Morné

Closure on the Alberts issue at hand


Written by Morné Nortier (Morné)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 26 Jan 2010 at 13:15

Expect Willem Alberts to run out in a Sharks jersey tonight.

Recent reports suggested that Manie Reynecke and the Lions management would not hesitate to go the legal rout in preventing Alberts (and Ludik once fit) to run out for the Sharks.

It has been learnt though that the Lions, also part of some player bickering with the Cheetahs rugby union over JP Joubert, has in fact won their case against their former Cats partners.

Where this might be positive news for the Lions franchise since their primary scrumhalf is struggling with an injury, it might also just have paved the way for Alberts to run out for the Sharks tonight without fear of consequence to the union or himself.

Opinions currently suggests that the grounds on which the Lions won their case, is exactly the grounds in which the Sharks are claiming that they can legally play Alberts.

Christo Ferreira, legal advisor to SA Rugby on policies might now just be forced to intervene on this issue if the Lions decide to go the legal route once Alberts runs out for the Sharks.  If this is the case, the Lions seemingly have little grounds to keep the players from playing for their new adopted franchise.

There might be some discussions now behind closed doors to solve this amicably without everyone’s dirty laundry being flaunted in public and in the press.

Our opinion:

Expect Alberts to make his debut for the Sharks tonight and expect nothing to come from the threats from the Lions as reported in the media yesterday.

SA Rugby now being forced to intervene might finally put an end to all this where both unions can get their dues and kiss and make up, and we can simply enjoy the rugby.



45 Comments

  • wooooohoooo let it be

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.01.10 13:18:12 by Miguel Reply
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  • Finally!!! :roll:

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.01.10 13:21:40 by wpw Reply
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  • does playing in a warm-up counts as a debut?

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.01.10 13:22:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • nice work, Morras! Let’s hope this is the way it pans out

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.01.10 13:31:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • NEVER FEAR WHEN MORNE IS HERE :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.01.10 13:59:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • good news, it’s aobut the players careers as well, they can at least play now

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.01.10 14:18:30 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 6) : we hope

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.01.10 14:27:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • What puzzles me about all of this:
    1. Stormers want Jaques Fourie, they believe he has an invalid contract, they go to arbitration, and win. Case closed.

    2. Lions want JP Joubert, they believe he has an invalid contract, they go to arbitration, and win. Case closed.

    3. Sharks want Louis Ludik and Willem Alberts, they believe they have invalid contracts, instead of going to arbitration, and sorting it out, they say screw everyone, we will just play them in our team.

    Why? :?: :?:

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.01.10 14:31:07 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 8) : trying to save money. It’s what Rudi does best.

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.01.10 14:34:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think the selection of Alberts forces everyone’s hand. The fact that he’s been with the sharks since november with no arbitration in sight suggests that the Lions were never go to do anything, they just wanted to string the process along for as long as possible and make sure the player never got to play for the sharks.

    They’ve been made to look stupid and having lost three top players, are looking to be a team in trouble where no-one wants to play.

    It’s all childish stuff, the kind of stuff 4 year old kids do in a sandpit.

    If you want to be taken seriously, you don’t go around acting like a child.

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.01.10 14:35:10 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 10) : i also get the feeling that it’s just spitefulness from the lions, although bj van zyl and strools also should have done a bit of negotiating

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.01.10 14:50:23 by war1 Reply
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  • Hopefully this thing with Alberts and Ludik can finally come to an end and the players can continue with their Rugby careers.

    But let wait and see what the Lions say after Alberts runs out in the Black and White jersey.

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.01.10 14:53:02 by Farlington Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 11) : Agreed… I think this whole episode could have been handled better by both unions…pity it did not turn out like that.

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.01.10 14:55:10 by Farlington Reply

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  • I was wondering if Alberts is actually willing to take the chance to play inspite of facing a hefty fine, or is he being forced to play??

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.01.10 14:57:56 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 10) : Baldie… I’m not 100% sure you’ve got that the right way around. Surely it was up to the Sharks to force arbitration? Without a legal ruling that the contracts weren’t valid, the Lions really had no reason to issue release certificates…

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.01.10 14:58:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 12) : welcome to the site!

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.01.10 14:59:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Shame, again the Tin Ears end up on the short end. No wonder they get stuck into the Sharks on the play field.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.01.10 14:59:19 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 13) : I havent seen u around here before, if it your 1st time here, a warm welcome to you then.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.01.10 15:00:05 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 14) : don’t think the player could be fined or anything… repercussions would probably target the union. Biggest risk from his side is being forced to stand down from playing and that would have been likely anyway.

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.01.10 15:00:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 17) : hey – the Sharks had nothing to do with that one :)

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.01.10 15:00:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • and you promise them Du Mont, it aint fair. at all.

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.01.10 15:00:52 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : I’m no lawyer, I just read that he and/or the union could face some huge repercussions if he played :smile:

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.01.10 15:04:09 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 21) : we gave them Skipper AND we let them keep Brussow. They must maar take what they can get :)

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.01.10 15:11:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : Thanks, I was trying to think of a diplomatic way of saying that, without it sounding like sour grapes :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.01.10 15:11:40 by Greg Reply

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  • What time is the game tonight?

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.01.10 15:11:59 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 24) : don’t get me wrong… I still think Reynecke has been a huge d**s about this matter. I just don’t think it’s fair to lay all the blame squarely at his door. The Sharks could have acted with more integrity. Or at least more proactively!

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.01.10 15:13:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 25) : se-ven pee-em

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.01.10 15:14:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 25) : 19:00 :wink:

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.01.10 15:15:51 by Charlie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : Agreed that it should have been pursued, but we really aren’t privvy to all the facts here. I recall the Lions ceo stating “We haven’t had a letter on a letterhead from the Sharks requesting our players”… Now if that isn’t childish I don’t know what is.

    Its the old FU attitude, “if we can’t use the players, nor will you, or we’ll do everything (or nothing) to make sure you don’t…”

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.01.10 15:17:11 by Baldrick Reply

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  • Thanks for the welcome guys.

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.01.10 15:21:46 by Farlington Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Agreed, there is certainly no smell of roses from either Durban or Joburg

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.01.10 15:24:51 by Greg Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 29) : Sharks seem to be employing a similar attitude though, “We are going to use them, and defy anyone to try and stop us”

    I don’t think the players have covered themselves in glory either

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.01.10 15:28:11 by Greg Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 29) : yeah, their attitude has been up to shit, no doubt.

    @Farlington (Comment 30) : hope you’ll be very happy here. We’re good people :)

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.01.10 15:30:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ag liontjies its 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other, get over it and focus on the rugby, clearly what the Sharks are trying to do

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.01.10 15:37:35 by Miguel Reply
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  • What about closure on Hernandez ?? Heard conflicting stories , first he was injured then he went AWOL ???

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.01.10 15:38:18 by kingdeysel Reply
     
  • @kingdeysel (Comment 35) : howzit – welcome to the site. Love your nick.

    No, I think Juan is injured. But whatever the case, he’s gone now and it’s time to look to the future.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.01.10 15:44:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @kingdeysel (Comment 35) : im sure his whereabouts are known to muliple people, has a major back injury that needs to be sorted out

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.01.10 15:44:08 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • Thanks Rob
    Agreed , just that him and Ruan seemed to be gelling nicely towards the later stages and even he and Charl where looking to spread the ball and take the gaps to get the backline moving! Hopefully Monty can replicate his form when he outplayed the bulls !!

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.01.10 16:19:37 by kingdeysel Reply
     
  • @kingdeysel (Comment 38) : Charl and Monty are our form halfback combo… reputations count for nothing

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.01.10 16:32:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • What time is tonight’s game. I am about to leave the house. :cry:

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.01.10 16:53:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : 7pm SA

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.01.10 17:05:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • No one with the score?

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.01.10 19:26:19 by RugbyGal Reply

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  • @RugbyGal (Comment 42) : it’s 0-12 to the crims… follow the match thread here: http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2010/01/26/super-14-warm-up-sharks-v-western-force/

  • Comment 43, posted at 26.01.10 19:29:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • sharks are 19-0 down

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.01.10 19:42:19 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Seems Manie was busy this morning…

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