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Sharks give food for thought


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super 14 on 1 Feb 2010 at 05:00
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So the Sharks went down to the Stormers on Friday night, to the tune of 29-14. It was a pretty emphatic result, all right, but forgive me if I don’t descend into the deepest pits of despair just yet.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time reading match reports this weekend and I’m starting to wonder whether the people who wrote them saw the same match that I did. The general consensus seems to be that the Sharks were utterly atrocious and that the Stormers – themselves barely more than adequate on the night – simply had to show up to win by 15 points. The scrums and lineouts were a shambles, they’ll tell you and the Sharks couldn’t get the hang of the new breakdown interpretations. No pace, no penetration and no ideas, was the damning assessment of the Sharks backline.

I say bollocks. Sure, we didn’t win, but given the fact that we played two completely different lineups against an essentially settled, mostly first-choice Stormers combination showing signs of real early-season promise, I really don’t think we did badly at all. The scrums were nowhere near as bad as people will have you believe and in the second half, in particular, we did very well to hold our own despite being down to 14-men for 20 minutes in all. The Stormers had their first-choice front row on and working together for 60 minutes and we mixed and matched and generally stood firm whichever combination happened to be fronting up. Sure, Jannie du Plessis gave away a few penalties for dropping the bind, but perhaps we can cut the big guy some slack, since it was his first competitive game at loosehead? I don’t reckon the Sharks packed down with exactly the same tight five for more than two successive scrums at any stage in the match, so expecting the pack to fire on all cylinders the whole way through is a little unrealistic.

Let me just state, for the record, that the people who claim the Sharks scrum was in reverse the whole match weren’t watching the game. That, to me, just smacks of going in with a preconceived idea and ignoring any evidence to the contrary. I’m not going to pretend that we didn’t look better with Jannie at tighthead than with John Smit there, but I did not see any evidence of Smit being shoved backwards by Wikus Blaauw. If someone else did, I’d love to be shown the video footage, because I don’t believe it exists.

The Sharks pack were great in the first half and pretty good in the second. Weighed up against a near full-strength Stormers 8 coached into a formidable outfit by Matt Proudfoot, I think it was pretty impressive that both of our combinations managed to stand up well. The breakdown was puzzling for both sides and if one thing became crystal clear, it’s that referees are only interested in penalising the defending side in 2010. The Stormers did well to work their way down into the Sharks 22 about 10 minutes into the second half. Once they were there, Craig Joubert’s whistle ensured that they didn’t leave again until shortly before full time. I can’t say I blame John Plumtree for feeling just a little miffed at the way the second half was blown – then again, the Sharks certainly had the better of things in the first half, so there’s obviously a fair bit of soul-searching to be done.

The backs saw precious little good ball in the first half – somewhat ironic given the forwards’ heroics. Rory Kockott wasn’t great as a distributor and Monty Dumond kicked a little too much, while Dries Strauss, while capable on defence, did little to bring those outside him into the game. Pat Lambie was safe as houses at the back (again, don’t believe the match reports out there, because they’ll tell you he looked out of his depth!) but the wingers looked slow and lethargic. Waylon Murray didn’t touch the ball once in 40 minutes, a pretty sure sign that not much was happening for the backs. Charl McLeod and Steve Meyer looked a competent pairing in the second half, though, with the former’s crisp service and the latter’s ability to play right on the gain line sure to be crucial if the Sharks are to rediscover how effective direct rugby can be. The Sharks scored a try early in the second half off a sweeping movement that saw forwards and backs interlinking beautifully – a sure sign that they remain a dangerous outfit when given any sort of space. There’s no doubt that this team has the personnel to play expansive, bonus-point rugby. They just need to rediscover the belief in that sort of game and back themselves to have a go.

The Sharks will be all right in 2010, guys, don’t you worry about that. Considering that we went into this game missing six regular first-choice players and at no stage had what could be called a full-strength combination on the field, we did pretty well to match the high-flying Stormers, at least for the first hour. The Cape side are going to be good this year, but I can’t help wondering if they aren’t playing all their really good rugby just a little too early in the season. There’s not a lot of depth up-front and while the first-choice pack is operating like a well-oiled machine right now, I wonder how good they’d look if one or two first choice players pick up an injury. If there’s one thing we can say about the Sharks, with absolute certainty, it’s that they won’t be peaking too early in 2010! There’s talent aplenty upfront and with guys like Ruan Pienaar and Adi Jacobs yet to make their appearance in the team, we probably shouldn’t read too much into the backline’s flat performances just yet.

There are really two options. We can buy the shit that other sites are writing and accept that our team will be a laughing stock this year, or we can get behind them and back them to do well, knowing that if they can get it right, they have the firepower in the squad to beat most other teams on their day. I know which one I choose.

Black and white, cos nothing else matters.



60 Comments

  • im sorry but rory was way better on the night, mcleod was penalized,missed tackles and kicked that stupid kick that kept us on our line,would have liked steve and rory together, but steve’s line kicks are a little kak, tactical kicking and overall play looked good, liked burden on flank, best part…deysel bumped the crap out of burger

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.02.10 07:34:57 by willa Reply
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  • I’ll reserve judgement untill later….I didn’t enjoy the game one little bit….maybe I was just so hungry for rugby that I expected too much, but if this is going to be the standard of play and refereeing I won’t be watching a lot of the Super 14.

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.02.10 08:34:49 by Pokkel (can't wait for the S14 to start) Reply
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  • I did not read any match reports, only this article for now.

    I was there.

    Firstly, the Sharks I believe had the better of things in the first half, they had most of the ball, but no clue how to use it – this is concerning.

    Secondly, the little that the Stormers had in the first half, they used, scoring a try and a couple of penalties.

    Sharks line-out bossed the Stormers in my opinion, but the opposite was true in the scrums.

    Sharks had a very effective counter ruck in the tackled area and turned more than enough ball over to make it count – unfortunately, they did not.

    The Sharks have serious problems at 10, 12 and 13.

    With the ball, they have no clue.

    Without the ball, simple schoolboy attacking moves had their defensive lines in shambles.

    I found it interesting that Monty covered channel 3 and 4 on defense a lot of the time and not his direct channel – must be said Stormers used the big boys to run these channels so could be understood.

    The Sharks won the physical battle on the night, and just for that I believe you will be there and there about.

    But unless you guys sort out your backline you are going to be in big shit.

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.02.10 08:42:17 by Morné Reply
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  • @Pokkel (can’t wait for the S14 to start) (Comment 2) : maybe a little unrealistic to expect too much from a practice match?

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.02.10 08:42:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • sometimes you read something enough times, or hear it enough times no matter what rubbish it is, you start believing it. The press seem to be convinced that the Sharks are in a downward spiral and that they will struggle with hernandez gone and that the brothers doep are destroying team morale etc etc etc, I think we will be fine,

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.02.10 08:43:31 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : imho a game against a minnow team would help to get the confidence up

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.02.10 08:44:55 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : well, we do have a schoolboy backline coach :-)

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.02.10 08:46:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) :

    Oh and there is nothing wrong with Lambie.

    In fact, having had a look at the two 10′s you have I would have played this kid at 10 without a shadow of a doubt.

    He has a great feel for the game, is immensely mature for this level of rugby and he is definately not scared.

    His awareness is what impressed me most though – he has the ability to read the game and therefore finds himself in the right position a lot of the time – if he is able to base decisions on this and not just anticipate on defense, he will be a very good 10.

    And you guys seriously don’t know what you have in Oupa Stef… That man brought a lot of calm and experience to that backline.

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.02.10 08:46:53 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    Haha,

    Also true.

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.02.10 08:47:28 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : scrums didn’t concern me. We had no continuity in personnel, so hard to establish dominance against a settled stormers first choice. We walked the stormers second choice back at will later in the game

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.02.10 08:50:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • All the penalies (for both sides mind you)was a bit concerning. I just hope the SA times won’t get blown out of the game in this years S14. I’m also not to worried about the result as it was clear that Plum was still very much in a “testing” mind set with combinations. I was surprised with how Lamie handled himself against the bigger boys but I’m still not convinced that he is quite ready for this level. (I hope he proves my wrong).

    The Stormers will be a strong outfit this year and most propably the SA team to beat. The Sharks however will not slump to the bottom of the table but I also don’t think they will top it this year. (Also hoping to be proved wrong on this subject.)

    But all in all I think it will be an exciting S14 and we might just see a few surprises here and there.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.02.10 08:51:52 by Farlington Reply

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  • meyer and Swan could play direct rugby superbly. Shades of Butch and Trev back in 2001. Get Adi in there to run off them and you could see fireworks

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.02.10 08:54:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • hi all, did anyone else see the obstruction on willem alberts with schalks try? and the gap was where willem would have been… and sireli`s try was poor defence on our part. REALLY! Sykes stood still, didnt even make an effort to shift with the defencive line, and stefan also gave it away. other than that i believe we did okey. I must also add that we gave away soft and silly penalties… Jannie and keegan again…

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.02.10 08:56:58 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : and reece is the right guy to coach them, a mac direct rugby “disciple”

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.02.10 08:57:34 by war1 Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 13) : but congrats to the stormers, hope they can keep the momentum…

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.02.10 08:58:03 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 11) : i predict a bottom half finish from the stormers, a good pre-season might not be a good thing for them

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.02.10 08:58:57 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 14) : swan is being made to look shit by flyhalves passing him the ball too far begini the advantage line. Meyer should be able to fix that

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.02.10 08:59:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : was also thinking adi for all those turn overs and counter rucks, he knows what to do with that

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.02.10 09:00:02 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : true and meyer also didnt look scared to tackle,

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.02.10 09:01:56 by willa Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 16) : with their draw, a semi is a must. Anything less will be a disappointment. Worried about their depth up front. Lots of journeymen. But well coached journeymen

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.02.10 09:03:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 18) : yeah, but to me, McLeod’s quicker service is crucial for that

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.02.10 09:04:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • All things said I reckon we will be competetive. Plum has two weeks to sort out the team and we should win our opener, if only because we’ve had the edge over the Chiefs for the past view years.

    We also shouldn’t underestimate the self doubt the NZ’ers will have on their first trip back to the Republic after their horror S14 final. A thrashing like that is hard to forget and it probably won’t be a bad thing if the jingle jockey at Absa Park “accidently” played some Steve Hofmeyr before the game.

    In my opinion our team should be:

    Beast
    Smit
    du Plessis
    Mostert
    Sykes
    Daniel
    Deysel
    Kankowski
    Kockott
    Meyer
    Jacobs
    Murray
    Pietersen
    Vulindlu
    Terblanche

    du Plessis
    Cilliers
    Alberts
    Hargreaves
    McLeod
    Strauss
    Lambie

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.02.10 09:06:26 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 22) : could go with that, but no Muller in the 22? Would go with mvovo ahead of strauss too

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.02.10 09:09:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : the player 23, is it not happening this year?

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.02.10 09:15:12 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Come on Rob, Mvovo ahead of Strauss! Must I now write an article in defense of Dries? ;-)

    I like Muller, but he is not up to standard at the moment and hasn’t been for a few months now. It was also difficult leaving out Burden and Botes, but what can you do?

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.02.10 09:15:25 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 24) : no. Only in the Varsity cup :-)

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.02.10 09:17:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 25) : strauss is not an impact player :-)

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.02.10 09:18:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 25) : i would not leave out burden, he could fill hooker, flank and centre if he has to

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.02.10 09:18:25 by willa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : With the new laws turning the game into a bastardised league spectacle I don’t think impact players will have much of, well an impact, anyway. We’re in for a loose shambles.

    Bring back Ruckby!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.02.10 09:20:50 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 28) : That’s a good point. I wonder if Lambie can play at 10?

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.02.10 09:21:43 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Agree Totally Rob, all those saying the Sharks will lose the first game simply do not know the Sharks and the players well enough. We will win the first game for sure i have no doubt. Main aspect will be the breakdown and looking at some of the things Deysel,keegan and Mostert did on the weekend, i have no doubt we have the ability to bully them off the ball.

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.02.10 09:35:29 by JJR Reply
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  • Maybe the Chiefs will still be demoralized after their crushing lost to the Bulls last year?

    The big worry is of course FS. They`ve got our number, just like wp lately . . .

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.02.10 09:39:48 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 31) : i think gerhard mostert could be the best buy of the season, he is international class, if he stays injury free this season, he will play for the boks

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.02.10 09:39:58 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : Same as last year, they don’t have a decent backline and they did not score tries, and in the end that’s what cost them a spot in the playoffs and I reckon the same thing will happen this year. They just do not have any decent centers, AD is over the hill, and Waylon Murray has been unable to regain any form since his injury. The confidence levels are down in the backline with nobody really knowing whether they will be in the side. I hope it comes right before the S14 start. I would even consider playing Ludick at center that is how little faith I have in the centers at the moment. That is an outsider’s perspective and only my humble opinion. The Sharks need to score tries this year and secure Bonus points.

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.02.10 09:41:54 by Whindy Reply
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  • I still say, GO SHARKS :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.02.10 09:49:41 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 34) : I agree with you on the bonus points issue. We are consistently one of the teams with the least bonus points even though we are are always up there at the top of half the table.

    Lack of bonus points is one of the major factors why we often don’t make the play-offs. The other is that we have allowed crap teams, like the Reds and Cheetahs, to become our bogey sides.

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.02.10 09:59:56 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 36) : Agreed, and ever since Brad Barrit left, the backline has done nothing, AD was a special player, but injury and a slowdown in pace, means he is no longer the player he used to be. The Other guys are bruisers and may be good in defense but they are not going to score tries or even set them up.

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.02.10 10:17:27 by Whindy Reply
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  • WooHoo..what refreshing article! Couldn’t agree more with what was said. I don’t understand the negativity people so easily give into!. Only a team with very limited depth with show their hand so early. Do we really want to give the chiefs inside track?
    I for one have got all my sharks flags, caps, shirts and mouse out to be brandished at any and all opportunities.

    Black and White – all the matters!

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.02.10 10:21:22 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • PS….DEFINITELY missing Brad Barrit and Francois Steyn!…but our lads will pull through.

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.02.10 10:22:14 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 37) : funny how we only appreciate Brad’s true value now that he’s left… he set up a nice try for the Saxons yesterday

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.02.10 10:24:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 38) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.02.10 10:25:15 by Charlie Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 33) : I Agree he is very good, and works hard. He does all the dirty work not to mention that he is not that shabby with taking the ball up either. Everyone will see what he is capable of this season; lets just hope he stays fit all the way through.

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.02.10 11:17:38 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 42) : carrying a bit of a paunch, though? Or does he just wear his shorts high?

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.02.10 11:22:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Sharks gave away about 3/4s of their penalties at the breakdown, the rest were at the scrum and foul play/offsides/player in front of the kicker.

    I think the Stormers gave away about 90% of their penalties at the breakdown (penalties were around 15 apiece = 30 in the game).

    People were slagging off the ref, but he’s just blowing the laws, whichare going to favour the attacking side which we should all be applauding. We like big hits, but we don’t want to see attacking movesd penalised all the time as they have been over the past few seasons.

    It’s simple, the attacking side is given the benefit of the doubt and any attempts to slow the ball down are going to be penalised.

    It’s a matter of getting used to the laws and the refs, and Stormers didn’t. That’s going to be a problem, as it will for fetchers like Schalk, McCaw and Brussouw.

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.02.10 17:17:16 by Baldrick Reply

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  • I did not see the match this weekend, but did follow it on this blog site, but what i did here from 2of the blokes that iwork with, is that it wasnot positive at all, , and 10 , 12 and 13 … huge problems!!!

    I stay in the Boland area , I have seen Jean Stemmet play a lot, they should just give him a shot, can`t be whorse than useless Dries!!!!

    Oh, and what about Frans Steyn playing for the Bulls in the C- Cup 2010? :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.02.10 17:37:49 by morneL Reply

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  • @morneL (Comment 45) : Frans will need to change his attitude a lot before fitting into the Tshwane culture.

    Agree that Stemmet should get a chance.

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.02.10 17:45:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • I heard about Steyn at Newlands

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.02.10 17:58:14 by morneL Reply

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  • @morneL (Comment 47) : Frans Steyn? Highly unlikely.

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.02.10 18:10:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • :shock: That`s all we need. Us suffering with the worst centre depth in recent history and the Bulls runs on with Both Match Winning Steyns in there team . . . eish.

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.02.10 18:32:20 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • just watch this space, I heard this about 3 weeks ago from a source at WP rugby, that Frans S is on his way to BB for the CC of 2010, and also said it can`t be true but last week Monday a guy from Boland said the exact same thing.

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.02.10 19:48:56 by morneL Reply

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  • What are the odds that we cant swop Monty, Dries and J botes for Johan Wessels? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.02.10 19:52:31 by morneL Reply

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  • @morneL (Comment 51) : we coulda had him, but Strooli pulled out of the deal because the new law applications will probably take fetchers out of the game.

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.02.10 20:08:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @morneL (Comment 50) : but Boks won’t play in this year’s Currie Cup, if rumours are to be believed. Not sure why Steyn would want to come back and play in a watered down CC, rather than in France where he’s doing superbly.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.02.10 20:32:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @morneL (Comment 50) :

    My loyalties would be SERIOUSLY torn if Fransie went to the Blou BULLE! Unfortunately, of all the SA teams they do seem to have the best coaching systems.

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.02.10 10:31:24 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=vn20100202102333583C961346&page_number=2

    I see Snor is finally communicating with the media in such a manner that would indicate he has a brain after all!

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.02.10 10:50:37 by klempie Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 54) : even so, Francois needs to get the teamwork thing sorted out first. Not really sure his “superstar” stint in France is going to help much with that one.

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.02.10 12:17:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • Frans Steyn could be going to the Bulls?? :shock: If it’s true it will be a bit disappointing. I suppose Barrit is lost to us forever so we can forget about him. Our only hope is that WP has spent all of their money on Habana and Fourie and won’t be able to secure the services of JdV when he returns :grin: (Yeah I know… It’s a long shot)

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.02.10 12:55:51 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 57) : with Johann Rupert bankrolling them? Afraid there’s no meaningful limit to their funds any more

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.02.10 13:02:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : The Real Madrid of rugby.

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.02.10 13:55:40 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 59) : bunch of overpaid kick-chasers :)

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