The ghost of try time

Here We Go Again (Yawn)


Written by cheers had fun (The ghost of try time)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 15 Feb 2010 at 08:50
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On Saturday I was fuming, how could the referee call that a knock on, the ball was rolling backwards? The Sharks were robbed yet again. But then I went to bed and woke up the following morning without my black and white glasses on, and realised the Sharks were far worse than the referee.

Before I continue on the Sharks, the referee wasn’t squeaky clean during the game and shouldn’t be let off the hook. But all South African teams should know that when playing a foreign team, they are going to get an inferior referee so their game must be 10 points better than the opposition to allow for the call(s) that will turn the game against you. And there definitely was more than one, for instance if you consider the Chiefs were also penalised an unacceptable number of times and not yellow carded.

But I am sick of whining about referees, so lets rather focus on the real villains, the Sharks. Last year I was brutal on my assessment of Johan Muller as a captain, the way he couldn’t rally the troops and his regular outburst at referees never helped the Sharks cause. I need to apologise to him on the former assessment. I don’t think it was his fault he couldn’t rally the troops, but rather the players themselves. Is this a legacy of Dick Muir’s “every man is a leader” policy? Although John Smit was impressive with his diplomacy towards the referee, his team mates had no intention of adjusting their game to appease the anal Keith Brown. Two notables were the Du Plessis brothers. I can hear the outcry at my accusation, “Can’t be the Du Plessis brothers, they are angels.” But I have to disagree with you guys here. Jannie’s and Bis’ refusal to tweak their gameplan to satisfy the referee cost the Sharks dearly. I am starting to lose all respect and support for these two vigilantes, and secretly I’m hoping someone does offer them a contract elsewhere.

Another player that has had too many chances now and has lost all my hope I had in him is Monty Dumond. Some players have ceilings, and they cannot get any better to break through. Monty unfortunately is one such player. The guy has skill, but lets be honest with ourselves, he is unable to lift his game to get it to the level required in Super 14. During the game I gave him the benefit of doubt, because the conditions were dreadful, but when Ruan replaced him the difference was vast. An undercooked Ruan made Monty look average at best. So as much as I like the guy, I have to be honest and suggest dropping him and look at bringing Pat Lambie in to get him ready for the future.

Stefan Terblanche was brilliant until he kicked the ball away aimlessly. His positional play was amazing, but his kicking kept allowing the Chiefs back into the Sharks half. The correct blowing of the Laws protects the ball carrier, so why in hell does he constantly give the ball back to the opposition. I expect more from this guy, yet when it counts he makes stupid decisions.

Odwa Ndugane or JP? Why, you ask? Simple actually, they are both brilliant defensive players, but neither offer anything on attack. Odwa should be the one dropped, on Saturday when Odwa ran up-field I’m almost certain I saw a geriatric with a walker pass him. The Sharks need at least one wing that can carry the ball up and make some ground, this shouldn’t only be Ryan Kankowski’s job. As in the last year he has made more breaks up the touch line than either wing.

Overall the Sharks need to sort out simple issues. The first one is hold onto the ball, even if it means driving it up with the forwards for 80 minutes, but by giving it back to the opposition you are never going to get out your half. Saturday showed this. Secondly handling, the Sharks players know what the conditions are like in Durban in February, yet every year they get outplayed by the opposition. Wake up and deal with it, it isn’t an excuse anymore. Support play is still limited out wide and players are still getting themselves isolated. How hard is it to slow down and make sure someone is there to protect you when you are tackled, or hoof it up field so you can’t get tackled. And finally selections, why was Keegan Daniel on the field in a thunderstorm? In the rain you have your workhorses, not your show ponies.

But every cloud has a silver lining, and the Sharks was Rory Kockett’s performance. He played well. He passed the ball, he box kicked well and overall he had a great all round performance. There may be some hope if he keeps this up, Ruan doesn’t get injured and we don’t need to use Jannie du Plessis again this season. But I am not going to get excited, I have a gut feeling the Sharks will be lucky to make the top six this year, unless they do a large spring clean of their skills.



147 Comments

  • read my article, history says we will finish in the bottom three

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.02.10 08:56:40 by war1 Reply
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  • Very good thread and a nice read for a monday morning, agree with the Odwa comment, he is way to slow.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.02.10 08:56:46 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 1) : i did. and i agree we aren’t going to do well. the sharks have become the stormers, too many great individuals, no team cohesion.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.02.10 08:58:46 by try time Reply

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  • before you criticise odwa & jp for not doing anything, there’s a stats that supersport puts up with the rest of them. “balls spread out wide to wings” if you can tell me what that stat was for the sharks on saturday and then compare it with the work rate, or lack thereof, of the Sharks wings, you will probably get to an objective conclusion about the two players concerned.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.02.10 09:00:02 by Megatron Reply

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  • What ’bout griquas wing bjorn basson?don’t know how much game time he is going to get with demar,nokwe and mapoe in cheetahs squad.he is speedy.

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.02.10 09:04:55 by bergshark Reply

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  • Just a point of order, Strauss was apparently offsides when he played the ball back, that was the penalty. However, ref and TJ both missed hands in the maul as well as about 8 players in front of the kicker from the last kick-off which should have been penalised.

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.02.10 09:05:12 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 4) : yes but habana rarely got ball from his backs at the bulls, so he would go closer to his scrum half to get some ball. how often do see our wings looking for the ball.

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.02.10 09:06:05 by try time Reply

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  • perhaps the fault lies with sharks backline coach ?

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.02.10 09:08:53 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 6) : he was only off sides, because the ball was supposedly knocked on by rory. so we agree the ref was shocking. but that doesn’t exonerate the shit sharks.

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.02.10 09:08:54 by try time Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 8) : which one? we had two when I last checked

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.02.10 09:10:10 by war1 Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 8) : no i think it is the backline players. the sharks have had different backline coaches but they still play the same way. i don’t thinkm these guys listen to the game plan, they just do what the …. they feel like. which is pretty limited from what we have seen over the last year.

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.02.10 09:10:58 by try time Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 5) : this supports my arguement, both these players looked for work in the bulls game. ok but defensively they were kak. the cheetahs have the opposite problem. maybe a wing switch is in order.

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.02.10 09:12:36 by try time Reply

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  • My line up If we stand a chance to turn things around:

    1.beast
    2.john
    3.herbst
    4.sykes
    5. muller,lets hope he is fit.
    6. keegan
    7. deysel
    8. alberts
    9.rory
    10. ruan
    11. jp
    12. riaan
    13. adi
    14. odwa
    15. stef
    16. bismark
    17. deon carstens
    18. pat cilliers
    19. hargreaves, mostert out injured i am guessing.
    20. kankowski.
    21. monty
    22. waylon

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.02.10 09:15:26 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 13) : would agree with that, mostly. swop burden for bismarck and possibly mvovo for odwa

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.02.10 09:18:01 by war1 Reply
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  • we could do with an aussie backline coach -they are the masters of deception

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.02.10 09:18:15 by bergshark Reply

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  • Why is it only me it seems that believes the ref got it 100% right with that last call of offside as I read the law?

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.02.10 09:19:29 by Morné Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 3) : Good article. Think finally someone else thinks like me. Those Dup brothers are a liability. Bissie cost us on Saturday and the feeling is they think they bigger than the team. Not good.

    Odwa should be replaced by Mvovo. JP his defence is very good and that try saving tackle was superb. BUT, just look at the Cheetahs wings? They have awesome speed. That is what we need.

    Ruan just has to play FH and Rory had a great game on Saturday.

    We wont finish higher than 8th probably about 9th. Our tour just too difficult this year. Also don’t underestimate the Cheetahs, they played very well against the Bulls, had that been any other team, Cheetahs would have beaten them. WE need to be at our best this week to beat them. Feel a bit worried we could lose this game against them too this weekend.

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.02.10 09:20:54 by Puma Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 15) : we need aussie players that are willing to work on their intellect to improve. no point wasting money on a coach, when the players are thick.

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.02.10 09:21:50 by try time Reply

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  • Should burden not get a chance at outside center (don’t know how good kicking game is,so not want to chance him on the wing)

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.02.10 09:23:30 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 17) : cheetahs were great but they still leak far too many tackles out wide. its a pity the sharks don’t know how to attack out wide, so they will be a tough team to beat this weekend.

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.02.10 09:24:08 by try time Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 19) : we don’t know how good our centres are on attack, because they are never given the chance. i don’t remember seeing waylon or adi on saturday. strauss made some good tackles.

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.02.10 09:25:32 by try time Reply

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  • @try time:they do seem smarter than us :-( .but our coaches are also not so smart. When last did you hear of a sa coach write or introduce something groud-breaking?

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.02.10 09:28:40 by bergshark Reply

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  • Hi all. Firstly thanks to Sharksworld and Sharksrugby.co.za for the rugby tickets on Saturday :cool: ……it was a soaking experience. The first time I take my wife to the rugby(she hates rugby) and it’s pissing with rain and it wasn’t rugby of the highest quality but an enjoyable night nontheless.

    My thoughts.

    Trade in Jannie and Bis for one decent tighthead….preferably BJ Botha.
    Sitting on the south stand behind the poles and I could see how bad the ref was….it was shocking…I haven’t been able to watch the game again but it was blatently obvious that the ref made some terrible calls. The last ruck prior to the Chief try had at least 2 Chiefs player come in from the side. I understand the crowds frustration but that doesn’t condone the bad crowd behaviour. It was actually embarrasing hearing the profanities that came from the crowd directed at the ref (and I’m no prude). Actually the lightning show behind the stands was probably more entertaining for my wife than the rugby. As for the Sharks. Players need to to feel the pain for their actions. Bismarck should not even be considered for the Cheetah’s game. Rory proved me wrong and had a great game and I don’t think you can appreciate how wet it was if you weren’t at the game. Stefan is still a great player. Odwa IS slow. JPP what great defence.

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.02.10 09:30:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 22) : i agree, one area sa rugby failed in over the past 15 years was developing quality coaches. it is going to take a decade to fix this now.

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.02.10 09:33:16 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 23) : yeah stefan is good, but he needs to do a lot more on attack. especially if he has lazy wings.

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.02.10 09:35:05 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 20) : Maybe need to change Odwa with Mvovo. Then on Saturday the weather condtions was not good for attacking rugby really. Probably with the humidity this coming weekend it wont be either.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.02.10 09:35:11 by Puma Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 14) : Burden would probably offer more coming off the bench, agree.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.02.10 09:36:17 by JJR Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 23) : I take it your wife wont go to the rugby again ;-)

    Yes thought the ref make some really bad calls. Still will never agree with this daft system we have the the refs, by having a ref from the same country as the team we are playing reffing the game. Bring back neutral refs please. We going to have a kiwi ref once again when we play Saders. I want the best refs but it has to be neutral refs.

    Agree those Dup brothers are a liability and Bissie should be dropped to the bench for costing us that game on Saturday.

    Read about the supporters throwing bottles at the ref and onto the field. Not good press for us Sharks supporters who pride ourselves in our good behaviour. Well it used to be the best. Those that do that and bring our names down at the Tank, should be banned from going there ever again. They do that in OZ we should do it here, ban them.

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.02.10 09:43:51 by Puma Reply

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  • The way i see it this is how the season will pan out.

    I think if the weather is good this friday i think the sharks will take it, but i am not saying it will be easy, it is gonna be tough. On tour i would say 3 or 2 wins out of the five. We will beat reds,lions and blues. The bulls will be a 60\40 chance to the Bulls. Strmers game will be an on the day performance. We should take the force considering their lack of depth in most areas.

    That leaves us on about 35-40 points. I do not know if that will be good enough to sneak into semis we will just have to wait and see.

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.02.10 09:44:04 by JJR Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 26) : yes but the sharks have practiced in this weather for months now, and they are shown up by opposition that have had a week to prepare. it isn’t an excuse anymore.

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.02.10 09:44:58 by try time Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 29) : yes sharks need to win at least 8 games. they need losing bp’s and 4 try bp’s. so no more defending the lead, or we can kiss any chance good bye. we have to beat cheetahs with for tries on saturday.

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.02.10 09:55:12 by try time Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 29) : 3 wins on tour? VERY tough

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.02.10 09:56:09 by war1 Reply
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  • i’m not too sure if the sharks practise any territorial kicking, because what they were doing on sat, especially terblanche was just stupidly giving the ball away! Between monty, odwa & stefan they couldn’t find touch the whole game, it took ruan to drill a touch-finder & pin the chiefs in their half! If this is the influence of HRE the sharks are going to see their gatte!

    If they play the same defensive gameplan of allowing opposition to camp for 10min in their half, against the cheetahs Mapoe will make them pay!

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.02.10 10:04:24 by Megatron Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 21) : Way put in a few good hits too. Only thing he did.

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.02.10 10:06:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : only thing he was allowed to do. the chiefs centres only got ball when donald or their full back gave them ball and monty and stefan kicked everything they got. what can you expect? it is the reason the sharks stayed pinned in their half.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.02.10 10:10:50 by try time Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 33) : what do you mean saturday? stefan has been doing this since he arrived at the sharks. His general play is so good people overlook his stupid kicking. but it is his decision making that is killing our backline. we might as well have extra loose forwrds at wings and centre.

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.02.10 10:12:57 by try time Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 32) : would have been two had they not cocked up this weekend.

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.02.10 10:14:05 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 23) : Howzit Pokkel, your wife forgiven you yet… :lol:

    I must say I’m feeling a lot better after attending yesterday’s group session…I can now again focus on blaming Straeuli for everything that is wrong in SA… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.02.10 10:19:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I really love my rugby but I am not keen to watch another game until they choose a referee and linesman that has not already chosen their winning team BEFORE the game even started. So many things were overlooked by both the referee and bad decisions made by the NEW ZEALAND linesman. Sure, the Sharks were not up to standard but they must have been very disappointed by the favouritism shown towards the Chiefs.

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.02.10 10:20:39 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • ok now a little positivity, the sharks do hit four lucky games overseas. brumbies, highlanders, hurricanes and waratahs are returning from the sa tour when they play the sharks, so they will be a bit jet weary as we know the flight that way kills teams. i bet this is something no-one took into account when writing off the sharks. rob do i get an extra star for this?

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.02.10 10:21:18 by try time Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 38) : i blame the brain drain that has left us with the shit administrators we have.

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.02.10 10:22:51 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 40) : Ooooh, nicely done old chap, some light at the end of this very long and dark tunnel we call the S14.

    Hope the ref wont be flying with those teams… :grin:

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.02.10 10:26:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • The conditions were really bad (weather + refs)- had we managed hold on in the last few minutes – I would’ve been impressed. Yes, it’s been raining in Durban but the storm on Saturday was a bit different – rained throughout the match. I’m surprised there weren’t as many knock-ons as I expected.

    JP – saved two tries on his own …and I don’t remember him wasting possession. It wasn’t a “wing game” at all. Odwa is slow – always has been – no miracles expected there . He has however improved on catching, kicking and protecting the ball in the tackle. It’s up to Plum to decide if he wants to trade that experience for raw pace. If it’s raw pace we want – Mvovo has plenty. All I can say is : Jongi Nokwe + Lionel Mapoe.

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.02.10 10:27:56 by blackshark Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 41) : Yes, seems the administration went to the same seminar the Cheetahs attended last year…bunch of dum-dum’s we have.

    I would love to see guys like Honnibal, Jouba and Teichman getting involved with the Sharks.

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.02.10 10:30:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 29) : MMMM I`m not so confident.

    Lets see we have Crusers, `Tahs, Brumbies, Highlanders and `Canes on tour.

    Highlanders are the historical weak link there but they didn`t look too out of shape against the `Crusers so they`ll be tough in the House of Pain as well. . .
    On this weekends performance the Brumbies might be an easier target, but they should have Gits and Elsom back by then so yeah that`ll give them some confidence as well.
    The way the Bulls are playing I`d say more of a 150 / -50% chance.
    As for the Stormers, they seem to have our number now.

    But hey lets look ahead and take it as it comes guys. They`ll improve. They just have to.

    @try time (Comment 31) : Regarding the Cheetahs, I know I`ve said some things about them here in the past but on this weekends performance, with those live wire wings I`d be hard pressed to put money on the Sharks.

    In fact on this weekends performance I might rate them above the Stormers.

    But all is not lost! We`ll take the Lions. Did you guys see their new wing?! How that plonker can start above Henno Mentz is beyond me . . .

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.02.10 10:33:55 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : why they make more money away from rugby. except honiball whose daddy still beats him around for not looking aftyer the farm. :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.02.10 10:39:06 by try time Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 45) : yeah how half the guys that started were allowed to play. once the subs came on the lions were strong.

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.02.10 10:40:19 by try time Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 28) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 38) : My wife loved the weekend and actually suggested we go every weekend. we live in Newcastle about 350km from Durban and my wife and daughter love going to the beach. We stayed in Umhloti and spend quite a bit of time on the beach(I’m not a saltwater and sand person)My wife would happily go to the rugby with me if she gets to spend some time on the beach every weekend. My bank account however will not allow this.

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.02.10 10:40:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 45) : he compliments chavanga nicely. Neither has hands worth anything :-)

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.02.10 10:41:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’m worried about the cheetah’s game. They score a lot and concede a lot, but as Rob said we don’t have the backline to score. Let’s hope it rains again I’m sure the Cheetah’s don’t practice in humidity and rain very often

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.02.10 10:46:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 31) : Agree, but it is still difficult to play in. Think the rain suited the Chiefs more so than us ;-)

    No rain maybe it would have been better, then again maybe they would have beaten us by more. They looked very good with ball in hand.

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.02.10 10:46:18 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 50) : :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.02.10 10:47:00 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 51) : apparently it is harder to play in durban humidity than rain, so the rain should have made it easier for the sharks. no they are not getting off that lightly.

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.02.10 10:50:51 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 48) : Pokkel a long way to travel to the rugby and it rains. Looks like you will be taking her more often then if the beach calls but will be broke!! :lol: …..

    Did you go with Snoek by any chance? I know he said he lives in Newcastle.

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.02.10 10:51:24 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 50) : i said that, not rob. just cos he gave you tickets to the game… :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.02.10 10:51:45 by try time Reply

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  • On another note : How come I didn’t know that Supersport.Com now streams Cricket and Rugby and stuff?

    So if you are a DSTV subscriber all you have to do is register and you can catch “Weekday” matches live on your PC.

    I’m really excited…just found out about this today. :smile:

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.02.10 10:52:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : Fires now you talking. I too would like those guys involved with the Sharks.

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.02.10 10:54:31 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 54) : No, I don’t know Snoek(well maybe I do and I just don’t know it)I met up with firethelooser at the game(we both won tickets and were seated together)

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.02.10 10:56:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 56) : Never knew that either. Interesting that.

    Just have to say your photo there looks MEAN man!! hahahahahahaha.

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.02.10 10:57:04 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 58) : Just thought you might.

    Good that you sat with someone from here then.

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.02.10 10:58:18 by Puma Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 55) : Sorry, I thought I read a comment that Rob made somewhere about that

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.02.10 10:59:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • ;-) @blackshark (Comment 56) : Cool man, never knew it either, now just need uncapped internet and 4mb (soon to be 8mb) line and it will help… :lol:

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.02.10 11:00:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 43) : Think those two Cheetahs wings are going to be the best in this tourney. Both are blitz.

    Habs looked good too making that try for Pietersen against the Lions.

    JPP defence was really good and those try saving tackles were superb. We could have lost by more if it was not for that.

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.02.10 11:01:21 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 61) : he may have, but i said it in comment 20 above. :lol: just cause he is the moderator, doesn’t mean he gets credit due to me. :lol:

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.02.10 11:02:23 by try time Reply

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  • I am really looking forward to Louis Ludick returning to full fitness…he might just be the spark than he Sharks backline needs

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.02.10 11:03:12 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 65) : definitely. he will be a great player to start with, then bring the solid player like stefan to close out the game at the end.

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.02.10 11:05:01 by try time Reply

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  • i think they should rest johan this week and let his shoulder heal properly. and bring hargreaves in. his pace might be more useful against the pace of the cheetahs.

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.02.10 11:06:34 by try time Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 63) : You know our troll friend from this site?…..and you remember my troll ‘friend’ from that other site you wanred me against…..same person

  • Comment 68, posted at 15.02.10 11:13:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 32) : I know that will be tough, but i believe the Sharks have learnt some lessons from last years tour. If we have a fit squad i believe we can get three. Like we have just found out many of the teams we face on tour would have just finished their tour. Levels it up a bit.

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.02.10 11:16:06 by JJR Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 66) : I was thinking of using him at 13 or in Odwa’s place, but perhaps you are right he can spark something from the back…I just don’t think Stefan will be dropped by Plum

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.02.10 11:16:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Yahooooo, star upgrade

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.02.10 11:25:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Oh ja…I also think we would’ve done better if Ruan had started – but I guess that decision was influenced by other factors. Mr. Dumond has the vision of 3 blind mice.

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.02.10 11:28:38 by blackshark Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 68) : It could be Fires. There are 3 of them that are close mates. So could be any one of them. The best is if no-one here answers their posts they will get bored and go back to voldy. Just trolls they are.

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.02.10 11:28:47 by Puma Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 67) : That is if there is no rain. Maybe a good idea to keep Mullers shoulder good for the tour coming up

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.02.10 11:30:18 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 73) : Hey buddy, you finaly got a star…congratulations

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.02.10 11:38:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : hahahaha. I just noticed :lol:

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.02.10 11:39:34 by Puma Reply

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  • Sharks must win all their remaining games in sa – 5 at home ,1vs bulls and 1 vs lions .that gives 7 wins. 2 wins on tour and we’re at 9 wins. We just need 2 win every sa derby.there is big bragging rights in that -and confidence builder for currie cup.

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.02.10 11:42:28 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 76) : With the Sharks playing the way they are, and the ref blowing the way he blows, and the duppies constant mental implosions we should all have 5 stars by the end of this S14 season.

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.02.10 11:43:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 71) : try going from 4 to 5. it is going to take me all season.

  • Comment 79, posted at 15.02.10 11:59:11 by try time Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 78) : hahaha. could be.

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.02.10 12:03:25 by Puma Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 79) : I noticed that too and I don’t think I’ll make it unless I start posting some articles or retire and post comments all day long

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.02.10 12:04:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 79) : Write them articles boys…ja, seems the mountain gets higher and more difficult..strengfffffff

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.02.10 12:13:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Anybody else wondering if Rory Kockett has developed a bit of a crush on Hashim Amla?

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.02.10 12:21:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 82) : @Pokkel (Comment 81) : yeah i think i’ll do what other posters with 5 stars have done and that is copy and paste articles. this writing original stuff takes time. unless you are rob that writes an article then writes another to contradict himself, then writes another to explain why he wrote the first…(but all the articles are the same except from different angles) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 84, posted at 15.02.10 12:26:05 by try time Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 83) : i have always noticed rory’s deep set eyes, but the beard makes it look worse. who cares he plays better with it, so let it grow rory “samson” kockett, let it grow. and don’t let delilah tell you otherwise.

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.02.10 12:28:06 by try time Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 83) :
    Not sure about Rory but I think I am developing a crush on Hash.

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.02.10 12:44:24 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 79) : i’m thinking of adjusting the levels

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.02.10 12:45:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rory reminds me of someone straight out of the American Civil war, Robert E Kockett or even better Wyatt Kockett (with apologies to all concerned)

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.02.10 12:49:36 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : oops and there i was being nasty. :oops:

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.02.10 13:01:16 by try time Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 86) : Hash? as in the drug hash? :?:

  • Comment 90, posted at 15.02.10 13:02:18 by try time Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 88) : or give him a racoon pelt and call him davey kockett.

  • Comment 91, posted at 15.02.10 13:04:41 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 84) : :lol:

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.02.10 13:07:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 90) : ;-)

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.02.10 13:12:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Still rooting for the Sharks no matter what, going to stay faithful to them :razz:

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.02.10 13:14:02 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 94) : that’s the spirit

  • Comment 95, posted at 15.02.10 13:47:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 94) : even if it means supporting the bulls during the next month?

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.02.10 13:56:29 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 96) : Sies, hoe kan jy dit se?! Gaan spoel jou mond onmidelik uit… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.02.10 14:00:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 97) : sad but true. we as loyal sharks fans need to support the bulls in a few of the games coming up. we need them to batter the brumbies waratahs highlanders and hurricanes in the next month. so when these guys land home they are tenderised for the sharks.

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.02.10 14:03:08 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 98) : Hectic man, I grew up in that province :shock: , my in-laws are Bulls :shock: , my sister support the bulls :shock: , I’ve had to endure all their ‘bra’ jokes and ridicule all my life…now willingly have a blow at their overinflated egos :shock: ….how am I gonna do that. That’s almost as bad as picking the Cheetahs for my superbru :shock: x2, even though a Cheetahs win is likely :shock: x8, you just don’t do it.

    I’ll have to be a closet Bulls suporter then….well against the ozzies and kiwis it shouldnt be too hard, they such big mouths in anycase.

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.02.10 14:12:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 99) : i never said it would be easy. :lol: :lol: i keep gagging at the thought myself. :shock:

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.02.10 14:18:45 by try time Reply

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  • Support the Bulls ??????

    Not that desperate at this point…I do hope the Cows will give the Aussies and Kiwi’s a good bruising and empty their gas tanks…but it ends there…if you’re talking about that kinda “support” then I’m in.

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.02.10 15:26:55 by blackshark Reply

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  • attack attack attack.

    when will we see it :roll: this is a bit disappointment for me. And Bis – he must embrace that he is a world class player now and cannot do stupid things.
    The least said about Jannie the better. Hope they both improve though.

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.02.10 21:30:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • I value comments by Morne, Rob, TT and war1 (if i left out any obvious names, now is not the time to sh!t on my head). What i mean is that i dont regard my rugby knowledge as topshot. But i do have this to say and might repeat myself:
    1. we have awesum young talent at prop with herbst, julian, pat, chadwick. Why do we stick to jannie and why is it that the only the sharks have to play players out of position? (john, frans steyn, ruan)
    2. Bis needs a wake up call. Book him a seat in the stand.
    3. We spent thousands on joe snyman. Dont go the same way with hargo, bressler, marais bro’s.
    4. Same as above for rhodes, downey, ndlovu, whiteley (already lost him).
    5. Develop lambie and guy at 10. Forget a foreign 10.
    6. Vulindlu or mvovo at 14. Said it 2 yrs ago, odwa does nothing wrong, but what does he create or add?
    7. Why did we buy Jean Stemmet? Where is Riaan Swanepoel?
    8. Stef, amazing what he brings to the back, but i think he does’nt trust his speed or instincts to attack more.
    9. Sharks and Brown made a truffle on saturday.
    10. Lastly, fire the looser :-)
    Point.

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.02.10 22:07:44 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • “HERE WE GO AGAIN (YAWN)”…what a good heading for this article and the fast majority of comments :roll:
    I must admit I am thorougly bored “yawn” with all the negativism I have to read, every time the Sharks lose…with so many negative vibes coming from the fans…. no wonder the guys are battlng with confidence.
    Please some one write an article about the positive side of the game/players….send some good vibes,especially now that the guys are due to leave home for alooong tour.

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.02.10 23:27:33 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 96) :
    Support the Bulls, as hard as I try I just cannot :evil: they are just so full of themselves and think they are the best, they also cheat and definately get extra minutes no matter what anyone says, I firmly believe that :!:

  • Comment 105, posted at 16.02.10 09:52:31 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 104) : me2 i actually have tried to be positive about the sharks. if you remember pre season i was actually quite enthusiastic. then they tok the field and killed all the hope i had built up. i agree it would be nice to read some postive about the team. so lets talk about rory’s great performance. and how about johan muller courageous effort. deysel did well enough, ryan was good. Sykes was solid. but it is the same guys carrying a few morons. it is a team sport but we aren’t seeming to get a team effort out of them. what makes me the most negative about the sharks is i have always enjoyed the sharks running style of rugby, yet over the last year and a bit they have started playing 10 man snoring rugby. And the bulls that i despised for playing that dull dreary way are playing the old shark brand and succeeding. then you hear plumtree give a whole song and dance about how the players are going to throw it around a bit, and what did we get on saturday? the same old shit we had to keep our eyes open for last year. so i apologise if my negativity upsets the team, i mean i don’t get paid to be their fan, but they get paid to entertain me. someone is letting someone down.

  • Comment 106, posted at 16.02.10 12:02:47 by try time Reply

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  • hey rob i see i have 5 stars. so you changed the levels. thats cool. i was getting depressed at the thought of how much more i had to do to get that extra star. :grin: :grin:

  • Comment 107, posted at 16.02.10 12:04:29 by try time Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 105) : yeah but they are playing the shark brand of rugby which is nice to see. just get a black and white tv and you can almost see them as sharks players. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 108, posted at 16.02.10 12:14:45 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 106) : when plum talked about giving the ball some air he was referring to stefan kicking the ball aimlessly in the direction of the opposition half but never finding touch… :roll:

  • Comment 109, posted at 16.02.10 12:20:50 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 109) : Pity how the Sharks seemed to have lost that “kicking” ability, but I will still root for them

  • Comment 110, posted at 16.02.10 12:23:58 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 107) : LOL :lol: I have no stars!!!!

  • Comment 111, posted at 16.02.10 12:24:40 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 109) : oh so he wasn’t talking shit. sorry plum, i misread what you had to say. :roll:

  • Comment 112, posted at 16.02.10 12:32:18 by try time Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 111) : nor do the lions. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 113, posted at 16.02.10 12:32:50 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 108) : black and white TV – good idea ha ha

  • Comment 114, posted at 16.02.10 12:32:57 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 110) : they haven’t lost the kicking ability, they don’t stop kicking. they have lost the running ability. but i know what you mean, their tactical kicking is poor. both monty and stefan were poor.

  • Comment 115, posted at 16.02.10 12:34:58 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 113) : very funny, ha ha :mrgreen:

  • Comment 116, posted at 16.02.10 12:36:27 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 115) : Think back to Cheetahs/Sharks semi final, that should have been a lesson to them about trying to kick and missing, they need to work on that fault.

  • Comment 117, posted at 16.02.10 12:37:15 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 116) : i have my moments

  • Comment 118, posted at 16.02.10 12:37:16 by try time Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 111) : You still a toddler :twisted:

  • Comment 119, posted at 16.02.10 12:40:29 by Charlie Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 118) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 120, posted at 16.02.10 12:42:32 by Charlie Reply

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  • Lights out: Since the days of Rassie Erasmus’ disco lights the Cheetahs have always been at the forefront of technology as they look to give their team an on-field advantage. We are reliably informed that their latest defensive manoeuvre, dramatically put on display last Friday, is called “The Tripswitch”.

  • Comment 121, posted at 16.02.10 12:46:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 117) : think back to super 14 2009. actually that thought is as horrible as thinking about your parents going at it. :lol:

  • Comment 122, posted at 16.02.10 12:46:38 by try time Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 121) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: funny thing is it actually hurt the cheetahs more than the bulls.

  • Comment 123, posted at 16.02.10 12:51:27 by try time Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 119) : What is that supposed to mean? How do I grow up?

  • Comment 124, posted at 16.02.10 13:04:38 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 124) : Comment boyeeeeee, lots of comments…or contact Rob and write some articles

  • Comment 125, posted at 16.02.10 13:14:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 125) : Oooh for a woman that is kind of difficult especially on a sports page, but I will try my best as I am very new at this.

  • Comment 126, posted at 16.02.10 13:24:48 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 126) : Come now, woman mos love talking alot… :mrgreen:

    Just hang around here long enough and you’ll soon know what’s happening on and mostly off the field ;-)

    As long as you back the Sharks, blame the ref or the Duppies if we loose, and find even the thought of cheering for the Bulls nauseating your comments will be welcomed :lol:

  • Comment 127, posted at 16.02.10 13:52:44 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 127) : Ok cool, I back the Sharks, I can’t stand the bulls and I always blame the ref so I am well on my way!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 128, posted at 16.02.10 14:10:32 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 113) : careful :lol:

  • Comment 129, posted at 16.02.10 15:09:35 by Greg Reply

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  • and we LOVE our girl posters here. In fact, I reckon we have more %wise than any other site.

  • Comment 130, posted at 16.02.10 15:43:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 130) : Rob, why so quiet today? The boy being busy today? or writing the next best thing in sports journalism?

  • Comment 131, posted at 16.02.10 15:46:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 130) : What happenend to Ice?

  • Comment 132, posted at 16.02.10 16:01:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 131) : I have a dayjob… :(

  • Comment 133, posted at 16.02.10 16:03:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 132) : she’s taking a bit of a break from blogging.

  • Comment 134, posted at 16.02.10 16:03:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 134) : Ja, I think I should be taking one of those…know of any good addiction centres worth going to… :lol:

  • Comment 135, posted at 16.02.10 16:05:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 134) : If all goes according to plan I will also have to. I’m planning on making lots of money this year and it will interfere with my blogging time. :sad:

  • Comment 136, posted at 16.02.10 16:07:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 135) : http://www.sharksworld.co.za :)

  • Comment 137, posted at 16.02.10 16:14:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 127) : she can blame rory as well :mrgreen:

  • Comment 138, posted at 16.02.10 16:15:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 134) : a dayjob :?: :mrgreen:

    missing her. it was much fun.

  • Comment 139, posted at 16.02.10 16:18:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 137) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 140, posted at 16.02.10 16:20:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 137) : post – game sharks help centre :mrgreen:

  • Comment 141, posted at 16.02.10 16:22:38 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 133) : a day job? what was your night job LOL :mrgreen:

  • Comment 142, posted at 17.02.10 10:05:36 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 142) : research for Sharksworld. I do occasionally do some. Just not for the Jean de Villiers article :)

  • Comment 143, posted at 17.02.10 10:10:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 143) : Sharksworld is the best website, I love it!!!! Thanks for all your research :razz:

  • Comment 144, posted at 17.02.10 10:16:09 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 144) : you can stay! I like you :)

    Must be getting pretty close to that first star now…

  • Comment 145, posted at 17.02.10 10:17:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 143) : Rob, also want to thank you for all your patience with my ongoing emails, I think I am finally getting the gist of things here, still have a long way to go before I can catch up with the others though. Just like the Sharks, between the two of us WE WILL SUCCEED :lol:

  • Comment 146, posted at 17.02.10 10:17:39 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 145) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thank you :!: :!: :!:

  • Comment 147, posted at 17.02.10 10:19:44 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

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