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Joe still crocked


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 6 Oct 2009 at 10:04
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If reports are to be believed, things aren’t looking good for big Johann Muller, with the former Sharks captain looking increasingly unlikely to play any further part in this year’s Currie Cup.

Muller has endured a pretty wretched season. In May, he had to watch as his team capitulated in the most alarming way, dropping from top of the Super 14 table to missing out on the semi-finals altogether. Captaining the side to a frankly embarrassing reversal against the British Lions came next, followed by the first of two bad defeats to Western Province. In that first match, he broke his forearm.

My feeling was that he was rushed back altogether too soon after that injury, returning 6 weeks later for the return fixture. The hoodoo remained, however, as Province duly did the double, leaving Muller 0/2 as Currie Cup captain and on a four-match losing streak as skipper in all competitions. The timing of Andries Bekker’s injury meant that Muller was called up to the Bok tour squad and I feel that this ultimately did more harm than good for the big fella. Three weeks carrying tackle bags masked the fact that his arm had not healed correctly and it was only when he started taking some contact, when returning to the Sharks, that it became apparent that something was wrong. Apparently one of the pins that was inserted is causing irritation and every time he takes contact, the arm becomes inflamed and sore.

The prognosis at this stage is not clear, but the chances aren’t good that he’ll play again this season.

The news is better regarding John Smit. The Bok captain looks set to be included in the Sharks team for this weekend’s crucial trip to Kimberley and one would hope that he’d be able to play at least the last 20 minutes, to help the Sharks close out a vital win.



71 Comments

  • Maybe a blessing in disguise? I dont think its only he’s arm that’s crocked…I think he is battling with a bruised ego too…maybe he need some time-off to regroup

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.10.09 11:29:08 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 1) : his form has been floating a bit, giving away lots of penalties, maybe a nice long rest will do him good

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.10.09 11:37:17 by willa Reply

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  • Hey, am I the only one that’s actually going to miss Johann?

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.10.09 11:49:58 by blackshark Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 2) : he’s hardly missed a game in about 5 seasons

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.10.09 12:05:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 3) : we’re already missing him. See our scrum going backwards, even when we have an all Bok front row? That’s Joe not being there

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.10.09 12:06:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    True. We’re still ok in the lineouts…but we’ll miss JM – he’s a bit slow but he makes up for it by working hard.

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.10.09 12:24:56 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    Rhodes?

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.10.09 12:26:19 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 3) : no i miss his johan the player. not johan the captain though. but the player is surely missed in the line up.

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.10.09 12:36:08 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 8) : Johann the Captain doesn’t receive a lot of fanmail… :razz:

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.10.09 12:44:47 by blackshark Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 7) : not sure how good it is as an educational institution… they do enjoy their drinking, though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.10.09 12:45:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • johan “you know” muller is over-rated!

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.10.09 12:47:15 by quota Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 9) : I don’t believe he ever really wanted the role to begin with.

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.10.09 12:49:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.10.09 12:50:32 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : you’re stretching the truth a bit there rod, muller is no bakkies, he doesn’t shore up the scrum! The last game muller played for the sharks he played bollOks

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.10.09 12:51:11 by quota Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : rhodes is still one of the best…

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.10.09 12:52:18 by quota Reply

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  • @quota (Comment 14) : I’ve interviewed tighthead props who have played with Muller. Probably a little more compelling than what you’ve picked up from watching on TV.

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.10.09 12:54:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 14) :

    with a crocked arm…wonder how well you will fair with that..

    @GI Ice (Comment 13) :

    Seriously – cant they start moulding the guy>

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.10.09 12:54:38 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 15) : he has potential. A big unit, seems pretty pacey and has good hands. Gives away some silly penalties, but that will come right. Also seems to have a very high work rate.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.10.09 12:55:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • who’s rod? :wink:

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.10.09 12:58:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 17) : as a lock replacement? My gut feeling is no – reason being, I don’t think he’s got enough mongrel in him. Rhodes just doesn’t “look” like a lock. The thing that’s so good about Johann is that he;s a perfect hybrid 4/5… got the grunt of a four, but the lineout game and “nous” of a 5. Our other fives, Albert and Alistair, are too light to ever bring what Joe brings. I wonder if young Anton Bresler might not develop into the kind of hard-nosed bugger we need. I’m not sure he’s been contracted for next year, though.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.10.09 13:01:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 17) : why was he on the park if it was still crocked?

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.10.09 13:01:35 by quota Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : i dont know if its just me but deysel sometimes switches flanks on attack and the prop hes behind usually fares better

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.10.09 13:02:01 by willa Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) : stay away from mine! :)

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.10.09 13:02:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 22) : correct… they’ll tell you that effective scrummaging actually depends on a pod of three – the prop, the lock and the flank – all working together well. There’s little doubt that Wolla is a more effective scrummager than either Botes or Daniel.

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.10.09 13:03:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) :

    I think he’s talking about the institution.. ;-)

    @quota (Comment 21) :

    Because the fact that he was not healed properly was unknown.. :roll:

    @robdylan (Comment 20) :

    Shit sorry – but I have never categorised Muller in teh “Mongrel” categroy! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.10.09 13:14:12 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 25) : I’m trying to confuse him :)

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.10.09 13:18:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 25) : incompetent medics @ the sharks?

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.10.09 13:19:57 by quota Reply

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  • Suddenly I miss Hmmm… :roll:

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.10.09 13:22:20 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    :lol:

    Seriously on Rhodes..he’s coach at Club level really rated him highly and said that he sees a bright future for him – that was about 1 – 2 years ago…he was smashed when Rhodes injured himself before the club finals..

    I believe locks get better with age / experience..thats why I ask – cant we start moulding him – surely some of the mongrelness can be taugth – or do you disagree? I mean – I can be pretty decent, but when the occasion asks for it, I can be mongrel as hell! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.10.09 13:25:29 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 27) :

    I dont think medics treat those kind of fractures…must have been an orthopeadic surgeon or what you call those people who deal with these things??

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.10.09 13:29:22 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 28) : you think the quality of the trolling has decreased somewhat?

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.10.09 13:30:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 29) : don’t you think he’s better as a flank, though?

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.10.09 13:30:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) :

    Perhaps – I am just looking at size and weight here..very similar to Sykes

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.10.09 13:35:39 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 33) :

    Mind you – appartently the new “criteria” for lock at schoolboy level is 1.98 minimum – so Rhodes will not cut that…1cm too short

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.10.09 13:38:22 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 34) :

    3 cm shorter than Muller, 1kg heavier..

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.10.09 13:40:01 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 34) : criteria? eh? Where did you hear that?

    I’m interviewing Mike tomorrow, btw…

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.10.09 13:40:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • Seems the news is just getting worse and worse . .

    Now we have to face the kwasse without Muller as well? jeez

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.10.09 13:47:30 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    I am sure I heard it on Boots and All or something…but I defnitely heard it fom “valid” source..

    I see there is an interview with him on SR..

    Ask him if he will play lock and become a mongrel if need be!! :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.10.09 13:48:08 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Agree..we are missing him :|

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.10.09 13:55:24 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : :lol:

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.10.09 13:57:11 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • HAHAH- did you see Patrick Lambie’s profile pic – he has a serious 80′s female hairdo! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.10.09 13:57:16 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    BTW…Monty checked you up and down and said you are shorter than what he imagined…he is not even 6 foot, how short ARE you?? :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.10.09 14:01:27 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 42) : that’s the thing… Monty is less than an inch taller than I am! I have no idea what he meant.

    Maybe he was expecting me to be chubbier.

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.10.09 14:13:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :

    …but you fooled him good, hey??

    **thinking thank goodness he did not meet you a year ago**** :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.10.09 14:20:03 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @quota (Comment 11) : I’d rather hear Mullers “I know” than Victor’s “ja no definitely”. Honestly the man can not answer a question in English without saying “ja no definitely” first.

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.10.09 14:32:54 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 45) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.10.09 14:47:15 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 46) : One of the reasons I don’t want to see Dewalt Potgieter as captain, he too can not answer a question without ja no definitely first.

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.10.09 14:52:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 47) :

    Sheesh I am chasing you all over the site!! :mrgreen:

    You see Morras – Dewalt is not even an OPTION!! :twisted:

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.10.09 14:56:20 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 48) : ja no definitely!

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.10.09 15:05:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 48) : I have to say this is rather rare for me, a beautiful woman chasing me. Just does not happen much….OK not at all. :wink:

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.10.09 15:06:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: There’s always a first!! ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.10.09 15:08:47 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 51) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) : get a room, you two :)

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.10.09 15:10:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :

    hey – give a girl a chance to at leats accept a compliment with grace and enjoy the moment, will ya! :lol:

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.10.09 15:18:15 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 53) : beauty and intelligence in one package, and not just intelligence, but brilliance, I mean you are a passionate Sharks supporter!

    Oh and Rob, it is not easy tossing compliments across the Atlantic, I mean the time difference in itself makes it difficult. :wink:

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.10.09 15:21:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 54) : he he… you are an old master, despite what you say :)

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.10.09 15:33:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 54) :

    At least SOMEONE has noticed… :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.10.09 15:37:12 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : Well you got part of it right….the “old” part. :wink:

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.10.09 15:40:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 56) : I am willing to bet that pretty much everyone has noticed. You have to understand something about us men, we are easily intimidated by beautiful and intelligent women, and instead of complimenting as we really want to do, we rather stammer and stutter and say something like “you’re so hot”. :wink: And then blush knowing how stupid that sounded and we usually walk away incredibly embarrassed.

    A few thousand miles and the relative anonymity of the internet gives me great confidence. And you can not see me blush or hear me stammer and stutter. :lol:

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.10.09 15:43:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 58) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.10.09 15:55:41 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 45) : Isn’t it “You know” you know!!

  • Comment 60, posted at 06.10.09 15:57:29 by Volstruis Reply

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  • ;-)

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.10.09 15:58:31 by Volstruis Reply

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  • @Volstruis (Comment 60) : I know it’s you know, I just don’t know how to type you know apparently, you know?

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.10.09 15:58:49 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • :lol: I know exactly what you mean I also too sukkel met die typing thing sometimes!!

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.10.09 16:06:04 by Volstruis Reply

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  • @Volstruis (Comment 63) :

    English, Volla!, DB’s Afrikaans is a bit rusty from all teh seawater!! :wink:

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.10.09 16:17:36 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Shame about Johan though…but time was bount to take its toll…I can remember we played a sevens tournament for primary schools in Mosselbay (park primary school. All of us about 12 years old and there were Johan already the size he is now(Hy het defnitief al geskeer op daardie stadium) this huge guy from this small plaas skooltjie outside Herbertsdale. The six other players in his team were kind of crap but they always scored against the other teams in the form of Johan walking the width of the field with 3 or 4 guys on top of him…

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.10.09 16:27:04 by Volstruis Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 64) : All the seawater between South Africa and America. :lol:

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.10.09 16:30:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 64): Sorry it sometimes happen I dont even notice it anymore…I think somewhere between translating it from afrikaans into english and the typing something gets lost somewhere :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.10.09 16:34:14 by Volstruis Reply

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  • @Volstruis (Comment 67) : You are doing just fine for having to translate every thought into a different language. Actually I am fairly good at understanding Afrikaans, my problem is I have not spoken any Afrikaans in so long, I am always searching for the correct word.

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.10.09 17:19:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : Indubitably.

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.10.09 07:42:11 by blackshark Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 1) : maybee… i would think so as well but am a bit worried about how light the pack is gonna be and especially without diesel deysel.

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.10.09 08:01:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 70) :

    True Reks – but a ‘broken” man means nothing on the field..IMO

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