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Plum applies for Canes job


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 17 Jan 2010 at 10:50
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A report from New Zealand has reliably linked John Plumtree to the vacant Hurricanes head coach position for next year’s Super 15. Current Canes coach Colin Cooper will step down at the end of the 2010 season.

Applications for the job have to be in by 26 January and the New Zealand Rugby Union are understood to have approached several high-profile Kiwi coaches abroad, including Plumtree and Clermont’s Vern Cotter. Both have applied for the position, along with several others including Peter Russell (Hawke’s Bay), Jamie Joseph (Wellington), Dave Rennie (Manawatu) and former All Black Mark Hammet.

It’s no secret that Plumtree yearns to return to Wellington, where he coached the NPC side for 5 years, before heading to Durban in 2006. Should he get the job, Chris Boyd would apparently be his assistant. Russell is apparently no highly-regarded in the region, while Rennie and Joseph, as local coaches, both appear well-positioned. Cotter’s success in the Top 14 will count in his favour, bot of the candidates, Plumtree is the only one with Super Rugby head coaching experience and I’d be very surprised if that doesn’t swing the vote in his favour.

A lot will depend on the Sharks’ early-season form in this years’ competition, as the selection committee will no doubt take that into account when making their decision. It remains to be seen, though, whether this development serves to derail the campaign.



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  • oh – and remember that war1 called this some time ago:

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2009/12/03/plum-to-coach-canes/

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.01.10 10:54:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : yeah, but i doubt my prediction of sean everitt taking over will happen, well, here’s hoping he wins the vodacom cup then

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.01.10 12:45:12 by war1 Reply
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  • Sean Everitt will be a good S14 coach IMO but lets first see him coach th CC side.

    If he starts this year it may just work out okay.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.01.10 16:58:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • this was always on the cards. i remember when plum first started, there was talk of him wanting a head coach job in new zealand. this explains the re-introduction of reece-edwards. well lets see if he can actually turn the sharks around in his final year. after his cock ups last year it is the least he can do.

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.01.10 07:33:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 4) : afraid I’m battling to see the Reece-Edwards appointment as anything other than a complete disaster

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.01.10 09:29:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : yeah it seems common knowledge that plum wanted to head back. that definitely explains the appearance of hugh reece on the scene. sharks were obviously aware that plum was going for the job. it also looks then that plum must be first in line for the canes job, that he already is being replaced by the sharks.

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.01.10 09:33:02 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : we all thought the same about frans ludeke when he started at the bulls. i wouldn’t say eddie is the best choice, but we aren’t spoilt for choice in south africa. heinecke wouldn’t have been a bad choice though seeing that he is sitting around doing nothing at the moment.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.01.10 09:36:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 7) : Heinecke is back at the Bulls isn’t he?? Director of Rugby or something like that

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.01.10 09:53:14 by Pokkel (Rugby's over, back to fishing) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Rugby’s over, back to fishing) (Comment 8) : yeah thats right. well then it is reece then. hopefully he has what it takes.

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.01.10 09:56:11 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 7) : Isn`t Heineke involved with the bulls at the moment?

    This move can be positive or a complete disaster.

    Chances are we`ll get a quality international coach who`ll turn the sharks around again.

    Unfortunately the way it looks now, we won`t go the international route which means Hugh will take over and we all know where we ended up with him as coach LOL.

    There`s another factor to consider as well. Now that the players know it`s their last season with Plum, will they play 100% to give him a good send off, or will they hold back a bit and ” hang in there ” for the next coach?

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.01.10 09:59:08 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 9) : It can’t be Reece…please not :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.01.10 10:05:56 by Pokkel (Rugby's over, back to fishing) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Rugby’s over, back to fishing) (Comment 11) : Loffie after Boland goes bankrupt mid way through the season ???? LOL

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.01.10 10:12:17 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 10) : you could also ask yourself will all sa players give a hundred percent this year with world cup next year? do they want to risk injury? although rather get injured this year than next.

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.01.10 10:13:49 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 13) : True, but I think the ” fringe” players should give 100% otherwise they just won`t be considered so will miss out anyway.

    Read in Sunday papers Snorre will ask the coaches to rest the bokke again for the CC this year.

    Good news for us! As I recall everything went pear shaped for us when they came back!

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.01.10 10:19:15 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • This is no real big secret, but the timing of all this sucks.

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.01.10 11:11:45 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 15) : telling me! This could derail everything. Hope he addresses the squad this morning and lays his cards on the table

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.01.10 11:15:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) :

    Yeah I think no one will have a problem if Plum tells everyone this is his last season – in fact, it might spark something.

    But courting the Canes for a job while he has a massive job at hand at the Sharks, with no real successor being groomed is a recipe for disaster.

    You guys need to start chatting to Jake or Mallet.

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.01.10 11:18:25 by Morné Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 14) : yeah. the boks come back stuffed and they let the team down. i am all for it. it is also good to get our fringe players up to scratch. for example monty. the sharks wouldn’t be in such bad shape if monty had been given the whole currie cup to hone his skills.

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.01.10 11:21:04 by try time Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 17) :

    Or Chester :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.01.10 11:53:21 by wpw Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : don’t see any top coach fitting in with Oom Staaldrad, I’m afraid.

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.01.10 11:53:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : it could be worse, we could have him as our coach

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.01.10 11:57:52 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 21) : bite your tongue and spit. He might have to take over halfway through the CC sseason

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.01.10 11:58:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : “might have to” power has that allure

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.01.10 12:03:47 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 23) : exactly. Strools still sees himself as the saviour of Sharks rugby, despite all evidence to the contrary :(

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.01.10 12:18:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ill take him as Sharks coach.

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.01.10 12:24:06 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : who, Strools?

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.01.10 12:27:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : :shock:

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.01.10 12:38:34 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.01.10 12:41:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : @war1 (Comment 27) :
    Yep, well if you want to revert back to a previous coach, as in Reece, then you may as well look at one that brought success with him when he coached the Sharks and that is Strools.

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.01.10 12:45:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 29) : i think sean everitt needs to be involved somehow

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.01.10 12:46:09 by war1 Reply
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  • both strools and reeces man-management skills worry, as do plums to be honest

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.01.10 12:47:01 by war1 Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 29) : fair enough.

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.01.10 13:12:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 31) : and fair enough to you as well… what everitt may lack in terms of experience, he makes up for in the great relationships he has with players.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.01.10 13:13:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • To be honest I dont know whether any of the above are up to it or not.
    Rudi was very successful as Sharks coach, Reece wasnt and as for Everitt I dont really know except for what I saw from the U21′s – which was impressive but that was on a totally different level.

    Anyway suggesting Rudi for any coaching position is sure to get the heart rate up a bit.

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.01.10 13:39:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 34) : the Bok experience seems to have changed him forever. You simply cannot have a head coach with that much paranoia about the media.

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.01.10 13:47:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : rassie? maybe thats why he was moved “upstairs”

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.01.10 13:53:20 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 36) : yeah, funny how quickly it can develop. To be honest, I think some of these guys end up getting bad advice from those they trut… Adriaan Heyns (000) and Frikkie Erasmus…

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.01.10 13:55:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : yeah reading smitties book, the difference between 2003 and 2007 in terms of paranoia was HUGE

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.01.10 14:04:32 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 38) : yup. You can tell from the way the Sharks setup operates viz a viz the media, Strools has not changed his approach at all.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.01.10 14:12:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • according to an arti in Beeld, Plum has negotiated another 2 years with the Sharks and will only be resting the CC to further his coaching skills. Then Ludik and Alberts still hasnt been released from their Lions contracts :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.01.10 08:22:50 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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