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Carlos Spencer joins the Pride


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :In the news, Lions, Super 14 on 7 Jan 2010 at 08:13

Former All Black Carlos Spencer is reported to have joined the Lions in one of the biggest contracts ever signed in South African rugby.

It is believed that Spencer will earn bigger money than Juan Martin Hernandez at the Sharks. The Argentine flyhalf will still be available for the Sharks in this year’s Super14 and is set to join French club side Racing Metro before the Currie Cup.

Spencer, 34, is viewed as a replacement for the Lions’ Springbok flyhalf Andre Pretorius. Pretorius will play for the Force in Perth this year.

The New Zealand gamebreaker is expected in South Africa within the next 10 days. However, a problem with his work permit may delay his arrival.

Bloemfontein-based sports agent Stephan Weyers confirmed to Sport24 that Spencer had signed for the Lions.

He did not want to confirm rumours that it is the most expensive contract to date in South Africa.

Weyers said that Spencer had been released from his contract with English club side Gloucester and he may feature in the warm-up game against the Bulls at Polokwane on 30 January.

“Carlos will also be a skills coach for the Lions in this year’s Currie Cup,” said Weyers.

Spencer’s experience can prove invaluable for Dick Muir’s Lions, who will be without experienced players such as Jaque Fourie (centre, to the Stormers) and Louis Ludik (fullback, to the Sharks).

Spencer represented the All Blacks in 44 Tests between 1997 and 2004. He scored 291 points in 35 Tests.

He made his All Black debut in 1994 as a 20-year-old in a match against Languedoc-Roussillon before playing his first Test against Argentina in 1997.

Spencer has been one of the Blues’ stars before joining the Northampton Saints in 2005.

He scored 608 points for the Blues in Super rugby between 1996 and 2005.

Meanwhile, the Lions will have to wait until at least 21 January before knowing whether they will be able to consider JP Joubert as Spencer’s halfback partner.

Joubert’s dispute with the Free State Cheetahs has gone to arbitration.

Source: www.news24.com



56 Comments

  • I Reckon the Welpies are gonna be a team to reckon with this year…not because of Carlos, but more so because of Dick and him getting the management right…

    Morning all – see you;s later, need to do some work!

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.01.10 08:20:04 by One-eyed Ice (Sailing the seas of 2010 with the Sharks) Reply
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  • Not sure if he was even first choice at Northampton the last season or so.

    Hopefully he comes good for the Lions.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.01.10 08:22:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • I had no idea of this being in the pipeline….seeing that the Sharks have not even announved the squad, perhaps there is a few surprises waiting for us too? Like, say…Dan Carter?? :grin:

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.01.10 08:28:03 by One-eyed Ice (Sailing the seas of 2010 with the Sharks) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : he was benching for an underperforming gloucester team, dont know if this is good for the lions

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.01.10 08:28:45 by war1 Reply
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  • LOL Another “marguee player” a la Naka le Woekie. :lol: Smacks of desperation this.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.01.10 08:31:23 by klempie Reply

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  • New Lions Burton Francis, Marius Delport, Tonderai Chavhanga, Jonathan Mokuena, George Earle and Hanyani Shimange all trained on Wednesday.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.01.10 08:32:25 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : Before he moved to Gloucester that is. Pretty sure he’s not always 1st choice there as well.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.01.10 08:32:30 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : I see we’re back to hot lips. ;)

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.01.10 08:33:26 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 5) : “marquee” :oops:

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.01.10 08:34:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 4) : Yip that’s right. Agree, not convinced this is money well spent.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.01.10 08:36:38 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 8) : Want a kiss? :twisted:

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.01.10 08:37:17 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 11) : Between you and Morras, I am all hot under the collar… ;)

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.01.10 08:38:18 by klempie Reply

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  • @One-eyed Ice (Sailing the seas of 2010 with the Sharks) (Comment 3) : the crusaders have announced their squad, which includes dan carter, so . . . no!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.01.10 08:52:33 by war1 Reply
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  • Reading between the lines of the above article…
    1. the Sharks flyhalf crisis is over and
    2. the Lions still seeem to be contracting players as technical advisers.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.01.10 09:11:43 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 14) : or the mainstream media is not yet aware of the seriousness of Juan’s injury

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.01.10 09:14:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 14) : they never learn :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.01.10 09:18:36 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :
    Damn journalists!!!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.01.10 09:19:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Well I think this is fantastic news for the Lions.

    Sure King Carlos might not be in the kind of shape he was in for the Blues anymore, but what have the Lions got to lose here?
    He`ll bring composure and experience to a lions backline that desperately needs it.

    Plus the fact that they actually have a scrumhalf who`ll pass the ball to him in stead of the situation at the Sharks where the scrumhalf just tries to nullify the flyhalf . . .

    Dick Muir will be able to do something with the Lions. My early prediction : Maybe tenth position?

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.01.10 09:36:03 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 18) :

    Which scrumhalf??

    According to reports JP Joubert’s case has gone to arbitration and will only be finalised on 21 January. :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.01.10 09:46:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 17) : Funny. I was just conveying the same feeling in the “Backing Monty” thread. :smile:

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.01.10 09:51:20 by klempie Reply

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  • So much rugby talk, WIN! :!:

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.01.10 10:09:14 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 18) : Ha ha! You used “Carlos Spencer” and “composure” in the same sentence :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.01.10 10:20:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 21) : yes, it’s like the nightmare of the last few days never really happened. Thank you, Lions!

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.01.10 10:20:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : I prefer King Carlos to Ruan any day of the week and twice on a Sunday!

    @wpw (Comment 19) : I was thinking Vermaak. As I recall he was unlucky not to make the Bok squad end of last year.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.01.10 10:51:23 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 24) : Ummmm…you prefer King Carlos to Ruan any day of the week and twice on a Sunday to do what exactly? :???:

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.01.10 11:05:22 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 25) : Carlos is more outgoing. More fun at a braai. Ruan just sits in a corner

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.01.10 11:14:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Gotcha. I thought there were more sordid reason.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.01.10 11:28:10 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 27) :

    Nope – that would be my reason too… :lol:

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.01.10 11:30:22 by One-eyed Ice (Sailing the seas of 2010 with the Sharks) Reply
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  • o! my ! goush ! :shock:
    let me say no more here

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.01.10 12:27:17 by rekinek Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 20) : :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.01.10 12:31:02 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 19) : Chris Jonck, or have you forgotten his Man of the Match performance agains WP in the CC, which the lions won against all the odds? I’m told that Alex Kock looks very good, and he might even give Jano a run for his money after gaining a bit more experience.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.01.10 12:22:16 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 31) :

    The match you guys celebrated as if you had just won the CC??? :roll:

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.01.10 12:26:45 by wpw Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 25) : What else do you do on a Sunday . . . . watch repeats of course!

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.01.10 12:30:36 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 32) : Yep, that one, hehehe! You must remember we weren’t that used to winning in laste year’s CC

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.01.10 12:35:16 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 31) : oh yeah – he was our 9th choice. Good buy

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.01.10 12:52:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : Maybe so, but the sharks might just regret not giving him a chance. I haven’t seen him play yet, but one of the lions players told me he really looks good.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.01.10 14:27:17 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 36) : you have gay players at the Lions? :)

    Ok, I’m only teasing you. Yes, I heard Kock was actually quite highly rated at the Sharks. Was actually 5th in line, but given that the guys ahead of him were Pienaar, Kokcott, McLeod and Cronje, that’s not bad going. Moving was probably the best course for him. I hope he does well in Joburg

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.01.10 14:44:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : I totally agree. In his case moving was in his best interest.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.01.10 15:01:59 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 38) : it’s such a balancing-act for any union. You simply cant keep 4 quality players contracted in each position. sooner or later the 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice is going to want to leave for more game time.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.01.10 15:05:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @boepie (Comment 38) :

    Boepie

    What ever happened to Allister Siegelaar?? He was training with the Lions at one stage… seems to me he didn’t impress??? :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.01.10 15:05:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 40) : He played a couple of games for the vodacom cup team, but after watching one game, I couldn’t understand how the union could pay money to get him. He was like a school 3rd team scrumhalf, maybe even worse.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.01.10 15:13:14 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 41) : so he was about as good as Ricky Januarie? :)

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.01.10 15:14:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) :

    I refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. i refuse to take the bait. :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.01.10 15:17:02 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : Worse, more like the poor man’s Bolla! LOL!

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.01.10 15:20:35 by boepie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 43) : you keep telling yourself that.

    BTW, chatted to Nick Koster on Facebook. Says he’s concentrating on his studies this year and will play rugby as and when he has time.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.01.10 15:21:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @boepie (Comment 44) : oh nice… good one! What is it about Weepee and producing overrated scrumhalves? Remember when they tried to convince us that Paul Delport was the next big thing? Or what about Neil de Kock, possibly the most overrated Bok since Robbie Fleck and Werner Greeff?

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.01.10 15:23:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : Another great talent, that’s been wasted by wp.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.01.10 15:23:46 by boepie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) :

    Wow. That is interesting!! :shock:

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.01.10 15:25:51 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) :

    read an article the other day where it was said he was close to recovery and ready to play.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.01.10 15:47:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Isnt Alex Kock still contracted to the Sharks but on loan to the Lions?

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.01.10 16:06:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : that’s what you call “a lie” :)

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.01.10 16:20:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 50) : I don’t know, to be honest. May I ask where you heard that?

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.01.10 16:20:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) :

    It was an article listing him and De Waal and another player maybe two who are about to start full training again after injury. can’t find it now. :sad:

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.01.10 16:36:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 50) :

    @robdylan (Comment 52) :

    WHO is Alex Kock?

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.01.10 16:37:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 54) : young scrummie who was with us, now with the Lions

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.01.10 16:50:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : ja – I wrote it :)

    he’s listed as one of the currently injured guys who will soon be fit again. But not going to be going full-out this year

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