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Sharks looking good at halfway stage


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

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Man, but the Sharks did well this weekend. Billed as a top-of-the-table clash, the match against Griquas turned into a real one-sided affair as the home team completely stuffed the Kimberley mob and sent them back to the Big Hole with their tails between their legs.

They say you can’t make a silk purse our of a sow’s ear, but credit must go to John Plumtree and the Sharks coaching staff because, right now, the weakened Sharks are looking a fair bit better than any of the other teams in this year’s competition, even though many of the others are far closer to full strength. The return of a number of key players, Johann Muller and Waylon Murray in particular, have brought a more settled look to the side, but it’s the standout performances of guys like Craig Burden, Lwazi Mvovo and Charl McLeod that are really catching the eye.

Looking at the log as it stands after the first round of matches, the Sharks are three points clear at the top, having lost only once, to Western Province in the Newlands mud in week 1. Province, the Blue Bulls and Griquas are all on 24 log points, and only points difference separates second from fourth. Each of those sides has lost two games, although only Griquas has dropped a home game, in losing to the Bulls. The Bulls and Province have each lost an away game that they would have expected to win, though and will need to make amends in the second half of the competition. Free State and the Lions are now way back and will need to knock over some of the big boys to stand any chance of making the semis.

This weekend sees some big matches coming up. The Sharks take on Province at ABSA Stadium and again, for the Durban crew, it’s a top-of-the-log clash with first place at stake. Province will make the trip without lock Adriaan Fondse and they will do well to repeat the sort of forward dominance they enjoyed against the Sharks in the first round. The Sharks backs, though, are looking mean and hungry at the moment and with Juan Hernández hopefully back in the mix, it would be a brave man who bets against the Sharks making it seven in a row.

The Lions will need to start their clawback by beating the Bulls in Johannesburg. Should they fail, as I fully anticipate they will, the Bulls should be able to consolidate second place, moving ahead of whomever loses in Durban. The Cheetahs will head to Kimberley knowing that they can do their chances a world of good by handing Griquas a big defeat – a win there and they are suddenly within a single win of replacing their neighbours in the top four.

It’s all still wide open, though, with the Bulls scheduled to head to Cape Town in round 9, to further complicate the picture. In that round, the Cheetahs and Lions will face off in Bloemfontein in a match that surely must decide which of them may still advance to the semi-finals, since it’s highly unlikely that both can still go through.

For the Sharks, though, it’s all looking very good indeed and they need to focus on this weekend’s challenge – downing Province in Durban.



148 Comments

  • I hope Kockett is ready for this weekend’s match…

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.08.09 10:23:08 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 1) : hes gonna have to pull his sox up,charl is looking good!!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.08.09 10:28:39 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 2) : I think thats why he wants him. It’s why I want him.

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.08.09 10:29:51 by molly Reply
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  • I’m hoping people haven’t noticed that the sharks are scoring bonus points for tries without Kockett there.
    The ball has actually made it down the backline a few times, with quite awesome results.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.08.09 10:31:22 by molly Reply
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  • I was on the road for the entire 1st half ( :x ) – but I liked what I saw in the second half.

    Keegan Daniel is a special player. Lwazi Mvovo was also impressive.

    Well done Sharks – let’s keep the momentum going…

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.08.09 10:35:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 4) :

    Some tries good but still a lot coming from pressure defense.

    Not that the first try was pressure defense, personally I would have pinned Murray for that deliberate slap down.

    But you take what comes your way and that they are doing well now.

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.08.09 10:36:09 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : Yeah, the Kwa’s played some of their worst rugby, I would say they lost it more than the Sharks won it. Most of their tries were uber soft.

    I thought the Murray slapdown went backwards from him, so I’ve got no problem with it. Glad he’s still got some pace, or at least it looks like it.

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.08.09 10:44:08 by molly Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : but he slapped the ball backwards… that’s not a penalisable offence.

    Crazy, but it isn’t.

    You guys are spot on about McLeod, though.

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.08.09 10:45:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 1) : Kockott took three balls into contact and lost possession twice. That’s really not good enough. Charl McLeod couldn’t really be faulted and having scored three tries so far, adds something to our attack. He seems to know exactly when it’s on and when to pass, while Rory backs himself too often to go by himself.

    While his kicking adds to his strength, I honestly feel with Monty/Hernandez at 10, we wouldn’t be losing much at all to start mcLeod at 9 ahead of Rory.

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.08.09 10:50:08 by Baldrick Reply

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  • so you Province guys feeling confident ahead of this weekend’s game?

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.08.09 10:50:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 9) : for the second week in a row, Monty has kicked everything on front of him. I think he should play for the Boks ahead of Morne Steyn.

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.08.09 10:51:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : um… no.

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.08.09 10:56:07 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) :

    Very strange law that, the point should really be the slapping down of the ball without any intention to catch it, whether it goes forward or not is irrelevant.

    @molly (Comment 7) :

    I told Rob last week they play a very negative game, and if the Sharks can avoid getting sucked into that game they will give them a hiding.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.08.09 10:56:33 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) :

    spot on! Slapping a ball backwards is not illegal.

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.08.09 10:57:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :

    As confident as I was in round 1, neither team is actually playing great rugby in my view.

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.08.09 10:58:01 by Morné Reply
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  • I hate it when I type a long post and Sharksworld disappears. :evil:
    Short version.
    Really impressed with Burden, McLeod, Dumond and Herbst.
    Our scrums were great on Saturday.
    Considering the Boks we lost and injuries to key players, Muller , Kockett(blessing in disguise?) Hernandez we are doing bloody great and I wouldn’t have expected us to be ahead at half time.

    Regarding Rory. The fact that McLeod is pushing him might just be the best thing that has happened to him in the last two years. He is probably realising that he isn’t indispensable and that could only improve his game and attitude

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.08.09 11:02:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 15) :

    and you guys have just been dealt a little bit of a body blow.

    The ambitious Western Province team was dealt a body blow with the news that star lock Adriaan Fondse was ruled out of the top-of-the-table clash with the Sharks as the result of a knee injury.

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.08.09 11:03:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • On a side note, I still can’t stand Joe Pietersen, how many kicks did he kick out on the full??? The fact that he scored a decent try makes no difference, that he handed off Rose doesn’t make him good, it just shows how poor Rose is.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.08.09 11:03:14 by molly Reply
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  • yeeha! We’ve got Kaplan reffing this weekend.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.08.09 11:03:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : Rob even mentioned that in this article. Jack will cover alright for him, the bench replacement may be a problem though.

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.08.09 11:04:49 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) :

    another blow for WP :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.08.09 11:05:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : did you read the article? :)

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.08.09 11:06:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • did Duane Vermeulen REALLY convert his own try?

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.08.09 11:06:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 7) :
    You seem to have forgotten to add your smileys. ;-)

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.08.09 11:08:24 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) :

    Chris Jack is more than capable!

    @molly (Comment 18) :

    I could not believe they made him man of the match on Saturday. He was hondkak.

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.08.09 11:08:47 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : where’d you read that?

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.08.09 11:09:22 by molly Reply
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  • Man, but the Sharks did well this weekend. Billed as a top-of-the-table clash, the match against Griquas turned into a real one-sided affair as the home team completely stuffed the Kimberley mob and sent them back to the Big Hole with their tails between their legs.

    Another top of the table clash coming up this weekend. :razz:

    Going to be a cracker. :cool:

    Showsport are showing Leopards v Boland because it clashes with the least Roundball games :evil:

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.08.09 11:09:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Rob you forgot to put an emoticon at the end of your sentence so that people know you’re talking absolute bull.

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.08.09 11:09:39 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 24) : on which part? Waylon?

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.08.09 11:10:39 by molly Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) : You’ve got to be kidding… did he really? What a load of rubbish :evil:

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.08.09 11:11:37 by molly Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) :

    As Molly indicates, that will be a concern with the bench though. I can’t see you guys going in to a match without a lock on the bench and I don’t think there is quality back up there.

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.08.09 11:11:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : I’m surprised that one is even televised.

    What happened to your SuperSport subscription?

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.08.09 11:11:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 28) : I’m not. I reckon Monty and Morne are very similar players – about the same skill level.

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.08.09 11:12:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 26) : it’s what the official SA Rugby match stats say…

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.08.09 11:13:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.08.09 11:15:15 by molly Reply
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  • I reckon the Sharks need to stick with Herbst at 3 and McLeod at 9… do that and the match is half won.

    Bring in Swannie at 12 and Juan at 10 and suddenly it’s a potent backline.

    Let’s see the Province centres handling Swannie and Murray in full flight.

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.08.09 11:15:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : SA Rugby doing what SA Rugby does best. Getting things wrong. MotM Pietersen apparently got it.

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.08.09 11:16:18 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) :

    I still have to get around to getting it sorted. The old Compound had it “piped” in to all the houses so my subscription wasn’t needed.

    Need to get a dish and reciver for my card at the new house.

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.08.09 11:17:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : dude… we have Juan “demon tackler” de Jongh AND Morgan “the next springbok” Newman… I think your boys will need to do the handling. :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.08.09 11:18:32 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) :

    is there an article? :razz:

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.08.09 11:18:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 35) : you understand, of course, that it’s more about not really rating Morne Steyn… :)

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.08.09 11:19:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Is Swannie fit to play this weekend??
    Sharks backline for WP. What do you guys think?
    McLeod
    Dumond
    Hernandez
    Swannie
    Mvovu
    Murray
    Oupa

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.08.09 11:19:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 37) : interesting… I will have to go watch the match

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.08.09 11:20:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 39) : it doesn’t really matter what happens in the game anyway. Read Gavin Rich on Monday morning and you’ll find that the WP boys had the better of the game. :)

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.08.09 11:20:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 39) :

    I was also thinking if Rob also reckons he will see the Loch Ness monster up in mud-isle cause he has a better chance of that then see Swannie in ‘full flight’.

    Is that even possible???

    :twisted:

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.08.09 11:21:05 by Morné Reply
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  • Back to work for me, Cheers.

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 42) : I’m not sure… I hope he’ll be fit.

    I don’t really think he has the pace for outside centre, though… Also thought Jordaan had a more than decent match

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.08.09 11:21:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 45) : I agree, Swannie doesn’t seem all that fast…..and Murray also seemed to take quite a few seconds to get up to speed on Saturday

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.08.09 11:23:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • i saw glimpses of what has got a lot of shark fans excited on the weekend but for me it seems like they’re still playing the same way that saw them capitulate in the s14. Preying on turnover balls & scoring counter-attack tries will only get you so far & boy were the griquas woeful.

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.08.09 11:27:53 by quota Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 45) : remember, Morras, p=mv. :) Swannie doesn’t need to move all that fast… he just needs to run over Newman, draw in the midget and then pass to Waylon.

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.08.09 11:28:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : I just don’t really think we should drop Dumond at the moment while his confidance is high.

  • Comment 51, posted at 24.08.09 11:28:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) :

    Playing Kockett inside him will knock his confidence much quicker than dropping him!!! ;)

  • Comment 52, posted at 24.08.09 11:31:23 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : the injuries have taken their toll on murray, i laughed when i saw him straining his facial muscles when his body was standing in one place :D

  • Comment 53, posted at 24.08.09 11:32:14 by quota Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : Sadly I fully agree. As I said in a previous post. McLeod is probaly the best thing that could have happened to Kockett

  • Comment 54, posted at 24.08.09 11:34:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 53) : how are your guys doing at the moment? Starting to wonder what happens when you get relegated from the First Division?

  • Comment 55, posted at 24.08.09 11:36:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • PLEASE play kockott!!!!

  • Comment 56, posted at 24.08.09 11:39:34 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : I saw yesterday that the Valke are bottom of the log in 1st division. I stand corrected, but I don’t think they have won a single game this year.

  • Comment 57, posted at 24.08.09 11:40:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 56) :

    Don’t worry, they will!

  • Comment 58, posted at 24.08.09 11:41:02 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) :

    Pumas 5 5 0 0 24
    SWD 5 4 1 0 17
    Griffons 5 3 2 0 15
    Mighty Elephants 5 2 3 0 11
    Border 5 1 4 0 8
    Valke 5 0 5 0 2

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.08.09 11:44:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 58) :
    So I am not the only one fearing the return of Captain Fantastic…

    @quota (Comment 53) :
    Seemed to get their quick enough to me – had a really good game.

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.08.09 11:47:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 58) : Rory always seems to save his A-game for Province, though…

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.08.09 11:52:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • Is it not amazing how quickly we turn on one of our own???

    We all were shouting for COCKOTT to be in the Bok squad ???
    Now most are shouting for him to be dropped ?? :shock: ouch what short memories we have , where just a few games ago it was his huge heart that gave us victories…..

    Granted since then one Monty has stepped up and is probably the most improved player in SA.
    I mean we all spoke of how shit he was right ?? :roll: and thats me included :shock:

    Surely you play you best available team , and most experienced.
    I feel sorry for mccleod but i feel this will be the probable backline

    And i have gone with 2 options , as i am obviously not sure myself how Plmtree will go.
    I am sure mccleod will get more chances now that he has also stepped up a gear

    What we should be doing is celebrating the fact that our youngsters are upping the anti.
    How worried were we not a few weeks ago . The cronje’s, lambie,downey,monty , mvovo, all these lads have come to the party and we can now start to see the depth that maybe we did not see before

    here is 2 backline combo’s i feel the sharks might play this comming weekend

    15 stefan
    14 murray
    13 hernandez
    12 swannepoel
    11 mvovo
    10 monty
    09 cockott

    reserves : Mccleod,Jordaan,Strauss

    or

    15 stefan
    14 murray
    13 strauss
    12 swannepoel
    11 mvovo
    10 hernandez
    09 cockott

    reserves: du mond , jordaan , mccleod

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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) : Good day Rob

    Agreed and i have no doubt Rory will be ready for them again

    I feel as i have said in my previous posting is where is Plum going to put hernandez in ??

    will he take out a very inform monty ?? and maybe shift hernandez to 13 like i have pointed out ??

    or will he bench monty and got for a more solid defensive backline by including strauss and winging murray??

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  • @molly (Comment 29) :
    On the part where you insinuate that the Sharks only won because Griquas didnt play well, but if you are serious then there is no need for them.
    I presumed you were joking but you obviosly believe that the team winning with a 35 point difference was lucky.

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 62) :
    Sorry bro, I have been saying for a long time that Rory is potentially a very good player, but waaay too selfish.

    Always rated Mcleod too – was great for the Valke before he got here.

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  • @blackshark (Comment 5) : HI BS hope you are well

    You know i have been Chatting with one or 2 black mates on Keo re Mvovo and Vulindlu , and i said to them i feel Mvovo is better

    They said no and i said why?? their answer being Vulindlu is bigger stronger and more talented…

    Well that he may be, i say Mvovo is better for these reasons

    better work rate , faster , bmt,better hands,big hearted playerand its starting to show

    maybe with time vulindlu will show what many believe in him , till then he has some way to go to replace mvovo as right now that kid is showing his metal

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 64) : Not lucky, re-read it, I feel the griqua’s threw it away more than the Sharks won it. The Sharks did put enough pressure on to force the mistakes, but it was a SHOCKING performance from the Kwa’s.
    I also thought the ref was poor, for both teams.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 65) : Hiyas BF , in parts i agree and hey boet we all entitled to our opinions, :evil: :lol:

    but i seriously think thats for the coach to work out of him

    he is the man in the starting block and also you know as well as i do with the backline we had of late i seem to get the feeling it was rory’s job to take the pressure off the likes of monty and guy

    now that they have stepped up i think its time rory went back to the rory we know and lets not forget , its the same rory that a few weeks ago we all said should be in the bok squad

    i dont recall someone saying mccleod should be in the bok squad ?? :???:

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 65) : funny though mate not sure about you , but am i dreaming or is mcleod starting to look a little like robert dupreez in his style of play ??

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  • @molly (Comment 67) :
    Agree.

    @sharks_lover (Comment 68) :
    I agree he is a good player – good boot, great defence, good carrier and very committed, but he stifles the backline – been doing it for more than just when he was playing with Monty too.

    I am of the opinion that a good 9 takes the pressure of his 10 where necessary, but allows others to look good by doing so – in other words, you judge the halfback by the MOMs his outside backs gets.

    He is not a bad player, but he could be a lot better if he remembered the 14 other guys…

    I rate Mcleod very highly – glad he is finally getting some gametime. He doesn’t have Rory’s potential, but he is a better distributor and he provides that elusive left boot – far better than Robert DP. ;-)

    @sharks_lover (Comment 66) :
    Mvovo looks like he could go very far. Not small at 92kg already.

  • Comment 70, posted at 24.08.09 12:17:19 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Has Monty ever played centre before??

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) : i hear ya mate , still believe that the coach should work on any weakness rory has , but he has one big thing we can never forget , and thats huge bmt

    and like you i too am a mccleod fan. just feel rory still offers more

  • Comment 72, posted at 24.08.09 12:22:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • DID YOU SEE WHO IS THIRD ON TH SB FOR SHARKSWORLD??? :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 73, posted at 24.08.09 12:22:19 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 72) : I think the rivalry will bring out the best in both players and this will ultimately benefits the Sharks

  • Comment 74, posted at 24.08.09 12:25:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 73) : I wonder…who could it be…does anybody else know… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 24.08.09 12:27:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 75) :

    They sure as hell should know now!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 24.08.09 12:28:20 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 68) : I’d have McCleod in the Bok squad ahead of Rory!

    (on CURRENT form…) :)

  • Comment 77, posted at 24.08.09 12:28:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 71) : hiyas pokkel , NO he has not , and defensively he isnt not a center

    but proud of him how he has stood up when we needed him

  • Comment 78, posted at 24.08.09 12:29:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) : Mvovo is a star!

  • Comment 79, posted at 24.08.09 12:30:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 72) & @Pokkel (Comment 74) : But where does Cronje fit in then?

  • Comment 80, posted at 24.08.09 12:30:52 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) :

    I have to eat my hat…Monty is looking rather good…:-)

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.08.09 12:32:05 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) : then again rob we know you would have barrit their before any other center :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.08.09 12:35:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 73) : Guess who is quietly sneaking up the FL points table and lying 5th :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 24.08.09 12:40:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 82) : Barritt’s not eligible for SA. You should follow the news :)

    @molly (Comment 80) : Cronjé and his bro go back to the Under 21s to make sure we win that title too.

  • Comment 84, posted at 24.08.09 12:43:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 80) : HI Molly…. Guy Cronje is 19 years old , his time will come, he tries to play a little to much like butch i am afraid, but he does not have the body and strength to be a butch

    nor does he have a good kicking game out of hand, at poles his kicking is not to bad , but lambie and ross his brother are both better kickers to poles

    fact is ross and guy need to bulk up, they are way to small , and could get hurt bad come super 14

  • Comment 85, posted at 24.08.09 12:44:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : lol ROB i know but that doesnt change your wishlist :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 86, posted at 24.08.09 12:45:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) & @sharks_lover (Comment 85) : Oh ja, they’re babies, I forget. Ok… they can get in the queue.

    Rob, what happened to Len Olivier. Is he playing somewhere?

  • Comment 87, posted at 24.08.09 12:50:49 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 67) : @Big Fish (Comment 70) :
    So do you guys think the Sharks should feel flattered by the score then and that Griguas dont need to feel too bad about losing by 35 due to a bad day at the office.

  • Comment 88, posted at 24.08.09 12:52:41 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 88) : i agree with you

    had we played better and taken all those opertunities that cam our was we should have won by 60

  • Comment 89, posted at 24.08.09 12:55:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • cam = came

  • Comment 90, posted at 24.08.09 12:59:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 88) : The griqua’s should feel VERY bad, they’ve played some great rugby this season and didn’t really bother pitching against the sharks.
    The Sharks could’ve done so much better against a team playing that badly. They didn’t have to work too hard to get the 35 (or whatever it was) they did.

    Seems like you want me to say something else, but I feel like I’m repeating myself. Were you sooper happy with their performance?

  • Comment 91, posted at 24.08.09 13:01:38 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 91) : molly never forget you only play as the opposition allows u2

    the sharks put so much presure on the kwas and they cracked

    can you remember how well they started?? and then the great sharks defence?? and i feel that took the wind out of their sails

  • Comment 92, posted at 24.08.09 13:05:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 91) : Not trying to get you to say anything else. I just thought your statement “Yeah, the Kwa’s played some of their worst rugby, I would say they lost it more than the Sharks won it. Most of their tries were uber soft.” would indicate that the Sharks did not deserve the win and wouldnt have won if Griguas had pitched.
    I get the feeling you are sorry the Sharks won. Im not.
    And yes I was very, very happy with the performance.

  • Comment 93, posted at 24.08.09 13:08:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 93) : The Sharks deserved it and most likely would have won it (if griqua pitched), but I really thought there’d be more of a game out of it, the way they played it could have Boland vs. Sharks, really an anti-climax for me. Keep in mind I’m not a Sharks supporter so I’m probably being over critical.

  • Comment 94, posted at 24.08.09 13:14:33 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 94) : :cool:

  • Comment 95, posted at 24.08.09 13:15:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • one thing that disturbed me the weekend was out poor line out throwing, and also when winning the ball throwing it back to noone :shock:

    it happened 4 times and it was muller 3 times of the 4 , unlike him

  • Comment 96, posted at 24.08.09 13:15:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 95) : me thinks the sadness by molly is that she was hoping for sharks to ,lose as it would bennifit her team :lol:

    then she thought the kwas would do to sharks like that tried the bulls , but im afraid she forgot the sharks are not the bulls and we whipped the kwas .

    i agree the kwas we not at their best , but i still think its due to the pressure we put on them

    the sharks have been known for a team that strangles the oponents and then attack

    this was clearly the case saturday as we got tries after strangling them ,

  • Comment 97, posted at 24.08.09 13:19:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 87) : Len is still around.

    Weird, isn’t it? From having no flyhalves, the Sharks (potentially) have the following options on their books (in no particular order)

    Ruan
    JMH
    Monty
    Guy
    Len
    Pat Lambie
    Tian Meyer (under 21 – also highly rated)

    Not bad, huh?

  • Comment 98, posted at 24.08.09 13:21:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 97) : Maybe ;-)
    No seriously, I love the underdog, but they played damn well against WP, they should’ve beaten the Bulls and then didn’t do much against the Sharks. Maybe it was due to the Sharks strangling them, but it was a different team.

  • Comment 99, posted at 24.08.09 13:33:25 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 98) : Not bad… and we have:
    Grant
    De Waal
    Hoffman (??? :| )



    Joe Pietersen (please not him)

    And looking at the u21 contracted players, we only have 1 flyhalf. Things are not looking good. Maybe we’ll buy Ruan Pienaar or something.

  • Comment 100, posted at 24.08.09 13:37:39 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 100) : suggest it to Gavin Rich… it will be an “open secret” in no time :)

  • Comment 101, posted at 24.08.09 13:41:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : Ag man, I’m sure Gavin is writing about it right now. Although he’s probably thinking Morne Steyn, but in all likelihood it’s gonna be Derick Hougaard. Is he old enough or out of form enough for you guys to poke fun?

  • Comment 102, posted at 24.08.09 13:47:52 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 102) : the Hougaardt link is one that Harmse brought up a few weeks ago… as such, it might just have legs.

    Which is good, since you guys look set to lose Grant and I’m not sure how much longer de Waal will go on.

  • Comment 103, posted at 24.08.09 13:53:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Sharks keep improving with each game – so that’s always a good sign…

    The Griquas have been playing some exciting rugby – and I was “concerned” before the match – but it’s true that that was their worst game so far this season (from what I’ve seen so faranyway). The better team won…

    Charl has been playing well and giving us more options – nice…but we are playing the only team that has managed to beat us this season so we need to start with all our warriors. I still have faith in Kockott- and I think we will see better distribution from him – unless he’s really dom and blind.

  • Comment 104, posted at 24.08.09 13:56:40 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 103) : Where are we losing Grant to? Don’t those rumours come around every 3 weeks or so?

    Yay, Hougaard, oh joy :sad:

  • Comment 105, posted at 24.08.09 13:56:47 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 105) : hmmm… oh right, he’s not going to the Force any more, is he? I can’t keep track

  • Comment 106, posted at 24.08.09 14:03:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 98) :
    Not so sure about Lambie at fly half.
    Tian Meyer looks classy and is also a good scrum half.

  • Comment 107, posted at 24.08.09 14:07:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 107) : well, Lambie can probably play anywhere… long term future may well be fullback. Who knows?

  • Comment 108, posted at 24.08.09 14:32:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 73) : guess who’s first :?: :mrgreen:

    (couldn’t help :mrgreen:

  • Comment 109, posted at 24.08.09 14:44:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 105) :
    Grant would be a fool not to put lots of distance between him and Province. He has been treated like dog turd by them this whole season and with Provinces new found gung ho approach of trying to buy the Springbok team, I wouldnt be surprised if Grant will soon be viewed with some disdain around there.

  • Comment 110, posted at 24.08.09 14:44:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 110) : must agree. grant had good 2008 and instead of developing him more rassie puts de waal in charge – crazy if you ask me.

  • Comment 111, posted at 24.08.09 14:52:08 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 109) :

    JarsonX…

    What the hell happened to you thsi round?? :shock:

  • Comment 112, posted at 24.08.09 15:04:21 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 112) : ooops – when I checked last I was still on top – either updated late or a conspiracy :roll:
    (or a blond factor :roll:

  • Comment 113, posted at 24.08.09 15:21:25 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 112) :
    :?:
    Weird, Rekinek was 1st yesterday afternoon – saw it with my own 2 eyes, I did.

  • Comment 114, posted at 24.08.09 15:23:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 113) :

    You were 3rd when I checked :oops:

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) : :shock: I am afraid to think when I will be tomorrow … :roll:

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  • Pts BP Tot
    1 Jarsonx 35.5 0.00 35.50
    2 Blondie 34.0 1.00 35.00
    3 IceBabe 33.5 1.33 34.83
    4 Guppyonroids 34.0 0.75 34.75
    5 Frisbee 34.0 0.33 34.33
    6 Vlamgat 34.0 0.00 34.00
    7 rekinek 33.5 0.33 33.83
    8 war1 33.0 0.58 33.58
    9 Slak 33.0 0.50 33.50
    10 MikeM 31.5 2.00 33.50

  • Comment 117, posted at 24.08.09 15:35:43 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 116) :it should be where (instead of when)

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  • @rekinek (Comment 116) : Me too, No weong predictions but going backwards. :twisted:

  • Comment 119, posted at 24.08.09 16:03:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I was actually surprised that Johann Muller was in the team so quickly after a broken arm. It takes me long to get past a pulled muscle.
    The Sharks are in such a great position, they should never have lost to Western Provence – but that is what a lucky bounce does for you in the first minute.
    But now, we have another chance on WP, this is a huge game, winning it and also because of the ‘guaranteed’ win the week after against, will give the lead we deserve.

  • Comment 120, posted at 24.08.09 16:05:53 by PhillipGibb Reply

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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 120) : Howzit, you new to the site?? Welcome to Sharksworld :smile:

  • Comment 121, posted at 24.08.09 16:09:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 120) : welcome ;)

  • Comment 122, posted at 24.08.09 16:16:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 120) : you’re right about Muller, though… bloody amazing that he came back so quickly and then still played 80 minutes.

    BTW, are you using Gravatar?

  • Comment 123, posted at 24.08.09 16:17:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 123) : yeah, I am using a Gravatar (by default).

  • Comment 124, posted at 24.08.09 16:19:01 by PhillipGibb Reply

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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 124) : ah – ok. Good to see that it works seamlessly here. I have never actually tested it before.

    Now if *everybody* would just head on over to http://www.gravatar.com I could get rid of the buggy UserPhoto plugin :)

  • Comment 125, posted at 24.08.09 16:26:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • i am still wondering whether it is good or bad that he is back so early. Stef did a good job.

  • Comment 126, posted at 24.08.09 16:30:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 125) : but aren’t our photos just more interesting (almost tempted to say reflections of personalities :mrgreen:

    BTW – gravatar – that sounds like grieve + avatar

  • Comment 127, posted at 24.08.09 16:35:01 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 125) : yeahhh, Gravatar rocks.

  • Comment 128, posted at 24.08.09 16:35:05 by PhillipGibb Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 119) : not good :!:

  • Comment 129, posted at 24.08.09 16:36:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 126) : Fullbacks can get a bit isolated for quick decision making, while the scrum guys are close to the pivot. Yet I wonder why there aren’t more fly half captains. Or what do the New Zealands call them 5/8s?

  • Comment 130, posted at 24.08.09 16:37:14 by PhillipGibb Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 127) : point is, you can still upload exactly the same photo at Gravater. It gets linked to your email address and will show up here automatically, without me needing to store copies of everyone’s picture. You can then use the same picture on any site that supports gravatar without needing to upload your pic again.

  • Comment 131, posted at 24.08.09 16:40:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 130) : we had a bit of a discussion about that last week and I also thought that 10 would be best captain. 10 & 9 are links between backs and forwards, but I felt that 9 was too much involved. I think 15 is sometimes far from where action.
    Me2, on the other hand, says that FB can see things clearer (because of that distance) and has plenty of opportunities to communicate with other players. That also makes sense.

    I think we do not have too many established 10s to make them captains.

  • Comment 132, posted at 24.08.09 16:54:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • I like Stefan as captain because it gives him a say in the way the game is played. I sometimes think that he fully follows instructions, as opposed to playing with the freedom to make his own decissions according to what he sees on the field. I think this captaincy role has given him the decission making opportunity to do the things that he would maybe not have under other circumstances.

  • Comment 133, posted at 24.08.09 17:02:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 133) : I think you’re right. He’s a different player these days, whatever the reason.

  • Comment 134, posted at 24.08.09 17:09:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 116) :

    I musta been tired at lunch time, I thought I was talking to JarsonX. :oops:

    I was gonna give him kak about being beaten by a GIRL. :wink:

  • Comment 135, posted at 24.08.09 17:43:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 133) : Is Stefan the new Rolls Royce Full Back? Like André Joubert.

  • Comment 136, posted at 24.08.09 19:02:11 by PhillipGibb Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 133) :
    Very interesting point.

    @robdylan (Comment 134) :
    For shizzle.

  • Comment 137, posted at 24.08.09 19:23:21 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @PhillipGibb (Comment 136) :

    If we could say “Let’s apply the RR tag to provincial Rugby Only” then I would Say YES!

    Unfortunately Stefan is not a Bok at the moment and We will never be able to REALLY hang the RR tag on him because of that.

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 135) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 139, posted at 24.08.09 20:40:41 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • IMO having ST as captain makes the difference, Monty is doing very good and so is Mcleod, and the youngsters are all doing well. I dont want to be Plummo when the Bokke is back, who to pick where and when is going to be a nightmare.

  • Comment 140, posted at 24.08.09 20:44:51 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 117) : i’ll never feel safe untill theres at least 5 points between me and second

  • Comment 141, posted at 24.08.09 20:47:36 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • Wiehan Herbst has been cited, when is the hearing??

  • Comment 142, posted at 24.08.09 20:49:20 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 142) : oh crap, really? That charge? Deserved no worse than yellow

  • Comment 143, posted at 24.08.09 21:28:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • LEGEND VIDEO!!!

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 133) : @robdylan (Comment 134) : I wonder what TT would say about this?? Maybe Oupa wasn’t allowed to play the way he wanted to.

  • Comment 145, posted at 25.08.09 08:35:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Nah…keep the user pic… gravatar is limiting…

  • Comment 146, posted at 25.08.09 09:40:36 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 146) : in what sense?

  • Comment 147, posted at 25.08.09 09:47:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 146) : @robdylan (Comment 147) :

    I like my pictures, TYVM! :twisted:

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