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Reyneke: Alberts and Ludik were ‘misled’


Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :In the news, Lions, Sharks on 28 Jan 2010 at 08:16

GOLDEN Lions Rugby Union CEO Manie Reyneke yesterday admitted he empathised with No8 Willem Alberts and fullback Louis Ludik, after lodging an official complaint against them with the South African Rugby Union (Saru) for breach of contract.

Zeena Isaacs reports for The Business Day:

He said the players were misled by rugby administrators, who decided to play unfairly. 

Alberts and Ludik, who are contracted to the Lions until the end of next year , abandoned the union late last year and headed to the Sharks despite failing to secure the necessary clearance certificates from the Lions. 

Their actions were motivated by the drawn-out arbitration case in which Springbok centre Jaque Fourie escaped from his contract a year early due to a technicality relating to his salary. 

Alberts and Ludik’s decision to train with the Sharks infuriated Reyneke, who, despite his anger, shied away from taking action even after the Sharks included Alberts in their squad for warm- up games against the Western Force and Stormers. 

But seeing Alberts in a Sharks jersey in their friendly against the Western Force on Tuesday night — in which the Sharks were thumped 26-0 — was the last straw, prompting Reyneke to lay a complaint against the player and the Sharks for playing him despite being contracted to the Lions. 

Reyneke also lodged a complaint against Ludik for training with the Sharks while under contract to the Lions. 

Saru confirmed that the Lions had laid a complaint for breach of regulations relating to the movement of players and said it referred the matter to its judicial committee chairman, Judge Lex Mpati, who will be responsible for appointing a judicial committee to investigate the matter. 

“I feel sorry for the players because they are being influenced by administrators who are not playing the game fairly,” said Reyneke. “I have said from the outset that no two contracts are the same, so they cannot take it for granted that their contracts are the same as Jaque’s.” 

Reyneke said the value the union attached to contracts motivated their decision to lodge complaints against the players and the Sharks. 

“If you sign a contract you must be willing to see it out,” said Reyneke. “That is why we are taking a stand. It is common practice to try to find loopholes in contracts, but if it states that disputes have to be resolved through arbitration, then it should go through that channel.” 

He also squashed suggestions that trying to force players who had lost their desire to play for the team could backfire, and said he believed Alberts and Ludik were professional enough to give their best on the field if they were forced to return to the Lions. 

Reyneke is confident they have a good case. “We wouldn’t have gone this far if we didn’t believe we had a good case,” he said. “So we are confident we can win.”



22 Comments

  • “I feel sorry for the players because they are being influenced by administrators who are not playing the game fairly,” said Reyneke. “I have said from the outset that no two contracts are the same, so they cannot take it for granted that their contracts are the same as Jaque’s.”

    Well Manie, according to Brian Van Zyl, the contracts ARE exactly the same as Fourie’s contract.

    So who is lying??? :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.01.10 08:22:21 by wpw Reply
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  • Well we will just have to wait and see what happens, I just hope it will be resolved quickly

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.01.10 08:25:19 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • “If you sign a contract you must be willing to see it out,” said Reyneke.

    JP Joubert???

    Tsk tsk Manie. :|

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.01.10 08:28:17 by wpw Reply
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  • Word for word most contracts will basically be the same, only differences will probably be money and duration

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.01.10 08:29:35 by Jarson's (X + V) Reply
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  • If it turns out that the contracts are the same then Reyneke will have some egg on his face. Boy this really is becoming an issue and the Sharks should have gone the arbitration route from day one. This could disrupt the team as they prepare for the S14.

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.01.10 08:46:35 by Farlington Reply

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  • stick to your guns manie!

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.01.10 09:08:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • Look on the bright side of this.

    If our team plays the rest of the season as they did on Tuesday, we can blame the lions for creating distractions in the camp. :razz:

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.01.10 09:13:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 6) :

    Why? Is he gonna shoot himself in the foot again?

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.01.10 09:14:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 5) :
    “It is common practice to try to find loopholes in contracts, but if it states that disputes have to be resolved through arbitration, then it should go through that channel.”

    Agreed – but now who must take it to arbitration, according to that statement it would be between the employer and employee, which, if thats the case, would mean that the Sharks have no say in actually initiating the arbitration.

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.01.10 09:16:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 6) :
    Hi Mega, did you sleep well?

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.01.10 09:17:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : :lol:

    The Lions are crazy to keep players who would rather be elsewhere. Simple.

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.01.10 10:59:02 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 11) : they don’t want to keep them. They just want some money

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.01.10 11:28:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Well fark then pay him so he will stfu

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.01.10 12:19:41 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : Hi Celluloid, Decepticons don’t sleep because sleep is the cousin of death.

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.01.10 13:35:00 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 14) :
    Dont believe that, you need your sleep, sleep deprivation can make you do and say funny things ……true.

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.01.10 13:43:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • ANYBODY PERHAPS GOING TO RECORD THE MATCH ON DVD, I HAVE A TECHNICAL PROBLEM, AND A COPY WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.01.10 13:50:47 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 16) : i also want one!

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.01.10 14:04:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Where’s Father Christmas when you need him :evil:

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.01.10 14:08:26 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 16) :

    You should ask Claytie. I think he has PVR but then again he will be at the game (and gesuip) :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.01.10 14:20:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 19) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.01.10 14:58:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • Ai Manie….as much of a loss Alberts is and as sorry as I will feel for Alberts not playing in every game (as he is not the first choice No8)…just get new players…they don’t want to play for the LIONS so stop calling mommy!??!

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.01.10 13:47:44 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 16) : i’m sure they will show it to you on monday :mrgreen: during dissection

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.01.10 14:39:46 by rekinek Reply
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