’re Ugly! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 297, posted at 04.08.09 09:11:44 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 294) :
    Take it easy there Balders – Ys is one of the good guys…

    And you are coming across a tad over-sensitive now. :mrgreen:

    @robdylan (Comment 296) :
    Man, I havent been involved in a flame war in ages – lots of testosterone floating around lately. :wink:

  • Comment 298, posted at 04.08.09 09:16:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 280) : Oh come off it quota. Have you heard of cause and effect? If we are not allowed to analyse the game and try to pinpoint the causes of good and poor performances then let’s get rid of analysis as a concept in general shall we? No more B & A, no more Rugby365, no more print articles…hell no more Sharksworld. Get real man. Your opinion is that it was the players that in the space of year decided to NOT commit to the gameplan and in the next year came around to Div’s gameplan of ’08. That’s fine. You’re entitled to it. My interpretation of the results and approach is that Div’s new style of play was flawed from the start. This was reflected in our possession and territorial stakes at the time and the fact that anyone with a half decent set of forwards were able to turn the ball over at will. What gets my back up, is the accusations of all and sundry of Div detractors having some kind of cloak and daggers agenda. It’s childish and quite frankly idiotic. All anyone wants to see is a Bok team consistently winning, which is what we have again after an ’08 blip….and again, my interpretation based on HOW we are playing is that Div scrapped his ’08 brainchild and has reverted to a style very similar to ’07 on the advice of senior management and players. I already credited him for doing so right at the START of the season.

  • Comment 299, posted at 04.08.09 09:16:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 297) : Whateva!

  • Comment 300, posted at 04.08.09 09:18:41 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 294) :

    And if you STILL dont get it…and the fact that I use smileys, coz emotion and intentions and the way some things are said in, cannot be “read” in post – tough! Tskkk! :grin:

  • Comment 301, posted at 04.08.09 09:19:47 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 298) : let’s just see how it pans out. I’m not wildly enthusiastic at this point. It just takes one or two inflammatory comments and suddenly everyone is at it.

  • Comment 302, posted at 04.08.09 09:20:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • good morning all

  • Comment 303, posted at 04.08.09 09:22:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 281) : A fire-worshipper is one who will not change their opinions based on anything. I have already explained why I think that Div is not all he is cracked up to be by his backers. BUT I have also acknowledged Div’s prudence in listening to senior management and players and reassessing the gameplan. In doing so, I believe I have proven that I am by no means a fire-worshipper. Last year, Div was an island trying convince everyone to come for a sunny holiday. This year he is not. And congrats to him.

    :razz:

  • Comment 304, posted at 04.08.09 09:23:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 303) : oops :oops:
    seems KSA clicked the “remember me” box last night when he logged on with my laptop …. :roll:

  • Comment 305, posted at 04.08.09 09:24:42 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 304) : As for missing out on something special, I don’t know what you mean by that exactly, but I still choked up when the Boks won the WC and the Proteas won in Aus for the first time. So whatever you’d like to believe, I don’t feel like I am missing out on ANYTHING. :wink:

  • Comment 306, posted at 04.08.09 09:25:47 by klempie Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 300) :

    Great! i see at least we are on the same age-level now..@KSA Shark © (Comment 303) :

    Hey There!

    @KSA Sharkette (Comment 305) :

    And hey there!! ;-)

  • Comment 307, posted at 04.08.09 09:28:01 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 284) : I would never go to a soccer game because

    a) it’s boring as shit
    b) it’s “a game for gentlemen played by hooligans”
    c) soccer players are prima donnas
    d) soccer fans are (generally) yobs the world over

  • Comment 308, posted at 04.08.09 09:29:12 by klempie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 298) : @robdylan (Comment 302) :

    Whats this about war?? ;-)

  • Comment 309, posted at 04.08.09 09:29:40 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 287) : @Big Fish (Comment 298) : And oestrogen! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 310, posted at 04.08.09 09:32:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 299) : What gets my back up, is the accusations of all and sundry of Div detractors having some kind of cloak and daggers agenda.

    Do yourself a favour then, go and find the article which printed verbatim what PDV said in a media conference, and then what the journos chose to print which was, quite clearly, cloak and dagger stuff by the poison pen of certain media people.

    If you can’t see it, you’re very blind dude. Like whenever Keo’s lot print an interview post match, and say “XYZ told Keo” when in fact, XYZ told 100 asembled media.

    Surely you’re not THAT naive?

  • Comment 311, posted at 04.08.09 09:32:20 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 308) : So you don’t get the point that there is no such thing as freedom of speech without consequences?

  • Comment 312, posted at 04.08.09 09:35:39 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 311) : I am not disputing that SOME Div detractors may have an agenda. The point is, most of the backers paint us all with the same brush, which by interpretation seems to be the “Get rid of Div” brush. That was my brush last year. This year my brush is “Right, this year we are winning so I don’t really care how we’re doing it. Let’s just realise that the gameplan is NOT what Div envisaged at the start of his tenure.”

  • Comment 313, posted at 04.08.09 09:38:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 312) : You’re branching off into “political territory” there brother. I’ll follow you if you wish but I can almost guarantee it will result in a ban for me and a warning for you if you haven’t had one for that comment.

  • Comment 314, posted at 04.08.09 09:40:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 311) : Oh and I did read that full transcript. If anything, it strengthened my opinion that Div is a childish idiot.

  • Comment 315, posted at 04.08.09 09:42:06 by klempie Reply

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  • happy happy to CoffeeShopBok;-) & BrotherLou :razz:

    and morning to everyone !

  • Comment 316, posted at 04.08.09 09:43:54 by rekinek Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 314) : Klempie, you really have no idea do you?

    My point was not along racial lines, my point was that Freedom of Speech might be guaranteed in our constitution, but it also carries along with it certain responsibilities.

    So yes, while you hide behind a bill of rights that protects and allows freedom of speech, you conveniently forget that there are certain rules that one must abide by.

    Like at a soccer match, or on a forum such as this.

  • Comment 317, posted at 04.08.09 09:46:38 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 312) : And anyway, I don’t really see what the relevance of the Chiefs/Pirates analogy was. JPS and I were simply stating that the idea that politics and sport don’t mix is unrealistic. We would like that not to be the case but that may never happen. Your soccer analogy was somewhat out of left field.

  • Comment 318, posted at 04.08.09 09:48:13 by klempie Reply

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  • he he he he he , Morning all. Beautifull day.

    Seems like everybody got out of bed on the right foot. :grin:

  • Comment 319, posted at 04.08.09 09:48:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Morning all
    Ahhhh at last some spice, mild but spicy.

    Someones praying Lord..

  • Comment 320, posted at 04.08.09 09:51:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Sharkette (Comment 305) : Hello Mrs Sandshark!

  • Comment 321, posted at 04.08.09 09:52:14 by Rahul Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 317) : Firstly, I said political not racial (although many on this site seem to think the two are one and the same). I’d prefer you not put words in my mouth as I am already on a short leash. Second, there are no “consequences” for SERIOUS infringements of the constitution on sites like Keo et al as it’s practically impossible to police so your point is invalid. I am in no way advocating what goes on on those sites should go on here. There is much scope for discussion of politics in sport which DOESN’T infringe on the Bill of Rights.

  • Comment 322, posted at 04.08.09 09:53:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 319) : Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.
    Not today :neutral:

  • Comment 323, posted at 04.08.09 09:53:00 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 319) :

    I am gonna log out and log in again…maybe this was just a bad dream…;-)

  • Comment 324, posted at 04.08.09 09:54:54 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 279) : looks like it – but just go to the doctor to confirm. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 325, posted at 04.08.09 09:57:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 304) : You know how I felt about PdV and I supported your views, but isn’t a sign of a better(greater) man to make mistakes, learn from them and to adjust. I don’t think in history of SA rugby any coach just took over a team and coached them exactly the way the previous coach did. Yes he made mistakes, and I for one critised him but he learnt from them, he took advise from other(which in my books is a great character strengh) and he adapted. So what if he took advise from JS of VM or FdP. At least he took the advice and adapted.
    For this he should be commended and I don’t think he is as ‘hardegat’ as he was when he started.

    And he doesn’t talk quite as much kak as he used too.

  • Comment 326, posted at 04.08.09 09:58:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 196) : Hey the sites not bad, and I can live with the hypocrisy.

  • Comment 327, posted at 04.08.09 10:02:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 324) : i take it you dislike this ‘experiment’ as much as I do?

  • Comment 328, posted at 04.08.09 10:03:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 304) : @klempie (Comment 299) : you’re obsessed with trying to prove pdv incompetent…who told you senior management & the players changed his mind? Where is your source? He is a coach, he can change his own mind when he see what is happening on the field, he has done it before and it resulted in his u19 baby boks team being undefeated for two consecutive years & some of the players he is coaching now were in that team! “lets just realised that the gameplan is not what Div envisaged” who came up with it then?

    You’re happy with winning but you have to qualify it by pointing out that pdv has nothing to do with why we’re winning, so in fact you’re in cahoots with Gavin Rich, Keo and them who write that “the springboks won DESPiTE their coach”…

    Forget it i’m tired of this, you’re a detractor…enjoy it :D

  • Comment 329, posted at 04.08.09 10:06:22 by quota Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 328) : The problem is that too many people think that a computer and internet connection are a license to say whatever they want and to hell with the consequences. You have rules and while I have tried not to overstep them here (and actually supported them with the whole Bills of rights vs consequences), my theme is that people can’t say what they like and hide behind a law that actually doesn’t protect what it allows.

  • Comment 330, posted at 04.08.09 10:07:46 by Baldrick Reply

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  • What’s up people…

    Didn’t expect to walk into this thread again…

  • Comment 331, posted at 04.08.09 10:07:46 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 326) : We’re singing from the same hymn sheet dude. That’s why I said I congratulated him at the beginning of the season. People should not be crediting him for the TACTICAL changes we have made. Only that he ALLOWED for them. There’s a distinct difference IMO.

    My main gripes with him now are how he is portraying SA Rugby to the rest of the world.

  • Comment 332, posted at 04.08.09 10:08:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 327) : So do I and can I. I’m here aren’t I? :wink:

  • Comment 333, posted at 04.08.09 10:09:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 328) :
    Yeah right, tell me that the 300+ comments arent just a little satisfying. :wink:

  • Comment 334, posted at 04.08.09 10:10:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 329) :

    Good coaches NEVER change their gameplan to suite certain players or the conditions…NEVER! :roll:

  • Comment 335, posted at 04.08.09 10:10:52 by blackshark Reply

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  • PDV…PDV…PDV…PDV..PDV !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 336, posted at 04.08.09 10:11:36 by Charlie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 329) : I can respond exactly the same way. Where is your source that confirms that senior players and management did NOT bring Div to heel. It’s all speculation in the end and you speculate that they didn’t while it makes more sense to me that they did.

  • Comment 337, posted at 04.08.09 10:12:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 334) :

    I think there’d be more satisfying if they were on the Sharks thread… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 338, posted at 04.08.09 10:12:51 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 335) : Graham Henry :?: :roll: :?:

  • Comment 339, posted at 04.08.09 10:13:03 by Charlie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 333) : I see you have been a busy man, hope you had time for a sub 13 minute 5k run.

  • Comment 340, posted at 04.08.09 10:16:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 330) : The fact that I am still here means that I adhere to The Rules even if I don’t agree with them. Again, disagreeing with the rules and laws of the day does not IMPLY that one is wilfully breaking them.

  • Comment 341, posted at 04.08.09 10:18:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 334) :
    If you think that, then you clearly don’t understand why this site was created in the first place.

  • Comment 342, posted at 04.08.09 10:18:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 340) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Actually I have pulled a calf muscle I think. :sad: Don’t know how. Wasn’t running.

  • Comment 343, posted at 04.08.09 10:20:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 332) : Well there is nothing more for me to say….I have Klempie on my side and the PdV fans on my side….not bad for 1 comment :cool: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 344, posted at 04.08.09 10:20:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 342) : I think that was tongue-in-cheek O Sensitive One. ;)

  • Comment 345, posted at 04.08.09 10:20:59 by klempie Reply

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  • Man I feel invigorated this morning! :grin: Where is my challenger Iago? :twisted:

  • Comment 346, posted at 04.08.09 10:22:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 328) :

    Out with it… :!:

    @Baldrick (Comment 330) :

    All within boundaries…it’s what a blog is for – to air your views – but all within boundaries..

  • Comment 347, posted at 04.08.09 10:23:16 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 338) :
    He he, I actually had to go back and see what this thread is about. This is really brilliant, 300+ and still on the topic. Well done all.

  • Comment 348, posted at 04.08.09 10:27:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 334) : not really – because it’s not only about comments. The vast majority of the traffic we get is from people who read, but don’t comment. 300+ comments from the same 6 people having a go at each other might not be what those people want to see…

    But nobody has done anything outside of the rules (yet) so I’m willing to let it go.

  • Comment 349, posted at 04.08.09 10:32:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 349) : that said, there’s been some pretty good debate, though – in-between all the labelling and name-calling.

  • Comment 350, posted at 04.08.09 10:33:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 349) : I’ve had warnings for less than some comments that have been posted on this page. :roll:

  • Comment 351, posted at 04.08.09 10:34:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 351) :

    Ah jinne – stop bitching – just now Baldy woudl think you are at “Our” age level!! :-)

  • Comment 352, posted at 04.08.09 10:36:09 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 344) : Fence sitter! :twisted:

  • Comment 353, posted at 04.08.09 10:37:05 by klempie Reply

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  • Geez – I came for bit of a break on SW and all hell broke lose!! :shock:

    I Love IT!! :twisted:

  • Comment 354, posted at 04.08.09 10:40:45 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 352) :
    You mean old?

  • Comment 355, posted at 04.08.09 10:40:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 351) : you want me to be consistent now? Then you and Sammy wouldn’t lose your “hypocrisy” angle… I’d never do that to you :mrgreen:

  • Comment 356, posted at 04.08.09 10:43:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 353) : I’m not fence sitting. PdV changed and together with that my view of him changed. I wasn’t always a PdV fan, but he definately made some moves in the right direction. And while we’re winning I’m not going to complain too much.

  • Comment 357, posted at 04.08.09 10:45:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 355) :

    :evil: :lol:

    No – I am fighting like an 8 year old, according to Baldy – so he joined my tender age by his ” Whateva” comment and now Klampie is bitching because he is not being treated ” fairly” – I also use to use THAT one when I was 8 (alittle while ago).. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 358, posted at 04.08.09 10:46:14 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 356) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 359, posted at 04.08.09 10:47:52 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 357) : Ek terg net boeta. :wink:

  • Comment 360, posted at 04.08.09 10:48:37 by klempie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 342) : :wink:

  • Comment 361, posted at 04.08.09 10:50:24 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 360) : Ek weet maargat :wink:

  • Comment 362, posted at 04.08.09 10:51:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • See? We can all have a heated, inflammatory debate and still up as friends after. :smile:

  • Comment 363, posted at 04.08.09 10:54:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 362) : Speaking of which…waar is Pensie?

  • Comment 364, posted at 04.08.09 10:55:14 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 356) :
    You use the word angle as if its some base from which I operate, its not, thats a genuine perception.

  • Comment 365, posted at 04.08.09 10:55:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 364) : Is pensie Wes??

  • Comment 366, posted at 04.08.09 10:57:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 335) : that is just a dumb comment…in your mind the all blacks played the game in auckland against aus the same way they played the one in durban, then there’s no point in debating with you then i’m sorry…

    graham henry must be a bad coach in your books then because he changed his tactics to suit the conditions & to try counter the boks pressure play.

    No wonder you support the sharks because your coach doesn’t change his tactics even when ruan is injured & he has to play francois steyn @ pivot, nothing changes in the gameplan of the sharks it stays vas! Dumbest thing i’ve ever heard.

  • Comment 367, posted at 04.08.09 11:01:01 by quota Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 366) : Uhuh. :lol:

  • Comment 368, posted at 04.08.09 11:04:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 367) : Actually, Blackshark was backing you up with sarcasm. It’s quite hilarious that you didn’t pick that up.

  • Comment 369, posted at 04.08.09 11:06:22 by klempie Reply

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  • No wonder you support the sharks because your coach doesn’t change his tactics even when ruan is injured & he has to play francois steyn @ pivot, nothing changes in the gameplan of the sharks it stays vas! Dumbest thing i’ve ever heard.

    ..and on THAT note, I am starting to get a little bit over-sensitive…:-)

  • Comment 370, posted at 04.08.09 11:07:10 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 367) :

    So..what’s YOUR gameplan.. :?:

  • Comment 371, posted at 04.08.09 11:08:51 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 371) : The Valke’s gameplan is to get out of CC Division One.

  • Comment 372, posted at 04.08.09 11:13:29 by klempie Reply

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  • Dang Bulls supporters all over the place these days.

  • Comment 373, posted at 04.08.09 11:14:06 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 372) :

    Talking ’bout his Personal agenda / gameplan… :lol:

    @Salmonoid (Comment 373) :

    Hopefully Baldy does not see that! :wink:

  • Comment 374, posted at 04.08.09 11:16:25 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 371) :
    Clearly, to stir the pot, and probably at someones request.

  • Comment 375, posted at 04.08.09 11:18:41 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • At first it was…
    -PdV is a bad coach because we lost the Tri-Nations… :roll:
    -PdV is not a good coach because we only beat minnows…

    And then we thrashed Australia, and England (who just happened to be the strongest team we faced in the Glory WC of 07)…won a series over the BIL …and dominated NZ and the tune changed to…

    - PdV is not a coach at all…

    What’s next?
    PdV is not even a human being?

    The team is playing well…and WINNING… I’m loving it!!! :mrgreen:

    I just feel sorry for the people who are denying themselves a portion of that joy just because they can’t accept a certain fact…which I will not mention on Sharksworld.

    To each his own.

    BOKKE!

  • Comment 376, posted at 04.08.09 11:19:15 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 351) : Stop whinning. I’ve been banned three times on Keo, and on my first day here, got a warning. Beat that!

  • Comment 377, posted at 04.08.09 11:20:57 by Iago Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 371) : i want to see the valke dominate the currie cup premier division, i’ve got a “drie jaar plan” like loffie, my :D

    As for my “gameplan” i can’t reveal that to all you shark & blou bulle fans, it has to come as a sucker punch!

  • Comment 378, posted at 04.08.09 11:21:04 by quota Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 374) :
    Yssh, forgot about that, but in this instance it was so typical I hope to be forgiven.

  • Comment 379, posted at 04.08.09 11:22:08 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 376) : That is the problem. Some of us do not like Div for facts other than the one that you will not mention on SW…

  • Comment 380, posted at 04.08.09 11:22:22 by klempie Reply

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  • I’m wearing my Matt Giteau jersey this weekend. Win or lose. [email protected] the Boks.

  • Comment 381, posted at 04.08.09 11:23:32 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 377) : My infatuation’s back! :grin:

  • Comment 382, posted at 04.08.09 11:23:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 380) : But that’s not you I guess. That fact is the one bothering you the most.

  • Comment 383, posted at 04.08.09 11:25:05 by Iago Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 375) : Very astute.

  • Comment 384, posted at 04.08.09 11:25:16 by klempie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 367) :

    You gotta learn fast… the :roll: usually indicates a hint of sarcasm…

  • Comment 385, posted at 04.08.09 11:25:59 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 383) : Come, come hunny. Let’s not drag these issues into the gutter. You are shit stirring and I commend you for that. But I believe you are a better shit stirrer than having to resort to that. :wink:

  • Comment 386, posted at 04.08.09 11:26:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 380) :

    I believe someone asked you for a list of those facts – and I haven’t seen one…

  • Comment 387, posted at 04.08.09 11:27:27 by blackshark Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 378) :

    Geez! He can smile?? :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 388, posted at 04.08.09 11:27:33 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 387) : As I said to quota, no one has given a list of facts in support of Div’s competence either. It’s all speculation. The only facts we have are that

    a) The gameplan is completely different to this time last year
    b) The Boks are sweeping all before them.

  • Comment 389, posted at 04.08.09 11:30:23 by klempie Reply

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  • Hie gaat ons alweer…. :roll:

  • Comment 390, posted at 04.08.09 11:31:28 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 389) : Oh and we have the fact that no one will mention on Sharksworld that all Div supporters like to pin on Div detractors.

  • Comment 391, posted at 04.08.09 11:33:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 389) :

    Actually – I can give you 2 facts…

    1. Peter De Villiers is the current Springbok coach.
    2. The Springboks just ran over the All Blacks…twice…

    If you are going to dispute FACT no 1. based on your speculation (a)…then I have no business discussing this with you in the first place.

  • Comment 392, posted at 04.08.09 11:36:21 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 391) : By that I mean that said fact is completely irrelevant for Div detractors such as myself.

  • Comment 393, posted at 04.08.09 11:37:18 by klempie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 392) : Those are both relevant facts yes.

  • Comment 394, posted at 04.08.09 11:38:15 by klempie Reply

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  • Ekskuus – maar julle redeneer nou soos passers…al om julle eie gatte!!

  • Comment 395, posted at 04.08.09 11:41:03 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 392) : a) is not speculation. It is a FACT that Gary Gold came out before the BIL series and said the Boks would be playing more pragmatic rugby than last year. Now I think we can all agree that statements relating to pragmatism are directly linked to tactics yes? We must therefore infer that a change in pragmatism results in a change in gameplan. Therefore there can be no speculation that there is a different gameplan to last year.

  • Comment 396, posted at 04.08.09 11:43:02 by klempie Reply

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  • Hey Rob look, nearly 400. :cool: :roll:
    Your experiment is working.

  • Comment 397, posted at 04.08.09 11:43:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 396) : Fok maar jy kan aangaan en aangaan….ek dink ons moet dit oor n paar biere bespreek…..o gats maar jy drink mos nie :wink:

  • Comment 398, posted at 04.08.09 11:47:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 397) :

    Let me help!! :lol:

  • Comment 399, posted at 04.08.09 11:47:19 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 396) : Of course GG could have been lying.. :roll:

  • Comment 400, posted at 04.08.09 11:47:40 by klempie Reply

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  • YIPPEE! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 401, posted at 04.08.09 11:48:27 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 400) : I mean, he wasn’t under oath or anything. Silly media. They should take all statements from the Bok camp in a court of law. :roll:

  • Comment 402, posted at 04.08.09 11:48:53 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 397) :
    But is it a success.

  • Comment 403, posted at 04.08.09 11:48:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 396) :

    Sorry…

    If you are going to dispute my Fact 1 based on your Fact no 1…then I still have no business discussing this with you…

  • Comment 404, posted at 04.08.09 11:49:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 400) :

    And ..he stole my moment of fame…….:-(

  • Comment 405, posted at 04.08.09 11:50:11 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 397) : With Klempie on a roll we might make it a 1000….we just need more okes with the energy( and bandwith) to continue….Maybe we should work in shifts….Who’s taking the first hour :roll: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 406, posted at 04.08.09 11:50:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 398) : Rob, I expect some sort of commission. :wink:

  • Comment 407, posted at 04.08.09 11:50:49 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 406) : I nominate Blackshark

  • Comment 408, posted at 04.08.09 11:51:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 404) :

    If you are also planning to dispute my Fact 1 – based on rumours…and completely disregard the denial of those rumours by guys who actually play for the team ( John, Victor, Frans)…then…

  • Comment 409, posted at 04.08.09 11:52:48 by blackshark Reply

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  • Hey where was that thread on mushrooms, frogs and hallucinogens. I liked that one, time for a revisit.
    Some of you come with me and lick the peace frog.

  • Comment 410, posted at 04.08.09 11:54:10 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 404) : You are jumping to conclusions. Let me revise our list of facts. In no particular order:

    1) The gameplan is completely different to this time last year
    2) The Boks are sweeping all before them.
    3) Peter De Villiers is the current Springbok coach.
    4) The Springboks just ran over the All Blacks…twice…
    5) The fact that no one wants to mention on SW (IMO superfluous and irrelevant)

    None of these facts contradict each other and therefore any possible argument based on them would be valid. I studied first order predicate logic. You can take my word for it.

  • Comment 411, posted at 04.08.09 11:54:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 386) : I have never supported the Springboks. Fact. Why would I start now. You do not know me. So your really ought not to make assumptions.

  • Comment 412, posted at 04.08.09 11:56:01 by Iago Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 409) : I am not. I already said Fact 1 was a fact. I’m not disputing that fact.

  • Comment 413, posted at 04.08.09 11:56:35 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 410) : Sound lekker

  • Comment 414, posted at 04.08.09 11:56:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 410) :
    Ok cancel that suggestion – if we are going to make 1000 then we all need to be focused right here.

  • Comment 415, posted at 04.08.09 11:57:03 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 412) : When did I make assumptions about you supporting the Boks? I did no such thing. I saying that you’re a more talented shit stirrer than one who would accuse detractors of not liking him because of the fact that no one mentions on SW. <3

  • Comment 416, posted at 04.08.09 11:59:41 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 413) :

    So what are you disputing Klemps…?

  • Comment 417, posted at 04.08.09 11:59:50 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 411) : What is your beef with Pieter de Villiers?

  • Comment 418, posted at 04.08.09 12:01:01 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 412) :

    Go back and see on which comment of yours he commented…and then launch a new attack.. :roll:

    Sheesshhh Poor Klemps…I think the girl just dumped you… :lol: (Actually I believe lago and quota might have links like and enganement ring or sumthing..) :lol: :wink:

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  • @blackshark (Comment 417) : That Div is the mastermind behind our new gameplan.

  • Comment 420, posted at 04.08.09 12:07:15 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 418) : Briefly, I think he’s dumbass.

  • Comment 421, posted at 04.08.09 12:09:16 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 418) :

    You Cannot be serious?? Did you read NOTHIng of the previous 417 posts??

    @Salmonoid (Comment 415) :

    I think we’re gonna hit 1000 much quicker than anticipated…Klemps can just go and copy and paste all his postings…;-)

  • Comment 422, posted at 04.08.09 12:10:06 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 420) :

    And what is that based on?

  • Comment 423, posted at 04.08.09 12:10:18 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 419) : Nah. Iago’s with me. ;)

  • Comment 424, posted at 04.08.09 12:12:31 by klempie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 423) : Speculation.

  • Comment 425, posted at 04.08.09 12:13:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 424) :

    You figure?? :shock:

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  • @blackshark (Comment 423) : @klempie (Comment 425) :

    Ok here comes the next 400 posts….are you ready people we are staring from scratch :lol:

  • Comment 427, posted at 04.08.09 12:16:38 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 416) : But that’s the real reason thou isn’t it. All the pussy footing aside.@Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 419) : Who are you, his scrub friend that rides in the front passenger seat. Or do you think Klempie can’t handle his own?

  • Comment 428, posted at 04.08.09 12:17:35 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 425) :

    I see.

    We have nothing further to discuss on this issue. Have a great day.

  • Comment 429, posted at 04.08.09 12:17:38 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 426) : She doesn’t know it yet. :)

  • Comment 430, posted at 04.08.09 12:18:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 421) : Do you know the man personally? Because if your crit is based on Rugby, then it makes no sense when one considers his performance as coach.

    I think Danie Craven is an ass. But that is based on well documented history.

  • Comment 431, posted at 04.08.09 12:19:59 by Iago Reply

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  • man, it’s going to take forever to clean this all up

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  • @Iago (Comment 428) : No it isn’t. You’re making assumptions about which is ironic considering that you accused me of doing the same thing when I didn’t even make any comments about you supporting the Boks.

  • Comment 433, posted at 04.08.09 12:21:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 429) : You too china. :cool:

  • Comment 434, posted at 04.08.09 12:22:13 by klempie Reply

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  • ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

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  • @Iago (Comment 428) :

    I think best I reserve myself and not comment… :lol:

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  • If Voldy is to be believed this is the Bok team for Saturday……..no Ricki

    Morne Steyn’s recording-breaking feats at King’s Park has ensured that he starts at flyhalf against Australia.

    More to follow…

    Springboks – 15 Frans Steyn, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (c), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
    Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Jannie du Plessis, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Andries Bekker, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Adi Jacobs, 22 Wynand Olivier

  • Comment 437, posted at 04.08.09 12:25:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 431) : Labelling someone a dumbass is completely subjective. I think he is. You think he isn’t. Most people have their own criteria for making such a call. Consequently, one does not have to personally know labelled individual in order to make the call. Let’s not let this small issue wreck our love in its infancy shall we? :wink:

  • Comment 438, posted at 04.08.09 12:25:57 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 432) : Keep a tab on how many of mine you remove. I’d like to know.

  • Comment 439, posted at 04.08.09 12:28:05 by klempie Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 436) : Don’t give up so easily, protect yourself

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  • @klempie (Comment 433) : Many bloggers here have given valid arguments as to why Pdv is doing a great job in his first year as coach. He has already achieved feats that others in the past have never achieved. People are feeling positive and the Boks are playing well, and despite this your stance is, and let me quote: “Briefly, I think he’s dumbass.” Now your reasons for the hate, are clearly not rugga related, so it must be something else. Hence my question. What is your beef with Pdv. Bottom line, I’ve read your warra warra, and the only clear thing that comes through is that your beloved rugga should never have been coached by a “b-ack man”.

    I enjoy the Boks winning just for that reason and people like you. Because as much as you are enjoying the victory, it pisses you off at the same time.

  • Comment 441, posted at 04.08.09 12:29:07 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 438) : Did you personally know Danie Craven? :???:

  • Comment 442, posted at 04.08.09 12:29:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 436) : Don;t kum bah yah. Go for it. Lord knows this site could use a nice rumble.

  • Comment 443, posted at 04.08.09 12:30:30 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 441) : Oh dear. Looks like that’s you gone. :cry:

  • Comment 444, posted at 04.08.09 12:31:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 442) : I know he said no black man will ever be a Springbok. That’s all I need to know about him, and the nice thing is Pdv doing so well is a great big f-you to him too.

  • Comment 445, posted at 04.08.09 12:32:16 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 444) : I hardly expected to make the week. Reality is that I don’t kum bah yah. :wink:

  • Comment 446, posted at 04.08.09 12:35:05 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 445) : That’s against the Rules so I will not respond.

  • Comment 447, posted at 04.08.09 12:36:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 438) : So its’ just his LOOKS then? Thought so.

  • Comment 448, posted at 04.08.09 12:37:13 by Iago Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 447) : It’s against the rules to tell the truth about SA’s great “FATHER OF RUGBY”. Still rugby related Klempie, just the part some people want to hide.

  • Comment 449, posted at 04.08.09 12:39:19 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 441) : but you stll support the Aussies

  • Comment 450, posted at 04.08.09 12:39:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 445) : Cheers lago , nice chatting with you.

  • Comment 451, posted at 04.08.09 12:41:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 448) : Again, that’s against the Rules so I will not respond.

  • Comment 452, posted at 04.08.09 12:41:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 451) : A pity. I did not expect that out of her. :sad:

  • Comment 453, posted at 04.08.09 12:42:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 450) : I enjoy good rugby make no mistake. Pdv is doing well. I support anyone against the Boks. Makes no difference.

  • Comment 454, posted at 04.08.09 12:42:53 by Iago Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 451) : Cheers.@klempie (Comment 452) : You don;t have to.

  • Comment 455, posted at 04.08.09 12:44:51 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 454) : So before you get banned, where did your dislike for the Boks start

  • Comment 456, posted at 04.08.09 12:46:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Right. Off to lunch.

  • Comment 457, posted at 04.08.09 12:46:28 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 448) : @Iago (Comment 441) : uncalled for and against the rules. Only warning

  • Comment 458, posted at 04.08.09 12:47:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 458) : WHAT????

  • Comment 459, posted at 04.08.09 12:48:26 by klempie Reply

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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 419) :
    Thats not their only link.

  • Comment 460, posted at 04.08.09 12:49:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 459) : :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 461, posted at 04.08.09 12:49:22 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 458) : Sammy’s gonna have a field day with that one. :lol:

  • Comment 462, posted at 04.08.09 12:49:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 447) : @klempie (Comment 453) : Klempie showing a lot of restraint…Ons is trots op jou

  • Comment 463, posted at 04.08.09 12:50:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 456) : Birth, and upbringing. Remember the excluded masses. The part of SA rugby history so not allowed on this blog.

  • Comment 464, posted at 04.08.09 12:50:42 by Iago Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 463) : Dankie boetie. :cool:

  • Comment 465, posted at 04.08.09 12:51:24 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 458) : I was wondering where you were?

  • Comment 466, posted at 04.08.09 12:52:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 464) : There are alot of parts of SA Rugby that are not allowed on SW…mostly political…both past and present.

  • Comment 467, posted at 04.08.09 12:52:55 by klempie Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 464) : and you never had a change of heart since things started changing?

  • Comment 468, posted at 04.08.09 12:54:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 468) : Careful boet. Don’t rise to it.

  • Comment 469, posted at 04.08.09 12:55:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 458) :Go for it. Be consistent. Your rule is to pretend that this issue does not exist and does not shape views, when we face it everyday of our lives. You want a free blog for an exchange of ideas and debate, yet you won;t allow the real issue at the heart of most Saffas learning to better understand eachother, or for foreigners to get what we are about as a nation.

    @klempie (Comment 462) : Well done Klempie, you rebel you. Stuck to the “rules” like a trooper……. ” Ons is trots op jou”

  • Comment 470, posted at 04.08.09 12:55:44 by Iago Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 468) : Not once. Let’s see 1947 – 1994 = 47yrs. We are only at 15 years. I need another 32 or more.

  • Comment 471, posted at 04.08.09 12:57:42 by Iago Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 470) :
    ‘@klempie (Comment 462) : Well done Klempie, you rebel you. Stuck to the “rules” like a trooper……. ” Ons is trots op jou’

    You don’t do sarcasm well do you?

  • Comment 472, posted at 04.08.09 12:58:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 470) : don’t put words into my mouth about what I want and don’t want. You don’t know me (or my site) well enough to do that. You are welcome here as long as you play by my rules. If you are not prepared to, you can go and find another site to air your views.

    This point is not negotiable. Ball is in your court.

  • Comment 473, posted at 04.08.09 12:59:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 472) : I see

  • Comment 474, posted at 04.08.09 12:59:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 440) :

    i Believe in the saying : ‘ Give a man enough rope..” :wink:

    and i prefer not to talk to people who cannot actually read…you know they make the assumption that someone said something because they want to fight the battle inside of them..and then attack anyone that says anything remotely close …and then make their name gat, because the commented on the wrong post..But that will not deter them…oh no – To thicked skinned..

    Obviously she asked who I am..well, Hun, if she does not know THAT by now – she sure as hell does not belong here! :cool:

    So F(*&(& Kum-Bay Ya yourself@!

  • Comment 475, posted at 04.08.09 12:59:48 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Iago (Comment 470) : I believe the best shit shit stirrers are able to cause controversy without actually doing anything wrong. I will be here tomorrow. You won’t. 1-0 to me. :cool:

  • Comment 476, posted at 04.08.09 13:02:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 473) : No it’s not. This is your site. Not mine. I have to go gents. See if you can take the thread to 500.

  • Comment 477, posted at 04.08.09 13:02:09 by Iago Reply

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  • Its all that other great KZN rugby mans fault – Oregon Hoskins.

  • Comment 478, posted at 04.08.09 13:02:22 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 437) :

    I can live with that squad…

    There’s an article where Pdv says Morne needs more work…will someone put that up for us??? :smile:

    I’m tired of this thread now… :neutral:

  • Comment 479, posted at 04.08.09 13:05:37 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Iago (Comment 477) : I don’t want to be keo.

    I’ve mentioned that a number of times already

  • Comment 480, posted at 04.08.09 13:07:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 437) : @blackshark (Comment 479) :

    Shit can you believe Voldy got the tea, wrong AGAIN. Second time in 2 weeks. Idiots

  • Comment 481, posted at 04.08.09 13:10:37 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 481) : I’m asleep on the job today :)

  • Comment 482, posted at 04.08.09 13:12:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Now THAT was fun…innit??

  • Comment 483, posted at 04.08.09 13:24:55 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 483) : sure… why don’t you all wait until I have real work to do and then pull a stunt like this :)

  • Comment 484, posted at 04.08.09 13:30:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) (Comment 483) : I think we should at least get to the 500, don’t you think?

  • Comment 485, posted at 04.08.09 13:31:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 484) : We take a gap like Adi on a good day :lol:

  • Comment 486, posted at 04.08.09 13:32:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 485) : I agree. Rob have we set any records today?

  • Comment 487, posted at 04.08.09 13:32:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 487) : I’m sure we have, but not the way Rob would have liked :???:

  • Comment 488, posted at 04.08.09 13:34:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 484) :

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    @Pokkel (Comment 486) :

    ;-)

  • Comment 489, posted at 04.08.09 13:35:01 by Prof. Ice (Thunder Horse) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 487) : traffic is down, so no records that I care about

  • Comment 490, posted at 04.08.09 13:35:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 490) : So WP doesn’t keep a track of highest usage thread etc? :???:

  • Comment 491, posted at 04.08.09 13:41:41 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 491) : Just keep going 500 isn’t far off.

  • Comment 492, posted at 04.08.09 13:44:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 492) : Who will get there?

  • Comment 493, posted at 04.08.09 13:46:15 by klempie Reply

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  • Will it be klemps, Ice, Pokkel or Rob? Or god forbid, Iago?

  • Comment 494, posted at 04.08.09 13:46:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 491) : So how was lunch? Don’t worry your friend Lago will probably also be back after lunch.

  • Comment 495, posted at 04.08.09 13:46:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 495) : Whats the prize?

  • Comment 496, posted at 04.08.09 13:48:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Shall I dare say it….Dragons

  • Comment 497, posted at 04.08.09 13:49:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 495) : Haven’t had any. Been too busy with UK support and warming Iago’s bum.

  • Comment 498, posted at 04.08.09 13:49:54 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 497) : Damn to early :mrgreen:

  • Comment 499, posted at 04.08.09 13:50:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • 500??

  • Comment 500, posted at 04.08.09 13:52:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 500) : Ok enough farting around. Back to work for me. Cheers all.

  • Comment 501, posted at 04.08.09 13:53:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • “Ruan is fit and available for selection,” De Villiers told rugby365.com on Monday as the Springboks hosted a coaching clinic in Wellington, in front of hundreds of school children from the surrounding areas.

    “The guys that were in the position before will battle to get back in the team.

    “Even a guy like Adrian Jacobs, who was in the driving seat, will struggle to get back in. It’s actually good to know that our second-line guys are just as good if they are given the responsibility,”he said.

    Despite his phenomenal showing last Saturday, De Villiers stressed that Steyn is far from the complete package.

    “Morne can still get the backline away a lot faster and he can also try to create a lot more space,” the Bok coach explained.

    “The fact that he has a brilliant boot does not blind us that he’s playing total rugby. But we know what he can do with the boot.”

    A victory at Newlands will place the Boks in healthy position on the Tri-Nations standings, before they embark on the Australasian leg of the tournament.However, De Villiers says they still have a lot of work to do over the next few weeks, especially decision-making on the pitch..

    “I’m not trying to get a perfect team. We just want to win no matter if we win ugly,” he said.

    “The situation changes from week to week but we are 60 percent where we want to be in terms of decision making.

    “There were times [against the All Blacks] that we made good decisions but there were times that we let ourselves down as well. So we need to make sure we grow in that area.”

  • Comment 502, posted at 04.08.09 13:53:28 by blackshark Reply

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  • Cool. We’re done with this thread. I still wanna know how many of my posts you delete Rob.

  • Comment 503, posted at 04.08.09 13:54:06 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 491) : it’s not this one…

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  • @robdylan (Comment 504) : :sad:

  • Comment 505, posted at 04.08.09 14:07:29 by klempie Reply

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  • For how long does a comment await moderation?

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 506) : it is going to be deleted and you know why.

  • Comment 507, posted at 04.08.09 14:20:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 506) : That’s a good point. No awaiting moderations come up on my version which means if Rob has finished then I got through completely unscathed! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 508, posted at 04.08.09 14:20:58 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 507) : rob, i have some ideas for this weekends game, i will be able to write a match report but other things i want to discuss with you

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  • @war1 (Comment 509) : I am on MSN now

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  • @robdylan (Comment 508) :
    I was trying to help set the boundaries for the protagonists.
    Stank vir dank.

  • Comment 511, posted at 04.08.09 14:29:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 511) : well, you have discovered that they haven’t moved at all :)

  • Comment 512, posted at 04.08.09 14:37:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 508) : Spectacular effort really considering my opposition. :cool:

  • Comment 513, posted at 04.08.09 14:51:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 513) : you angling for a scooby snack or something?

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 512) :
    Thats why it was necessary for me to help them out.

  • Comment 515, posted at 04.08.09 15:13:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 514) : Scooby snack, scooby snack. That’s a street word right? Sorry dawg but I ain’t down with the smack.

  • Comment 516, posted at 04.08.09 15:16:15 by klempie Reply

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  • OK seems there are numerous definitions. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scooby+snack :???:

  • Comment 517, posted at 04.08.09 15:20:52 by klempie Reply

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  • And in other breaking news, Capetonian batsman Jonathan Trott has been called up to the English cricket squad.
    He holds a British passport for those that were wondering.

    The plundering continues.

  • Comment 518, posted at 04.08.09 15:23:19 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 518) : He’s already played ODIs for them if I’m not mistaken. :???:

  • Comment 519, posted at 04.08.09 15:25:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 516) : have you never watched Scoobie Doo?

  • Comment 520, posted at 04.08.09 15:28:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 519) : http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/47623.html

    My mistkake. Was T20s.

  • Comment 521, posted at 04.08.09 15:28:31 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 520) : Maybe half an episode. Too painful for words.

  • Comment 522, posted at 04.08.09 15:29:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 520) : that is the best cartoon imho, especially the older ones where you see something in the background change colour then you know it is going to move, classic stuff! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 523, posted at 04.08.09 15:34:24 by war1 Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 518) : Anyway, 4 Saffers in the team now including KP even though he is injured. :twisted:

  • Comment 524, posted at 04.08.09 15:34:36 by klempie Reply

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  • Been awhile since I post here (Ons Bloedworse kruip weg na saterdag) but have to congrat Rob on a very good article.

    Myself did not agree with a lot of things and had my suspicions about Snor. But have turn into one of his biggest supporters since he took the job.

    I have cop myself also a lot of flek backing him on TSF and have been called Puppet, cloating and a lot of things backing him.

    For me a good coach is not judge on what he tells the media or the media interprets what he try and tell the in Afrikaans but more for what his team do on the field and making them a close units, identifying young talent, not afraid for hard work, exct

    Snor show the right signs for me as a coach, I love his old school manner of coaching and I love the way he backs his players and he’ll be the first one to give them the accolades.

    He went the long and hard way to be coach and those thinking he is a bad coach, do it on your own peril.

    He havent disappoint me one bit thus far and living in Paarl I saw him attending Paarl Gyms U11 rugby team twice and cricket team once, mixing with the kids and a humble person talking to everyone in Paarl Maal or where ever he goes.

    I respect him as a person, he’ll return everytime to Paarl and still be our Pietertjie, and that say a lot of the person he is. If you want a flashy coach, he is not your guy, if you want a coach that know his job, he is your guy.

    Winning or losing I back the Bokke as a unit and the coach is part of it.

  • Comment 525, posted at 04.08.09 16:24:38 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • My last word on PdV….if we lose against the Wobblies on Saturday because Brossow gets injured early and we don’t have a replacement fetcher…I WILL have a go at him….We have at least 3 players in the subs that we don’t really need. Chilliboy,Bekker and Ricky…any one of the players I mentioned could have been replaced by another decent loosie

  • Comment 526, posted at 04.08.09 16:25:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 525) : Winning or losing I back the Bokke as a unit and the coach is part of it

    Fokkit Oom I was chatting to a dude last week and I said just that, but in a longer less cool way.
    Wish I had gone with that.

  • Comment 527, posted at 04.08.09 16:34:10 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 526) : You’re right Luke Watson is in great form & he had better stats than Brussouw in the S14, he should be there as cover should the aussie take out Brussel Sprout!

  • Comment 528, posted at 04.08.09 17:00:45 by quota Reply

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  • Yawn

  • Comment 529, posted at 04.08.09 17:08:18 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 529) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 530, posted at 04.08.09 17:10:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 531) : Time to hit the road.
    I guess you can feel satisfied with your day at the office. :lol: .

  • Comment 531, posted at 04.08.09 17:23:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 286) : I didnt attack you or your opinion, i just voiced mine. But I’ll apollogise if i offended you. I think it was a misunderstanding that lead to a less appropriate response and therefore i will rather be the lessor man than start a fight or argument that has no place on this site. So lets put it behind us. Welcome to Sharksworld, i hope things will be more pleasant from now on.

  • Comment 532, posted at 04.08.09 18:17:43 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 532) : thanks for being the bigger man.

    I trust we’ll all be good friends after this.

  • Comment 533, posted at 04.08.09 18:22:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • not having daytime access sucks. I miss all the fun. :evil:

  • Comment 534, posted at 04.08.09 18:24:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 532) : Don’t worry mate. He seems to be a bit sensitive.

  • Comment 535, posted at 04.08.09 18:34:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 228) : Sorry my mistake….I didnt mean to give the impression that I think that PDV is “the good guy” now. I think that he is useless as a head coach for the bokke….just remember that both Morne Steyn and Heinrich Brussouw stood no chance of making the first 15…untill Sckalk and Ruan got injured/banned. Those two would STILL be in the starting line up even if they had bad form. Dont believe me….just look at Panic Mechanic…apparently his 3 mins on the park last week “proved” that he deserves his place in the 22. Over Wynand Olivier..come on!!!!!

    PDV has been hawled over the coals BIG TIME…and since then we have seen the change. There are much better coaches than him..Jake White, Heyneke Meyer….

    But he is our coach so I do try to keep my ranting about him to a minimum.

  • Comment 536, posted at 04.08.09 18:35:04 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 534) : Have a read. I managed to stir kak without getting a single post removed. Rob’s had to clean out some other people’s kak though. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 537, posted at 04.08.09 18:35:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 536) : WOHOHOHOHOHOHO!!! Round 4 coming up! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 538, posted at 04.08.09 18:36:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 528) : Watson is only good enough to play provincial rugby….he doesn’t have BMT.

  • Comment 539, posted at 04.08.09 18:37:26 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 538) : Yeah…my day has been a boring…;) How was the wedding? Did they let you watch the rugby?

  • Comment 540, posted at 04.08.09 18:38:35 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 539) : Careful of quota. He bites. :wink:

  • Comment 541, posted at 04.08.09 18:38:54 by klempie Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 540) : No. :( And to top it off my flight was delayed the following night from 18.45 to 23.45. :roll:

  • Comment 542, posted at 04.08.09 18:40:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 537) : does it surprise you that I only removed 1 single post?

  • Comment 543, posted at 04.08.09 18:41:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 536) :

    I think you are 100% spot on regarding Ruan and Schalk. id have been pissed off about Schalk becasue he IS way out of form. Ruan however is in form but unfortunately injured at the moment.

    For me another sign of PdV being a good coach is the fact that he changed his gameplan to suite his flyhalf. IMO had Ruan been the flyhalf we would still have run the ball rather than drop bombs on the ABs.

  • Comment 544, posted at 04.08.09 18:41:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 543) : :shock:

  • Comment 545, posted at 04.08.09 18:44:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 539) :

    The only big thing about Puke is his head. And his supporters WILL now of course be calling for him to be a Bok coz he is having a good CC. :cry:

  • Comment 546, posted at 04.08.09 18:44:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Geez, i didnt read everything on this topic, but its amasing how a few small words can stir up so much emotion

  • Comment 547, posted at 04.08.09 18:45:08 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 547) : Thanks bro. You’re too kind. :lol:

  • Comment 548, posted at 04.08.09 18:46:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 543) :

    He seems quite shocked by it :lol:

    And I bet he will be even more shocked to know that it wasn’t ANY of Quota, Lago or his comment that was removed. :lol:

  • Comment 549, posted at 04.08.09 18:47:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Well, I will probably not see you guys laters (well not on this thread anyway) as I’m off home where Vodacom’s signal and thus bandwidth it kak. Enjoy KSA. :cool:

  • Comment 550, posted at 04.08.09 18:48:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 548) :

    Your spoon is in the mail. :lol:

  • Comment 551, posted at 04.08.09 18:48:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 549) : Was only Sammy’s then, which truly ID unbelievable considering what I’ve had removed. :roll: It just adds fuel to the argument that Rob has a thing for me. :wink:

  • Comment 552, posted at 04.08.09 18:49:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 551) : Spoon, spoon. First scooby snacks and now spoons. I don’t get the spoon thing?

  • Comment 553, posted at 04.08.09 18:50:31 by klempie Reply

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  • :cry: @klempie (Comment 550) :

    I an’t gonna bother reading through it all. :sad:

  • Comment 554, posted at 04.08.09 18:51:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 553) :

    The “world’s greatest Stirrer” wooden spoon. :razz:

  • Comment 555, posted at 04.08.09 18:52:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 553) : a spoon for stirring :wink:

  • Comment 556, posted at 04.08.09 18:52:43 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 554) : You’re missing out. Even Rob acknowledged there was some good debate in there.

  • Comment 557, posted at 04.08.09 18:52:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 544) : Yeah not disputing Ruan’s form in anything elses except his kicking…unfortunately….the game would have been VERY different had the kicks not been successful…..We need a dedicated kicker.

  • Comment 558, posted at 04.08.09 18:53:05 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 555) : @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 556) : Ah! :cool: Oh wait it’s wooden. :cry:

  • Comment 559, posted at 04.08.09 18:53:38 by klempie Reply

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  • Right now I’m outta here. Ciao.

  • Comment 560, posted at 04.08.09 18:55:59 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 560) :

    Cheers

  • Comment 561, posted at 04.08.09 19:02:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 558) :

    The point I a trying to make that though is that PdV (the good coach that he is :wink: ) has used a different flyhalf and realising that the guy can’t run has adapted the Boks’ gameplan.

    At some stage in the game around the 50-60min mark if i recall correctly they showed Steyns stats and he had kicked more times than he had run or passed combined. At that stage he had gained 32m through runs and Stransky commented on how good that was, but I digress.

    The point (for me :wink: ) is that PdV was criticised for sticking to his gameplan that would never work. Now that he has changed it becasue his playmaker is injured, nobody is praising him for this change.

  • Comment 562, posted at 04.08.09 19:06:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 532) : that’s cool bra, happy blogging :grin:

  • Comment 563, posted at 04.08.09 19:20:46 by quota Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 562) : you’re wrong, the senior management & the players changed it & he allowed. if you want to give him credit, laud him for getting out of the way & allowing the real rugby brains to orchestrate the two back to back victories…pdv doesn’t have the cognitive abilitiy to come up with the gameplan used on saturday, he is useless.

  • Comment 564, posted at 04.08.09 19:26:48 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 564) :

    Hey I think I have found on of those detractors that I refered to earlier who believe John and Victoria are the coaches in the side.

  • Comment 565, posted at 04.08.09 19:30:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 564) :
    Read the last line in my comment # @KSA Shark © (Comment 228) : :razz:

    Deep down

  • Comment 566, posted at 04.08.09 19:34:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 565) : “earier”?

  • Comment 567, posted at 04.08.09 19:41:47 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 567) :

    Look again. :razz:

  • Comment 568, posted at 04.08.09 19:46:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Morne Steyn and Heinrich Brussouw stood no chance of making the first 15

    I agree that Schalk was kept in the starting 15 for way longer than most of us liked.

    But let me ask you – if Jake white was the coach – do you think Brussow would’ve even been called up to the Bok squad?

  • Comment 569, posted at 05.08.09 08:11:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 564) : Thats really what I think too…..If PDV REALLY had his way he would have played the same game plan as the AB’s

  • Comment 570, posted at 05.08.09 08:22:13 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 570) :
    Its almost impossible to say what a previous coach would do but going on history I think the answer would be a resounding YES. He did pick Luke Watson so I think it is fair to say that the far superior Brussow would also have been called up. :wink:

  • Comment 571, posted at 05.08.09 08:31:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 553) :
    Sweet, did RobbieD remove one of my remarks, and that was because I mentioned what shouldn’t be posted here. By the way the original article I was referring too was posted on this very site before as a separate thread for comment by one in the inner circle.
    Oh the hypocrisy!!!

  • Comment 572, posted at 05.08.09 08:38:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • morning morning, theres a cool Q & A with jmh on the sharks site

  • Comment 573, posted at 05.08.09 08:54:31 by willa Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 572) :
    Would you like a kleenex?

  • Comment 574, posted at 05.08.09 09:05:24 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 571) :
    :smile:

    But it’s possible to say Morne and Brussow stood no chance of making it to the squad – despite being selected – yep…makes a lot of sense…

  • Comment 575, posted at 05.08.09 09:06:52 by blackshark Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 574) : Just read it. Great.

  • Comment 576, posted at 05.08.09 09:13:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 573) :

    Nice.

    Would’ve liked to know which position he prefers..but anyway…

  • Comment 577, posted at 05.08.09 09:15:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 576) :

    The comment numbers are screwed now – all because of you… :lol:

  • Comment 578, posted at 05.08.09 09:17:44 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 575) :
    I’m deply wounded, mortified in fact, – send me a box, tripple ply will do.

  • Comment 579, posted at 05.08.09 09:18:13 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 579) :
    Sorry, well, then for his lack of good judgment, rob should go back and renumber them all, one by one. :lol:

  • Comment 580, posted at 05.08.09 09:21:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • PdV for president. :twisted:

  • Comment 581, posted at 05.08.09 09:30:37 by McLovin Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 573) : This isn’t THE SHARKS site???? :wink:

  • Comment 582, posted at 05.08.09 09:44:57 by Rahul Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 582) :

  • Comment 583, posted at 05.08.09 09:45:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 583) :
    This is THE SANITISED SHARKS SITE, mind you so is the other one.

  • Comment 584, posted at 05.08.09 09:47:47 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 584) : :lol: Not so sure considering this thread…

  • Comment 585, posted at 05.08.09 09:49:24 by Rahul Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 582) : @Salmonoid (Comment 584) : meant to have added +1

  • Comment 586, posted at 05.08.09 09:49:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Rahul (Comment 586) :
    Pah, I was a victim of robs sanitising efforts, although there were far worse insinuations and innuendos flying around.

  • Comment 587, posted at 05.08.09 09:56:53 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Hehehehehe

    One thing about PDV, he sure raises passions on both sides of the fence

  • Comment 588, posted at 05.08.09 10:15:53 by Ollie Reply

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  • Since I am fairly new to the site…what is it “that should be mentioned” on this site? Just for future reference…

  • Comment 589, posted at 05.08.09 10:21:03 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 589) : http://www.sharksworld.co.za/the-rules/

  • Comment 590, posted at 05.08.09 10:25:04 by robdylan Reply
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