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Another flyhalf linked to the Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 19 Jan 2010 at 13:37
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While John Plumtree has admitted that the Sharks are in the advanced stages of negotiation with Steve Meyer of Perpignan, Sharksworld has learned that Saracens (and former Chiefs) pivot Glen Jackson is also being looked at.

Jackson, unlike Meyer, has the benefit of Super Rugby experience, but like Carlos Spencer is also 34 years old and has been in Europe for five seasons. While the Sharks are apparently looking at Meyer as a long-term acquisition, if Jackson were to come, it would be nothing other than a stopgap option for the Super 14.

We’ll keep you posted as this story develops.



48 Comments

  • mmmmm I would`ve prefered King Carlos.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.01.10 13:41:23 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • This dude can kick, and thats about all, may fit into plum’s gameplan! has he had super 14 experience or just super 12? experience

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.01.10 14:08:14 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 2) : you’re a bit of a pedant, you know that? :mrgreen:

    Let me go change the article.

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.01.10 14:11:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • This is pissing me off, why dont they just forget about the bloody foreigners and develope our own players. Give Monty the jersey, if he doesnt cope try Pienaar, if he doesnt manage, Cronje and after that Lambie or whoever else. Ive never even heard of Jackson or even Meyer for that matter. How are the guys going to get experience if they dont even get a shot?? :evil: :evil: :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.01.10 14:35:41 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 4) : with you

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.01.10 14:39:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : man, i’d rather have Matfield or Watson as a flyhalf instead of someone I dont even know :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.01.10 14:44:39 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 6) : careful what you wish for

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.01.10 14:47:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : thats not wishing, thats desperation :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.01.10 14:52:37 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 6) :

    both of which have ample experience at flyhalf. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.01.10 15:01:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : was waiting for that :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.01.10 15:07:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • Jackson wasn’t that bad.

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.01.10 15:08:31 by boepie Reply

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  • @boepie (Comment 11) : I remember him as being solid, rather than spectacular. He’s been very good for Sarries of late, though.

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.01.10 15:10:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ja, for a “stopgap”, he’s actually quite OK. His experience might come in handy, as well.

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.01.10 15:15:08 by boepie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : he he, yeah, sorry was just trying to emphasise how old he is,

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.01.10 15:23:16 by war1 Reply
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  • @boepie (Comment 13) : as long as he’s used to mentor the other guys… maybe have him on the bench in case things go pear.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.01.10 15:23:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • The only way i can see this working is if he plays off the bench and acts almost purely as back-up, while playing a mentor role to younger players but i honestly dont think it is worth it,

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.01.10 15:26:19 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : great minds hey

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.01.10 15:27:21 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : er dude, things are going pear. We’re considering 34-year old ex-new zealanders playing in England… :sad:

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.01.10 15:27:41 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 17) : indeed :)

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.01.10 15:32:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 18) : fair point

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.01.10 15:40:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • Why dont we play Pienaar, as far as I remember he and our backline looked pretty good for the first handful of games we played until he got injured. If he gets a run of most of the Super14, im telling you he’ll be devastating. GIVE THE OAK A CHANCE!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.01.10 15:40:58 by Tintin Reply

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  • Sharks now throwing money at over-the-hill foreigners?

    Smacks of desperation where none is needed.

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.01.10 15:42:16 by Morné Reply
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  • The thing to keep in mind is that the Chiefs only came close to the title after Jackson left . . .

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.01.10 15:43:00 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Tintin (Comment 21) : But he`s injured if I`m not mistaken. Lionel Cronje from wp is up for grabs as well I think . . .

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.01.10 15:44:22 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Fair enough, play Monty then, he looked pretty good in the CC, he’s got a bit of confidence about him and play Pienaar then he gets back to 100%. Looking at this year for the boks, I would rather have Pienaar play the last 8 Super14 matches and then give a run for the boks. Steyn is not going to drive the Boks forward as a team this year, we need go forward ball this year, not moer en soek

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.01.10 15:50:35 by Tintin Reply

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  • guys, I’ve heard Ruan doesn’t want to play 10

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.01.10 15:52:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : well if he wants to play Springbok rugby, thats where he is going to have to play, forget the solo appearances he had last year mid way through, those games in the begining of the S14 he really started to look good, confidence is funny thing, I bet you if he is playing well at flyhalf he’ll love the position. He’s hard work but I think he’s worth it

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.01.10 15:56:18 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 27) : I agree, he’ll be a great flyhalf after 10 games of playing in that position.

    @robdylan (Comment 26) : Who cares what he wants ;-)

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.01.10 16:04:16 by Pokkel (Rugby's over, back to fishing) Reply
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  • I see no logic in a stop-gap solution.

    a) The money used in contracting such a player is much better used investing in youngsters locally for many reasons

    b) There is absolutely no return on investment

    c) Stop-gap players have a negative effect on the development of promising youngsters where it firstly lengthens the time they actually take to develop and secondly limits actual game time they get, which often leads to unions losing them.

    I mean, the Sharks lost this Meyer chap probably because of the above mentioned principles in the first place, now they want to buy him back???

    And now they are possibly going to do the same thing with Monty (who was well on his way to the Cheetahs before crisis hit) and the other very promising youngster?

    These guys in administration might think they know something about rugby having played the game before, but from where I sit they know f-all about management of resources.

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.01.10 16:15:28 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 29) : you’re right. We need to back what we’ve got. I think, though, if it wasn’t for Guy also being injured and Ruan being unwilling, we probably wouldn’t be quite as panicked.

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.01.10 16:54:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 18) :

    Now we can’t laugh at the Lions anymore. :sad: :wink:

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.01.10 17:27:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 31) : we’ll have to look for another reason

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.01.10 17:34:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) :

    Gee THAT will be difficult. :razz:

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.01.10 17:47:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • :shock: :oops: I don’t believe it for a minute.

    Agterspeler?

    Dit gons in gay-kringe oor kiekies waarop iemand wat op ’n druppel water lyk soos die Bok-heelagter, Frans Steyn, ’n jong bruinkop-moffie dik vry.

    Gerrie Swart, Frans se bestuurder en prokureur, het gesê dis onbenullig. “As Frans gay is – wat maak dit saak. Ons lewe in die 21ste eeu, maar dit sal seker reperkussies in die rugbykringe veroorsaak.”

    Hy het egter ontken dat hulle enigiets van die foto’s weet en wil dit eers sien voordat hulle dit sal glo. “Frans het ’n meisie wat gereeld in Parys (Frankryk) vir hom gaan kuier, maar ek sal ook nie weet wat in ander mense se lewens aangaan nie.”

    Gerrie het gister gesê dat hy met ’n paar van Frans se spanmaats gesels het en dat “ons feite het wat ons sal openbaar as dit nodig is. Ek wil ’n saak opbou.”

    Hy was vas oortuig dat iemand besig is met ’n vieslike smeerveldtog. “Ons wil egter in die stadium nie kommentaar lewer nie.”

    Sondag het van die foto’s verneem en met twee afsonderlike bronne gesels wat dit al onder oë gehad het. Hulle gedetailleerde vertellings oor die sappige foto’s wat met ’n selfoon geneem is, stem merkwaardig ooreen.

    Die meisie, wat die foto’s geneem het en op haar selfoon stoor, wou nie met Sondag daaroor praat nie en het die foon in ons oor neergesit.

    Die meisie se huismaat is gay en dit is daar waar die mannetjie en die sexy Bok se look alike so lekker gevry het.

    Op een van die foto’s kan ’n mens sien hoe die twee mannetjies mekaar se tonge beter leer ken. Op nog ’n foto is hulle lekker cozy saam in die bed.

    Die vryers het glo gesê dat hulle nie eers gaan omgee as die foto’s in die openbaar uitkom nie.

    Moffieskinderbekke sê ’n fris ou het ook glo gereeld kaal bolyf foto’s van homself aan die bruinkop gestuur.

    Die meisie – Sondag weet wat haar naam is – het gedurende die Desembervakansie saam met ’n paar vriende in die Kaap gekuier.

    “Toe sy dronk was, het sy vir almal die foto’s gewys en gesê dat sy dit vir die media wil gee. Dit lyk nes Frans op die foto’s,” het ’n baie betroubare bron verklap.

    “Ek dink sy is nou baie bang. Haar beste gay-vriend is betrokke en ek dink nie sy wil hom uitverkoop nie.”

    Maar Frans – wat sedert April verlede jaar vir die Franse klubrugbyspan Racing Metro speel, is gereeld in gay-klubs in die Kaap gesien. “Ek is nie verbaas om te hoor van die foto’s nie. Ek het al dikwels vir Frans in die klubs en kroeë gesien. Ek weet van nog Springbokke wat so ’n dubbele lewe lei. Shame.” het ’n bekende in die Kaapse gay-kringe gesê.

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.01.10 18:36:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : whoops :)

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.01.10 18:41:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • BIG Whoops.

    I like their headline though. :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.01.10 18:44:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : Sondag?? Ons weet dan dis net ‘n klomp stront. :roll:

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.01.10 19:30:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) :

    Some men prefer men. Okes have to learn to deal with it.
    There are many, many more gay rugby players than we think.

    In my opinion – big bloody deal.

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.01.10 20:28:54 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • I honestly dont think Jackson is up for s15 rugby… and I’m a Sarries fan.

    He’s just too slow and not really physical at all.
    As for his kicking – yeah he’ll slot it inside the 22 but not much further out.

    Really, really dont think he’s the man for the job… he’d maybe work at the Bulls where they play similar rugby to Sarries but the Sharks (and no insult intended) play too unstructured rugby to suit him.

    And did I mention he’s 34 and so, sooooo slow?

    What is it with Durbs and foreign flyhalves?
    How many have there been over the years? A half dozen frenchmen, a Scot, even an Argentinian!

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.01.10 20:31:42 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • If this dude is gay then you can just imagine for yourself how difficult it is for these guys to admit it… and how much more common it is than you think.

    a

    Empirical studies have estimate 4% of the population to be gay… you do the maths.

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.01.10 20:32:52 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Play Ruan Pienaar @ 10 finish en klaar :wink:

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.01.10 22:15:08 by Charlie Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 39) :

    Tony Brown (New Zealander)
    David Knox (Aussie)

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.01.10 07:06:28 by wpw Reply
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  • I have to say that half of the arguments here are total crap. How many homegrown flyhalves are there?

    Didn’t Morne Steyn and Ruan Pienaar play together? even if not, Morne was playing fullback for the Bulls, behind Liefling, who hails from the Cape.

    Peter Grant? Hails from KZN. Herkie Kruger and Earl Rose, hail outside Lions territory.

    People are forgetting that Butch had no real equal when he was here, so Meyer got very limited opportunities.

    Likewise 20 flyhalves who slipped through the nets because Honiball was the incumbent.

    People are saying develop your own talent, but how many duds do you have to go through? Quality flyhalves are not falling off trees, it’s probably the least talented area of the game and thus the hardest to fulfil in a high profile tournament like the S14.

    You can’t just say play Pienaar when he’s had an op. Or Cronje who’s injured. Or Len Olivier never got his opportunities, even though he’s not local and never even shone at VC level.

    We need to stick with Monty right now and back him.

    Finally, remember this is the professional era. Live with it.

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.01.10 14:51:10 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 43) : I’m inclined to agree with you :grin:

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.01.10 15:02:56 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 43) : that is what i have been saying all along, so don’t shout at me. :smile: monty must be given a chance. in a way i am pleased the sharks have a flyhalf dilemma because i felt monty got handed a raw deal last year and deserves to be given the opportunity to prove his ability.

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.01.10 15:08:03 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 45) : Me2!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.01.10 15:14:02 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 43) : i can’t decide whether you’re going to love my new article, or hate it :)

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.01.10 15:21:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 46) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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