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Stuff the permutations – fix the rugby


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 5 Oct 2009 at 09:06
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After Saturday’s frankly disastrous showing against the Lions, Sharks fans now inevitably turn to the required permutations in order for the team to still top the log after the end of next week. My thinking is that any such talk is pointless, because if the Sharks continue to play like they did against the Lions, they will not win a semifinal against any of the other contenders – much less will they beat Griquas on Saturday.

There is only one positive to come out of Saturday’s match, from a Sharks perspective. They won a game that they probably didn’t deserve to. One could argue that, in the context of numerous Super 14 losses to weaker opposition, this, at least, represents some sort of progress. The Sharks quite clearly have a problem when it comes to playing so-called weaker opposition and the problem is in their heads. How long will it take before John Plumtree acknowledges this weakness and brings in a proper mental coach to address the failing? Can you imagine how much better the Sharks’ Super 14 would have turned out had they not lost to the Reds and the Cheetahs? Or how much better their Currie Cup play-off positioning would look had they beaten the Leopards by 70 points, rather than 14?

If there’s on thing that Plummo loves to do, it’s flog a dead horse. We’ve all known for two years now that playing Keegan Daniel and Jacques Botes in tandem does not work, particularly if you have a third “looser” loose forward in the trio, a la Ryan Kankowski. We hear the same tired old excuses about Keegan’s superior pace and skill making up for his lack of physical presence but the sad reality is that without Jean Deysel and Johann Muller in the engine room, the Sharks get stuffed at the breakdowns. I have been banging on about the lack of depth at 7 for so long now that I’m starting to bore myself. Mike Rhodes has shown in the last two weeks that even if he isn’t the answer, he’s certainly a step in the right direction. Why was he not picked to start against the Lions?

Perhaps Deysel will be all better this weekend, though, allowing Plumtree to paper over the enormous crack until the next time the former picks up an injury. Then it will be panic stations again.

The other selection that continues to baffle me is that of Andries Strauss. There seems to have been some sort of bizarre media conspiracy this Currie Cup when it comes to this decidedly average centre – the number of times he has been selected in Rugby365′s Team of the Week, despite doing absolutely sod-all on the field, beggars belief. He won man of the match last week for scoring two tries against the Leopards and admittedly looked halfway reasonable on the day, although he too disappeared from sight, along with the rest of the team, in a woeful second half. Playing a good half of rugby against the Leopards does not suddenly turn him into the sort of player you select ahead of Adrian Jacobs, though.

They say Jacobs is a defensive liability, yet it was Strauss who showed Doppies la Grange the turnstile treatment allowing the latter to burst straight through to set up a try to Chris Jonck from which the Sharks never recovered. It was Strauss too who murdered several good opportunities for the Sharks, none more so than when he knocked on with an open tryline begging. Why, oh why, when Adrian Jacobs eventually did come on, was he brought on for the impressive Waylon Murray, rather than the bumbling Strauss?

Mark my words, fans – the Sharks are going to have to find a way to start playing effective rugby again very quickly if they are to avoid a defeat in Kimberley this weekend. Any talk of bonus points, huge winning margins and holding thumbs that the Lions deny Western Province a bonus point is premature. Perhaps a stuffing at the hands of Griquas might be just what we need, to set the tone for the inevitable thrashing that another team in blue will hand out to us the week thereafter.



72 Comments

  • The Sharks need to start concentrating on the basics.

    It is all good and well that you chase a 5 point bonus point try game but you ALWAYS, even in schoolboy rugby, take the points on offer.

    I read a quite brilliant synopsis on Bok rugby recently where one guy mentioned the Boks simply use the scoreboard to pressure their opponents.

    If Plumtree and the Sharks do not realise very quickly that rugby is all about momentum then you are in for a tough time.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.10.09 09:16:31 by Morné Reply
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  • Rob,

    How accurate was my predictions for this last week’s games? ;)

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.10.09 09:19:21 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) : you are getting better Morras :)

    What do you think will happen THIS weekend?

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.10.09 09:25:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) :

    Sharks to take 5, WP only 4.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.10.09 09:27:31 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 4) : if teh Sharks go to Kimberley with Deysel and Swannie in tow, we’ll take 5. If we carry on with this bunch, we won’t win at all.

    I agree that WP probably won’t get the bonus point.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.10.09 09:32:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • The score was a bit disturbing – but I guess it’s easier for me to get over it and focus on the next match because…I didn’t see the game.

    Province has beaten us twice this season so surrendering the top spot to them has been a bitter pill to swallow. Well, we still have another opportunity to fix this by going all out in Kimberley…not an easy trip – but 5 points is the target.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.10.09 09:32:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 6) : but top spot is only relevant if we win our semi… playing like we did this weekend, we won’t beat the Cheetahs either

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.10.09 09:41:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    i am glad to see someone feels like I do..

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.10.09 09:54:06 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 8) : I know what the problem really was. I watched with my dad. The Sharks hate him and always play like shit when he watches :evil:

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.10.09 10:05:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thanks for the revelation…now I suppose I need to tell the truth too…I did not wear my Sharks Jersey.. :oops:

    I am truly sorry and hope all Sharks Fans can forgive me… :sad: :lol:

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.10.09 10:12:40 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 10) : double whammy… lucky we won at all

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.10.09 10:19:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wonder what the odds on Griquas would be this weekend. Might be worth a shot . . .

    Lets face it, disaster is staring us in the face.
    It`s now quite probable we`ll have to go to Loftus for the semi`s and the way we`re playing lately we`re dead in the water.

    Lets hope Plum gets a Lucidum Intervallum this week and ” loan” Strauss to Border for the rest of the season, or his life.

    There is every indication that our season will end this weekend. Prepare yourself.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.10.09 10:31:04 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 12) : hey Pierre no matter what we have a home semi Not concerned about Bulls here cos i think we have their number concerned about a sharks/cheetahs final

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.10.09 10:39:33 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 12) :

    How you get that?

    Is the semi’s not played at Nr 1 and 2 homeground? Even if we lose we still have a home semi – or am I now really mistaken??

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.10.09 10:41:53 by GI Ice Reply
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  • hey i should have made all my comments here as they suit this article more.

    anyway i’ll bring the topic over to this thread. you don’t have to be a big player to clear out a tackler. there are only two things that you get on a tackler that slow ball down and they are called arms. now even a pip squeak like rory :mrgreen: can clean these out. phil waugh is good at this he gets in low and pushes the takler upwards. this makes sure you stay on your feet and the tackler can’t reach the ball. simple algebra.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.10.09 10:45:54 by try time Reply

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  • Sharks should win in Kimberly with 5 points in the bag. The thing is will the Sharks allow the Griqua’s to gain the 2 points that they need to get the Freestate out of the semi’s?
    The big game will be the Lions / WP one. As ordinary as the Sharks were the Lions were good value. It can be that the Lions win this game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.10.09 10:46:56 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 14) : you are right windgat, you are right.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.10.09 10:47:13 by try time Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 14) : you are correct. By beating the Lions, we ahve ensured that we can finish no lower than 2nd.

    We already have a home semi in the bag.

    But the Bulls are now sure to finish third, meaning that whoever ends second will have them in the semi.

    Ending top of the log is more about avoiding the Bulls in the semi than it is about a home final.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.10.09 10:47:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 15) : physics?

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.10.09 10:48:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Loosehead (Comment 16) : so, if the Sharks get the four tries in the bag, they can essentially manipulate the situation to allow Griquas two bonus points.

    In fact, I smell a match fix here. Plum and Dawie shake hands before the game that they’ll each let in four tries before the game even really starts…

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.10.09 10:49:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : Sure, but you should be prepared to play against and beat any team in the semi. We all know that the Sharks would rather play the softer WP option than the harder Cheetahs / Bulls / Mighty Elephants option. ;-)

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.10.09 10:51:34 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : EXACTLY! That is what we Cheetahs are afraid of. :grin:

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.10.09 10:53:17 by Loosehead Reply

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  • I thought about this as well, but that was before I saw us against the Lions. Now I don`t think it`ll be a fix at all. Why would we want to make it easier for wp?

    Fact is we need John Smit, Johan Muller and Deysel on the field from now until the end.
    We don`t need Strauss in KZN, nevermind the team.

    Even if we do all this it`s still gonna be close . . .

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.10.09 10:54:10 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : exactly. :lol:

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.10.09 10:57:37 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : i have been thinking that all morning. i just didn’t want to mention such a dispicable thing. but it would be nice.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.10.09 11:01:45 by try time Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 23) :

    Mullers out for the rest of the season…so there goes THAT tehory.. ;-)

    @try time (Comment 25) :

    :twisted:

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.10.09 11:03:41 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 12) : “There is every indication that our season will end this weekend. Prepare yourself.”

    We have a home semi guaranteed.

    Bl##dy hell, there are a pessimistic bunch of Sharks supporters out there.

    Did no-one actually notice there was another side in it, and they played bl##dy well? Have we become so arrogant as to not even give credit when credit is due? We didn’t get beaten by a better team, we won against a better team effort on the day.

    Champion sides are the ones who find ways to win. The Sharks did that. I think a dose of reality is needed here.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.10.09 11:04:24 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 27) : i agree with you 100% now if we get to bring out our a game we will be awesome

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.10.09 11:09:09 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 27) : yes but with calibre of players the sharks have at their disposal, should we accept such mediocrity. the opposition can only play as well as you let them. if you let them slow down the ball at breakdowns and let them stay in the game you deserve every bit of criticism leveled at you. with the sharks dominating the lineouts and not doing to badly in the scrums, we still struggled. this is unacceptable. i have highlighted the concerning factors in the team this morning. it shouldn’t be too hard to implement and sort out .

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.10.09 11:15:37 by try time Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 27) :

    Which is fair… I think the Lions defence was awsome! We just did not have any medicine to cure that, and yes we did win in the end – so a very silent congrats, but it was NOT a pretty win and I DONT think we would have won if we played even a better team on the day..

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.10.09 11:17:06 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 27) : baldrick, champion sides get bonus points when they are on offer. they don’t rely on lucky breaks. sharks need to learn to rip out jugulars and not close up shop after hitting the lead.

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.10.09 11:17:11 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : That would be good, if we knew what had happened in the WP game. But we can’t afford to manipulate things when it might be to our disadvantage.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.10.09 11:24:25 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 26) : Hey Ice not confirmed that Joe is out for the season will try and find out for sure It si waht he needs but might be a patch job and miss EOYT and first 4 S14 games

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.10.09 11:32:57 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 33) :

    Ohh! Okay.. ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.10.09 11:40:07 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 33) : I heard he was thinking about overseas…

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.10.09 11:56:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : will check that out as well and come back to you

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.10.09 11:59:41 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : that will sort out the captaincy debacle. cos if smit lost the captaincy for going overseas, then it would be fair if joe does to.

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.10.09 12:00:34 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) :

    Thought there’s a rat in the kitchen…

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.10.09 12:07:28 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Ah man, having to post comments to be able to stay alive in the Just rugby comp is ROUGH! :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.10.09 12:20:14 by molly Reply
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  • Guess I”ll have to mention something about WP being top of the log :twisted:
    WP JOU LEKKA DING!!!!

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.10.09 12:21:00 by molly Reply
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  • Seriously now, Sharks will be fine, they’ll thump the Kwa’s and WP probably won’t “thump” the Lions. The Sharks always need a close game (or a loss to a minnow) to remind them to perform properly.

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.10.09 12:23:16 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 39) : he he… phase 1 is complete :)

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.10.09 12:31:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : its actually cool, I like hanging around here. Just means my work takes a beating.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.10.09 12:35:04 by molly Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 29) : True in some respects, but the lions forwards were a lot bigger than ours, Alberts was huge in many respects for the oppo. Not often someone in the lsoing team gets MOTM. He outplayed Kanko, our Loose trio was pretty ineffective.

    But we are missing Deysel, Swanepoel, Muller, Smit – all big, physical players. I agree that the calibre of player we have should have done better, but let’s temper that with some reality over who we are missing.

    JP last played ages ago, Strauss is very average, but a stop gap measure.

    I think we are unfairly slagging off the Sharks instead of crediting the Lions. That was the best game of the last 3 years from them.

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.10.09 12:46:35 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 43) : you can just chill out and enjoy your loerie for a bit.

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.10.09 12:48:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 44) : just to add fuel to your fire, we must also remember that hey came off the high of stuffing Boland by 80+ points….

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.10.09 12:50:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : They had to win to stay in semi-final contention. It was do or die, pressure stuff from them.

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.10.09 12:58:15 by Baldrick Reply

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  • Anyone include the Jake factor?

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.10.09 12:58:19 by molly Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 44) :

    Did I hear correctly during the commentary that Alberts is coming to Dbn next season?

    If so, then Plumtree must have been happy to see the way he played.

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.10.09 13:03:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : where have you been?

    The commentators, though, said the he is being linked to a move to the Sharks. That is true. Nothing has been confirmed yet

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.10.09 13:08:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 48) : Keo…

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.10.09 13:11:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) :

    Where have I been?????????????

    DUDE there isn’t enough space on the site server for me to post a comment venting my frustration. :oops:

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.10.09 13:14:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 44) : i am not denying the lions were good. but we had them on the ropes in almost all departments of the game, yet we didn’t finish off again. you mentioned players that battled, but they aren’t the ones that let the team down. bismarks line out throwing was poor. this meant we couldn’t create much from lineouts. why is waylon subbed before strauss? that was plums decision. why was adi brought on when he has been poor the last two games? was waylon injured? mvovo has played well, if odwa or jp are such a problem why wasn’t he used? no the sharks deserve the criticism aimed at them. we see this far too often from them. they are a great team, but they make silly errors. we have won one more game than wp yet we are second on the log. this backs my argument.

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.10.09 13:15:06 by try time Reply

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  • here is another question. why do our forwards pass and catch better than our backline players? the best try of this years cc was created by some deft passing between our forwards. adi can’t even catch a bread basket pass. this is yet another thing to be concerned about.

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.10.09 13:36:05 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 54) : i answered my own question. it is because the forwards don’t run away from their support. if you look back at that try, all the forwards involved realised they were going to get tackled and slowed down to allow a sharks player to catch up so they could offload when they were tackled. they were also aware of where their support was. this should be backline basics. yet our forwards show the backs up. i know the sharks can win this years cc, but it will all mean nothing if we waste our opportunities in the s14 next year, AGAIN.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.10.09 13:44:37 by try time Reply

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  • Rob. You far to pesimestic about your team. The reality is no team can deliver champagne rugby in every game. In fact last week you penned a piece about how tough a fixture it was gonna be. Yet here you are castigating them for winning. If you go on to win the cc a two point win over the lions helped you get there. And to the muppet who suggested wp would be the easier option you lost twice in this campaign you muppet.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.10.09 15:12:08 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 56) : a bulls team with its boks back or wp. i think wp is the easier team to beat. especially since we have our boks back.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.10.09 15:21:11 by try time Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 56) : maybe you’re right. But the thing I’m most concerned about is being bullied off our own ball for the umpteenth time this season

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.10.09 15:25:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob, I agree that the problems started with the lighter pack, which cost you at the breakdowns. Doesn’t make sense to pick Botes and Daniel to start with Kanko.

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.10.09 19:52:30 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 59) : and yet we keep doing it!

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.10.09 21:03:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : Territory and possession in the high 60s is not being bullied of your own ball. Give credit where it is due, the Lions were excellent on the day, played with huge passion and spirit.

    It is funny but while watching the game, I was thinking about the reaction of many of the supporters, I knew it would be like this. I think I watched the match with a fairly objective eye, and what I saw is the Sharks dominating for much of the game, but not finishing. The backline seemed to be predictable and lateral. The Lions fought like men possessed at every breakdown, and the Sharks could not match that intensity, but I’m sorry to say that is where the comparison ends, the Sharks were the classier outfit. Even when they got ahead, I never felt the Lions had it in them to finish off the Sharks. Also, and I bring this up last because I don’t like the excuse, but in all reality the Sharks were quite unlucky on Saturday, a few breaks and the four try bonus would have been on.

    The problem is not that all of a sudden one of our tri-nations winning Boks, Odwa Ndungane, has lost all his pace. He never was a pace merchant, his game is all about his enterprising play all over the field, and that has not changed. He is still the hardest working wing in SA. The problem is not that Strauss is such a horrible centre, he isn’t, in fact he has been a huge asset to the Sharks since coming to the franchise. He has never let his team down, and his defense is usually superb, the missed tackle on Doppies was unusual, not the norm. I remember when you all were saying that Monty Dumond is terrible, some of you said some really terrible things about him, yet he too has not let his team down. His kicking was superb this year, and he was solid in getting his line away. He has become a very good CC 10. I don’t think he will progress much past that, but he does the job.

    I am quite amazed at how many of you so quickly turn against individual players on the Sharks after one frustrating game that we won. WS is right, we should not expect champagne rugby every game. We beat the Bulls twice this year, and I remember how we were all so high about the second win. Temper your emotions people, don’t let one game get you high or low (especially when the Sharks actually win).

    Now do any of you actually believe that the Sharks, with the same personnel, same decisions by Plum do not have a shot at repeating as CC champs? Of course they do, quite a good chance in fact.

    Oh….know what, if the Sharks lose in the semi, I won’t think the season was a complete loss, and I won’t be advocating for wholesale changes to the Sharks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.10.09 05:59:34 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 61) : good points. but most players that have been pointed out aren’t being singled out because of one game. odwa: as i mentioned odwa is a player you use for tough encounters where a win is essential or you need to close out the game at the end. he is not the player you have on the field if you are going for four tries and want to risk a little. during playoff time odwa is the man you start and finish with, because there are no bonus points in the play offs. adi: has not had a great season, starting from the super 14. he is no where near the adi of last year. he doesn’t seem to have the passion. he is currently a liability in the team as he offers nothing special on the field. andries: has never been a starter, but his commitment and hard work do deserve some acknowledgement. he does make mistakes, but i give the guy kudo’s for being around when the sharks need some decent cover. ruan: he needed to mix it up a little. he is the opposite of rory, as he gets rid of everything he gets. it would have been nice if he had tried a little more himself or kicking the ball a little just to keep the lions guessing. he became a little predictable because the lions knew they could target juan cause ruan wasn’t going to use the ball. now the real problem the forwards: they play brilliantly, but simple problems let them down. firstly they are all to busy trying to get ball at the breakdown that they forget to clear opposition players out. the first man to the tackle needs to play like bakkies or phil waugh. we definitely cannot have keegan, botes and ryan playing together. this is the reason the lions were all over our tackled players like a rash. our backline couldn’t make the breaks because our forwards never cleared the ball out fast enough to catch the gaps in defence. the lions had us where they wanted us. but as you say it never looked like we were going to lose the game. but in the same breathe we never were going to get the bonus point either. if you want a bonus point you have to go for it from the first minute. not the last 20. the last 20 is when you bring on odwa to keep the lead safe and the 5 points in the bag.

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.10.09 07:35:25 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 62) : I wasn’t including you in there Try Time because you are not one of those whose emotions rise and fall with the performance of the Sharks. You are always pessimistic. :wink: :grin:

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.10.09 14:28:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 61) :

    I dont think its so much a case of turning on individual players as it is the fact that we expect certain things to happen and they dont although they can..

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.10.09 14:40:00 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 64) :

    If that makes sense.. :lol:

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.10.09 14:41:37 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 64) : One match Ice, one match. After the Bulls match, everyone was talking about how great the Sharks were and would have no problem repeating as CC champs. Then after a close win against the Lions and all of a sudden the problems with the Sharks are so deep. No, sorry, people’s emotions rise and fall far too much with the performance of individual games. What are you going to say next week if we put 70 points on Griquas, and look absolutely superb in the process? Will you all of a sudden be talking about how the Sharks will waltz away with the Currie Beker?

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.10.09 14:42:47 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 66) :

    Off Course yes…That is what makes me a passionate supporter!! :wink:

    And – sorry to dissapoint – I have not for one moment said we are gonna lose out on the CC… not by a far shot – I merely expressed my concern that if we play like we did on Saturday , we are not going to win the CC, for the following reason – does not matter HOW much territory and possesion we have – if we cannot up our game and finish off what we start, against a better team, I dont know if the perfoprmance of the sharks last Saturday will cut it…no matter how many positives there was in the game…simple..

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.10.09 14:54:15 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 67) : hehehe, your passion has certainly never been in question. I look at the game on Saturday a little differently. The Lions played well above their ability, yet the Sharks still had enough to dominate the possession and territory stakes and won the game albeit by a small margin. Truly great teams win those close games when the opposition raises their game and the great team is not firing on all cylinders. The fact the Sharks won the game gave me confidence going forward. Bonus points mean nothing in the semis and finals, a 5-3 win is no different to a 70 point thrashing.

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.10.09 15:00:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 63) : thanks. at least i am consistent. :lol:

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.10.09 15:19:46 by try time Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 66) : i expect them to walk away with it. they will only let themselves down if they don’t. i just hate the way they make their lives harder for themselves.

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.10.09 15:23:20 by try time Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 68) : but a home final is a pay day for the union and a treat for the fans. to throw it away is just plain stupid. but if you ask me will they win the currie cup i’ll be the first to say yes. they have the team that can finish off the contenders.

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.10.09 15:25:43 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 71) : I’m with you 100% there TT.

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.10.09 16:25:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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