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Sharks now have the goods


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 30 Sep 2009 at 10:03
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With the news that Bismarck and Jannie du Plessis are set to extend their stay at the Sharks (even though it’s only because they’ve seemingly exhausted all other avenues), the Sharks look like having the sort of squad that could really challenge for Super 14 honours next year.

The front row has long been the heart of the Sharks’ forward power, with a quartet of Bok props in Beast Mtawarira, John Smit, Deon Carstens and Jannie du Plessis on the books. Although rumours continue to abound that Carstens may well be lost ahead of the 2010 season, the likes of Pat Cilliers (at loosehead) and Wiehahn Herbst should provide adequate cover in the front row, particularly with the 8-man bench looming. Bismarck du Plessis will have the impressive Craig Burden, who has taken huge strides in this year’s Currie Cup, as his backup, with young Kyle Cooper also keen to take the step up to senior rugby in 2010.

The situation could have been so different had the Bethlehem brothers opted to leave. The prospect of a front-row containing Smit at hooker and Herbst at tighthead – or Smit at 3 with Burden in the number 2 shirt – is not a good one at Super 14 level, particularly if you consider what the bench options would look like in those cases. There is plenty of young talent but as we’ve seen in the Currie Cup, not all of those young guys are quite ready to be thrust into the cauldron of Super 14 rugby just yet.

In the second row, it’s quite possible that Big Albert will finally bow out at the end of this season, but in Johann Muller, Steven Sykes and the newly signed Gerhardt Mostert, the Sharks look to have a second row capable of providing a good platform both in the scrums and the lineouts. Alistair Hargreaves will continue to develop as well, as will Mike Rhodes, who looks a good option coming off the bench to provide a higher tempo game in the second row. Looking at the younger crop, Jandré Marais is a player with a bright future who has done it all at age-group level and will look to make strides in the senior team in 2010.

Loose forward remains a headache of sorts, though. When asked about his squad ahead of the Super 14, Johm Plumtree acknowledged to yours truly that he is short of an experienced big loosie and that procurement was underway – presumably referring to the long-rumoured acquisition of Lions number 8 Willem Alberts. Sharksworld understands that that deal is definitely on the cards, but may well be caught up in contractual red tape just the way Jaque Fourie’s move to Western Province has been. In Jean Deysel and Ryan Kankowski, the Sharks have the makings of a superb loose trio, while Jacques Botes and Keegan Daniel have both shown themselves able to deliver the goods at Super 14 level. The former is getting on a bit, though and although he will definitely still be in the picture in 2010, it’s vital that the Sharks start to make up their minds about who his long-term successor is. Keegan Daniel has never looked as good at 6 as he has at the back of the scrum, while Skollie Ndlovu has had limited opportunities to impress. Justin Downey may just prove to be the man that Plumtree has earmarked for the openside role going forward and one would hope that he’d be given the opportunity to settle in this position in 2010 if that is indeed Plumtree’s plan. Alberts, should he arrive, will add a huge number of options to the mix. Let’s also not forget Warren Whiteley, the impressive Vodacom Cup number 8 who is just the latest in a long line of players to be loaned out to Eastern Province.

To say that there is an embarrassment of riches at halfback would be a gross understatement and the challenge, as always, will be to figure out how to keep all of Ruan Pienaar, Rory Kockott, Juan Hernandez, Charl McLeod, Monty Dumond and the two Cronjés happy, motivated and fit, while still maintaining continuity in the attacking axis. The loss of Frans Steyn, described by Plumtree as a “freak”, will be felt, but Riaan Swanepoel has come through with flying colours and together with Adi Jacobs, Waylon Murray and an on-fire Andries Strauss should provide options aplenty in midfield.

The first-choice back three is an ageing unit, with only JP Pietersen the right side of 25, but Stefan Terblanche and Odwa Ndungane still have plenty of rugby left in them and will show the benefit of wise heads. It will be key to use the pace and enthusiasm of Lwazi Mvovo and Luzuko Vulindlu to good effect within the framework established by the three veterans, though. Louis Ludick is another superb player from the Lions who should, contractual issues permitting, add a huge amount of variety to the back three, while the secret weapon may just turn out to be the 19 year-old Patrick Lambie, who is just too good not to use in next year’s Super 14.

All-in-all, not looking too bad at all. Thanks for staying, Bis and Jannie. Now there’s some serious work to do.



117 Comments

  • Good squad for the Super 14……but let’s first defend the CC before we get ahaed off ourselves again… :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.09.09 10:10:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Would be great to get Ludik and Alberts. Ludik plays wing as well and Alberts adds the bulk that we are lacking as back up to the forwards

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.09.09 10:13:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : I maintain that the Sharks need to introduce a little more bulk into the pack without sacrificing pace. That’s where introducing BIG quick loosies like Alberts and Downey will pay dividends.

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.09.09 10:17:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • The loss of Frans Steyn, described by Plumtree as a “freak”,

    Shame..Frans Verstaan Freak Steyn…a bit of a mouthful for the French.. ;-)

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.09.09 10:20:19 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Where do you bring in Alberts then? Do you keep Keegan in the starting line up? Or do you rotate Kanko and Alberts? Botes just hasn’t impressed me much this year and you can see that Keegan is just outmuscled sometimes.

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.09.09 10:20:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Just help me out here . . . where are we gonna use Ludik? As wing? Prima Facie I don`t see the value.
    It would be great to get another big lock as backup for when Johan Muller is with the Bokke.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.09.09 10:20:52 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 4) : Dankie vir die afslag :evil: :shock:

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.09.09 10:21:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 6) : Oupa won’t be around forever and Ludik would be a great (allround) backline replacement.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.09.09 10:22:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 5) :

    I agree ’bout Botes..

    @Pokkel (Comment 7) :

    You’re MOST welcome! Anything to help a pal! ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.09.09 10:25:27 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Regarding the loose 3 I`d start : Botes, Deysel and Alberts then bring Kanko on in the second half for Deysel or Alberts, depending on who has the least gas left . . .

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.09.09 10:27:43 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 10) :

    **I** will get rid of Botes and start with Brussouw, Deysel and Kanko and then replace with Alberts.. :twisted:

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.09.09 10:29:49 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 10) : We could actually do with another specialist fetcher…I don’t see Botes(on current form) or Keegan(on current size)being the ideal solution.

    Let’s buy Brossouw :grin:

    Imagine
    6 Brussow
    7 Deysel
    8 Kanko/ Alberts

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.09.09 10:31:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 11) : Great minds think alike ;-)

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.09.09 10:32:38 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 12) :

    I hope its a case of ‘great minds” and not “fools never differ”.. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.09.09 10:34:32 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Brussow has recently signed an extension with the Cheetahs. He’s not going anywhere next year.

    As for Ludick, he’s a superb long-term replacement for Stefan. I don’t think we need to look at any acquisition in the context of “who does he replace in the starting lineup”… as we saw this year, you need to have depth. We would have gone a lot further in this year’s Super 14 had we been able to slot an Alberts in when Wolla got injured.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.09.09 10:45:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 10) : my master plan has Wolla at 6 and Alberts at 7…

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.09.09 10:47:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : Agree totally, we need the depth.

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.09.09 10:48:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    One can dream..

    On a different note – I see Frans Steyn has a “klousule” (sorry dont knw the Eng) in his contract that states should the Boks need his service that Racing Metro (?) should release him for National duty..

    Dunno if that will happen wit Pdivvies philosophy…but still clever move on FVFS’s side.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.09.09 10:50:36 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 6) : how about Gerhardt Mostert?

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.09.09 10:51:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 18) :

    or is that Standard terms?? :oops:

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.09.09 10:52:30 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 18) : clause :)

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.09.09 10:54:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    Thanks :oops: I almost said Clausule!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.09.09 10:58:36 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Hey Rob please ck out a story i heard that a province north of us who are trying to roar have offered Monty a deal You have the contact will you check please

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.09.09 11:21:38 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : I don’t know if Wolla is quick (or small) enough to be a 6. Brussow has changed my view on a fetcher and I think a fetcher should be on the short side. I bet Brossouw gets to ground level a lot quicker than Wolla. Brossouw is short, quick and strong and that ia what you need IMO

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.09.09 11:25:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Given your schedule for the S14, you are in for a tough ride.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.09.09 11:32:58 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) : Maybe we like it tough….we obviously don’t like the easy route.. :roll: ;-)

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.09.09 11:35:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) : Bulls did it with the five week tour – twice!

    @Fattmann (Comment 23) : thanks for the tip. Will check. Man,they seem to love our third-choice flyhalves! They have signed Simon Shaw for the Super 14, BTW.

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.09.09 11:36:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) :

    We like it tough..these easy draws dont seem to work for us…PRESSURE – THAT’s what we need! :grin:

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.09.09 11:41:30 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : heard about that good player if only they had someone for him to teach and make an impact with. I think they are under so much pressure to produce a result that they will do anything to have a good season even if its a once off
    from what i hear they are loosing 7 current players excluding Mossie Heard they are also after Chiliboy with Botha on his way back to the Bulls

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.09.09 11:41:44 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 26) : @robdylan (Comment 27) : @GI Ice (Comment 28) :

    If you like it tough don’t use vaseline then!!! :)

    Seriously, your main problem in my view sits at 9 and 10. You sort that combination out you will do well.

    You also need some grunt in the tight 5 preferably at lock and a clever 12.

    Apart from lock, which I do not know what you can do, I would like to see Kockett regain some form, you guys holding onto Hernandez and playing Ruan at 12…

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.09.09 11:50:41 by Morné Reply
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  • Oh and buy Potgieter from the Bulls to compliment Deysel and Kanko, rumour is Bulls are looking for another fetcher… (for some reason)

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.09.09 11:51:38 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 30) :

    Or play Ruan at 9, buy Grant from WP and play him at 12.

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.09.09 11:52:06 by Morné Reply
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  • ag nee, we’re back here again? “we have depth, we have quality, we have class etc etc” then the action starts in february and no sharks in the semis…”it was injuries, it was the refs, it was was was was was….”

    Plumtree’s tactics were exposed this year! The sharks couldn’t score bonus points on the regular! His defence, defence & counter-attack strategy was exposed the reds, quade cooper, genia & digby ioane ran through four tries on you…but you know what? Let me not stop you from talking yourselves up… :D

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.09.09 11:57:20 by quota Reply

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  • @Fattmann (Comment 29) : Chilli needs gametime. In fact, the only benefit of going to the Lions is that even a third choice player at another province stands a good chance of being a first-choice there. Just look at Dusty Noble! And I guess that’s why Tondie has signed for them too.

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.09.09 11:58:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 33) : how many points did the Valke concede this weekend? Was it more or less than 100?

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.09.09 11:59:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 31) : so there might be truth to the rumours about Kuun moving back?

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.09.09 12:01:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 31) : Potgieter would be a great buy…if Brussouw is not available

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.09.09 12:01:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 30) : @Morné (Comment 31) : @Morné (Comment 32) :

    Talking lekker to yourself.. ;-)

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.09.09 12:03:16 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 33) : See post 1…let’s finish the CC first

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.09.09 12:04:14 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 33) : I think that Plum has learned during the CC and the Sharks backline definately seems more potent this year…..mainly because Kockett isn’t playing and we don’t have Frans Steyn at 10

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.09.09 12:06:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    Yup

    @Pokkel (Comment 37) :

    I’d take Potgieter over Brussow

    @GI Ice (Comment 38) :

    As long as I dont argue with myself!

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.09.09 12:06:21 by Morné Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 38) :

    And on that note – what , iyo, would be the Master plan for the Stormers, or is space a bit restricted?? :twisted:

    @quota (Comment 33) :

    At least we HAVE something to talk about!! :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.09.09 12:06:49 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 42) :

    Simple, they should just make a bid to buy the trophy because there is obviously a lot of money with little brains doing the rounds in the Cape

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.09.09 12:11:51 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 43) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.09.09 12:12:56 by GI Ice Reply
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  • If it was up to Joel Stransky, Peter Grant would be selected for the EOYT.

    He reckons Grant has not had enough chances at Bok level.

    :|

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.09.09 12:47:28 by wpw Reply
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  • With the news that Bismarck and Jannie du Plessis are set to extend their stay at the Sharks (even though it’s only because they’ve seemingly exhausted all other avenues), the Sharks look like having the sort of squad that could really challenge for Super 14 honours next year.

    We HAD the squad to win the S14 THIS year but for Plum’s ridiculous kicking game. :roll:

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.09.09 12:50:14 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 46) :

    Hey dude! Did you enjoy the cricket?? :mrgreen:

    Told you so!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.09.09 12:57:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 46) : thank you! An honest supporter!

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.09.09 12:57:38 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 48) : you, klempie and Wes should all go sit in a little corner together and be negative about stuff. Leave the rest of us to enjoy the positive side of life.

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.09.09 13:19:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) :

    AMEN!!! :grin: ;-)

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.09.09 13:26:17 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 47) : Leave poor old Klempie alone, can’t you see he is suffering :evil:

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.09.09 13:32:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 46) : and Fransie at flyhalf

  • Comment 52, posted at 30.09.09 13:33:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) : that’ll teach him to watch such a stupid sport :)

  • Comment 53, posted at 30.09.09 13:41:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 53) : I like cricket too….it’s a hell of a lot better that roundball

  • Comment 54, posted at 30.09.09 13:54:12 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : what’s wrong with ovalball? :)

  • Comment 55, posted at 30.09.09 13:57:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Cricket’s lekker. Sitting on a grassbank in the sun getting steadily dronk having a braai even is a great day out.

    Watching cricket sitting on stadium seats with hardly any space for your legs let alone your coolbox and skottel is not my idea of fun though.

  • Comment 56, posted at 30.09.09 13:58:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • Déjà vu; also called paramnesia, from Greek ???? “para,” “near, against, contrary to” + ????? “mn?m?,” “memory”) or promnesia, is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the near past)

    Wikipedia

  • Comment 57, posted at 30.09.09 14:16:49 by blackshark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 56) : the latter sums up my experience at Centurion last week. Add a four year old and an 8 month old to the mix and you’ll understand why I left after an hour.

  • Comment 58, posted at 30.09.09 14:19:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 46) : the question is : do they have a mindset to win S14.

  • Comment 59, posted at 30.09.09 14:19:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : poor little ones – why would you drag them there in the first place :roll: ;-)

  • Comment 60, posted at 30.09.09 14:21:55 by rekinek Reply
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  • Stefan Terblanche and Odwa Ndungane still have plenty of ruby left in them

    Ruby is not the word I would’ve chosen – but I’m still expecting a lot from these two guys. Solid and predictable at times – but both have that ability to spring a surprise or two when you least expect it.

  • Comment 61, posted at 30.09.09 14:23:40 by blackshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 46) : we struggled when injuries hit, so rob has a point that the sharks will be stronger next year,

    @rekinek (Comment 59) : time will tell if we have the mindset, and the gameplan

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  • @McLovin (Comment 56) :

    I refuse to sit on those hard plastic seats – those are not meant for the number of hours you have to spend watching the game…

  • Comment 63, posted at 30.09.09 14:25:56 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : did ur 4 year old not like anyone else? or did she just not like me? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 30.09.09 14:27:13 by war1 Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 57) : yes yes, I know… still, what’s the point in writing them off before they’ve even kicked a ball?

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  • @blackshark (Comment 63) : wen i watched i sat on the grass and a bit on the stands, it was a great experience, i have not watched a live game where the proteas lost, maybe i should find a way of getting to watch the world cup semis and final . . . if we get that far :mrgreen:

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  • @rekinek (Comment 60) : because my wife though it might be a good idea.

    @war1 (Comment 64) : what makes you say she didn’t like you? She’s jsut a little shy!

  • Comment 67, posted at 30.09.09 14:29:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 62) : unless injuries hit again.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) :

    SHEIT!! :shock: Just ATTEMPTING that was very very brave!!

  • Comment 69, posted at 30.09.09 14:30:34 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : i think we are trying to not get our hopes up, i spent that whole off week before last year’s currie cup final trying to convince myself not to get my hopes up

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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : she was just bein a 4 year old i guess, i did not take it too seriously, nice kid by the way, very well behaved and clearly intelligent

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  • @blackshark (Comment 61) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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  • @war1 (Comment 71) :

    My two year 3 month old counts to 20..I think thats pretty marvelous!

    She obviously was not there long enough – when they get to trust and know you, then you wish they were shy again! :lol:

  • Comment 73, posted at 30.09.09 14:35:59 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : women :mrgreen:

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 73) : true that i once had to take my cousin’s son out for a meal, he was four at the time, sho!!

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 73) :

    She must have gotten my brains….coz I clearly don’t have mine anymore!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 30.09.09 14:40:03 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : Sounds woes. Did it once at the Oval and vowed never again. Deckchair on the grass or I’m not going.

    Unless I’m in a ‘losie’ of course :mrgreen:

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  • @rekinek (Comment 68) : with the new signings we are better equipped to deal with injuries, take flyhalf for example, we have some really good options there

  • Comment 78, posted at 30.09.09 14:41:48 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 62) : yes, the sharks were the only team hit by injuries…ha ha ha when the crusaders had corry flynn out (broken wrist) casey laulala, richie mccaw, kade poki, leon mcdonald (periodicallly)…the sharks choked period!

  • Comment 79, posted at 30.09.09 14:43:04 by quota Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 63) : Exactly, plus they’re designed for kids imo. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 30.09.09 14:43:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 76) : they say insanity is hereditary, you get it from your kids :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 30.09.09 14:43:34 by war1 Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 79) : the sharks just did not deal with their injuries well, remember that the crusaders also struggled for long periods of the competition, it was their bonus points that pulled them through, i think the problem was with the gameplan where the players were exhausted by the end of the competition and the opposition had figured out how to play to their gameplan, and finally the cheetahs game killed the player’s confidence

  • Comment 82, posted at 30.09.09 14:48:43 by war1 Reply
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  • Hoe legendes begin:

    In Engeland – Once upon a time…
    In Amerika – Long, long ago…
    In SuidAfrika- Onthou jy daai aand toe ons so getrek was..

  • Comment 83, posted at 30.09.09 14:50:13 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 79) : imho a choke is wen u lose a semi or a final when you are clearly the best team or at least on par with your opposition, so therefore the sharks did not get themselves into a situation where they could choke, neither did the proteas for that matter either

  • Comment 84, posted at 30.09.09 14:50:44 by war1 Reply
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  • Mans:

    Gee ‘n man ‘n vis, en hy het iets om te eet vir die dag. Leer ‘n man om vis te vang, en hy sit heeldag in ‘n boot en suip.

  • Comment 85, posted at 30.09.09 14:51:08 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 78) : we had it this year as well – Steyn was not brilliant there but OK. The problem (me thinks ) was that Plum just payed with the same personnel week in and week out – until they just did not manage anymore.

  • Comment 86, posted at 30.09.09 14:51:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • so when bismarck re-negotiates his contract does he include “jannie my boet must also get a contract” as one of the clauses, how does this work robdylan.?

  • Comment 87, posted at 30.09.09 14:51:31 by quota Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 71) : I love her to bits… miss her so much

  • Comment 88, posted at 30.09.09 14:51:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 86) : and gameplan, i think

  • Comment 89, posted at 30.09.09 14:54:45 by war1 Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 87) :

    Yes…and he MUST be the firts choice hooker and …and…and… :twisted:

  • Comment 90, posted at 30.09.09 14:57:34 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 87) : it’s a free market. As long as there’s a willing buyer and a willing seller, who cares what’s in the contract?

  • Comment 91, posted at 30.09.09 14:59:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 89) : what was this gameplan btw – defend defend until they’ll get tired of attacking. or just kick this up and unders all the time.

  • Comment 92, posted at 30.09.09 14:59:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 82) : yeah right, you should’ve read the blogs when the shark were leading the comp…talk of shark tank semis & all sort of stuff, then their gameplan got figure out & plum either doesn’t have the brains to switch it up or the players he has are only “one-trick-ponies” and THEY couldn’t switch it up…

  • Comment 93, posted at 30.09.09 15:00:26 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 90) : and fresh flowers in the locker :mrgreen:

  • Comment 94, posted at 30.09.09 15:01:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 91) :

    And THAT is the reason they are still together at the Sharks..there is a willing seller but not a willing buyer who wants to fall for the take one get 2 deal… :twisted: :roll:

  • Comment 95, posted at 30.09.09 15:02:02 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 90) : that he can have the bottom bunk and jannie the top one

  • Comment 96, posted at 30.09.09 15:03:20 by war1 Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 94) :

    Don’t forget the shirts, so they dont have to wear eaxh others stuff!! :lol:

  • Comment 97, posted at 30.09.09 15:03:36 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 90) : but then again, Jannie and Bismarck have very few places they can go, since they both want to stay in the Bok picture and don’t want to be too far from their farm… rumour has it that they didn’t sign for WP for the latter reason.

    So you might just find that Strooli is the one adding the clauses this time…

  • Comment 98, posted at 30.09.09 15:03:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 97) :

    Matching shirts..

    @war1 (Comment 96) :
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 99, posted at 30.09.09 15:04:16 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 93) : look, the sharks messed up badly, but being a true supporter will stick by them, i have no need to defend the gameplan, there should have been a home final from the position they were in, i was very disappointed but we move on . . .

  • Comment 100, posted at 30.09.09 15:06:29 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 98) : jeeez demanding bunch.
    I reckon jannie is a CC charm – bissie can go to WP – will be back soon:-)

  • Comment 101, posted at 30.09.09 15:07:34 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 98) :

    They still have to agree to it… ;-)

  • Comment 102, posted at 30.09.09 15:07:53 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 92) : lmao…. :D

  • Comment 103, posted at 30.09.09 15:08:32 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 99) : :lol: socks too

  • Comment 104, posted at 30.09.09 15:08:54 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 101) :

    Biz it to young for WP in the first place! :lol:

  • Comment 105, posted at 30.09.09 15:09:08 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 105) : true – wp is probably trying to steal albert. or maybe they are busy convincing ackermann to come out of retirement.

  • Comment 106, posted at 30.09.09 15:12:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • damn – just heard Mike Rhodes will be on the bench this week. That’s bad news… because I take it Keegan will be starting at 7.

    We need to take these Lions seriously.

  • Comment 107, posted at 30.09.09 15:15:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 107) : isn’t keegs better?

  • Comment 108, posted at 30.09.09 15:18:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 106) : they were just waiting for Deon Carstens to turn 30…

  • Comment 109, posted at 30.09.09 15:19:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 108) : not in tandem with Botes and Kanko… you need a bigger player in the mix

  • Comment 110, posted at 30.09.09 15:20:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 110) : I mean, Keegan is 1.85 and just over 90kg… Rhodes is 1.97 and 115kg…

  • Comment 111, posted at 30.09.09 15:23:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 111) : are u serious – i think pienaar’s size – maybe they can rotate during the game :mrgreen: (that could be funny)

  • Comment 112, posted at 30.09.09 15:29:51 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 112) : I love Keegan’s attitude and determination – as well as his freakish skills, but the boy ain’t big enough.

  • Comment 113, posted at 30.09.09 15:47:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 112) : his “official” height according to SARugby and the Sharks website is 1.88, but he’s told me himself that he’s not that tall

  • Comment 114, posted at 30.09.09 15:49:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : Off course oval ball is my first choice :mrgreen:

  • Comment 115, posted at 30.09.09 15:54:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 114) :

    whats 3 cm???

  • Comment 116, posted at 30.09.09 15:55:23 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 116) :

    If they wanna give him an official height, make it a good lie and make it at least 13cm! :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 117, posted at 30.09.09 15:56:16 by GI Ice Reply
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