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Let’s just all settle down for a bit


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sevens, Super 14 on 27 Jan 2010 at 12:52
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My name’s Rob and I’m a Sharks supporter. I’m disappointed as hell today, but it’s not like I’m not going still be a Sharks supporter tomorrow, or every other day for the rest of my life…

Right, had to get that off my chest. Let’s talk about the game last night. Not easy to really give any perspective, since I didn’t see it, but from what I’ve heard, it wasn’t a great performance. Certainly, the scoreboard would suggest that the Sharks got pumped. Four tries to nil is pretty damning, isn’t it?

Sounds like we weren’t particularly good at doing anything last night – hell, even the jerseys were ugly. But Charlie pointed out something interesting. We’re still in exactly the same spot on the Super 14 log, aren’t we? Nobody got injured and we didn’t give away any of our best moves (assuming we have any). That’s already three things to feel positive about. I guess what I’m trying to say is that it’s pretty counter-productive getting all morose and depressed because we lost a warm-up game. The Sharks clearly approached this one as a glorified bit of full-contact practice and Plum even said beforehand that he wasn’t too concerned about what the score would be.

The Bulls lost all their warm-up games last year. Hell, some idiot on this site even wrote an article about how they would tank in the Super 14 as a result. Not 4 months later, Vic Matfield was holding the trophy and that nameless writer was having his intelligence questioned all over the internet!

So does this mean that I’m not at all concerned about our prospects for the season? Do I think the loss last night was a good thing? Am I convinced that all is right in the land of the Sharks? No, no and hell no. I am worried and I certainly don’t like the way the guys (seemingly – remember I didn’t watch the match) didn’t do the jersey any justice last night. I know there are problems in the squad and in the management structure. I’m also not daft enough to think that the poor gameplan that cost us last year has now been shelved because, by all accounts, we made the same mistakes last night. Don’t get me wrong here, guys – I have not suddenly revised my thinking on where the Sharks will finish. That doesn’t mean, though, that I’m not still incredibly hopeful that we’ll sneak the semis and that I won’t be giving every single guy in that team my full backing, all the way.

Spare a thought for the players, too. They’re not stupid and they’re not all that thick-skinned either. They know they let themselves down last night and they’re feeling pretty low about it. They failed as a team and we should acknowledge that and apportion blame fairly. Getting the knives out for poor bloody Monty Dumond isn’t going to accomplish anything and is quite simply unfair. Show me a flyhalf that can shine when the rest of the team is getting hammered. There isn’t one in the modern game and I’ll call you a liar if you say there is!

The forwards will come right – we know this. We have too much talent in that pack to be pushed around by the likes of the Force a second time. It was the first game and we came into it with some niggles and lots of rust. We KNOW what guys like Beast, Wolla, Smittie and Sykesie are capable of in the tight loose, not to mention the new guys like Mostert and Vic Alberts. I expect a much better showing up-front against the Stormers and I think we may just be surprised to see how much better the backline looks as a result.

Mental coaching remains an issue and I won’t stop banging on about this point until the management sees sense and brings in a specialist. I fear that Tim Goodenough may be lost forever to the Lions, but if the Sharks brainstrust can see sense, they’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse, to rejoin the team that he loves. Talent is one thing, conditioning and fitness another, but if you haven’t won the game in your head before you run onto the field, whatever happens in the next 80 minutes is completely beyond your control.

So let’s keep the faith and try not to get too carried away just yet. It doesn’t say very much about us as supporters if we give up before the bloody competition has even started, now does it? We have a great squad and they’ll do their best for us. We have the best captain in the world and he is aching to get his hands on the one trophy that’s eluded him to date. It’s pretty clear what we have to do. Get behind the black and white, because nothing else matters!



123 Comments

  • Seems like 365 thinks the Sharks were pretty kak. :sad:

    Thank heavens for James O’Connor, the Australian wonderboy. He was the bright star on a drab night. In fact thank heavens for the Western Force, for they played all the rugby.

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.01.10 13:06:16 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Rekinek : My name is Rekinek. I am a Shark Supporter.

    Chorus: Good Morning Rekinek.

    Rekinek :I have been clean (not watching the Sharks game) for 101 days
    ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.01.10 13:06:37 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : It waaaaaas pretty boring.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.01.10 13:10:07 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • I agree with you rob, this could mean the side come out stronger and show their character in the face of adversity

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.01.10 13:20:02 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 4) : well, we are where we are and need to move forward from here

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.01.10 13:21:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • on a serious note.

    I also do not thonk there is reason to panick. and I also did not see last night game – so cannot comment on how the players looked liked.

    However, if the individual players and as a collective did not look good perhaps it is a cause for worry.

    It is a difficult balance with this friendlies. on one hand you do not want to get injured and give out too much on the other hand i would imagine players striving to simply play well (and from comments it was not the case last night).

    I agree with Rob on a mental coach. Looks like necessity. Sharks (contrary to their name) do not seem to have this killer instinct, they do not seem to be motivated against allegedly weaker teams and how often did they close the shop too early.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.01.10 13:26:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • No one mentioned Lambie ? Did he get a run and if so , how did he look and where did he play ??

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.01.10 13:30:52 by kingdeysel Reply
     
  • @rekinek (Comment 2) : :lol:

    True what you say there Rob. The one thing you mention is the fact that the players should have won the game in their heads before they take to the field. Now I suppose that it is real easy for players to slip into that negative mind set and once there it is very difficult to change that. I’ve seen teams take the field where they don’t look convinced that they can win and more often then not they don’t. Now we all now that The Sharks has the talent to take it all the way and the only problem is that mind shift into belief. To manage the mind set of the players is very tricky as there is a thin line between Self belief and over confident. Let’s hope we can get someone that can manage that to perfection.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.01.10 13:31:18 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 8) :
    Man my eyes are shot, before I zoomed in on your avatar I saw it as Moses standing on a ridge with his arms outstretched. :shock:

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.01.10 13:42:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @kingdeysel (Comment 7) : came on at 15, I believe. Sounds like he had little impact.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.01.10 13:43:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : and was moved to flyhalf later in the game, but not sure whether he was big improvement on monty.

    various articles seem to suggest that rory was trying to do sth.

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.01.10 13:47:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • btw, as Clayite pointed out, once the Force realised we weren’t going to kick penalties, it sounds like they started infringing with impunity.

    Perhaps if we’d started lining up shots at goal, the result may ahve been somewhat different.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.01.10 13:48:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’m disappointed as hell today

    Sheesh how you gonna feel after get rolled by the stormers then Robert? ;-)

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.01.10 13:58:48 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : :lol: No nothing as religious as that… or is it :?:

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.01.10 14:00:13 by Farlington Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : if that is our super 14 gameplan, we will suffer, but i doubt that, plum said it’s not about the result

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.01.10 14:01:41 by war1 Reply
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  • So are you guys gonna panic after we thrash you on Friday??? :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.01.10 14:02:18 by wpw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 13) : :cool: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.01.10 14:05:59 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 16) :

    Hehehe… great minds and all that Wes…

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.01.10 14:07:46 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Dunno if its been discussed here but apparently the Aussie franchises have been instructed to play running, ‘attractive’ rugby, supposedly to entice their fans back.

    They’re gonna be ripe for the picking if thats the case – wonder if fans will watching ‘attractive’, but losing, rugby…

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.01.10 14:09:00 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 19) : who would issue such instruction ?

    Must say last 2 years most successful of the lot were boring Tahs

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.01.10 14:10:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 16) : Sadly I am starting to think that it will be Stormers and Bulls “representing” this year. I guess I will have to supporter the Stormers (cringe) if push comes to shove. Why oh WHY did JMH go and get himself injured?? :evil: :cry:

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.01.10 14:11:23 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : ja ja… kick a man when he’s down. That applies to you too, Vincenzo :)

    The wheel will turn, boys. And we’ll remember.

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.01.10 14:12:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 21) : things may have been worse if he did, monty will do a great job, but the pack must win the ball first!

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.01.10 14:13:59 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 23) : Kak man! :roll:

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.01.10 14:15:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 24) : jmh was never happy in durban nuff said

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.01.10 14:19:40 by war1 Reply
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  • people seriously this match was to look at players and combo’s ffs

    last year the lions whipped the bulls in pre season friendly ,need i remind some who holds the super 14 trophy?? well and currie cup

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.01.10 14:20:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 26) : although i dont think underperforming in a warm up game is a guarantee of success

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.01.10 14:22:42 by war1 Reply
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  • The problem with the mindset thing is that it isn’t easy to put right and it also doesn’t bode well when the coach comments that a poor performance wasn’t unexpected. WHAT???

    A Sharks backline without any creativity isn’t new. We’re used to that, because our game plan is built around feeding off the errors created by defensive pressure; not brilliant set moves. It’s a strategy that worked for us (and the Boks) last year, having done well up front.

    However, if your scrum is walked backwards by a stock standard Aussie outfit and you can only find your jumpers 20% of the time then the coaching staff should invest in a few hours of headwork, that’s for sure.

    And maybe a few hours on the couch for the Ones-in-Charge wouldn’t be a bad thing either.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.01.10 14:24:44 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 27) : I love scientists :)

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.01.10 14:27:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 28) : welcome to the site! I like you already.

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.01.10 14:28:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.01.10 14:30:05 by war1 Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 28) : welcome!

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.01.10 14:30:42 by war1 Reply
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  • Thanks, gents! Nice to be here. I haven’t bothered posting anywhere since the official Sharks forum closed and can’t get myself to jump into the Keo cesspool.

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.01.10 14:35:41 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) :

    Dude, we’re just messing wiff you!!! ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.01.10 14:37:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 28) :

    “and it also doesn’t bode well when the coach comments that a poor performance wasn’t unexpected”

    that sounds rather scary but on the other hand how often coaches say sth of substance in post game interviews.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.01.10 14:39:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 26) :

    I noticed that phrase has become a cliche of late. :roll:

    Do we have the Bulls team sheets for those matches??

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.01.10 14:40:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 33) : we do things a little differently here… actually, a LOT differently. We don’t talk politics and we don’t get into silly flame wars, although klempie and I have a bit of a go at each other fro time to time :)

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.01.10 14:41:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 34) : yeah yeah. I know you’re still a BIG Sharks supporter deep down, Wes.

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.01.10 14:42:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Watch him jump ship halfway through the tournament. :razz:

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.01.10 14:44:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 36) : well seems ur lovin the bulls go google it :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.01.10 14:48:04 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 35) : Yip, you need to be a spin doctor and coach simultaneously these days. PDV is an example of how a coach can get just half of that combo right – which half is a matter for conjecture, of course.

    I suppose you’re damned if you say things are looking OK and damned if you dont, hey?

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.01.10 14:50:01 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : he he :)

    Bulls were at close to full strength, if my memory serves

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.01.10 14:50:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 36) : team sheets are not important here – the stress is on warm-ups are nothing to go by.

    for that matter sharks won all their warm up games last year, same lions I think.

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.01.10 14:51:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • it’s seem like robdylan is the chief dispenser of prozac in this asylum of sharks supporters…well the chiefs are waiting when you sharks are done faffing about aimlessly! :-)

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.01.10 14:52:26 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : yup :lol:

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.01.10 14:53:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 44) : not to worry Chief Rob has plenty of stock :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.01.10 14:54:59 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 41) : we need to be careful here… since none of us was actually at that presser (CLAYTIE???)

    Going on the way Keo chose to report it is always dangerous.

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.01.10 14:58:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    Please tell him who’s the REAL boss around here!! :| :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.01.10 14:58:42 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 44) : Megatron, Megatron… bit of a stirrer :)

    Related to Optimus Prime, by any chance?

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.01.10 14:59:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) :

    Was that before or after Spies took his ‘shots’ :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.01.10 15:01:47 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : Yup. I kicked his ass again just last week. That’s me. Good ‘ol Prime. Big as a Mac truck. :cool:

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.01.10 15:02:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 51) : I’ve just worked it out. Megatron is a much nicer name than the one he previously had anyway.

    @wpw (Comment 50) : I don’t believe that any more.

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.01.10 15:08:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : is there an Optimus Prime on this site? I want my All Spark!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.01.10 15:09:03 by Megatron Reply

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  • I am not sure that you guys should read anything into these games, the Damp squids always do well in pre-season and then head for mid table year after year.

    So gird your loins loins and keep it real – the faith will be repaid.

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.01.10 15:11:23 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 44) : isnt it stormers first?? :shock:

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.01.10 15:11:29 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : duh! You’re the admin nazi guy…you can go check my details out!

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.01.10 15:11:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : Could his previous name been “quota” perhaps? :???:

  • Comment 57, posted at 27.01.10 15:13:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 56) : That is not too far off the mark actually. The words “jackboot” and “oppression” have been used in association with Rob in the past. :|

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.01.10 15:15:02 by klempie Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 56) : I did.
    @klempie (Comment 57) : is that your final answer? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.01.10 15:17:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 58) : I implore you, don’t go down this path.

    BTW, have you seen Ice recently?

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.01.10 15:18:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 56) :

    You just gave yourself away ‘Optimus’ :roll:

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.01.10 15:20:28 by wpw Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 55) : they apparently don’t count :mrgreen:
    i bet you even if we loose to stormers on Friday we will still be at the top of the log :mrgreen:

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.01.10 15:26:09 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :
    But the previous one was at least a “truthfull” name.

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  • @wpw (Comment 61) : i’m not ‘Optimus’…

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.01.10 15:26:52 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : Nope. Don’t really speak anymore.

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 63) : where do you get off? You don’t want none of this, Celluloid…

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.01.10 15:28:25 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 64) : Are you “quota”?

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  • @Megatron (Comment 66) : Hmmm….A very quota-like toy-throwing. Curiouser and curiouser

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  • who is this quota guy you okes are on about?

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.01.10 15:33:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 66) :
    By the way, welcome, I think Im gonna like what you are going to dish up.

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : He’s a sad little troll who think the Valke are the greatest team to have graced South African rugby. I’m sure you’ll get on swell. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.01.10 15:36:14 by klempie Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : lost valke supporter :lol:

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  • rob, i am surprised you are telling everyone to relax. the worse the sharks play the more hits this site gets. everyone wants to add their two cents (pity they aren’t actually giving you the 2c cos then you could actually focus on the site full time) and rant. so for sharksworld rating, stormers must thrash the sharks on friday. :grin:

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.01.10 15:38:34 by try time Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : He likes giving himself intimidating but fanciful nics which is really an over-compensation for his love of supporting small, bottom of the First Division teams. “East Rand” mentality, if you will.

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.01.10 15:40:40 by klempie Reply

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  • I’m just going to shake my head and whistle

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  • @klempie (Comment 74) : sound like a real chop this quota oke, can’t wait till he logs on…

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.01.10 15:44:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 73) : professional cynic, you are :)

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.01.10 15:44:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 76) : I would never call any of my loyal readers chops.

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.01.10 15:45:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : why are you whistling? Is it like a new sharks thing?

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.01.10 15:46:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) : bad news sells.

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  • @Megatron (Comment 79) : It’s just something most people on this side of the Wors Gordyn are genetically advantaged to do. :cool:

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.01.10 15:47:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 67) :

    You are way to clever.

    Although….
    If it smell like….
    If it tastes like….
    If it looks like….

    Then is must BE…. :razz:

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  • @robdylan (Comment 78) : :lol: :mrgreen:

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 82) : Years of practice sock puppet hunting boet.

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  • @klempie (Comment 81) :
    Would you touch the Proteas with a barge pole, if given the opportunity?

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  • @klempie (Comment 84) : are we hunting for something?

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.01.10 15:53:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 76) : if the sharks loose on Friday he will be here.

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.01.10 15:55:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 86) : glory

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.01.10 15:57:20 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 85) : Dude I am technical support to them. They use my software. LOL

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.01.10 15:59:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 86) : Not anymore…

  • Comment 90, posted at 27.01.10 15:59:53 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 89) : I know that, but I mean coach, select, score etc – you know the hard jobs.

  • Comment 91, posted at 27.01.10 16:04:07 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 89) :

    Ah THAT explains the drop in form then. :lol: Your software doesn’t analyse the batting technique does it? :razz:

  • Comment 92, posted at 27.01.10 16:07:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 91) : :lol: :razz:

  • Comment 93, posted at 27.01.10 16:08:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 91) : Dude I can’t comment in full as that would rely on my interpretation of today’s events which in my opinion were 100% political. In short though, no.

    Why do you ask?

  • Comment 94, posted at 27.01.10 16:08:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 92) : Actually no it doesn’t. LOL They are still using the old system though, which I never designed, only maintained. :cool:

  • Comment 95, posted at 27.01.10 16:09:30 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 94) :
    Because you had Corrie van Zyl in your office the other day. I was wondering if anyone would ever rest easily in the job/s.

    What happened today, I know about the selectors but thats all…..busy.

  • Comment 96, posted at 27.01.10 16:15:46 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 96) : Well basically, everyone’s fired…for reasons that are just completely unqualified.

  • Comment 97, posted at 27.01.10 16:17:25 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 97) :
    I gathered it would come down to that this morning after hearing Proctor on 702.

  • Comment 98, posted at 27.01.10 16:21:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 98) : The reasons given by the CSA board were “non-performance and [insert the usual candidate here]“. They were waiting for a reason to clear out the furniture and they deemed a 1-1 drawn home series against the Poms in which we dominated 80% of the series as failing to meet performance targets. It’s interesting how you never see massive clearouts at SAFA when *their* national team is underperforming (which is always).

  • Comment 99, posted at 27.01.10 16:27:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 98) : The press were claiming “sources inside CSA” were citing a breakdown in the relationship between Arthur and Biff.

    http://www.cricinfo.com/southafrica/content/image/445992.html?page=1

    Does that look like a breakdown in relationship?

  • Comment 100, posted at 27.01.10 16:30:22 by klempie Reply

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  • Who is panicking? The organisors just wants to keep it interesting. Stormers beats Force, Force beats Sharks and Sharks beats Stormers. Whala! Big success :mrgreen:

  • Comment 101, posted at 27.01.10 16:31:03 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 101) :

    Sort of like the “Rock, Paper, Scissors” of the Rugby World. :smile:

  • Comment 102, posted at 27.01.10 16:37:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 101) : So Sharks by between 25 and 30? ;)

  • Comment 103, posted at 27.01.10 16:46:38 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 103) : I had a look at the Stormers team and we should grease by 50 – 70, easy :razz:

  • Comment 104, posted at 27.01.10 16:52:53 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 104) : Great! :grin:

  • Comment 105, posted at 27.01.10 16:53:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 104) : …grease it by…

  • Comment 106, posted at 27.01.10 16:53:59 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 99) :
    BWAAHAAAAA massive clearouts at SAFA, you are on form today.
    We did beat Swaziland the other day though.

  • Comment 107, posted at 27.01.10 17:01:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Gotta run, cheers all.

  • Comment 108, posted at 27.01.10 17:03:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 104) : You`re confident. What do you know that I`m missing here?

  • Comment 109, posted at 27.01.10 17:04:41 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 109) : if I tell you, i’ll have to kill you :mrgreen: its a matter of wishfull thinking

  • Comment 110, posted at 27.01.10 17:13:54 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • Klemps and salmonboy
    They were fired becos we won 1 out of our last 6 tests.
    I somehow get the feeling it also has to do with Ntini’s axing and the way it was handled…

  • Comment 111, posted at 27.01.10 18:53:19 by wpw Reply
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  • Back to the original article.

    Rob I agree 110% with you about the importance of the mental game. Also I wasn’t thrilled with Plum’s pre-game admission about being unconcerned about the score.

    Did you read Tim’s book? I’m about 1/2 way through and it has been rather insightful coming from even a non-sport playing point of view.

  • Comment 112, posted at 27.01.10 19:18:58 by Milissa Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 99) : does SAFA also have a selection committee like cricket does, i am not very familiar with roundball.?

  • Comment 113, posted at 27.01.10 19:23:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 111) : In 2008 their stats were Played 15, Won 11, Lost 2. In 2009 their stats were Played 6, Won 1 (against Aus), Lost 4 (3 against Aus and 1 against Eng). Do you really think that a year in which there is only one complete series (and a period of about 8 months of no Test cricket) is a fair sample set? This is the same situation as JW was in in 2006 only CSA have gone one step further than SARU. In my humble opinion, the Proteas’ 2008 was waaaaaaaaay better than the Boks’ 2004. On the whole, Mickey’s and Jake’s careers until this point are strikingly similar.

    Regarding Makh, I do feel for him. I’ve always admired the oke and what he’s accomplished. He’s been awesome for us and has deserved his place on merit. No one would question that. But his form dropped dramatically over the last year and without his pace, he is Polly without the accuracy and variation. England milked him because of it. The selectors had no choice. It is sad because he will probably not be given the hero’s send off he deserves. But neither have a lot of other legends of the game. That’s life. Sometimes you luck out.

    But you are right regarding Makh. His axing has more than just a little to do with it.

    “salmonboy” :lol:

  • Comment 114, posted at 27.01.10 20:11:24 by klempie Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 113) : The “selection committee” is the coach with the input of his assistant and most likely the captain. However, they and SAFA management seem to have an awful lot of rope to work with. It took 8 losses in 9 games with an impending World Cup that they only qualified for as hosts before SAFA dropped the axe on Santana and co. It seems there are different definitions of non-performance for rugby and cricket versus soccer and the amateur sports in this country.

  • Comment 115, posted at 27.01.10 20:26:02 by klempie Reply

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  • Klempie
    We also lost in th T20 semis as well as the ICC Champions trophy not to mention the ODI series we lost at home for the first time in many years…

  • Comment 116, posted at 27.01.10 20:38:13 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 116) : T20?? Well you know what my opinion is on that. It’s a lottery. People have statistically analysed T20 results and they show HIGH variability. I have it on inside authority that the players don’t really take the results too seriously. Sure they try to win, but they don’t cut themselves up when they don’t cos they know the nature of the game. I mean come on, Aus finished LAST in their group not winning a single gme. Did Tim Nielsen get the chop? NO.

    Regarding the Champs Trophy, the CSA board made SA play ALL its group games at Centurion because of a STUPID dispute with Gauteng Cricket resulting in them playing games on a pitch which suited the teams they were playing rather than themselves. And England won the ODI series 2-1 in a 5 match series. Funny that. If anyone should be getting the chop its the CSA board themselves.

    Come on Wes. You’re playing devil’s advocate for the hell of it. :razz:

  • Comment 117, posted at 27.01.10 20:58:16 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 115) : how many games does the national soccer team play in a calendar year?, i am just asking so that i can have an overall picture of how dismal this santana oke was.

  • Comment 118, posted at 27.01.10 21:26:37 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 118) : No idea. Don’t really care. Roundball bores me to tears.

  • Comment 119, posted at 27.01.10 21:34:58 by klempie Reply

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  • @Jarson’s (X + V) (Comment 110) : may not necessarily be such a bad thing :mrgreen:

    RP did not play so I’m interested to know according to OP who caused us the game ;-)

  • Comment 120, posted at 27.01.10 22:09:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 119) : soccer is :cool:

    at least it doesn’t dragg for 5 days :twisted:

  • Comment 121, posted at 27.01.10 22:10:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 121) : Cricket may last 5 days but there is always scoring happening so you can have hundreds of scoring events. Watching a game for 100 minutes that ends up 0-0 at the end is just mind-boggling.

  • Comment 122, posted at 28.01.10 08:45:30 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 119) : agreed :roll:

  • Comment 123, posted at 28.01.10 09:44:08 by Pokkel (can't wait for the S14 to start) Reply
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