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Injuries cast Currie Cup doubts


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Cheetahs, Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content, Sharks, WP on 28 Sep 2009 at 20:52
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With the top six teams all still in with a real shot at the Currie Cup semis and heading into two weeks of critical games, the injury bogey seems to have struck, removing some key players as the competition reaches its business end.

With arguably the easiest run-in to the play-offs, the Cheetahs should manage to pick up ten points against Boland and the Leopards, although they’ll be forced to do so without their inspirational captain, Adriaan Strauss. One of the form hookers in the country at the moment, Strauss looks set to miss out on rest of the season thanks to a thumb injury and his loss will be more keenly felt in the knockout stages than it will be now. The Cheetahs’ destiny, though, is no longer solely in their own hands and they’ll need the Lions to lose at least one of their upcoming matches, as well as hoping that Griquas pick up no more than one point in total against the Bulls and the Sharks. A tough ask, but you’d have to say that it’s looking pretty good for them. Strauss’s cousin Richardt will get some much-needed gametime ahead of his move to Ireland next year, but it remains to be seen whether promising number 8 Ashley Johnston will be pressed into service as a reserve hooker.

The Bulls have now forced their way into the top 4 and will look to press on against Griquas this weekend. Now only two points behind the Kimberley crew, a win will see them consolidate third place, which will probably be the highest they can really hope to attain, barring a real disaster for either Province or the Sharks. They have also lost a hooker, though, with Chilliboy Rallepele to sit the next few weeks out with an injured foot. In Bandise Maku they have an able replacement, though and the team is only getting stronger with Bryan Habana set to return this week. Fourie du Preez and Bakkies Botha are still on the sidelines but they should come back into the picture in time for the semi finals.

The Lions really are the dark horse team here – or rather, not to give them more credit than they deserve, they are the team with the most potential to upset the apple cart, should they manage to beat either the Sharks away, or Western Province at home. They’ll obviously be going all out to claim both scalps, since their own ridiculously slender play-off hopes hinge on them picking up two wins, along with as many bonus points as are needed to edge Griquas and the Cheetahs out of fourth place. Having lost their only really class backline player, Janno Vermaak, it’s going to be an uphill struggle, but I can’t shake the feeling that the Lions may just have one more surprising performance in them this season.

As for the Sharks and Province – well, it couldn’t be more neck-and-neck, but after the latter’s impressive points difference against Griquas and with a gimme game to come against Boland, the Sharks will, in all likelihood, find themselves going into the final weekend in second place, Province having overtaken them, virtue of a five-point thrashing of Boland. The Sharks can avoid this scenario, of course, by scoring a bonus point of their own against the Lions. That may turn out to be easier said than done, though. The following week should see the tables turned again, though, with the Sharks fancying their chances of a full house against a Griquas team that now looks as though the fight has gone out of them. Province will also be chasing a bonus point at the Coke Tin, though and anyone who claims that first and second positions have already been decided has clearly not done their homework.

On the injury front, Province will be without winger Gio Aplon for the next two weeks – a blow, as the pint-size sevens specialist has been in good form. The Sharks are still without Jean Deysel and Craig Burden, but both should be back in time for the trip to Kimberley. Coach John Plumtree has some selection headaches this week as he welcomes back Beast Mtawarira, John Smit, Johann Muller, Riaan Swanepoel, JP Pietersen and Odwa Ndungane.



74 Comments

  • This last couple of rounds are going to be stressfull albeit interresting. I think will indeed start with, Beast, Biz, Smit, Muller and Sykes as the tight 5, Botes and Kanko and then Rhodes at 7 unless Deysel makes a recovery in time.

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.09.09 06:38:15 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • the biggest headache though (that in all fairness shouldn’t be) is whether johan muller should be given the captaincy back. do we really want to tamper with something that is working. i have never seen the backline as committed under johan. i would give it to stefan as he has gotten the team this far.

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.09.09 07:28:27 by try time Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 1) : why not put sykes at 7 to counter baywatch and co. sykes has more experience and has the strength needed. i’d go beast, bis, smit, johan, vd berg, botes, sykes, ryan, ruan, juan, mvovo, swannie/strauss, murray, ??? (not happy with the choices here), stefan.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.09.09 07:34:31 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 3) : ok put burden 14. he can’t be worse than zuks or adi at the moment. and with him on the field you have an extra forager. and he won’t be in the scrum to weaken it.

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.09.09 07:36:46 by try time Reply

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  • rory at 14 could also be a suggestion. wings aren’t reknown for their distribution skills, nor is rory. and with him on the field we have an extra kicking option. but the riot act must be laid down before he gets on the field that he will not get in ruans way. i sometimes wonder if rory is a law unto himself.

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.09.09 08:01:31 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 2) :

    Stefan should be the man, and if they want to change it, then John should take over. I think a point was made in these last week of 6..

    @try time (Comment 3) :

    I wont go for those drastic measures now…just not comfortable with that idea..

    BTW – good morning! :grin:

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.09.09 08:03:43 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 6) : morning.

    i am even less comfortable with zuks and adi on the field.

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.09.09 08:14:25 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 4) : burden is injured, out for the rest of the season :sad:

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.09.09 08:16:56 by war1 Reply
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  • the team for this weekend will probably be quite a good one, and hopefully the sharks were taught a lesson in not being complacent against the leopards

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  • @war1 (Comment 8) : doh. teaches me for not reading the last paragraph of rob’s article properly. although the way burden played in open play this year did beg the question should he be given more chances in the first team. he is weak in the scrum though. so hooker may not be his best position. well then it might have to be rory. :???:

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.09.09 08:23:53 by try time Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 9) : i would like to believe that but history shows that the sharks never learn about complacency. just look back to the s14 this year, after losing to the reds did we learn…no. we go out against the cheetahs and get our asses kicked.

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.09.09 08:25:54 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 10) :

    Seems you REALLY looking for a spot for Rory to play.. :lol:

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.09.09 08:39:56 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 12) : :lol: well as much as i dislike his selfishness, he does have talent. he is good with kicks and he defends well. it is just a pity that as a scrumhalf, selfishness is the worst thing you can be. thats why i would like to see him on the wing. his boot can help stefan at the back, and ruan and juan can focus on creating tries without the pressure of place kicking.

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.09.09 08:46:18 by try time Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 12) : imagine a wing that actually adds something to a backline other than standing around picking his nose waiting to catch or chase a ball.

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.09.09 08:47:48 by try time Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 12) : oh and i have been meaning to ask you isn’t it supposed to be spelt windgat.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.09.09 08:51:05 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 11) : i was trying to be positive :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.09.09 08:54:41 by war1 Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 13) : @try time (Comment 14) :

    So you aRE see-ri-as? :shock: ;-)

    @try time (Comment 15) :

    I am 110% convinced it was spelled correctly…someone is trying to make me look like a blonde!! :sad: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.09.09 09:04:50 by SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 16) : when it comes to the sharks all my positivity ended after the fifth super trophy they threw away. :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.09.09 09:06:41 by try time Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 17) : i am not afrikaans, so i’ll take your word for it. it just looks odd considering wind is spelt the same in afrikaans. and there is a song called kinders van die wind not win. when i see your spelling it is hard to know where to split the word. at win-gat or wing-at. the d breaks it properly. just my silly opinion. :lol:

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.09.09 09:11:46 by try time Reply

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  • @SuperGirl Ice Babe(Wingat because I CAN!) (Comment 17) : yes i am being serious. sadly without jp and odwa wing is looking empty.

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.09.09 09:13:45 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 19) :

    Pffft! It IS winDgat…I think and admin changed it.. :lol:

    win-gat – could be a good one…coz I believe we can WIN.. ;-)

    And in future…if I want your silly opinion…I’ll beat it out of you! :twisted:

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.09.09 09:15:01 by ICE Windgat Supergirl Reply
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  • why would we want to play anyone other than Odwa and JP on the wing? You guys confuse me.

    BTW, Burden isn’t out for the season. He should be back next week

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.09.09 09:31:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ICE Windgat Supergirl (Comment 21) : bloody admin. i remember when they kicked off that ridiculous ksa wannabie dude. :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.09.09 09:34:32 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : aren’t odwa and jp still injured?

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.09.09 09:35:05 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : ok i see you have included them on the returning list, i thought their injuries were more serious.

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.09.09 09:41:48 by try time Reply

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  • rob: yes i see you have taken the info from the last paragragh of the sharksrugby article. :lol: so they are back, that is a relief. but do we want to drop mvovo just yet. you are right plum has a big headache. the incoming forwards almost pick themselves, but the backline is a more delicate balancing act.

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.09.09 09:50:09 by try time Reply

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  • well that kills that discussion, damn. so we back to the boring days where we nitpick the regular starters after poor performances and wasted opportunities. i prefer the challenges of player shortages. :lol: but it doesn’t mean i wish that on the sharks.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.09.09 10:04:34 by try time Reply

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  • oh well, now we wait for the team announcement on thursday. nothing much else to discuss.

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.09.09 10:05:58 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : my bad, overreaction. good news then :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.09.09 10:09:00 by war1 Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 28) : yeah, there is lots more out there to discuss

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.09.09 10:10:10 by war1 Reply
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  • @ICE Windgat Supergirl (Comment 21) : Sies Ice, kan jy nie eers windgat spel nie :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.09.09 10:13:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) :

    issie ek nie…dis een vannie vyande.. :lol:

    Miskien is dit tyd vir GI Ice om tot die combat to toe te treee…. :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.09.09 10:18:00 by ICE Windgat Supergirl Reply
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  • there’s lots to discuss still…

    like who do you play at 12? And 13?

    I agree that it might be premature to drop Lwazi, but we know who our semi-final back 3 is, so we must get them onto the park.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.09.09 10:23:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : how about adi at 12 and waylon at 13?

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.09.09 10:26:09 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 34) : to be honest, I reckon that’s about the best attacking combo we can come up with. I REALLY like Swannie, but he’s young and his time will come. If we don’t play Waylon, he’ll leave and I don’t think we want to lose him as well.

    Imagine a bench with Kockott, Swannie and Mvovo on it? Pretty potent

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.09.09 10:42:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ICE Windgat Supergirl (Comment 32) : Dink net mooi daaraan…..die wind kom uit die gat uit. :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.09.09 10:43:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I would do this… bit of a no-brainer, really…

    1 Beast
    2 Bis
    3 John (c)
    4 Sykes
    5 Muller
    6 Botes
    7 Deysel (Rhodes or Downey till he is fit)
    8 Kanko
    9 Ruan
    10 Juan
    11 JPP
    12 Adi
    13 Waylon
    14 Odwa
    15 Stef
    16 Burden (Carstens till he is fit)
    17 Jannie
    18 Albert
    19 Keegan
    20 Rory
    21 Swannie
    22 Lwazi

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.09.09 10:53:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : yeah, that would be a good bench, also think that combo would work well for both adi and waylon’s future bok ambitions

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.09.09 10:54:16 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : that looks like a really good team :smile:

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.09.09 10:56:17 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 38) :

    I hope Waylon get back to what he was / could be…he really seems a bit scared lately (I suppose after being out so long – It’s just human) but will he get over it??

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.09.09 10:57:32 by GI ICE (Be afraid) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    On paper this is truly a MASSIVE team!!

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.09.09 10:58:50 by GI ICE (Be afraid) Reply
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  • @GI ICE (Be afraid) (Comment 41) : this team is capable of winning the cc, it’s now up to plum and the rest of the coaching staff to get them properly prepared

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.09.09 11:12:53 by war1 Reply
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  • @GI ICE (Be afraid) (Comment 41) : not bad, hey?

    I feel really bad about leaving Deon out. Hopefully, if they introduce a 23-man squad next year, we can have him in the picture as well. But I think he’s all but signed with Province anyway.

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.09.09 11:13:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :

    How did I miss all these things??

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.09.09 11:14:45 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : do you think plum will have smit as captain?

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.09.09 11:16:43 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : :shock: did not hear that one, is this from an unnamed source? or have i not been internet searching well enough?

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.09.09 11:19:21 by war1 Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 44) : you need to read the articles, meisie :)

    @war1 (Comment 45) : I’m not actually sure about that. I doubt it, to be honest.

    @war1 (Comment 46) : unnamed source, but very credible.

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.09.09 11:25:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) :

    Outjie, that is one of my very few not so strong points, and you know it! ;-)

    See – war1 also did not know that.. :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.09.09 11:30:04 by GI Ice Reply
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  • BTW, I see Keo reckons Plum has confirmed that Stef will retain the captaincy.

    I find that strange to say the least. After the Cheetahs game, Plum was in no mood to confirm anything about the captaincy. I don’t see why that would be any different now.

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.09.09 11:33:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : read the article i just posted, apparently plum did say something like that, but no confirmations

  • Comment 50, posted at 29.09.09 11:39:18 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 50) : just found it. Sounds credible.

    Good call, anyway. Continuity and all that

  • Comment 51, posted at 29.09.09 11:51:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Anyone know when Deysel will be fit again? I don`t want to face wp or the Bulls without him . . .

  • Comment 52, posted at 29.09.09 13:28:07 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • PPPRRRRROOOOOVVVVIIINNNNNNCCCCCEEEEE!!!

    Die Currie Cup kom weer!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 29.09.09 13:34:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 53) :

    Dagdroom jy alweer.. :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 54, posted at 29.09.09 13:37:03 by GI Ice Reply
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  • What’s the deal with Boland this weekend. About half the team will be from WP. Plus some WP players being rested. :?:

  • Comment 55, posted at 29.09.09 13:38:50 by McLovin Reply

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  • WP plant their men in Boland team to ensure Bonus Points. Fairly obvious ploy . . .

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.09.09 13:40:34 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 55) :

    and then they see their asses… :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 57, posted at 29.09.09 13:41:28 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 56) : I hope so. :twisted:

    @GI Ice (Comment 57) : That’s what worries me. :neutral:

  • Comment 58, posted at 29.09.09 13:44:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 57) : I wouldn`t bet on it. WP have such an easy run in to the semi`s, they are definately favourites to finish top of the log.
    Then Sharks have to face Bulls at home, if we get through that we have to travel to The Most Beautifull City to face the only team that had our number this year ( er in the curry cup that is ).

  • Comment 59, posted at 29.09.09 13:45:34 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 59) :

    I believe in upsets… ;-)

  • Comment 60, posted at 29.09.09 13:53:21 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Wonder if Lions would want to . . . borrow some of our players for their last match against WP? Pat Lambie maybe along with Swanepoel. Both are better than their current prospects and if they can do us a favour against wp . . .

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 61) :

    Doing some serious planning here?? :lol:

  • Comment 62, posted at 29.09.09 14:03:41 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Hey what`s good for the Goose . . .

  • Comment 63, posted at 29.09.09 14:11:43 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • How does SARU (if indeed they do) police this loan business?

  • Comment 64, posted at 29.09.09 14:12:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 63) :

    Did not know Retief is also part of WP’s set-up?? :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 29.09.09 14:16:11 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 52) : if not next week, then definitely for the semis

  • Comment 66, posted at 29.09.09 14:27:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 64) : they quite clearly don’t

  • Comment 67, posted at 29.09.09 14:27:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Just checked…the most people on SW was on 16 May 2008 – S14 Blues vs Canes..we were all hoping for a Vlues win and it happened.. :grin:

    we still did not get the trophy.. :evil:

  • Comment 68, posted at 29.09.09 14:32:40 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : just confirmed with Jean. He might, at a push, be fit for this weekend already.

  • Comment 69, posted at 29.09.09 14:39:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) :

    FB up and running again?? :lol:

  • Comment 70, posted at 29.09.09 14:45:06 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 70) : not for me… I have a weird network problem.

    No, I am in telephonic contact with a few of the players. It’s all so I can get the best info for you guys!

  • Comment 71, posted at 29.09.09 14:53:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) :

    My Hero!! ;-)

  • Comment 72, posted at 29.09.09 14:58:30 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Why is it so QUIET??? :|

  • Comment 73, posted at 29.09.09 15:36:56 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : Great news :smile:

  • Comment 74, posted at 29.09.09 15:45:45 by Pokkel Reply
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