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Leaving the Tank


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 1 Nov 2009 at 12:32
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Sharksworld can confirm that flyhalf Len Olivier will not play for the Sharks in 2010, having signed a contract with French Top 14 side Montauban.

Olivier moved to the Sharks from the Valke a year ago, but has enjoyed limited game time, having represented the Sharks XV a few times in the Vodacom Cup and cracking a solitary bench appearance for the Sharks in the Currie Cup. He leaves on Tuesday and we wish him the best of luck for his new adventure with the green and blacks.

Other (unconfirmed) departures before the season kicks off are those of utility forward Nikolai Blignaut and Bok centre Waylon Murray. It’s not know where Blignaut will be going, but it looks like he definitely won’t be in Durban next year. Murray has attractive offers from both the Lions and the Bulls and it’s not yet sure which one he’ll choose. He looks really unlikely to stay with the Sharks, though and the smart money should be on him following mentor Dick Muir to Johannesburg.

Looking at younger players, utility back Dauw Steyn (who played a bit of flyhalf for the Sharks under 21s) will be moving to Pretoria next year, having received an attractive offer from the Bulls. Also, one of the standout players of the KZN Craven Week side, Glenwood’s massive Jon-Roy Jenkinson, will be joining up with the Leopards next year.

More on these (and, no doubt, other similar stories) as they develop.



62 Comments

  • I really hope Waylon doesn’t leave. Disappointed Len didn’t get his opportunity.

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.11.09 13:24:06 by MerckZ Reply
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  • Why would you hope that he doesn’t leave?

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.11.09 13:59:04 by Hmmm Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 2) : worried that Dick might turn him into a world beater again

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.11.09 15:50:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • So the Bulls have just signed another young flyhalf. And he’s an Afrikaner. Dont they want souties in their Tswane team??
    :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.11.09 17:21:33 by wpw Reply
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  • He’s a local boy, and was great with Barritt on his inside. I still rate him. Losing depth is always bad…

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.11.09 17:30:22 by MerckZ Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : who? From where? Why do they need yet another?

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.11.09 17:49:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : oh, sorry. You meant Steyn :-) must be the name

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.11.09 17:50:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yep. Duaw Steyn… :roll:
    I dont blame Waylon for wanting more game time. I mean Plum selecting Dries ahead of him was just ridiculous…

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.11.09 18:14:43 by wpw Reply
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  • i am not surprised this Len guy was so promising with Valke and yet seemed to disappear completely in the Sharks basements. Wonder why.

    would be a pity to loose murray but he was not contributing recently.

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.11.09 18:43:15 by rekinek (retreat -ing) Reply
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  • app monty is going to the cheetahs

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.11.09 07:03:21 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 10) : I’ve heard there was talk… we’ll be thin at 10 if he does go.

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.11.09 07:47:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Monty going to Cheetahs?? He impressed me this season even thou he is not really a youngster anymore.(I think) Now the question remains… if Dumond leaves who will we have at flyhalf. I know that the Argie will play during the S 14 but what about CC? I don’t really rate Ruan at flyhalf even thou their are some that support him at that position. He looks far better at 9 but that is my opinion. Cronje maybe but I preferred Dumond.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.11.09 07:53:28 by LandShark Reply

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  • @LandShark (Comment 12) : hes no good at 9, his passing cost us a final against the cheetahs

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.11.09 08:15:22 by willa Reply

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  • According to an arti in Beeld, former Shark and Springbok Lock Johan Ackerman might be the man coaching the Lion’s forwards.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.11.09 08:19:35 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 14) : saw it too, my boet in durbs says all over durban there were posters saying brussow is coming to the sharks

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.11.09 08:21:45 by willa Reply

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  • Ruan Pienaar is just not as good a player (or consistent) as most people think he is.

    I’d rather have a solid player who performs consistently (like Vermaak) than a guy who more often than not just doesn’t deliver when he really needs to.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.11.09 08:24:34 by wpw Reply
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  • Im in the mood for some really good news coming from the Tank, somebody dig up some facts :?:

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.11.09 08:33:33 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • Is there any other flyhalf prospects on the horizen, coming up through the ranks :?: We really need one….. long term!

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.11.09 08:44:56 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 13) : Yes that pass might be the reason why we lost but that was one mistake. Remember the Pienaar at scrumhalf before the powers that be decided he must be a flyhalf? He was very good back then but his form has taken a dip due to his lack of confidence. He will gain his confidence easier at 9 where he feels comfortable then at 10. It is also easy to blame just Ruan for the loss but just remember that his try in last year’s final was a reason for our first CC trophy in more then a decade.(Where he played at 9) Leave him at 9 and he will get his form back of two years ago and be more consistent

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.11.09 08:45:54 by LandShark Reply

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  • Lot of speculation going on….not much fact :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.11.09 08:50:38 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @LandShark (Comment 19) : yes i understand, but if ur player has a problem like that, dont play him in a semi final!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.11.09 09:14:48 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 15) : The rumour surfaced last week, most sources were denying it last week, but now SS doing interviews before the CC final also stated that Brussow is linked to a move Durban.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.11.09 09:16:05 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 22) : it is definitely not happening before the Super 14. I have had that confirmed. He is contracted to the Cheetahs for the Super 14. Maybe afterwards?

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.11.09 09:34:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Cant remember where i read this but apparently Stefan Terblanche will retire sometime next year.

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.11.09 09:44:15 by JarsonX (Insomniac) Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Insomniac) (Comment 24) : he is looking to retire at the end of next season. If things don’t go well in the Super 14, though, who knows?

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.11.09 09:50:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • I like Stefan – but Lambie looks a good prospect for full back- what do u think?

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.11.09 09:51:24 by lovebubble Reply

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  • @lovebubble (Comment 26) : or flyhalf. Or maybe even outside centre if Waylon leaves

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.11.09 09:56:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @lovebubble (Comment 26) : Yeah hope he makes it into the big team ASAP!

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.11.09 11:20:01 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Thats what I thought, and was well resigned to that, until Darren Scott, mentioned it on SS. Is there no chance that the Sharks may be paying out his contract? This is so confusing, surely these commentators etc. should check their facts before announcing a move on TV.

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.11.09 11:23:36 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 29) : one would think

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.11.09 12:29:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 15) :

    I have seen a few “snippets” about it as well…

    I think if this one is true – it will be a real blessing!!

    Good Luck Len – it’s sad that you did not get playtime – Hopefully the french will treat you better! :sad:

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.11.09 13:02:31 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • the sharks cannot afford to lose waylon. he may crab a little, but he is more solid than adi. if he and monty go then i hold out slim hope for the sharks next year. only hope would be for some promising centres and flyhalves to shine. this could be an opening for lambie.

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.11.09 12:33:43 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 32) :

    Do you ever hold out “fat” hope for the Sharks?? :roll:

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.11.09 12:52:28 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 33) :

    One would swear he hates the Sharks!! :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.11.09 13:13:07 by wpw Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 33) : go read my pre season articles on the sharks this year. i did. then after the first game i could see that the team and coach were out of their depth and my attitude towards them. i won’t be making any mistakes next year. they have a good core, i just don’t think they have it mentally to do well. i am hoping i am wrong, but my gut tells me otherwise. one thing might tilt the scale a little though and that is if muller is dropped as captain. with him at the helm the sharks have no chance.

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.11.09 13:31:15 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 34) : i don’t hate them. but i am disappointed in them. how can a team that supplies the most boks, be so poor? it makes you question the administration and coaches. i am sick of watching them throw away trophies.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.11.09 13:33:22 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 36) : i put the blame at plum’s door, especially since he was the one who got the mental coach fired. even the u21s choked this year, i cant see it getting better, it is a problem that has to be met head-on

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.11.09 13:35:14 by war1 Reply
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  • It might be a good move for Waylon to leave the Sharks. He needs to get his career back on track and Dick is probably the best person for that.
    Wouldn’t like to see him go as he has all the attributes as a top quality centre. Hopefully he can get over his injuries, get a full season behind him and regain whatever pace he has lost. A tall order…but a change of scenery may just inspire this!

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.11.09 13:47:56 by Villie Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 36) :

    You guys should never have got rid of Campo!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.11.09 13:56:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 39) :

    Lag maar lekker….elke hond kry sy dag…..wie laaste lag lag lekkerste… ;-)

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.11.09 14:05:20 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 40) : :roll:

    Ja… ja… TANNIE!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.11.09 14:15:42 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 41) :

    Tannie se M@#%!!! ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.11.09 14:40:12 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 37) : funny thing is during the u21 game, my exact thought was almost that. i was amazed that the backline created so much yet never had any idea how to finish. just like the first team.
    just like the sharks i was amazed at how much good work was wasted by poor decision making. the sharks have the players, they just don’t have coaches that can train them to think under pressure.

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.11.09 15:16:37 by try time Reply

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  • what amazes me is there are people defending the coaches and blaming the players. i feel the coaches are as guilty. it is there responsibility to get the players thinking right. even golfers are useless without the correct mental training. it amazes me that the sharks just seem to make the wrong decision at the try line. yet under dick the backline seemed to have more cohesion under an un-structured game plan.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.11.09 15:20:20 by try time Reply

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  • Lions 2009 Super 14 squad includes Willem Alberts and mentions Ludick in rehab for 3 months.

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.11.09 17:24:53 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 45) : They also said Fourie would not be allowed to leave for WP. :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.11.09 17:26:50 by McLovin Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 39) : i agree. and on that note guy – have a read

    Clash of cultures

    The time I spent with the Sharks gives me some insight into how Robbie Deans must be feeling.

    Having lost yet another Test with the Wallabies – the seventh in a row against the All Blacks – the heat will probably be turned up on Deans because no matter how you look at it his record with Australia is not a good one.

    It must be quite hard for Deans to swallow given how successful he was with the Crusaders but funnily enough that may be exactly where the problem lies.

    Deans is a Canterbury man. He comes from Christchurch where rugby is king. He is accustomed to conducting himself and coaching within a structure that lives, breaths and sleeps rugby while dealing with players who are myopic in their focus on the game.

    Deans was seen as the man who would wave a magical wand and turn the Wallabies into world beaters but it just has not happened and the reason is the clash of cultures he has run into.

    There’s a difference in mentality when you go from one country to another and my experience with the Sharks – even though I wasn’t the head coach – gave me a taste of what Deans must be going through. You may have a big reputation and lots of experience but somehow to the locals you are always a foreigner, an outsider.

    There is an element of mistrust; a constant questioning, even if never spoken, of “what do you know anyway?”

    I remember A.J. Venter was one of the players who pretty much did not give me the time of day at the Sharks. I would try to suggest things and he would simply ignore them.

    There were also difficulties with the way I like to do things. I’m paranoid about the little things, about getting them right. If you can’t place a chip-kick on the button then you must practice until you can; if you can’t pass the ball off your left hand then, even if it takes four hours a day, work on it until it becomes second nature.

    I remember organising for Alan Jones (coach of the 1984 Grand Slam Wallabies) to give a talk at the Sharks and him getting a sense that I was not fully accepted and telling them “hey, this guy has scored 64 Test tries, he holds the world record, he knows the way to the try line so learn from him.” No-one seemed to pick it up.

    I get a sense that might be what is happening to Robbie Deans. Sure he’s had bad luck with injuries and I see there’s quite a bit of whingeing about referees but deep down the players look at him and he’s speaking a foreign language.

    That said, though, you’ve also got to look at the cattle. If you haven’t got the cattle you’re not going to get the job done so perhaps it’s time the players looked at themselves.

    The Tokyo Test was again lost because of simple mistakes when the pressure was on and I’m afraid you can’t blame the coach for that.

    I can say without fear of contradiction that the skill levels in the ’84 side were greater than they are in the current side so that can only mean the game has gone backwards.

    There was a moment in one of the Tests in South Africa when Peter Hynes broke out. Threatened by Bismarck du Plessis all he had to do was pass to a man running inside to set up a try, but he passed behind him and the chance was gone. That’s the kind of thing I’m talking about. YOU’VE GOT TO GET THE BASICS RIGHT!

    Just the other day a former Wallaby came into my shop shaking his head after watching a Wallaby training session. He was astounded that during the skills warm-up the players had constantly passed the ball behind the receiver, instead of in front, but was shocked to hear the skills coach say he was happy with the level of proficiency in the team.

    Robbie Deans, as is the modern way, will probably end up being the scapegoat if this team fails to emulate the 1984 Grand Slam Wallabies, and I’m afraid I can’t see them winning all four over there, but the irony is that he would probably have made a damn good coach of the All Blacks!

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.11.09 17:42:18 by rekinek (retreat -ing) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 46) :
    True, but are they allowed to put our players on their squad sheets. :twisted:

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.11.09 09:56:04 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @rekinek (retreat -ing) (Comment 47) :
    Very interesting read, no doubt lots of truth as well and the Sharks backline did look dangerous when Campo was around. One niggeling question regarding him is why he isnt coaching at a high level (or is he)
    AJ was a forward, I dont blame him for ignoring Campo who was probably trying to get him to play centre.

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.11.09 10:00:44 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 48) : :mrgreen: They are in denial.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.11.09 10:01:23 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 49) :

    Apparently Campo is on a “wanted” list for Fraud…Morne Steyn was done in by an old FS fullback or something for fraudulent investment, and Campo seems to be part of that camp too… :shock:

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.11.09 10:19:33 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • Guys lets face it. We`re not supporting a professional outfit anymore.
    Sure they like to keep up appearances by investing in one big name player every now and then. But then they go ahead and surround him with plonkers.
    This year was just a total disaster of poor team selection ( pienaar above Charl, Strauss in stead of Murray) and k@! tactics. Kicking the ball to the cheetahs all the time in stead of either running it or kicking it out since they didn`t even have a hooker in the team!!!
    So yes Plum is to blame but so are the players.
    John Smit should have had a word with Stefan when he saw this but kept silent!

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.11.09 11:08:05 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 52) :

    Kept silent maybe to proof a point?? ;-)

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.11.09 11:10:25 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 53) : mmmm now that you mention it . . . I haven`t looked at it that way

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 53) : i just wonder how high the sharks are in john’s priority list…

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.11.09 11:28:38 by rekinek (retreat -ing) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 51) : :shock:

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.11.09 12:12:13 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @rekinek (retreat -ing) (Comment 55) :

    I do not doubt his loyalty one bit..

    @Salmonoid (Comment 56) :

    Sammy – read this:

    ’n Voormalige heelagter van die Vrystaat word deur die polisie in Bloemfontein gesoek nadat hy die Springbok- en Blou Bul-losskakel Morné Steyn na bewering uit R250 000 bedrieg het.

    ’n Lasbrief vir die inhegtenisneming van Ernest Viljoen (49) is uitgereik, het supt. Annelie Wrench, polisiewoordvoerder, gister gesê.

    Viljoen het in die laat 1970’s en vroeë 1980’s vir die Vrystaatse rugbyspan op heelagter uitgedraf.

    Mnr. J.C. Gie (67) is gister in verband met dieselfde motorwasprojek waarvoor Viljoen gesoek word in Bloemfontein in hegtenis geneem.

    Sy verhoor is gister in die landdroshof tot 15 Desember uitgestel. Hy is op borgtog van R5 000 vrygelaat, word verneem.

    Die naam van nog ’n bekende in rugbykringe, die legendariese voormalige Wallaby-vleuel David Campese, is glo ook by die beweerde bedrogskema betrek, deurdat beweer is hy het die motorwasmasjiene vervaardig en dat dit eksklusief uit Australië ingevoer sou word.

    Steyn en sy pa, mnr. Johan Steyn van Fichardtpark, is blykbaar in September/Oktober 2007 genader met ’n sakevoorstel dat Steyn die bedryfsreg vir dié masjiene in Gauteng vir R250 000 kon koop.

    Enigeen wat die masjiene dan sou wou koop, moes dit teen ’n kommissie deur hom koop. Met die R250 000 sou vir Steyn 32 masjiene gekoop word.

    Steyn en sy pa is selfs na Fourways, Johannesburg, waar 60 masjiene aan hulle gewys is.

    Dit is aan hulle voorgehou dat dit aan Viljoen en Gie behoort, wat later geblyk het nie so was nie.

    Steyn se ma, Marita, het op 18 Oktober 2007 die R250?000 uit haar seun se bankrekening in Viljoen se rekening inbetaal.

    Intussen blyk dit die bedryfsreg wat Steyn gekoop het, bestaan nie. Die vervaardiger Selli, wat die masjiene werklik vervaardig, verkoop dit op die ope mark waar enigeen dit kan koop.

    Dit is ook nie deur Campese vervaardig nie en word nie ingevoer nie.

    Steyn se pa het gister gesê hy ken Viljoen al jare lank.

    Hulle het saam vir die klub Oud-Studente in Bloemfontein rugby gespeel en ook later saam by Schoemanspark rugby afgerig.

    “Hy en Gie was hier in my huis en het saam met ons geëet. Gie het nog die tafelgebed gedoen. Hý sou die geldsake behartig.”

    Hy het gesê hy het ’n kantoor in Bloemfontein gehuur en toegerus om sy seun se deel van die onderneming te bestuur. Die R16 000 wat dit hom gekos het, is ook verlore.

    Courtesy of BEELD

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.11.09 12:16:08 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • Steyn se ma, Marita, het op 18 Oktober 2007 die R250?000 uit haar seun se bankrekening in Viljoen se rekening inbetaal.

    I would not mind a cashflow of R250K plus more in my bank account.. :roll:

  • Comment 58, posted at 04.11.09 12:18:44 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • Klink vir my soos ‘n geldwassery storie.

  • Comment 59, posted at 04.11.09 12:22:02 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 58) : suddenly you feel less sorry for them :mrgreen:

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 59) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.11.09 12:31:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 59) :

    :lol:

    @rekinek (retreat -ing) (Comment 60) :

    you are right! :lol:

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