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Sharks fuelling EP revival


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Other SA Teams, Sharks on 9 Sep 2009 at 11:11
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The Eastern Province Mighty Elephants are currently third on the Currie Cup first division log – better than they have done in living memory. Am I the only one who has noticed more than a few familiar names in their squad this year?

Now we all know that the “player loan” thing is a bit of a joke at the moment, with players moving at will between premier and first division sides – the most extreme case involves the Griffons picking whoever fails to make the Cheetahs match 22 in a given week. It seems as though the Sharks are doing more or less the same thing with the Elephants, although trying to get official confirmation out of the Union is impossible, as always.

I know for a fact that Jacques Potgieter, the bearded loose forward who has made the Elephants number 7 jersey his own this year, is playing for them on a loan basis. I see that Vodacom Cup number 8, Warren Whiteley, made the Elephants bench last week and can only assume that he is also there on loan. Big Ruahan van Jaarsveld, who spent the Vodacom Cup season training with the Sharks XV (yet never made the side) is also down in PE at the moment, although that may well be a permanent move.

Among the backs, former Sharks utility back Carl Bezuidenhout seems to have made the Bay his home, while Wesley “Horse” Dunlop, a former Sharks under 21 flyhalf (and brother of current under 21 forward Cameron) seems to have cemented the pivotal role in the Elephants backline – alongside an unknown young inside centre called Barry de Wet, or something like that.

The Sharks connection doesn’t end there, with a veritable slew of other players in the mix who have represented the Sharks at some stage or other. Both wingers, Howard Noble and Rocco Jansen have pulled on the jersey, although the latter only played for us in a warm-up game before being bundled off back to Pretoria. Sangoni Mxoli, who has been languishing in Bulls country for several seasons now, since leaving the Sharks via the Valke, is also down in PE these days and seemingly loving his rugby.

One does wonder, though, how much good this does for the development of the local players in the region…



87 Comments

  • Like the Southern Kings against the British Lions, a veritable who’s who of locally bred and developed talent.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.09.09 11:54:08 by Baldrick Reply
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  • “One does wonder, though, how much good this does for the development of the local players in the region…”

    Bit of a chicken and the egg situation. It obviously does local development no good, but on the other hand, there doesn’t seem to be any good local players there anyway. The only way young talented players are going to stay in PE is if the EPRU is run more professionally and able to offer these players a competitive salary.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.09.09 12:00:29 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 2) : true. Perhaps by building somewhat more of a winning culture by using imported players, they’ll create the right sort of environment to bring the local guys through.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.09.09 12:02:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : @CapeShark (Comment 2) : yes but how many eastern province players are scooped up the academies before they can offer ep any value. How many sharks and bulls players hail from that part of the world? professionalism killed the local player plays for his province scenario.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.09.09 12:11:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 4) : exactly. But it should always be a first option, shouldn’t it? I mean, if you grow up in Pretoria, don’t you view playing for the Bulls as first prize? Likewise, I’m sure most of the guys in Durbs and Maritzburg would prefer to play for the Sharks than for another team. Perhaps if EP was anything other than an utter joke – and had their own academy structure – local kids would aspire to playing for them.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.09.09 12:53:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think this is long overdue.

    Too often are talented rugby players wasted in club or VC leagues because they are bound by contract, whereas they can not only improve their own game with game time but also improve rugby skills and levels countrywide and upskill local lads by doing so too.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.09.09 13:07:15 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : well, one thing is for sure – it’s helped me choose a team to support in the first division. GO EP!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.09.09 13:30:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • i have no idea why robdylan feels compelled to denigrate EP and call them a joke! On what basis are they a joke rob? Have you assessed the progress of the current executive since they took over in november last year? The probes that involve the former scorpions into allegations of corruption, the whole organisation behind the southern kings franchise?

    EP is a joke compared to what rob?

    how many players born & bred in durban or the kzn currently play for the sharks rob?

    How many pretoria locals are turning out for the bulls right now! How many boys from the EP craven week did the bulls contract last year & this year?

    one of the outstanding players in the ep craven week, siya kolisi got a contract with the cheetahs, what does that say about the kids in the free state, couldn’t they get a flanker from grey bloem?

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.09.09 14:17:30 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 8) : I’m talking about their results over the last ten years, dude. I’m glad to hear they’re making strides now but over the last decade, considering that they started out as one of the “big six”, their slide towards the bottom of the first division has been nothing short of disgraceful.

    When they win the First Division and gain promotion to the Currie Cup proper, I may reassess my opinion. But that does imply that they’ll need to do better than Boland and the Leopards, who I also consider a real joke.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.09.09 14:28:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : any bright spark ideas from your side on how they can be successful?

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.09.09 14:40:00 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 8) : Because they SUCK!

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.09.09 14:41:00 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Even back in the day I can hardly remember the ‘old’ EP even getting close to a currie cup final let alone winning it. :roll:

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.09.09 14:44:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 10) : last time I checked, the national union poured a fair bit of money into each of the 14 provinces. EP seems to have squandered every red cent through ineffective administration at best and downright fraud and embezzlement at worst.

    I hope that the rot has now well and truly stopped. The current strategy might just pay dividends… buy a team, get some success and start to rebuild a strong brand. Once you have that in place – hearts and minds of the local fans will follow. There’s not much money in the region, sure, but they should still be able to get good crowd attendance if the local public buys into the team and what they’re trying to achieve.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.09.09 14:44:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think EP won the yardly cup or something. :smile:

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.09.09 14:45:13 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) : they won the Yardley Cup in 1986. Only trophy they’ve ever won

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.09.09 14:46:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 14) : @robdylan (Comment 15) : Snap!!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.09.09 14:47:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yardley Gold Cup. Beat Tvl 12-9

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.09.09 14:47:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 17) : how they must hark back to those halcyon days

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.09.09 14:50:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : More like halcyon day. :twisted:

    Now if the beat the Border Chihuahuas they’re happy.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.09.09 14:54:33 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) : nah dude.

    They’re happy if they draw with Border.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.09.09 15:10:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    I will support my province of birth there, SWD!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.09.09 15:14:45 by Morné Reply
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  • Quota is right in one respect though, I am hearing good things from the current administration.

    Cheeky Watson is seemingly doing a very good job at EP Rugby. Hope it continues.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.09.09 15:16:11 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 21) : you and kandas are their only two supporters :-)

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.09.09 15:16:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) :

    Hey at least they cut their ownership ties with SA rugby!!!

    They are on the right path!

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.09.09 15:20:00 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Maybe they just DO NOT have the local support from the locals, ’cause they are not really interested in watching rugby?

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.09.09 15:20:37 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 25) : but we’re told that EP is the country’s rugby nursery… surely there must be interest there? Or is it all just a lie?

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.09.09 15:32:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 24) : true that

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.09.09 15:34:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    There’s definitely a lot of rugby interest in EP.

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.09.09 15:48:54 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 28) : So why don’t they attend games??
    I would say there is a far greater tedirion of rugby playing schools in the Border area…and their games are pretty well attended when you consider the size of East London, compared with PE.
    SWD also have great supporters……

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.09.09 16:00:27 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 29) : :o “tedirion” honestly don’t know where that came from :oops: TRADITION :~)

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.09.09 16:02:25 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) :

    Oh gawd…chucky is in the house!! :shock:

    @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 29) :

    But the Sharks have the BESTEST!! :lol: ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.09.09 16:15:29 by Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) Reply
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  • @Prof. Ice Babe(Super Girl) (Comment 31) : YEBO!!! SHARKS FOREVER :!: :!: :!:

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.09.09 16:21:55 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 30) : i thought it was a new word, like ameliorate.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.09.09 16:22:19 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 33) :

    Heheheheheeeee!!

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.09.09 16:29:18 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 14) : @robdylan (Comment 15) : What the hell was the Yardley Cup? Sorry. Bit before my time. :oops:

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.09.09 10:26:35 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 35) : Fully

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.09.09 10:43:48 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Looks like I was wrong about Pottie… he’s signed for EP now

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.09.09 11:00:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : Talk about signing up for a career in the pondocks….

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.09.09 11:03:25 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    The guy from Bulls?? the one with the bicycle face??

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.09.09 11:09:53 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 38) : talking about pondocks, theres a sequel to Boondock Saints set for release.

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.09.09 11:10:42 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 36) : Fully what? ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.09.09 11:13:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 39) : Bicycle face?? :oops:

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.09.09 11:13:32 by klempie Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 40) : Yea i saw…..hope they don’t FIU…the first still rates as one of my Fav movies.

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.09.09 11:14:47 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 42) :

    as jy hom sien, wil jy hom trap.. :twisted:

  • Comment 44, posted at 10.09.09 11:15:59 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 39) : no. OUR Pottie. You read the article? :-)

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.09.09 11:16:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 44) : Ohhhhhhhh :)

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.09.09 11:18:00 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 35) : Some mickey comp we used to do in the isolation years to keep us occupied. See also Mnet night Series or something.

    All before internet, cell phones etc.

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.09.09 11:20:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) :

    :oops: :oops: :lol: Uitgevang!

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.09.09 11:21:48 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 47) : We were too poor for Mnet. :cry:

  • Comment 49, posted at 10.09.09 11:24:23 by klempie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 47) : Think it was the follow on from the Lion Cup and it predates the Nite Series…..

    Does the Vodacom Cup even run anymore?

  • Comment 50, posted at 10.09.09 11:27:36 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 49) : You didn’t miss much. Think only about 3/4 teams took part. Didn’t last long.

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.09.09 11:29:14 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 50) : No idea. Loved the Lion Cup though. Minnows got to play the big boys.

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.09.09 11:32:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 52) : I also like the knock out nature of the Lion Cup….was a great comp

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.09.09 11:45:59 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 52) :

    Remember Lion beer?? I use to prefer that to Castle.. ;-)

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.09.09 11:46:23 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 54) : Oh yes. :cool:

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.09.09 11:48:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • I liked the MNET Nite Series… it was for the teams not playing Super 10. They wore funky jerseys

  • Comment 56, posted at 10.09.09 11:48:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) : After that Travesty that was the “Western Stormers” first Super 14 jersey – the designer should have been hung in Green Market Square…i just wish the Stormers would play in the streep truie….

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.09.09 11:54:31 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 54) : Olhssons ? Anyone….

    Lion was good but it had to be frozen for actual enjoyment.

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.09.09 11:55:51 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 58) :

    I remember Ohlssons cause they used to sponsor some locar football comp – but i was too young to drink it then… :sad:

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.09.09 12:01:27 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 58) :

    Millers for local – thanks..(Grolsch and Soll is another few favourites)

    Any beer IMO needs to be YSKOUD!!

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.09.09 12:01:36 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 59) :

    and now you are neing told by the dr. to take it easy?? :twisted:

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.09.09 12:02:33 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 57) : Amen!

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.09.09 12:03:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • Heineken are my fav lager or whatever is on special at the supermarket. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.09.09 12:04:36 by McLovin Reply

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  • Found this gem…

    This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion Of National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Marine Corps General Reinwald who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military installation.

    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?
    GENERAL REINWALD: We’re going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting.
    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That’s a bit irresponsible, isn’t it?
    GENERAL REINWALD: I don’t see why, they’ll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don’t you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
    GENERAL REINWALD: I don’t see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you’re equipping them to become violent killers.
    GENERAL REINWALD: Well, you’re equipped to be a prostitute, but you’re not one, are you?
    The radio went silent and the interview ended.

    :lol:

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.09.09 12:06:01 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 59) : You didn’t miss anything….

    @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 60) : Bleugh all falvoured water….. :twisted:

    Windhoek Draught or a Bosuns Bitter – ice farking cold !

    @McLovin (Comment 62) : Hallelujah

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.09.09 12:08:56 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Sol with a slice of lemon also goes down well on a warm day.

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.09.09 12:09:02 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 63) : Dog in the Fog ?

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.09.09 12:10:59 by rekinek Reply
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  • Windhoek’s also lekker. Get some from my local SA shop on once in a while. :smile:

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.09.09 12:11:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 65) :

    @McLovin (Comment 66) :

    Eggsaketillie – I like a refreshing drink – had a few imports which hit the living daylights out of me after a sip or two!! So i prefer the lighter versions! :lol:

    Do you know why they serve lemon with Sol? as I have it – its a methid of cleaining / sanitising the bottle (mexico – lots of flies) so they actyully clean the rim with the lemon and through it away – unlike us we druk die ding binne in die borrel – but it does give it a nice fresh taste!

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.09.09 12:13:40 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 67) : :?:

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.09.09 12:13:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 69) :

    Golly Gosh!! Looking at my post – looks like I get drunk just TALKING about beer!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.09.09 12:15:19 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 69) : Interesting.

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.09.09 12:15:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • US SHIP: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

    CANADIAN REPLY: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

    US SHIP: This is the Captain of the US Navy Ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

    CANADIAN REPLY: No, I say again, divert YOUR course!

    US SHIP: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS MISSOURI. WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW OR WE WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE AND DRASTIC MEASURES!!!!

    CANADIAN REPLY: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.09.09 12:16:18 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 61) :

    I drink with my doctor… :mrgreen:

    @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 60) :

    I also swear by MGD these days. Yeah…water ..blah blah – but it keeps me sane…
    @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 65) :

    Windhoek Draught works at the Shark-Tank :razz: and Windhoek is generally a good brand…

  • Comment 74, posted at 10.09.09 12:19:59 by blackshark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 70) : a beer or ale – not known i guess

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 64) : @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 73) :
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 76, posted at 10.09.09 12:22:24 by blackshark Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 75) : Not a fan of ale at all me. I’d rather drink dishwater. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 10.09.09 12:23:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 77) :

    All this beer talk is unsafe for “working hours” on a Phuza Thirstday… ;-)

  • Comment 78, posted at 10.09.09 12:33:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 78) : Makes me thirsty. :twisted:

  • Comment 79, posted at 10.09.09 12:37:04 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 77) : I know the feeling

  • Comment 80, posted at 10.09.09 13:12:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : sorry just found my computer under the paperwork. yes it would be nice, but in theory when professionalism arrived it was the death knell of provincialism. thats why the teams are called the sharks, the bulls, the lions and not natal, northern transvaal and transvaal. it is a sad change, but one i suppose we have to accept.

  • Comment 81, posted at 10.09.09 14:24:51 by try time Reply

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  • Why are they called the ‘mighty’ elephants? IMO it’s not a good idea to include an adjective in your team name. :twisted:

  • Comment 82, posted at 10.09.09 14:31:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 82) : yeah imagine if we had to find an adjective for the sharks. the choking sharks may be true but it doesn’t go down well. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 10.09.09 14:35:41 by try time Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 82) : I suspect they’ve been a little loath to utter the “mighty” part out loud in recent years…

  • Comment 84, posted at 10.09.09 14:41:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • mighty losers is the only time you would.

  • Comment 85, posted at 10.09.09 14:44:15 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 83) : “choking sharks” is very apt! :D

  • Comment 86, posted at 10.09.09 15:30:18 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 86) : as opposed to “drowning Valke”…

  • Comment 87, posted at 10.09.09 15:48:27 by robdylan Reply
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