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Ruan’s goalkicking must improve


Written by Warren Smith (war1)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 1 Oct 2009 at 10:28

Johannesburg – Ruan Pienaar will only be picked at flyhalf for the Springboks again if he can get his goalkicking standard up to that of Morné Steyn. writes JJ Harmse for Sport24

Until that happens, coach Peter de Villiers says he will have to act in the best interests of the team and country and pick Steyn, even if he rates Pienaar highly as a playmaker.

“I still see Ruan as a flyhalf. I think he is a good decision-maker and schemer, and that is how I like my flyhalves,” said De Villiers.

“But Morné kicks like a machine and everybody is surprised when he misses. You can’t ignore that.

“There are reasons for Ruan not reaching his potential this year. These include injuries and the lack of goalkicking opportunities at his union, but as coach I understand now that talent cannot always be the only measure.

“It’s also about your contribution in the team context and in that sense I cannot do without Morné. He is a brilliant goalkicker,” said De Villiers.

De Villiers admitted that he would miss Frans Steyn and Jean de Villiers when he picks his squad of 37 players on 31 October for games against Leicester and Saracens, and Tests against France, Italy and Ireland.

“But they know where they stand. You have to be in the country to make the Bok side. We will get someone to fill in for them,” he said.

“Nobody thought Percy Montgomery and Os du Randt could be replaced. This is an ideal opportunity for two new players to grab their opportunities and take those places.”

De Villiers also provided an insight into his plans for the tour.

“We have to look further than maintaining our number one status because 2011 is just around the corner. That is why a few new faces will make the squad. We have to expose new players to the Bok culture,” he said.

De Villiers refers to Heinrich Brüssow, who toured at the end of last year and played only five minutes in the last Test. He performed well from the outset when he was needed this year.

“We want to show a few players what it means to be a Springbok, but nobody will get a cheap blazer from me. They have to deserve it,” said De Villiers.

His starting line-up for the Test against France on 13 November will not fly out to London with the rest of the touring squad on 2 November.

This group will only join the touring squad on 6 November.

“Those 15  guys will prepare in South Africa for the test against France, but everyone in the 22 for the game against the Leicester Tigers will have a chance of making the substitutes bench for the Test in Toulouse,” said De Villiers.



36 Comments

  • DeJaVu!! :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.10.09 10:36:53 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 1) : have u perhaps seen this article before?

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.10.09 10:39:36 by war1 Reply
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  • “But they know where they stand. You have to be in the country to make the Bok side. We will get someone to fill in for them,” he said.

    Okay..but will they be considered for the WC when they might still be the best?? Or will he be stubborn and choose someone more sub standard??

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.10.09 10:41:35 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 2) :

    It rings a bell somehow, but Icant seem to lay my finger on it.. ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.10.09 10:46:12 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 3) : Jeans contract is 1yr, he will be back.Fransie, eish, unlucky for him.

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.10.09 10:52:48 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 5) :

    Unlucky….and maybe a bit foolish..from coaches side..maybe, maybe not..

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.10.09 10:56:27 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 3) : is heinrich brussow “sub-standard” compared to schalk burger? Would you have predicted that @ this point heinrich would be the incumbent & schalk riding the wood?

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.10.09 10:59:07 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 7) :

    Read my comment in the context of “will he choose someone who is sub standard at tha very time of the WC”… Of course someone else might come in and blow us away – but if not and if they are sub standard when they go to the WC..will he then still choose them?

    Also see my comment…that I said it may be foolosh of Peter, but it might not be (if someone better comes on the scene)..

    Jis – you are always fighting fit, arent you?? :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.10.09 11:04:29 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 7) :

    BTW – I have never thought Schalk to be brilliant..so in that sense I would never have thought Brussouw to be sub standard to Schalk.. :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.10.09 11:05:55 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 5) :

    Well, if he wants another WC medal he’ll have to return to RSA…

    He will be easier to replace in open play – but it’s gonna be a while before we discover another lunatic who is prepared to kick from his own half…and actually score…

    So now we go back to what Rob has been preaching- why can’t we have the “real flyhalf” at flyhalf – and dump the kicking machine at fullback?

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.10.09 11:11:18 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 10) :

    The “Freak” as Plum calls him.. :lol:

    You heard what Uncle Pete said…if he can Kick like the kicking machine he can get the 10 jersy back..

    Guess what Ruan is doing for the next 7 weeks every day.. ;-)

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.10.09 11:14:27 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 11) :

    The thing is Ruan is not a bad kicker at all…he’s been kicking well for years…just that he’s been under pressure and his confidence is a bit low.

    I was reading a match report from last year’s CC game- Sharks vs Bulls in Durban. Ruan was on point and it was The Machine that was struggling.He outplayed Morne in every department. He’ll be back

    Peter De Villiers will have to make up his mind here…

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.10.09 11:27:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 12) :

    That game that cost him his spot..was he not injured an still on the field and that was when he started missing the posts..?

    Anyway – I stil believe he’s a better gameplayer than Morne (As Morras would say – I think he uses he’s brain more)..

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.10.09 11:38:09 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 10) : If thats the only requirement then Riaan Viljoen of Griquas is going to be the next WC hero.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.10.09 11:50:10 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 8) : come world cup time jdv & fs might be well of form that we don’t want them near a bok jersey?

    But you know what let’s not entertain that thought let’s rather interrogate the possibility that pdv will be “stubborn” and choose someone below par!

    He said these guys know where they stand, they have to be playing @ HOME to be picked for the boks…that may well mean frans will have to ask to be released from his rumoured 3 year contract! That is what i interprete as “knowing where you stand” gary botha just broke his harlequins deal to come back home and i don’t think he was just missing melktert…the aim is to make the grade for Rwc ’11

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.10.09 12:00:48 by quota Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 12) : morne has more bmt that ruan!

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.10.09 12:06:08 by quota Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 14) : he misses about 4 drops every game. Sounds like a natural replacement for Steyn :)

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.10.09 12:06:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Gary Botha has signed a contract with the Bulls which will take him through to October 2011.

    Botha penned the deal on Thursday, ending speculation over his future. There had been a number of unions who expressed interest in the hooker’s services, including the Lions, but he ultimately opted to return to the union he debuted for in 2001.

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.10.09 12:19:05 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 18) : dude… thinking of a nice leisurely 10k run at lunchtime as a recovery run :) Am I mad?

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.10.09 12:36:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : 10k recovery :shock:

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.10.09 12:56:02 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 16) :

    The tables have turned…

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.10.09 13:13:51 by blackshark Reply

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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 20) : so it does sound mad :)

    Ok, I’m downgrading it to 7… better?

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.10.09 13:14:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 15) :

    Do not try and turn this into a PDiv attacking convo and make me out to be oneof those who believ he does not deserve his spot – because then you are SERIOUSLY stepping on my toes and THAT is one thing I cannot take..I know where you going with this, so you might as well drop it..

    It was a scenario, where I simply wanted to know if someone sub standard will be chosen in the place of someone that might be on form , simply because they are overseas…it was a matter of wanting to know what might happen in such an instance…nothing more, nothing fricken less..

    I do know what he PDiv said an quite frankly we interpret it the same way – whoopy F.. :shock: With above question I wasnot talking 3 nations . teste etc – but something really really big as the WC which we would liek to defend the title of…

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.10.09 13:24:46 by GI Ice Reply
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  • PDivvy must really rate Ruan as a flyhalf especially after he has made it clear that he is concerntrating on being a scrummie. I wonder if there will be an outcry if Ruan is selected as a flyhalf while playing at scrumhalf.

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.10.09 13:32:04 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) :

    You should’ve said that while Steyn was killing those monsters in New Zealand…oh wait…you were busy jumping up and down… :evil:

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.10.09 13:33:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 23) : why would peter de villiers even do what you’re suggesting? He is a coach who has won junior level world cups, now why would he select someone sub-par? Oh he is stubborn…

    whatever you think my intentions are i’m sure you’ve made up your mind anyway…:D

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.10.09 13:56:06 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 23) : why would peter de villiers even do what you’re suggesting? He is a coach who has won junior level world cups, now why would he select someone sub-par? Oh he is stubborn…

    whatever you think my intentions are i’m sure you’ve made up your mind anyway…:D

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.10.09 13:56:06 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 23) : why would peter de villiers even do what you’re suggesting? He is a coach who has won junior level world cups, now why would he select someone sub-par? Oh he is stubborn…

    whatever you think my intentions are i’m sure you’ve made up your mind anyway…:D

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.10.09 13:56:13 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 23) : why would peter de villiers even do what you’re suggesting? He is a coach who has won junior level world cups, now why would he select someone sub-par? Oh he is stubborn…

    whatever you think my intentions are i’m sure you’ve made up your mind anyway…:D

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.10.09 13:56:31 by quota Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 23) : why would peter de villiers even do what you’re suggesting? He is a coach who has won junior level world cups, now why would he select someone sub-par? Oh he is stubborn…

    whatever you think my intentions are i’m sure you’ve made up your mind anyway…:D

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.10.09 13:56:52 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 26) : @quota (Comment 27) : @quota (Comment 28) : @quota (Comment 29) : @quota (Comment 30) :

    I think I get the message… :twisted:

    So…you say then he would choose someone thats overseas beased then if ther is not a As worthy person locally?

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.10.09 14:12:32 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 30) :

    And I did not say he IS stubborn I asked if he would be..seeing that he is adamant in keeping to his rules normally – in such a case would he perhaps relax the rules a bit..

    Why is my simple question being made such an issue??

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.10.09 14:18:05 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 27) : @quota (Comment 28) : @quota (Comment 29) : @quota (Comment 30) :

    I think your finger is on the repeat button… :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.10.09 14:25:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 33) : i didn’t know this site had a repeat button, all i saw was my post not going through so i pressed it a couple of times until i eventually refreshed the page…

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.10.09 14:28:57 by quota Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 33) :

    I am starting to think its a case of “having to tell a blonde 5 times before she might get the message”… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.10.09 14:30:00 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 34) : Our repeat button is a bit manual… :mrgreen:

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