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Fourie’s fight with the Lions goes on


Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :In the news, Lions, WP on 12 Oct 2009 at 07:17

Springbok centre Jaque Fourie’s arbitration hearing relating to his contractual dispute with the Golden Lions Rugby Union will continue today and should be concluded by tomorrow afternoon.

Craig Ray reports for The Times that Fourie is disputing the validity of his contract, which binds him to the Lions until October 2010. He wants to take up a more lucrative offer from Western Province at the end of the month. He has already resigned from the Lions.

Fourie could have played for the Lions against WP at the weekend, but, because he had resigned, he failed to make himself available for selection.

Independent arbitrator Schalk Burger was tasked with finding a solution to the matter last month and will make his final decision some time this week. His decision will be final, but, given Fourie’s fallout at the Lions, it will raise some serious problems for the player if the ruling goes the Lions’ way.

One Lions insider told The Times: “The Lions don’t care if they have to take a R10-million loan to fight this, they are going to make Fourie honour his contract, even if he has to mow the stadium lawn for the next year.”

Fourie’s lawyer, Frikkie Erasmus, did concede that if the arbitrator ruled for the Lions it would be a difficult position for Fourie.

“Jaque has said he won’t return to the Lions because there has been a breakdown in the relationship with the union, so it’s not only about the contract,” Erasmus said.

“It would be an awkward situation for Jaque if the arbitrator rules in favour of the Lions, because it’s one thing to say there is, or isn’t, a binding agreement and another thing to force someone to play. No one can really do that and there may be a further spin-off in the whole saga because it then becomes an employment/relationship issue, which is different from a contractual dispute.”

But a ruling in favour of the player could have serious repercussions for the sport, as it would call into question the validity of all professional contracts.

The Lions union is also finalising a short list of candidates for the position of director of coaching today. The board meets at 4pm to narrow the list of at least 10 names down to a select group.

The Times understands that former Bulls Super 14-winning coach Heyneke Meyer has applied for the job.



37 Comments

  • ‘Independent arbitrator Schalk Burger was tasked with finding a solution to the matter last month and will make his final decision some time this week.’

    What the hell?? :shock: Schalk Burger senior?? The very guy who’s son plays for WP??

    Surely there is a conflict of interest…

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.10.09 07:19:48 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) : I think it’s a different Schalk Burger.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.10.09 07:41:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) :

    Oh… :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.10.09 07:53:30 by wpw Reply
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  • WeePee-lluminati!

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.10.09 08:28:50 by blackshark Reply

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  • Cutting the grass until his contract is up would be a apt, maybe he can get that legal eagle Frikkie Erasmus to rake up after him

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.10.09 09:11:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 5) :

    Somehow I doubt you would be taking this position if it were the Sharks who wanted to sign Fourie!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.10.09 09:27:23 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 6) : our attempts to sign Alberts and Ludick are contingent on Fourie’s contract being declared null and void…

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.10.09 09:35:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    No wonder the Lions are fighting tooth and nail!! :shock:

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.10.09 09:46:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : you dont think they will come to a mutual agreement? WP and Sharks compensate a little and Lions release players from their contracts? opening up the way for many similar transfers in the future

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.10.09 09:50:22 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 9) : who knows. But statements about “making a player mow the lawn” are stupid and inflammatory and don’t help anybody. The Lions are flexing muscles that they don’t have at the moment…

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  • @wpw (Comment 6) :
    Bah, see robs #7 comment and anyway we have Adi.
    Fourie is acting (I presume on “legal” advice) like a petulant kid, Ludik, Alberts and whoever else may be in line to move are still giving their all for their team – respect.

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.10.09 10:24:31 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :
    That is no official statement – an unnamed source + a journalist = 0

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.10.09 10:26:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 11) :

    That is no way to speak about THE WORLD’S GREATEST 13!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.10.09 10:34:45 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) :
    And that is exactly what the problem is – he believes all the lekker things people tell him, first his/ WPs lawyer, and then his wife on his wedding night.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.10.09 10:42:41 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 14) :

    bwahahahaha :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.10.09 10:57:06 by wpw Reply
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  • The Lions still have a lot of support out there- they just need to make sensible decisions and revive the team – then people will flock back to the stadium. Wasting money on senseless battles is not going to do much for the team…

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.10.09 12:37:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 16) :

    I read that Heyneke Meyer has applied for the position of DOR at the Lions!! :shock:

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.10.09 12:46:02 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : Jake White’s expert insight … Heyneke Meyer… and a lawnmower worth R10 million – the Lions will be the best team in 2010… :roll:

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.10.09 12:50:54 by blackshark Reply

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  • Goes to show how priorities work in the city of gold.

    No wonder they have no team.

    Instead of getting their house in order they’re doing everything they can to stop a player leaving. A player, it must eb said, who has been a great servant to the union. A union which, by all accounts, treats their playing staff poorly and their coaching staff even worse.
    A union who thought nothing of trying to poach a few players of their own from smaller unions a few short weeks ago with Jake White phoning up players to make offers to contracted players in the middle of training!

    The worst part is how short-sighted this is – Jacque has a get-out clause to play for a foreign club rendering him ineligible to play for the Boks.
    He would rather stay in SA – just not at a union as terrible at the Lions.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.10.09 18:22:34 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 19) :
    And despite all this they snotted Province over the weekend and nearly upset the Sharks at KP a week earlier.
    There is a reason that his “get out clause” is only valid for a foreign team, its so that he wont play for another SA team, whatever the GLRU’s reasoning is for that is irrelevant because thats what they wanted and more importantly its what he agreed to.

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.10.09 08:21:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 19) : isn’t it what it’s all about – to stop the players from leaving once you have invested in them.

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.10.09 08:55:08 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 20) : Lions have exciting moments but that’s clearly not enough :|

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.10.09 08:57:39 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 21) : I’d argue that the Lions have invested more in Fourie than he has in them…. he’s a crock-a-minute. Doubt he’s played more than 5 Currie Cup games for them in his career

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.10.09 09:14:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
    and many more for old age :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.10.09 09:34:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Happy Birthday bud, hope you have a good one,

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.10.09 09:39:37 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) :
    Thats right. Happy birtday Rob!!!!

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.10.09 09:43:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : ive been trying to find how many caps he has, my internet skills suck today

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.10.09 09:43:58 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 25) : and many more to come, and don’t worry ur still a youngster :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.10.09 09:46:03 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : that’s why they do not have a reason to let him go. thereturn is still coming. BTW he makes them look better in S14.

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.10.09 09:49:47 by rekinek Reply
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  • Happy Birfday Robbo!!

    Have a good one!! ;-)

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.10.09 09:54:26 by wpw Reply
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  • thanks guys :)

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.10.09 09:56:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Happy Birthay Rob…..may you get a couple of nice birtday presents in the next couple of weeks with the BIG present coming om 31 October 2009 :lol: :cool:

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.10.09 10:01:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : from your lips to God’s ears, Pokkel :)

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.10.09 10:02:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) :

    So how does it feel to be 48??? :twisted:

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.10.09 10:09:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 34) : be sure to tell me, cos you’ll get there first :)

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.10.09 10:21:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) :

    Dude, what you talking about… I’ll be 25 in March!!! :roll:

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.10.09 10:32:58 by wpw Reply
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  • HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :cool: Dude :smile:

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.10.09 10:51:11 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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