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Pienaar at fullback? Surely not!


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, Tri Nations on 25 Aug 2009 at 15:03
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It is with thinly-veiled horror that I read of the supposed plans to use Ruan Pienaar at fullback against the Aussies this weekend. It’s close to the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Pienaar has endured positional uncertainty of the worst possible kind since making his test debut in 2006. Brought on at fullback against the All Blacks that day, he has shifted around the backline from fullback to wing, to scrumhalf and finally to flyhalf, where he was just starting to look settled. His last six test starts have been in one position and I feel we were finally starting to reap the rewards of picking the player consistently at flyhalf.

Now, just because some oke from the Bulls is a better goalkicker, Pienaar needs to be moved again? It’s bloody rubbish, is what it is, especially when you consider how crap the rest of the Bok backline looks with Morné Steyn at pivot. If you need to accommodate Steyns’s boot in the team, then why not let him play fullback, where he can do the least damage in all-round play and let Pienaar operate in the flyhalf position.

Let’s not forget exactly how bad Pienaar looked when White picked him at fullback in 2007. He was defensively all over the show in that position, making it a real risk to play him there. I understand the desire to want to drop Frans Steyn to “teach him a lesson” but moving Ruan Pienaar to fullback is a move that will backfire on us.

Mark my words.



110 Comments

  • hoor hoor

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.08.09 15:19:09 by willa Reply
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  • What a kak idea. Frans Steyn has just started looking better at 15 and Ruan never looked good there in his limited game time there. PdV needs to change his attitude towards selecting overseas based players. Limit the number of overseas based players to 2 per match 22 to protect our local cometition but to be so hardegat is just going to bite him in the ass.

    I’m a big Ruan fan,but he isn’t ‘the tiger woods’ of rugby and shouldn’t be forced into the team because of his talent.He needs to prove he is better that Morne else sit on the bench. He will become the next Brent Russel, Gaffie and then become the next Steyn because he WILL stuff off overseas

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.08.09 15:45:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • There is a comment from Div on this subject that leads me to believe that it ain’t gonna happen.

    De Villiers did not want to say much on the possible move, but indicated that his planning for the tour at the end of the year and the 2011 World Cup was under way.

    “I’m going to start talking to players about that tournament. It’s important that each one of them knows how he fits into the 2011 picture. The team that trained may not be the same one that runs out in Perth, but it’s important for us as a management to examine all our options,” said De Villiers.

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.08.09 15:49:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    PdV has a once in a lifetime chance to shut his detractors’ mouths FIRMLY this weekend. I don’t think he will be silly enough to mess with the side.

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.08.09 15:50:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : good point, oubaas… some sanity

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.08.09 15:52:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • The reason for him training there could be no more than having a look see how he would manage if he has to come on in the 2nd half at 15.

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.08.09 15:52:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Man having consistent internet is almostt like a new feeling to me. :smile:

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.08.09 15:55:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) :

    The voice of sanity has re-surfaced! Oh how your calm manner and wise words have been missed…

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.08.09 15:55:33 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) :

    I hope you are right, but WHY now????? Why examine options a couple of days before being able to clinch a historic 3N’s.

    I am also worrid that the bulk of the team will only arrive in Perth late on Wednesday and will only have one training session there before the captains run on Friday……complacency….I bloody hope not

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.08.09 16:00:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Pienaar was in the probable starting line-up when the South Africans trained on the Loftus Versfeld B-field on Monday.

    The Question we all SHOULD be asking is why were the boks still training in Pretoria on Monday afternoon, mere DAYS before they are playing a test match in Perth after they had a bye the week before?

    They shoulda been in Aus ages ago. :evil:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.08.09 16:02:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Yea like thats helped us in the past :twisted:

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.08.09 16:05:01 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 11) : :mrgreen: :grin: :oops: :razz:

    I read Tank lanning’s blog the other day and in the post script he alluded to the Boks having to travel to Perth in two batches coz they didn’t book their tickets early enough.

    Anyone hear any detail on that?

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.08.09 16:08:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 8) : he he. Yes. The rest of us are so excitable.

    Hey, been following some of the discussion on Walter’s Lions World site. Looks like they’ve told Walter Venter to pack his bags. Idiots.

    I hope he comes to join us.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.08.09 16:08:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : I picked that up via Tank as well

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.08.09 16:17:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    Very Curious why they left so late and why they left it so late???????????????????

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.08.09 16:23:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • This site….she is broken….I’m really battling to post. :sad:

    When is the Bok team announcement???

    @robdylan (Comment 13) : Walter is a good player..let him come

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.08.09 16:24:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) : how do you mean you are battling to post? Not seeing problems my side. What browser are you using? Tell me what’s happening.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.08.09 16:33:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) :

    The site she is fine for me, and if the site works with MY internet then it will even work with a diesel powered browser. :wink:

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.08.09 16:33:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) :

    They have to arrive in perth first, they were still training in Sa Yesterday. I suspect a very late announcement, Thursday PM sometime (Friday AM in snake country)

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.08.09 16:34:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 18) : I had to remove the Polls yesterday, though. The upgrade has mysteriously broken that plugin and I can’t seem to get it fixed

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.08.09 16:43:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : maybe they’ll announce the team in two halves :)

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.08.09 16:44:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Bwhahahahahhahahaha :mrgreen:

    From Adnaan Moh’d on his tour diary

    Team manager Arthob Petersen, media manager Anthony McKaiser, physiotherapist René Naylor and all the fringe players for Saturday’s Test were on the plane that arrived in Perth on Tuesday while the rest of the 25-man Bok contingent will only set foot in Australia on Wednesday.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.08.09 16:48:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Obviously Mo is new to international travel :lol:

    While going through the final security check, our hand-held luggage was scrutinised. All my toiletries, including my expensive JPG cologne, toothpaste, shampoo, conditioner and moisturising creams were confiscated as they weren’t sealed in a plastic bag.

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.08.09 16:49:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) : now that was just a little silly!

    JPG? That’s a bit moffie, isn’t it?

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.08.09 16:55:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • JPG? What is that?

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.08.09 16:59:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • moisturising creams? :shock:

    Is ‘Mo’ a woman? :twisted:

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.08.09 17:00:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • And this 100ml rule on planes is sommer a klomp kak. What stops me from getting together with 10 of my friends on the same flight each with a 100ml of whatever we need.

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.08.09 17:04:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • Been battling to get on this site allday …and now all thw writing is funny and the layout is weird….whats going on…
    And why would FS need to be “taught a lesson” why use the 3n’s to do such a petty thing….

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.08.09 17:05:22 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 25) : Jean Paul Gaultier.

    @Just a Fan (Comment 28) : what browser are you using? Can you send me a screenshot of the problem?

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.08.09 17:10:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : Oh, him. :smile:

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.08.09 17:12:17 by McLovin Reply

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  • sorry rob – battled to get back on – how do i take a screen shot. Using firefox

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.08.09 17:12:32 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 27) : because it then becomes ten times more likely that they’ll be onto at least one of you… it’s all about intelligence and surveillance at the end of the day. By the time you’ve boarded the plane, it’s far too late.

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.08.09 17:12:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : My plan needs work then. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.08.09 17:20:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • hey rob heres a nice article for you from ur favourite journo :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.08.09 17:25:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) : I’m removing it because we’ve been asked not to nick stuff from SuperRugby

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.08.09 17:43:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 27) :

    Yeah good point that, I have thought about that before as well.

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.08.09 18:04:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    you have no also messed up the comment numbers. :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.08.09 18:04:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    Now THAT oke would be a decent replacement for Jean de Villiers!!!

    I hope the Erasmi are aware of his availability!! :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.08.09 18:10:07 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 39) :

    Dude!!!!!!!!!!!

    He is nowhere near retirement age, WHY would the Erasmi be interested in him? :razz:

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.08.09 18:18:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) :
    Brian Habana??

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.08.09 21:03:15 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 41) : no, im pretty sure he is referring to walter venter

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.08.09 21:40:32 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 42) : i feel for the guy, he is such a genuine guy, i really do feel he was not given the opportunities he deserved, cant remember seeing him play a bad game, he is a solid and dependable player, i think the lions will rue that decision, this may be a long shot but i think he may be a good option as bok 12 wen jdv and fransie have left

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.08.09 21:49:07 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 43) :

    I can’t understand it either.

    He was dropped from their S14 squad which inself was a HUGE mistake.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.08.09 22:09:53 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 44) : i was actually really shocked wen i 1st heard that, and now this, once again the lions let go one of their best players, their union will never get strong if they keep doing things like this,

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.08.09 22:20:06 by war1 Reply
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  • Rob if ur awake , which ya normally aint and if ya havent heard the news ……. HERBST has been cleared by citing commission

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.08.09 22:31:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 45) : hiyas war1 ,, wanted to ask you before if ur in PTA ??

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.08.09 22:32:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Here is the Sharks team I think will play Saturday.
    Who the capt will be is going to be interesting as Stefan has had 5 games as capt and won all … , but i guess the right thing to do would replace muller as capt.

    15 Stefan
    14 Jordaan
    13 Murray
    12 Swannepoel
    11 Mvovo
    10 Hernandez
    09 Cockott
    08 Daniel
    07 Deysel
    06 Botes
    05 Muller ( capt )
    04 Sykes
    03 Herbst
    02 Burden
    01 Carstens

    16 Skipper
    17 Cilliers
    18 Albert
    19 Downey
    20 McCleod
    21 DuMond
    22 Strauss

    I realise DuMond has been brilliant but with cockott back the kicking is taken care of, thus leaving space for hernandez to slot into the pivot role

    I cant see the team for saturday looking much different to this

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.08.09 23:03:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 46) : already knew that :-)

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.08.09 23:15:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 41) :
    No, Walter Venter.

    Brian has no more than 3 years left in him, a spring chicken by WP standards. ;-)

  • Comment 50, posted at 26.08.09 04:35:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I thought playing Ruan at 12 was the most ridiculous idea you ever heard Rob? ;)

    Anycase you should not be so worried.

    I believe defensively and on attack the two will swop around (Steyn and Pienaar) between 10 and 15 giving you the best of both worlds.

    But even so, I cannot see it happen.

    Personally I don’t mind Pienaar at 15, in fact, before his move to 10 I was always saying I believe he should follow in his dad’s footsteps.

  • Comment 51, posted at 26.08.09 08:47:53 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 51) : i just don’t want him moved again. He’s been moved around enough now

  • Comment 52, posted at 26.08.09 08:52:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : but now they are also gonna ask the sharks to play him where the boks do,that could be another screw up

  • Comment 53, posted at 26.08.09 08:58:13 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 53) : exactly. Ruan has invested a lot in this move to flyhalf and is actually playing superbly in that position. Move the kicking drone somewhere else, if you must have him at all.

  • Comment 54, posted at 26.08.09 09:05:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :

    The question should be where Pienaar could serve the Boks best?

    And on this topic the debate should be would he best serve the Boks from the bench, or at fullback?

    We are winning with Steyn at 10, you do not fix things that ain’t broke. Monty Dumond got the short end even here (and from me) about his play as a 10, look at him now.

    No matter our personal opinion on who should play 10, some guys have simply taken the opportunities that came their way (Steyn) and those who lost out need to show the same committment to get back what they lost.

    Steyn is not a bad 10 by any means, we could analyse any player in the Boks setup and highlight areas where they are not as efficient as someone else, and there is a case for Steyn vs. Pienaar for obvious reasons.

    But there is also a bigger case to be pragmatic about it. And that comes down to the team we have works for us at the moment.

    PDV mentioned he is going to start talking to his players and their roles, this tells me Ruan will have a say or buy-in to the plans of PDV, if that includes developing him as a 15 while we have Steyn available then so be it, at least the players will be consulted.

    It is encouraging to see PDV not stuck on his ‘favourites’ like White where he does not change his mind about players. This means that currently, we have two very able players in just about every single position that can run out for the Green and Gold on any day.

  • Comment 55, posted at 26.08.09 09:07:20 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 55) : yeah, you are spot on as usual, when wearing Bok glasses. Remember that, rightly or wrongly, my Bok glasses are my alternate pair… I wear them when I can’t find my Sharks ones :)

    Ruan is a player of notoriously fragile temperament and his move to flyhalf has only been successful because he made it coming off a high confidence-base, having excelled at scrumhalf in the Currie Cup last year. If you tell him “you’re not good enough as a flyhalf anymore (even though less than a year ago we promised you that you would be our flyhalf) so we want you to change positions again”, he’s not going to respond well.

    Playing Pienaar at fullback isn’t going to be in the Sharks’ long-term interests either, with Lambie and hopefully Ludik lined up for that role. My gut-feel is that Odwa will naturally migrate there as well. When Hernandez goes, if we’ve moved Pienaar, we’ll be left with only Monty as a real flyhalf option, which worries me.

  • Comment 56, posted at 26.08.09 09:16:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) : and the worst is his last move could be to Europe,i would if they messed me around like that, look at frans!

  • Comment 57, posted at 26.08.09 09:28:41 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    I cannot see how first and foremost PDV and Pienaar himself will not look out for his best interests as a player.

    We all know PDV believes he is a potentially great flyhalf, Ruan seemed to have bought into that but he now sits with a decision that either I repay the faith in my coach and concentrate solely on flyhalf and communicate that to my coach (he believes the same) and I start producing, or that I will actually be happy to serve the Boks in a capacity as a 15 as I still add value, but perhaps kill off my chances to become a 10…

    Ruan is still very young, he has more than enough time to develop into 3 positions and become a specialist.

    Remember, with Frans leaving this year we will have 3 or 4 fullbacks who all have to ‘prove’ themselves as the incumbent, if Ruan plays one or 4 tests there now he will have a headstart over Ludik, Jantjes, Kirchner for the 15 jersey for not only 2010, but possibly 2011 for the World Cup…

    A lot to weigh up, and not all that bad.

  • Comment 58, posted at 26.08.09 09:37:28 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 58) : well, I guess the problem I have with your reasoning is that it starts with the assumption that Morn&ecaute; Steyn is a better flyhalf than Pienaar… I believe that’s an incorrect assumption. Steyn is in the team for his goal-kicking skills… as such, if we’re going to be moving anyone around, it should be him.

  • Comment 59, posted at 26.08.09 09:42:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) :

    But then again, would moving him to 15 improve the Bok dynamic or weaken it?

    We wont lose his kicking as a player but will we lose playing a guy there not adapt, or poor at playing 15 (as he proved with the Bulls on occassion)?

    Think team context.

  • Comment 60, posted at 26.08.09 09:46:58 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 60) :

    I guess there are a few things in rugby you cannot get away with, two most important being a kicker and a captain.

    The rest you go with what improves the dynamic of the team or overall team standards.

    So the question then remains, if we want to keep Smit as captain and in the team do we not pick Bismarck? Or do we move Smit to 3?

    Same situation here…

    Do we move Ruan to 15 (add to team dynamic) or Steyn (add nothing to team dynamic, in fact, lose a lot of dynamic)?

  • Comment 61, posted at 26.08.09 09:49:16 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 61) :

    I guess what I am trying to say is this.

    Smit is not the best 3 we have in the country, or available to us (overseas guys), yet he is vital to the team, so you have to ‘accommodate’ his selection.

    And doing that, players around him need to adapt.

    All of this will of course change if Ruan works on his kicking and start to average 75% plus.

  • Comment 62, posted at 26.08.09 09:51:30 by Morné Reply
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  • Ruan can play anywhere!

  • Comment 63, posted at 26.08.09 10:00:51 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 62) : but he had one bad game with the boot and got dropped… hardly seems fair

  • Comment 64, posted at 26.08.09 10:01:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • But honestly -I agree with Rob here we need Ruan creativity more at 10 …and kicking Steyn can play his normal game at fullback.

    (Anyone else had login problems this morning?)

  • Comment 65, posted at 26.08.09 10:04:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) :

    No, his injuries compounded his development at 10 as well and then Steyn scored 90% of the point for the Boks in the 3N so far.

    Can you drop Steyn?

    I dont think so.

  • Comment 66, posted at 26.08.09 10:07:21 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 66) :

    Point is, Steyn at 10 currently adds more to the Bok dynamic than Pienaar.

  • Comment 67, posted at 26.08.09 10:08:35 by Morné Reply
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  • Steyn at 15 – what argument is there against that?

  • Comment 68, posted at 26.08.09 10:09:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 68) :

    He is a kak 15?

  • Comment 69, posted at 26.08.09 10:12:00 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 69) :
    He is a kak 10 too.

  • Comment 70, posted at 26.08.09 10:16:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 65) : what sort of problems?

    @Morné (Comment 69) : so is Pienaar

  • Comment 71, posted at 26.08.09 10:17:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 67) : by dynamic, do u mean “kick every bloody ball away so that the game is so boring that i prefer to clean up the house to get some rather than get pissed and watch the game” dynamic?

  • Comment 72, posted at 26.08.09 10:21:53 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 72) : I think so, yes. THAT dynamic :)

    You wanna come live at my house, BTW? You can clean up while I watch rugby!

  • Comment 73, posted at 26.08.09 10:37:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Morné has a point.

    Steyn has done nothing wrong when given his chance at Bok pivot. You can’t blame him for the kick ‘n chase game plan. Whereas Ruan came close to costing us some games because of his poor goal kicking.

    On the positional kicking thing, the Aus vs NZ game this past weekend was a game with the 2nd most amount of kicks in the 3N so far. Besides, is it the Boks’ fault that the opposition players a crappin themselves under the high ball and therefore stuffing it up. We are giving them the opportunity to play their “running” rugby and they duff it.

  • Comment 74, posted at 26.08.09 10:45:50 by Ollie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) :

    So you want to take an average 10 that can kick where he is a specialist, and play him at 15??? Where is the logic in that?

    @robdylan (Comment 71) :

    And you base that on what? When he debut coming on as a sub in 15?

    @willa (Comment 72) :

    By dynamic I mean you keep on winning your games…

    The Sharks of all supporters should know the importance of talking a good game (favourites for the Super 14 for the last 5 years) and an empty trophy cabinet…

  • Comment 75, posted at 26.08.09 10:49:02 by Morné Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 65) : yes, i make a comment & then i have to log on again, it’s as if the site is not remembering my password.

  • Comment 76, posted at 26.08.09 10:53:43 by quota Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 75) : I’m basing it on the game he played against Wales at 15 two years ago. He was defensively all over the show that day – and on every other occasion he’s had to play 15.

  • Comment 77, posted at 26.08.09 10:54:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 76) : have you ticked the “Remeber Me” box on the login page and do you have cookies enabled?

  • Comment 78, posted at 26.08.09 10:57:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) :

    He made his debut in 2006, so you are talking about a game in 2007??? But that was the World Cup year?

  • Comment 79, posted at 26.08.09 11:03:10 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) :

    @Morné (Comment 66) :

    Pienaar wasn’t dropped was he? He got injured and is now back from injury.

    There is quite a precednet for players coming back from injury and then going right back into the position they were in before injury.

  • Comment 80, posted at 26.08.09 11:06:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) :

    ” This webpage is not available.

    The webpage at http://www.sharksworld.co.za/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address. “

  • Comment 81, posted at 26.08.09 11:12:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 80) :

    Correct.

  • Comment 82, posted at 26.08.09 11:19:18 by Morné Reply
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  • Personally I would split the duties of the 2. Steyn for bad weather and kicking game, Pienaar for more open game.

    When Pienaar is around I would let Frans Steyn take the kicking duties. His avergae success % at the moment is not really fair since he gets all the long range shots.

    That being said though, I have no idea what the swapping of 10′s would do to the dynamics and morale.

  • Comment 83, posted at 26.08.09 11:24:22 by Ollie Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 81) : that’s really strange… since the webpage has definitely not moved…

  • Comment 84, posted at 26.08.09 11:25:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hey Rob…your site is playing games today :???: : very slow at downloading the blogs and when I tried to log in it told me the site was not available…then I exited and then returned, only to find I am now logged on :???:
    Now let’s see if it will submit my comment :???:

  • Comment 85, posted at 26.08.09 11:26:52 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 85) : That worked!!

  • Comment 86, posted at 26.08.09 11:27:42 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 79) : it was in the test against Wales after the World Cup. As I recall, Wales scored two tries as a result of Ruan’s poor defence at 15.

  • Comment 87, posted at 26.08.09 11:28:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 76) : @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 85) : I see I’m not the only one that has trouble with the site today. I’m also having trouble with justrugby. Could it be the webhosts that has a problem?

    This is first time I managed to even get further than the homepage

  • Comment 88, posted at 26.08.09 11:52:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • The WP mafia must have found out that SW is onto them and sabotaged the site. :wink: :mrgreen:

    As a WP supporter it’s obviously working fine for me. :grin:

  • Comment 89, posted at 26.08.09 12:13:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 89) : :razz:

  • Comment 90, posted at 26.08.09 12:26:11 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 89) :

    Working fine my side too.

  • Comment 91, posted at 26.08.09 12:39:36 by Morné Reply
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  • Are all of you having the problem using Telkom ADSL, by any chance?

  • Comment 92, posted at 26.08.09 12:51:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 91) : it’s also fine for me. GASP! Could this mean I’m a closet WP supporter without even realising it?

  • Comment 93, posted at 26.08.09 12:54:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • i have no problem with ruan at fullback. frans is heading north so we need backup. he has the boot for the job. frans is good, but if he isn’t going to be available to the boks in the future lets not waste time. i would rather have ruan on the field than on the bench.

  • Comment 94, posted at 26.08.09 12:57:52 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) : its perth so the strain on the players isn’t as bad as it would have been had it been aus east coast or nz.

  • Comment 95, posted at 26.08.09 13:00:42 by try time (superrugby's kryptonite is SANZAR) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 92) : No…I’m using Mweb

  • Comment 96, posted at 26.08.09 13:52:54 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 96) : please go to http://dev.sharksworld.co.za and tell me if you have similar problems there?

  • Comment 97, posted at 26.08.09 14:08:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 97) :
    :???: all the threads are years old on that site & it took forever to open!

  • Comment 98, posted at 26.08.09 14:27:02 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 98) :
    Don’t worry I’ll justplay a game of solitaire in between posts :lol:

  • Comment 99, posted at 26.08.09 14:29:24 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 98) : ok – I just wanted to make sure it also took forever to open.

    How about this: http://www.sharksworld.biz

  • Comment 100, posted at 26.08.09 14:47:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 100) : That one opened like a flash & just said “Welcome to Sharksworld.biz” :???:

  • Comment 101, posted at 26.08.09 15:20:20 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 101) : ok, interesting. So it definitely sounds like a network issue…

    But what to do about it, is the question.

  • Comment 102, posted at 26.08.09 15:35:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 101) : please open a command prompt and type “tracert http://www.sharksworld.co.za” and email me the result.

  • Comment 103, posted at 26.08.09 15:39:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • If PDivvy takes Puts Ruan in for Frans, then he doesn’t have the interests the Bokke or the Fans at heart – and that means he has learned nothing….trying not to work myself up before we see the run on side….Ruan isn’t match fit and in all honesty probably doesn’t have a lot of confidence right now either, and the Aussies are gonna everything and the kitchen sink at us on Saturday – So putting him in, out of position is just too risky. Morne at 15, Frans at 12 and Ruan at 10. Frans is way better than JDV and ADI anyway…

    To all those battling with their connections – switch of you modems for a few seconds – it sorted my problems out…

  • Comment 104, posted at 26.08.09 16:03:39 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Now John Bishop has a source that tells him Ruan will be at 15? :sad:

    Ruan Pienaar will be at fullback when the Springboks face the Wallabies in the Tri-Nations international on Saturday, a source close to the Springbok team told The Witness on Wednesday.

  • Comment 105, posted at 27.08.09 08:06:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 105) : it must have been Gavin Rich :-)

  • Comment 106, posted at 27.08.09 08:24:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 106) : yeah you’re right rob, funny thing is though, i watched a live broadcast from perth on supersport this morning @ 6:30 where pdv motivated his decision to start ruan @ 15…

    He said “ruan needs game time to get his confidence back & that fransie is still part of the set-up & it is no reflection on steyn’s performance”

  • Comment 107, posted at 27.08.09 08:29:31 by quota Reply

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  • Its official PDivvy is a muppet…. :evil: :evil: :evil:

  • Comment 108, posted at 27.08.09 09:12:39 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 108) : you bought a Racing jersey yet? :)

  • Comment 109, posted at 27.08.09 09:57:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • I have been trying to find out where I can get one – the Racing site is all in French…and havent figured it out yet. Any ideas? :grin:

  • Comment 110, posted at 27.08.09 10:04:43 by Just a Fan Reply

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