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McLeod, Strauss doubtful for Province match


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks, WP on 24 Aug 2009 at 22:56
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The decision about which of his scrumhalves to pick for the upcoming clash with Western Province may just have got a bit easier for John Plumtree. Charl McLeod, superb in his last two outings, has picked up an injury against Griquas and is a doubtful starter for this weekend.

Fit again Rory Kockott will undoubtedly take over in the number 9 jersey, while there will most likely be another change at inside centre, with Andries Strauss also in doubt for the game. Depending on how well Riaan Swanepoel has recovered from a hamstring strain, the nuggety centre could come straight back in to partner Waylon Murray in midfield. Then again, Plumtree now finds himself with more in-form flyhalves than he knows what to do with, so perhaps Juan Hernández could wear the number 12 jersey this week.

It would certainly be grossly unfair to demote flyhalf Monty Dumond after two frankly superb outings at pivot. Having enjoyed a surfeit of good, quick ball from McLeod, though, it remains to be seen whether Dumond will be as effective with the more individualistic Kockott controlling matters at the base.

Province, in contrast, are scratching their heads to find any flyhalf whatsoever. Willem de Waal is out injured, while Peter Grant is apparently soldiering on despite having picked up numerous niggles, inter alia a broken bone in his foot. The plan to convert scrumhalf Conrad Hoffman into a makeshift pivot seems stillborn, as he too has picked up an injury. Should Grant cry off this week, Allister Coetzee will have no option but to move the woeful Joe Pietersen into the flyhalf channel.

It’s not all roses for the Sharks up-front, though, with tighthead prop Wiehahn Herbst having been cited for charging dangerously into a ruck – an act for which he was yellow carded. I really didn’t think the indiscretion warranted further sanction than that card, but you never know when it comes to the circus that is SARU’s judiciary process. Pat Cilliers has looked distinctly uncomfortable at tighthead for most of the first round and it would be a blow to the Sharks should he be forced back into that position against Province – especially since the Capetonians seem to have finally learned how to scrum. Wicus Blaauw is fast earning a reputation and has already destroyed far better tightheads than Cilliers this season.

Province will definitely be without lock Adriaan Fondse, though, as he is unlikely to play again this season. Although they have a superb starting lock pair in Chris Jack and Anton van Zyl, they’ll need to find somebody of the appropriate pedigree to bring onto the bench – not an easy feat at all.



55 Comments

  • should make for an interesting game

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.08.09 06:55:54 by war1 Reply
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  • we are really blessed with talent this season, hope they keep building for next season

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.08.09 07:15:39 by willa Reply

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  • why don’t they put rory on the wing when charl is better? that way he gets to see how frustrating it is not getting ball if there are selfish players on the inside. his boot would also come in handy when covering the back with stefan.

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.08.09 07:41:45 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 2) : yes i was negative about the depth at the sharks pre currie cup, but now i see there is depth, it was just plum being thick in the s14 not using it. lets hope he learns before next year that 15 men can’t win the s14 trophy, a squad does. so give your backup players sufficient game time to make sure they are ready to step in. look at monty that looked dismal in s14, but after a little game time he is looking fairly good.

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.08.09 07:45:55 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 4) : true, now if we can get the backup locks and maybe another wing, and i liked lambie at inside,looked like o’connor from aus

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.08.09 07:53:51 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 5) : well, Mostest is coming and there are lots of rumours about Ludick too

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.08.09 08:14:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : oh yes i forgot, but mosterts always injured, didnt he play like 11 games in 4 years?

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.08.09 08:16:49 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : i also read this morning that they want to play pienaar on 15 this weekend

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.08.09 08:18:49 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 7) : the red tape will fix him :-)

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.08.09 08:31:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.08.09 08:43:47 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 5) : rory at wing. :lol: ruan and charl at 9. we have the locks when the lions guy comes down.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.08.09 08:44:58 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : I was wondering about the red tape…what is that all about.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.08.09 08:45:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 5) : rory at wing. :lol: ruan and charl at 9. we have the locks when the lions guy comes down.@willa (Comment 8) : not a bad move. we need to see how he does with frans and jean leaving for frans.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.08.09 08:46:44 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 12) : it is a cheap wax. you know how some guys are about a good leg wax.

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.08.09 08:47:43 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • damn firefox update, it seems to have some glitches that need sorting out

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.08.09 08:48:41 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 11) : So what do you think of Oupa and his captaincy so far?? Maybe Stefan played to instructions and now that he makes the decisions he tends to vary his play a lot more

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.08.09 08:50:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 12) : it’s some or other new type of strapping that the physio swears by. It can heal a broken arm in only 4 weeks, apparently :)

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.08.09 08:53:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Fit again Rory Kockott will undoubtedly take over in the number 9 jersey

    Hehehe.

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.08.09 08:53:38 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : see the boks are also using it

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.08.09 08:54:59 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : It must work then ;-)

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.08.09 08:56:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Depending on how well Riaan Swanepoel has recovered from a hamstring strain, the nuggety centre could come straight back in to partner Waylon Murray in midfield

    You mean I might not see ‘Swannie’ in ‘full flight’?

    The tragedy!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.08.09 08:58:53 by Morné Reply
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  • 1. beast, deon
    2. bis (?), burden
    3. john, jannie(?), pat
    4. johan, mostert
    5. sykes, albert, hargreaves
    6. botes, keegan (8)
    7. deysel, downey
    8. ryan
    9. charl, ruan (10, 15)
    10. juan (12), monty
    11. jp, mvovo
    12/13. swannie, strauss, waylon (14)
    14. rory, odwa
    15. lambie, stefan

    now if plum uses these guys in the s14 and uses them sparingly giving all the guys a chance, there should not be a problem we had this year where the players were burnt out and flat.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.08.09 08:59:05 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @try time (superrugby’s kryptonite is SANZAR) (Comment 22) : remember there are 23 players in a squad now.

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.08.09 08:59:46 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) : stefan still has brainfarts, but his captaincy is good. johan has been poor for far too long. i am the first to admit that stefan is great on defence and high ball. it is his decision making on attack that i have issue with. remember this is currie cup, so it is easier for him to take calculated risks. when the games get tight though he tends to revert back to kick-at-all-costs.

    as for his captaincy he is diplomatic with the refs (which is important) and he has his player’s respect. muller is too hot headed for the job.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.08.09 09:05:05 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • oh i see the boks were given a slap on the wrists for the armband debacle. i bet the fines were just a deterent for other teams, but behind the scenes irb and saru have discussed the issues and realised the boks were justified to be aggrieved.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.08.09 09:08:17 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) : in the lions game you saw a stefan brainfart moment. he went conservative when we were 17-0 ahead. this allowed the lions back in the game. he should have gone for the kill and the bonus point. the sharks would now be 4 points clear giving us a nicer cushion. i hope the sharks can sort out this bp issue they have.

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.08.09 09:11:49 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • No probable team list? I’m lazy to read… :smile:

    9. Rory
    10. Dumond
    11. Lwazi
    12. JMH
    13. Swannie/Strauss
    14. Waylon
    15. Stefan

    Jordaan looked promising – but he hasn’t impressed me recently…

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.08.09 09:35:23 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 21) : when you face a backline containing Pietersen at flyhalf, Aplon at fullback and a pair of 80kg lighties at centre, you don’t really need much pace at 12. Just a good pair of hands and an offload will do.

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.08.09 09:46:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • I is not much looking forwards to this match. Might be unpleasant.

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.08.09 09:50:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 29) : pvr it then you can look backwards to it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.08.09 10:06:55 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) :

    That is IFFFFF the ball ever gets to 12… :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.08.09 10:11:11 by Morné Reply
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  • Morné (Comment 31) : *trying to disguise the shaky hands and shaky voice*

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.08.09 10:20:34 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 31) : gah!

    Kockott will run straight over Pietersen anyway. I hope… ;)

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.08.09 10:21:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 32) : Morras is quietly confident about this game…

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.08.09 10:22:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    So was Tyson Gay … :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.08.09 10:32:23 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 35) :
    No I dont think so – was married to Robin Givens, remember?

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.08.09 10:48:33 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 36) : too sharp, as usual

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.08.09 10:51:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 36) : Bwa ha ha ha …

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.08.09 10:52:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    Did you get my mail this morning? :sad:

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.08.09 10:56:18 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : Lol! He won’t have to Pietersen will run away, he doesn’t like this “tackling” business.

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.08.09 11:06:18 by molly Reply
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  • I was quietly hoping for a Sharks vs Province final …

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.08.09 11:07:07 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    That I am indeed.

    @molly (Comment 40) :

    Pietersen handed off two would be Lions tacklers to score his try…

    :)

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.08.09 11:13:01 by Morné Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 39) : yes… still processing :)

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.08.09 11:33:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 42) : One of those was Rose… and it was a rubbish attempt at a tackle.
    Still that doesn’t have anything to do with his fear of taking a hit and making a tackle.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.08.09 11:49:16 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :

    Oh…okay…. :cool:

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.08.09 11:58:49 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 44) : look, Grant has by no means been ruled out either.

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.08.09 12:00:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : I live in hope, and I say a prayer every night.

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.08.09 12:17:04 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 47) : good rules to live your life by :)

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.08.09 12:33:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 12) : The “red tape” is kinesiology or kineo tape. You can look it up on Google. Being used by many athletes nowadays, seemed to become a trend at the Beijing Olympics. If you watched the Track and Field world championships many athletes used it, albeit not always red but many different colours. It is used in several different ways either for rehab or bio-mechanical correction. Apparently they way it is being used is by stretching the muscle and applying the tape unstretched. When the muscle is relaxed the wrinkles in the tape pull the skin up separating it from the underlying tissue, allowing better blood flow or something like that. Actually was first invented in 1973, but just became a trend. It is completely breathable and water resistant so you can wear it for days at a time. Interesting stuff.

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.08.09 17:36:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : thanks for that :)

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.08.09 17:56:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) :

    There was an article on one fo the Provincial sites about it a while ago. Or it may have been in the SHarksmag.

    Lemmme see if I can find anything about it again.

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.08.09 18:07:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 51) : it was on sharksrugby.co.za

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.08.09 18:38:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :

    I can’t flippen find it, I think it may have been in the Sharksmag. Quite a few pic’s that I can recall viewing of it.

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.08.09 18:58:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • good news! Herbst got off

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.08.09 19:57:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : Interesting thanks

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