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What’s going on at the Coke Tin?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content on 13 Oct 2009 at 09:43
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Amazingly enough, while there should be so much focus on the four teams that actually made the Currie Cup semis, it’s the Lions that seem to be grabbing the headlines.

New stories from Johannesburg are emerging on an almost hourly basis, most of them based on the theme of “X has now been linked to the vacant Director of Rugby post” or “player Y has signed with the Lions for 2010″. The occasional smattering of angry rhetoric from Manie Reynecke stating that “Z has a contract with us and is going nowhere” make up the balance.

Let’s try to summarise the goings on.

Ever since Jake White and his Highbury Safika-sponsored Winning Ways got their claws into the union, the knives were out for coach Loffie Eloff in a big way. The popular coach was duly sacked and Monument first team mentor Hans Coetzee installed as caretaker coach for the Currie Cup. Opinions differ somewhat as to whether any progress was made, with the Lions finishing sixth in the final standings. An impressive win over Western Province did a little to leave the supporters feeling better, but in the final analysis, only Boland and the Leopards did worse than the Lions this year. Certain “journalists” with pretty transparent White-blowing agendas will tell you that the Lions lost five games by fewer than five points and never conceded a four-try bonus-point over the course of the competition – sure proof that Jake has made a difference.

I say “looks at the scoreboard”, in the famous words of Oom Boy Louw.

So, the writing has been on the wall for Coetzee right from the starts and the position of Director, who will also be head coach in the Super 14, was duly advertised a few weeks ago. Rumours abounded about who may have applied (Alistair Coetzee’s name was mentioned, since he’s always been a close ally of White’s) and who, surprisingly, had not done so (current coach Hans Coetzee). Late-breaking news would indicate that a number of heavyweights, including Rudy “everything I touch turns to shit” Joubert and Heynecke Meyer have thrown their hats into the ring. Dick Muir, the current Springbok assistant coach, would now appear to be the front-runner, however and his name is expected to top the ultra-secret shortlist of five names that was apparently compiled late yesterday. A final decision is expected on Friday.

Now, not to shoot down the ambitions of either men, but I really can’t see why either Meyer or Muir would want the job. Both have coached, with great success, at Super 14 level already and left good, secure jobs with the Bulls and Sharks respectively because they felt they’d done all they could do at Super rugby level. Muir, in particular, would be crazy to give up his Bok assistant coach gig for this one… The other unknown, of course, is the extent to which White will still be involved next year. Should his consultancy firm have done enough to be retained, then expect to see a White yes-man appointed as head coach – either of the Coetzees, or even Eddie Jones would fit that bill.

On the player front, we’ve been told that none of Jacque Fourie, Willem Alberts or Louis Ludick is going anywhere, although the courts will soon rule on exactly how binding their contracts are. Should Fourie be forced to stay, then Alberts and Ludick will too. Should he be given a release to join Province, expect to see Alberts and Ludick in the black and white next season.

On the acquisitions front, the Lions are signing everything that isn’t bolted down. They have already announced the signing of Bulls’ third-choice flyhalf Burton Francis as their first-choice for next season. Add the name of journeyman Griquas skipper Jonathan Mokuena, while lock forward Jacques Lombard is also very close to signing. Bulls utility back Marius Delport, basically a JP Nel wannabe, only with fewer skills and less aggression, has also confirmed that he’ll be moving to Johannesburg next season.



55 Comments

  • everything i touch turns to shitt belongs to Chester Williams.

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.10.09 09:50:14 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Hans Van Dyk has been cited for chomping on Flo’s arm!! :|

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.10.09 09:58:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 1) : fair comment, fair comment… then again, Joubert ain’t done much better, has he? I actually quite like the guy, but his record speaks volumes

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.10.09 09:58:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 2) : no shit? http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2009/10/13/lions-hooker-bites-then-skips-country/

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.10.09 09:58:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • You forgot to mention Tonderai! Happy Birthday Rob!

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.10.09 11:00:48 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • I really hope your sources are correct and I really hope Dick and Meyer are interested. Appoint one of them and watch the Lions within 18 months….. grrrrrr, lekkerrrrrrr.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.10.09 11:31:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Wow its the week before the semi’s and you boys are talking about the Lions, SOMETHING WRONG!! or are we two sides who do not hold out much hope?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.10.09 11:34:20 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 7) :
    The opposite, Sharks are going about their business while the world prepares for a Bulls / Cheetahs final – ideal.

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.10.09 11:58:25 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 8) :

    It will be a Sharks vs Bulls final…but make sure you pick a heavier pack than the one that played us.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.10.09 12:14:49 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 9) : So who would you support in a Bulls/Sharks final?

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.10.09 12:57:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR ROBOTTO!! :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.10.09 12:59:37 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 9) : remember who is the boggy side for the sharks, the Cheetahs have spoilt many a shark party!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.10.09 13:36:14 by Whindy Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 11) :Ice, love the cammo

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.10.09 13:37:20 by Whindy Reply
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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 5) : ah thanks – knew there was a journeyman I’d forgotten :)

    Thanks for the wishes, ou pêl :)

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.10.09 13:50:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 13) :

    Dankie man!

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.10.09 14:04:46 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) :

    Very difficult to say, I think both sides will be strong, but I think the Bulls pack will be too much for the Sharks pack, and probably allow them to take the game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.10.09 15:03:48 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 16) : Thanks Walter, but the question was who would you support in a final, who would you rather have as CC champs.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.10.09 15:10:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 17) :

    Western Province!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.10.09 15:10:54 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) :

    Carrent you READ?? He said F I N A L ;-)

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.10.09 15:18:27 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 17) :

    The Lions, but I’ll have to wait until next year… :roll:

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.10.09 15:21:10 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 20) : Good luck ;-)

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.10.09 15:22:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) :

    We know about waiting… ;-)

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.10.09 15:23:29 by GI Ice Reply
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  • what do you make of the prospect of having Ludik and alberts at the sharks?

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.10.09 13:30:55 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 23) : I love the idea and hope it happens :)

    Wolla 6, Kanko 7 and Alberts 8… potentially the best loose trio in the world :)

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.10.09 13:42:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • yea and Ludik could definitely do nicely in a already powerful back 3

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.10.09 13:49:29 by Miguel Reply
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  • Alberts and Ludik met with the Lions union yesterday, and are now waiting to see if the Lions will match their offers from the Sharks.

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.10.09 13:59:03 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 26) :

    So if they match it, they wont go?

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.10.09 14:02:32 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 27) : I guess

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.10.09 14:04:55 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 26) : can they match it? the lions don’t have as much money as the sharks :grin:

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.10.09 14:05:44 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : there is no fetcher in that mix :???:

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.10.09 14:06:26 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 29) :

    And you know that for a fact?

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.10.09 14:08:37 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Comment 27) :

    :mrgreen: If they match – the Sharks will “unmatch” them…

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.10.09 14:08:55 by blackshark Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 28) :

    So then I get the idea they are just playing the Lions for more money.. :?: Like Habana?? Do we really then want them if they do not really WANT to come… :?:

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.10.09 14:10:03 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 31) : unless the lions have money hidden away somewhere, im pretty sure, do you have contrary info?

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.10.09 14:13:39 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 34) :

    I’ve never seen either of their bank statements so I don’t have any idea. I’m sure we will have enough money to keep 2 players though. It’s not like they earn multiple millions

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.10.09 14:17:36 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • I would put money on it that the Lions would be prepared to offer more money than the Sharks. I’d think they’d want to move for “other reasons”.

    War1 – Deysel is the best fetcher in our team :)

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.10.09 14:18:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 32) : not with Strooli holding the purse strings, they won’t :twisted:

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.10.09 14:19:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : yeah, its not like we have a fetcher at the mo anyway, what might those “other reasons” be :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.10.09 14:22:24 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) :

    The “right” reasons?

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.10.09 14:23:56 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Which doesn’t say much about Botes and Keegan :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.10.09 14:24:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 39) :

    as in my post 33??

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.10.09 14:25:26 by GI Ice Reply
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  • I would play

    6 ??? Fetcher
    7 Deysel
    8 Alberts ( with Kanko coming on for the last 30 min)

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.10.09 14:25:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 40) : correct :)

    @Pokkel (Comment 42) : nah – Kanko has never made an impact as a sub, to my mind.

    @war1 (Comment 38) : not losing every game

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.10.09 14:30:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 42) :

    Cant you remember Fetchers first name?? :lol:

    It was like me when I 1st started watching cricket…someone ask me how we are doing – I said great we have two wickets…Hayden and Maiden… :roll: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.10.09 14:31:19 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 42) : i’d rather have kanko. alberts can cover when kanko is away with springboks.

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.10.09 14:33:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 44) : We haven’t bought him yet :roll:

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.10.09 14:34:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 46) :

    You dont say!!! :roll:

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.10.09 14:35:11 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 45) : At the moment Albert’s deserves a starting spot above Kanko I’m afraid….

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.10.09 14:36:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Comment 47) : I wonder how airtight Brussow’s contract with the Cheetah’s are??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 49, posted at 14.10.09 14:37:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 46) : cant we grow one ?

    @Pokkel (Comment 48) : neee – i know kanko’s lighter but bit more imaginative.

  • Comment 50, posted at 14.10.09 14:37:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) :

    Mmmmmmmmm…..I wonder…maybe time I should get in contact with my mates in the States… :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.10.09 14:59:32 by GI Ice Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 50) : Not enough time
    @GI Ice (Comment 51) : good idea

  • Comment 52, posted at 14.10.09 15:05:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • woah How can you guys even think of putting Alberts before Kanko……. Never Ever come on!!! where is the loyalty towards a player that has been a star performer and a vital cog in the team….. even if spies joined i would play Ryan!!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.10.09 09:25:57 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 53) :

    I would play Kanko before Spies anytime..

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.10.09 10:14:17 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Yes for sure!! I would love to see the Sharks somehow fit in albert kanko and deysel as the loose trio somehow that would be insanely powerful!!! thats if alberts joins

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