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Front row problems for Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 17 Aug 2009 at 16:32
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The very last thing the Sharks need heading into this weekend’s crunch match with Griquas is further upheavals in the front row, but it looks like that’s exactly what they’ll get.

The scrum was the one area that didn’t look particularly good against the Lions on Saturday and coach John Plumtree admitted in an interview on News24 that he had some concerns about the front row and that Pat Cilliers wasn’t really enjoying himself much at tighthead at the moment. To make matters worse, Deon Carstens has been playing with an injury and hasn’t been his usual destructive self at scrum time.

Jannie du Plessis did well to steady the ship when he came on against the Lions, but along with Odwa Ndungane and Ryan Kankowski, he is unlikely to be available to the Sharks this weekend. All three will depart with the Springboks on Monday ahead of their Tri-Nations tour to Australia and New Zealand. Cilliers himself is apparently battling a hamstring injury, while it is unknown at this stage whether Carstens’ injury was in any way exacerbated against the Lions.

Worst case scenario would involve losing both for this weekend’s game, leading to a front row comprising two under 21 props alongside hooker Craig Burden – himself not noted for being an experienced scrummager. Burden is understood to be nursing a bout of flu, just to make matters somewhat worse, if that’s even possible. Wiehahn Herbst would appear odds-on to start at tighthead prop, with Dale Chadwick sure to come into the squad if Cilliers is ruled out. If both Carstens and Cilliers are deemed unfit to play, then somebody like Sabelo Nhlapo may well get a look-in, with both Chadwick and Herbst brought into the run-on team.

Keegan Daniel will come in at eight in place of Kankowski, with Justin Downey sure to crack the nod in he number 19 jersey. Either Chris Jordaan or Luzuko Vulindlu will come in for Ndungane on the right wing, while there are apparently also some doubts over Riaan Swanepoel’s fitness. The good form showed by Monty Dumond, though, will be a relief, as a fit-again Juan Hernández could always take over from Swanepoel at centre if required.



31 Comments

  • I would Rather Put Hernandez in For Strauss… Jordaan for Odwa!! And as for the scrums we must just make sure we hold on to ball properly and capitalise when opportunity presents itself!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.08.09 16:45:18 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 1) : Strauss is so good on defence – and so crap on attack. Poor oke.

    Maybe he should become a flanker.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.08.09 16:51:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hopefully Jordaan has learnt to tackle a player away from the tryline, not over it.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.08.09 16:52:53 by CapeShark Reply
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  • haha very true i agree 100% with you… Strauss can tackle but man ive never seen that guy ever make a line break! So What do you Think of Pat Lambie there at the u21s?

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.08.09 16:53:39 by Miguel Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 3) : haha ja but Jordaan is one exciting ball runner he just needs a longer run and some experience under is belt…. loads of talent in that guy

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.08.09 16:55:04 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 4) : that kid is going to be great. Just wish he were bigger, but you can’t have everything.

    Next Bok flyhalf great, maybe?

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.08.09 17:04:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : He definitely has the talent and he is a goal kicker of note… he was on song on Saturday and i was seriously made to sit up and take note… the size will come remember Frans Steyn when he just startd! But he musnt get to big and lose his evasiveness!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.08.09 17:07:03 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 7) : true. He’ll never be as tall as Steyn, though :-)

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.08.09 07:43:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Was having just that conversation with a mate yesterday, I reckon if you’re good enough, you’re tall enough. Kid has a big boot and plenty BMT and seems to do very little, if anything, wrong. Scrumhalves are generally the smallest guys around by they manage to do the job, why can’t he?

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.08.09 07:52:03 by Baldrick Reply

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  • I recon Beast, Bismarck and Smit could do with some gametime before they leave for Oz on Monday :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.08.09 08:27:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • How big/small is Lambie, the commentatorson Saturday kept on refering to him as the being big?
    Maybe he has grown in the last few months.
    Lots of talent there though, regardless of size.

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.08.09 08:50:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) :
    Yeah, me too. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.08.09 08:51:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 11) : i’m sure Baldie can tell us. He seems to have a soft spot for the lad :-)

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.08.09 08:57:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • ok, he’s short, but quite stocky. 1.77m and 86kg. Pretty much my size

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.08.09 08:59:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • can’t say I’d fancy the prospect of tackling Danie Rossouw or Pierre Spies at my current size, though

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.08.09 09:01:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • he’s just about exactly the same size as Matt Giteau

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.08.09 09:04:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Good, that means he hasn’t been O Ding on something.

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.08.09 09:26:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Top of the table clash is loosing its luster very quickly with articles like this!!!!

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.08.09 09:44:02 by Rahul Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Weren’t you a lock?

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.08.09 10:01:10 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 19) : yes, but the market for 1.77m locks is not a booming one.

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.08.09 10:16:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • haha im at 1.95m and still hesitant to play lock much rather prefer number8

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.08.09 18:17:40 by Miguel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) :
    I dont think your height is as much an obstruction as your obvious lack of talent. :evil:

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.08.09 19:21:13 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 21) : wow. That might just make you our third tallest poster

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.08.09 20:16:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 22) : if it’s never held you back…

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.08.09 20:17:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) :
    Ye Gods!

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.08.09 22:34:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 25) : assuming methos and sauce are both taller. Could be wrong :-)

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.08.09 23:26:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • from supersport:The Sharks will displace Griquas at the top of the log if they win on Saturday but they start the second round with a tough fixture against Province, who look poised to make an approach to their Springbok front-row forwards Bismarck and Jannie du Plessis, and will not want to risk players aggravating any injuries.
    did wp win the lotto or something??

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.08.09 08:03:58 by willa Reply

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  • oh and they say jmh is highly doubtful

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.08.09 08:08:08 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 27) : I wonder if Johan Rupert didn’t inject some cash at WP because he’s gatvol of his team losing :roll:

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.08.09 08:08:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 28) : 3 weeks in the country and we are yet to see him play(expect willa and war1 of course)

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.08.09 08:10:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 30) : well if not this week then really hopeful that next week he will be fit for wp

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.08.09 08:21:25 by willa Reply

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