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Chiliboy ready to chuck it in at the Bulls


Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :Bulls, In the news, Lions on 5 Nov 2009 at 13:37

The Lions may have failed to make a mark on the rugby field for some time now but their new-found ambition for success could see them raid the Blue Bulls kraal of one of their rising stars in Springbok Chiliboy Ralepelle.

The deal could also apparently see the hooker become the new Lions captain.

Vata Ngobeni reports for The Pretoria News:

 Ralepelle earlier in 2009 renewed his contract with the Bulls for another two years but the Bulls’ decision to re-sign former Springbok hooker Gary Botha from English club Harlequins has possibly soured what seemed like a matrimony that could have seen Ralepelle become the first African captain of the Bulls.

However, the Bulls are adamant that Ralepelle is going nowhere and that an offer by the Lions for the hooker will be a direct contravention of rugby laws as he is still under contract to the Bulls. Also permission has not been granted by the Bulls for negotiations to take place.

Nevertheless, Ralepelle’s legal team which consists of top lawyer Ferdie Hartzenburg, who is also Springbok coach Peter de Villiers’ legal representative, have apparently been hard at work trying to find a loop hole in the players agreement with the Bulls. This after Botha’s signing which could see Ralepelle not automatically become the Bulls No.1 hooker.

The past two years have been frustrating for Ralepelle after he recovered from an injury that sidelined him for 18 months but also saw him fall down the pecking order behind Derick Kuun, who will next year move back to flank.

It seems that the assumption was that Kuun’s move would open up the door for Ralepelle to finally start in the No.2 jersey for the Bulls. This would give him the opportunity to prove his worth as the second-best hooker in the country by virtue of him being second in line in the Springbok team.

“Ralepelle is contracted to us until 2011. There has been no breach of contract with the commitments we have agreed to with Chiliboy. If he is injury free and the best then he will start and will get his game time. Nothing has happened and any claims of such a breach are ridiculous.

“If there is a request to talk to him then it is a decision we will have to make. We signed him because we believe in his ability and he can be one of our leaders in the team,” said Blue Bulls Company High performance manager Ian Schwartz on Tuesday.

Schwartz, however, did confirm that there had been informal talks between Lions CEO Manie Reyneke, who would not comment on the issue and BBC CEO Barend van Graan but nothing materialised.

Newly appointed Lions director of rugby and Springbok assistant coach Dick Muir would not be drawn into confirming the Lions desire to sign Ralepelle.

“I don’t know much about what is happening at the Lions and Manie Reyneke would be the best person to talk to,” Muir said.

The Lions have already made inroads in the Bulls kraal with the acquisition of flyhalf Burton Francis, Louis Boshoff and Marius Delport but the significant signature would be that of Ralepelle.

The Bulls have already lost star wing Bryan Habana to Western Province and the Stormers, former Springbok Wayne Julies to a French club and upcoming Emerging Springbok wing Rocco Jansen to Eastern Province.

The proposed deal from Australian Super 14 outfit, Western Force for the Bulls latest Springbok hooker Bandise Maku fell through which raised concern at Loftus that an exodus of their rising black rugby talent is imminent.

“That is obviously a concern. But out of the 26 players we have released in the past two years 18 have been white. Sometimes we release players for the good of their careers. They then have the chance to become No.1 in their position somewhere else Chiliboy, however, is one of our products,” Schwartz said.

It has emerged that there is also interest from the Sharks to sign Ralepelle in light of word that key members of the Springbok starting team might be withdrawn from playing in the 2010 Currie Cup.

Ralepelle was the first African player to captain a Springbok XV two years ago against a World XV in Leicester and will lead the Springbok second string on Friday in their opening match of the end-of-year tour against Leicester.



125 Comments

  • So it seems Chili wants out at the Bulls!! :shock:

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.11.09 13:41:22 by wpw Reply
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  • hmmmm….

    I don’t get this bit It has emerged that there is also interest from the Sharks to sign Ralepelle in light of word that key members of the Springbok starting team might be withdrawn from playing in the 2010 Currie Cup.

    Oh, wait… they say “starting team”

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.11.09 13:50:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Chili seems to be feeling the heat at the Bulls. Gary Botha’s back and Maku breathing down his neck.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.11.09 13:50:36 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : tee-hee :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.11.09 13:54:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : you guys know I’m a big fan. I’d love to have him at the Sharks, but it ain’t going to help his career any to sit on the bench behind Bismarck at Super 14 level too. He should go to the Lions because they don’t have a hooker.

    Bis, Chilli, Tiaan, Adriaan and Gary would then be the five starting hookers. Pretty reasonable reflection of the talent.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.11.09 13:56:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • What’s with this loophole business? :evil:

    If he really wants to go, surely there should be a process in place where he can go to his employer making his desire to leave known.

    Then the Lions (or whoever wants him) can make the Bulls an offer. Pay a transfer fee. What’s the problem? :roll:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.11.09 13:58:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Perfect. :smile:

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.11.09 14:00:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : exactly. Why does it need to be so petty and cloak’n'daggery?

    dude, you going to the Boks-Sarries game?

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.11.09 14:07:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • What I want to know is why Kuun is moving back to loosie. He’s been so good at hooker, whats the point? All the effort thats gone in to make the move and now undoing it.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.11.09 14:11:09 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Negotiations are at an advanced stage. :cool:

    I assume you will be going?

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.11.09 14:12:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • no wait it should be presume.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.11.09 14:16:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • What the hell’s the difference between assume & presume?

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.11.09 14:17:25 by McLovin Reply

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  • Same thing according to the free online dictionary. :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.11.09 14:18:10 by McLovin Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 9) : cos he isn’t really that strong in the tight and the Bulls feel they lack a genuine 6.

    Everyone has midget fever since Brussow came to prominence.

    @McLovin (Comment 12) : bloody good question, actually… and yes, I’m going. Would be nice to meet

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.11.09 14:21:16 by robdylan Reply
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    Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t’was his intent
    To blow up the King and Parli’ment.
    Three-score barrels of powder below
    To prove old England’s overthrow;
    By God’s providence he was catch’d
    With a dark lantern and burning match.
    Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
    Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.11.09 14:24:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : I’ll do my best. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.11.09 14:27:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • I despise Kuun!! :|

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.11.09 14:33:33 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : Not much of a fan myself. :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.11.09 14:44:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) : academic :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.11.09 14:45:50 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 19) : No need for name calling. :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.11.09 14:51:13 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 18) : don’t know him. KAK hooker, though

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.11.09 14:57:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : +1

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.11.09 15:00:09 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • How’s he going to displace any of Stegmann, Potgieter or Spies? Even Vote-4-Pedrie would be ahead of him.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.11.09 19:06:05 by MerckZ Reply

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  • @MerckZ (Comment 23) : I think they’ve promised him the number 6 jersey. Word is they don’t consider Stegmann a real 6…

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.11.09 00:25:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • HELLLLOOOOOO!!!?????? Anyone OUT THERE?????? :|

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.11.09 09:21:13 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) :

    You know him? Why you say that?

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.11.09 09:22:44 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 25) : The interwbz must be broken – no comments for 8 hours

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.11.09 09:23:22 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 27) :

    I’ve been waiting and waiting …then thought I’ll make a comment to see if I can attract the bees to the can! :lol:

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.11.09 09:30:19 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • Oh thank goodness there is life out there! Was starting to feel lonely! Good on you Ice I also was coming back to see if there were any new posts, but didn’t have the guts to post first

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.11.09 09:37:44 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I think it was War1 that started this drought, when he told Rob to go back to work :evil:

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.11.09 09:38:25 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • AAAAAAAAnnnnndddd…he’s gone again…

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.11.09 09:40:17 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 30) :

    We need to sort him out!

    I just HAD to tell someone how jealous and disspaointed I am. My husband bought my SIX YEAR old daughter the Big Ball trading card set… :| (He said if she does not want it, I can have it… :mrgreen: )

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.11.09 09:45:29 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 32) :

    And I nearly had heart failure when I saw she has BRUSSOUW..!! :grin: And Jean Deysel, and Ruan, Sharkie ans some others with red, blue and orange colours on.. ;-)

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.11.09 09:48:54 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 33) :

    We were nearlay late for school and work respectively, coz we were so opgewonde.. :lol: I said to her she must not let that file go out from underneath her eyes, coz I a sure some jealous boy will steel Brussouw! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.11.09 09:51:36 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 33) : Hehe, my middle boy got it for his birthday, and the little one, who copies the other one, bought himself one with his pocket money. I have as much fun as they do with these cards. I am becoming a card sharp! I tell them which cards to trade for which player. Needless to say, they have next to no Bulls players but their Sharks team is nearly completed :cool:

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.11.09 09:54:11 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 34) : Becareful, they start getting expensive, everytime we go to the mall, its please can we have cards. Still haven’t managed to find John Smit! My Callum (the baby) has also got Brussow, and Malcolm is trying everything in his power to get it off him :roll:

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.11.09 09:56:33 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • morning cardies :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.11.09 09:57:50 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 35) :

    :oops: :oops: Never thought at my very young age, I’ll get excited about collectors cards…LOL – I am starting to feel moer and more like “one of the boys’…boys and there Toys.. :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.11.09 09:59:08 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 37) : Good morning Rekinek!

    Goodness today its all the ladies, the men I think are still sleeping.

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.11.09 10:00:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 36) :

    I see you can buy most of them on bid or buy, but that takes the fun out of it…

    @rekinek (Comment 37) :

    Morning Sunshine!

    Now would you ever??? Three ladies keeping a rugby blog alive!! :twisted:

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.11.09 10:01:20 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 38) : :lol: What can you say Ice, its good to be an all rounder!

    And at least we can, can you imagine a guy had to start collecting Hanna Montana cards :shock:

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.11.09 10:02:44 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 41) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.11.09 10:03:39 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 40) : Agreed, I can’t wait to pick the boys up to see which players they have traded for :) Both boys have Bismarck – I made sure of that!

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.11.09 10:04:22 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 40) : only in Africa ;-)

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.11.09 10:05:50 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 44) :

    hehehehehe

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.11.09 10:08:40 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 43) :

    Mila has 2 Danie Rossouw’s…I woud lnot mind getting rid of both!! :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.11.09 10:10:48 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • true it’s been a bit quiet recently.
    but not many newsto keep us busy :sad:

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.11.09 10:11:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 46) : Explain to her that he is just a bulls player that a black and white player is worth more ;-)

    It works with Callum, Malcolm got too wise, knows all my tricks :???:

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.11.09 10:12:52 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • yo… I am not in a good way this morning :(

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.11.09 10:12:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : hopefully it will get better as the day progresses – it’s friday after all :razz:

    what’s the story with these cards, are you supposed to collect all the players?

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.11.09 10:19:47 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 50) : yes its a folder, and you have to collect cards to complete each of the 5 S14 Franchises i.e: Sharks, Cheetahs, Lions, WP and Bulls. The packs of cards come with 6 cards, and the children trade their duplicates for players they need. Its real fun.

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.11.09 10:25:18 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : Hope it gets better!

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.11.09 10:25:56 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Good morning all

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.11.09 10:29:39 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 51) : i guess only a matter of time when springboks and currie cup teams will appear, are you ladies making provisions in your budget ;-)

    done a lot of this things when a kid – but I don’t think I ever completed any :oops:

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.11.09 10:29:42 by rekinek Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 53) : more more

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.11.09 10:30:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 50) : I think you’re supposed to spend a lot of money trying :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.11.09 10:31:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Howdy ladies!!! ;-)

    Oh and hi to you too Robbo!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.11.09 10:32:33 by wpw Reply
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  • Hey guys…

    How about a fixture thing for the EOYT – with RSA kick off times? Thanks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.11.09 10:35:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • Sharksworld Poll.
    Score predictions for tonight.

    Springbok XV 38
    Tigers 18

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.11.09 10:39:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 58) : Tonights game only kicks of at 21:30…

  • Comment 60, posted at 06.11.09 10:40:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Hi to all the unfairer sex that has decided to join us!

    Robs – hope its not serious!

    Do you guys remember the Car cards, you also traded them and even played games to win some cards, eg. which kids car has the highest Torque – if you beat them you can get there card or something..

    @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    i can see that coming already!

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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    What was that site again?

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.11.09 10:43:47 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 54) : You are right, there is a new set of cards and folder coming out in December with I believe 10 teams. Besides with all these transfers, many players will have to be exchanged eg: Habana in his hoops, ALberts and Ludick in Black and WHite, Chavanga in red and Skipper in the white and Orange ;)

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.11.09 10:47:35 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 60) : bit late isn’t it.

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.11.09 10:49:01 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 63) : surely they give away a free Skipper card with each pack? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.11.09 10:51:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 64) : Way past us old peoples bedtime :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.11.09 10:51:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 66) :

    It’s Friday!!

    OR…go to bed and set your alarm!! :lol:

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.11.09 10:55:15 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 64) : I know I battle to keep my eyes open till that late! But I’ll fight valiantly!

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.11.09 10:59:14 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 64) : Sheeesssssssh brew. Better than those old get up a four in the morning test down in NZ

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.11.09 10:59:30 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 66) : you said it :mrgreen:
    i was thinking who’ll wait so long to start friday celebrations ;-)

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.11.09 11:00:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : No, but there is a skipper in each pack ;) he seems to be the joker in the pack :lol:

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 69) :

    :mrgreen:

    Bru Reks… :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.11.09 11:01:04 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • well, it could be later, as far as I’m concerned. Got my daughter’s school fireworks display tonight. Hope I’m home in time.

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 71) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.11.09 11:03:31 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 73) : PVR?

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.11.09 11:04:50 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 72) : see, and i don’t even need cards :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.11.09 11:05:43 by rekinek Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 61) :

    Those cards are still around hey!!

    I bought my son a set or two a few years ago… He hates them cos I always beat him!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.11.09 11:10:45 by wpw Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 76) :

    What can we say…One of the boys! :razz:

  • Comment 78, posted at 06.11.09 11:10:54 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 75) : ain’t got one… YET

  • Comment 79, posted at 06.11.09 11:12:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : Eish…

  • Comment 80, posted at 06.11.09 11:17:57 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : they used to have this …. uhmm what they are called VHS? :mrgreen:

    @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 78) : the cases of both are also known :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 06.11.09 11:19:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 77) : aren’t u supposed to let kids win :twisted:

  • Comment 82, posted at 06.11.09 11:20:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 81) : Eish VHS – that is old school….now wonder you need to be in bed before 9 :oops:

  • Comment 83, posted at 06.11.09 11:22:05 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 77) :

    Serious?

    @rekinek (Comment 82) :
    :lol:

  • Comment 84, posted at 06.11.09 11:22:20 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 83) : what shhhhhh:evil:

    just trying to help Rob here :mrgreen:

  • Comment 85, posted at 06.11.09 11:24:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 83) :

    Remember the Beta machines…?? Even before VHS…when we had a video store, if someone came to hire a BETA machine, you new exactlt what they were going to watch! :lol:

  • Comment 86, posted at 06.11.09 11:25:37 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 86) : :twisted:

  • Comment 87, posted at 06.11.09 11:31:23 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 70) : It’s not the start time that is the problem….it’s the time it ends thats the real problem…@Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 69) : When you have a 3 year old that is up at 4:30 in the morning that actually sounds like a better idea ;-)

  • Comment 88, posted at 06.11.09 11:33:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 88) : :lol: Fair point. I actually remember sitting up the whole night to watch an All Black Bok test, and when the broadcast started Dan Retief came on with a sheepish grin and they had got the daylight savings wrong – and there was still an hour to go before kick off…… :grin:

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.11.09 11:35:38 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 89) : Ouch and then you properly drunk by the time the game starts and you pass out at half time. :lol:

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.11.09 11:38:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 90) : Yea i think it was standard fair we were getting thumped and promptly fell asleep just into the second half…woke up on the couch with a moerse hangover and crocked back :lol:

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.11.09 11:40:55 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Rob and others on Keo they are arguing on our front row, this Bulls supporter has come up with quite an innovative idea (I know innovative and Bulls supporter in same sentence, but bare with me) which sounds quite workable, I’ll post it here, what do you guys think?
    “There is another option for the Sharks that to you might at first seem ridiculous, but the more you think about it it will grow on you, especially now that Alberts will vie for a loosie spot as well.

    Seeing as Beast was converted from 8 to 1, why not convert Deysel from 7 to 3.

    He is as strong as an ox, he is good on the ground (tight loose), he is a nice length, tall but not too tall, so he can scrum in underneath his opponent like Kobus says on “…dis die vaste vyf” add. Put another 20 kgs on him and he’ll be a monster TH in the Carl Hayman mold.

    As Jean matures, he will find himself increasingly having to fight his weight, which if not controlled will make him even slower than he is already, which is probably his only downside as a 7 flanker. Yes, he carries well at times, but too often the opposition stick three okes on him or tackle him from behind because he just lacks that bit of acceleration. So, to try and compensate for that he tries to force his way forward, often going that one yard too far and turning over the ball in the process.

    As a TH he doesn’t need to carry long. He can go to ground where he is tackled, protect and recycl;e the ball and bobs your uncle.

    Now that is a switch that can work for the young man.

    Imagine this pack in a year or two’s time (after Smittie):

    Beast/Bissie/Deysel
    Mostert/Sykes (Hargreaves)
    Alberts Brussow (Rhodes/Daniel/Botes)
    Kankowski

    As a Bulls supporter I start crapping myself just thinking of it already

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.11.09 11:42:36 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 92) : Going to take some time to process…..

  • Comment 93, posted at 06.11.09 11:53:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 93) : :grin: it took me a while too, but I really think it could work.

  • Comment 94, posted at 06.11.09 11:59:02 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 92) :

    You know what…that might not be a bad option…

    Deysel as he rightfully says is being targeted in everygame – so he cannot break like he used to..

  • Comment 95, posted at 06.11.09 12:00:31 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 95) :

    I’d love to here Rob’s taking on this and Morne’s!

  • Comment 96, posted at 06.11.09 12:03:06 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 94) : How tall is Deysel compared to other tightheads….normally tightheads are shorter so they can scrum underneath the opposition loosehead. He might be able to do loosehead, but unlikely to work as a tighthead.

  • Comment 97, posted at 06.11.09 12:06:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 96) : Agreed, to me its a pheasable idea, that is why I posted it to get our Rugby gurus ideas. Morne is on Keo arguing on the merits of smaller unions and CC. Lengthy passages, so may only get here later I would imagine ;-) but maybe Rob when he gets a minute to peek in? Pokkel, Try time, Baldrick any one?

  • Comment 98, posted at 06.11.09 12:11:45 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 84) :

    Try ‘Toys R Us’ ;-)

  • Comment 99, posted at 06.11.09 12:16:11 by wpw Reply
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  • Okai here goes I have done the measurements of props from all 4 provincial teams (except WP they haven’t put any profiles on their site)
    Deysel = 1.91m

    Jannie: 1.88m
    John : 1.88m
    Deon : 1.83m
    Patric: 1.86m
    Dale : 1.83m
    Herbst: 1.80m
    Calldo: 1.92m
    Wian DP:1.85m
    WP Nel: 1.82m
    Coonie: 1.85m
    Heinke: 1.81m
    Sephaka: 1.78m
    Werner: 1.90m
    Gurtho: 1.86m
    Engels: 1.86m

    So yeah looks like Jean is a little on the tall side for a prop.

  • Comment 100, posted at 06.11.09 12:28:41 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 100) : Sorry this was aimed at Pokkel

  • Comment 101, posted at 06.11.09 12:29:48 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 98) :

    Okay!!

    @wpw (Comment 99) :

    :oops: :lol:

  • Comment 102, posted at 06.11.09 12:32:54 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 100) :

    Does 5 cm really make such a difference to HEIGHT…i know length i does.. :twisted: but height??? :roll: :?:

  • Comment 103, posted at 06.11.09 12:35:25 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 100) : Did you enjoy measuring the big boys???? :lol:

    Maybe a bit tall, but hell I was a scrumhalf what the hell would I know??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 104, posted at 06.11.09 12:37:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 103) : Well that what I am asking myself as well, but it looks like all the good props are 1.88 and shorter :???:

  • Comment 105, posted at 06.11.09 12:38:10 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 105) :

    Well players get bigger in all positions…why not at prop too…need to keep up with the rest of the team!

    @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 98) :

    Which thread?

  • Comment 106, posted at 06.11.09 12:49:05 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 106) : “confusion at the Kavaliers”

  • Comment 107, posted at 06.11.09 12:53:03 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • this doesn’t make a lot of sense… Deysel is a superb loose forward, why not leave him there?

  • Comment 108, posted at 06.11.09 14:20:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 108) :

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • Comment 109, posted at 06.11.09 14:24:36 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • Your tournament performance

    You predicted 59 out of a possible 59 games in the tournament. Of these, you got the game winner right in 49 games for an overall accuracy in picking winners of 83.05%. The community average was 74.61%.

    You ranked 590 out of 39,653 players on the global leaderboard. Here’s how you did in your pool(s):

    (1) In the pool Sharksworld you finished 6th out of 64 players
    (2) In the pool currie cup 2009 you finished 1st out of 12 players – nice work!
    (3) In the pool Ice World you finished 2nd out of 18 players – nice work!

    Check THAT out!! :lol:

  • Comment 110, posted at 06.11.09 14:26:40 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 109) : what?

    @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 110) : Your tournament performance

    You predicted 59 out of a possible 59 games in the tournament. Of these, you got the game winner right in 47 games for an overall accuracy in picking winners of 79.66%. The community average was 74.61%.

    You ranked 1,737 out of 39,653 players on the global leaderboard. Here’s how you did in your pool(s):

    (1) In the pool Pool 237 you finished 1st out of 21 players – nice work!
    (2) In the pool Sharksworld you finished 11th out of 64 players

  • Comment 111, posted at 06.11.09 14:32:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 111) :

    Knew you would have sumth to say on that idea, thats all!

    I reckon my performance was not too shabby I even beat the Guru himself! ;-)

  • Comment 112, posted at 06.11.09 14:37:33 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 112) : you did really well!

  • Comment 113, posted at 06.11.09 14:44:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 108) : Just to get the blog to wake up :)

  • Comment 114, posted at 06.11.09 15:00:45 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 110) :
    since we’re bragging :mrgreen:

    i’m gonna gloat till xmas

    You predicted 57 out of a possible 59 games in the tournament. Of these, you got the game winner right in 48 games for an overall accuracy in picking winners of 84.21%. The community average was 74.61%.

    You ranked 232 :razz: out of 39,653 players on the global leaderboard. Here’s how you did in your pool(s):

    (1) In the pool Sharksworld you finished 4th out of 64 players

  • Comment 115, posted at 06.11.09 15:03:53 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 108) : that would be too simple ;-)

  • Comment 116, posted at 06.11.09 15:04:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 115) :

    WELL DONE!!! :grin:

  • Comment 117, posted at 06.11.09 15:15:45 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 117) : my best result ever :smile:

  • Comment 118, posted at 06.11.09 15:20:47 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 118) :

    Same (I mean for the pool size) I am bit dissapointed that I was lying 2nd for a while and ended up 6th..but NEXT time! :grin:

  • Comment 119, posted at 06.11.09 15:23:15 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • ok, but seriously, Wolla has struggled a little with injury this year (I blame that on his high workload) but has otherwise been great. The only reason he’s a marked man is because everybody has worked out that he is the Sharks’ only ball-carrier, so they target him. Put him in a pack with a few more ball-carrying options (and one that isn’t getting stuffed at every breakdown) and you won’t see him being stopped as often.

  • Comment 120, posted at 06.11.09 15:28:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 119) : i was 1st for 1 week :mrgreen: and then just dropped to 10th only to make late surge for 4 – so overall quite chuffed.

  • Comment 121, posted at 06.11.09 15:29:59 by rekinek Reply
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  • can we have tonight’s game thread – i know it’s early but we can start speculate

  • Comment 122, posted at 06.11.09 15:37:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 122) :

    Cherio Everyone!!

    Go Lab-Boks!! :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 123, posted at 06.11.09 15:53:28 by GI Ice (Bulletproof) Reply
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  • @GI Ice (Bulletproof) (Comment 123) : :mrgreen:
    cheerio
    enjoy the game (if u manage to keep your eyes open :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 124, posted at 06.11.09 16:00:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 122) : I’ll get to it now

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