Time to walk the walk, Plum

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 15 Feb 2010 at 05:00
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Bismarck du Plessis needs to get the chop from the Sharks starting lineup. We have heard a lot of talk about how the depth in the squad now allows for non-performing players to be dropped. John Plumtree has now got to back that talk up with action and punish du Plessis for costing his side the game.

There’s very little doubt in my mind that du Plessis’s stupid late shoulder charge, which saw him yellow-carded, swung the momentum of the match back in the Chiefs’ favour. This after the Sharks had withstood a ten-minute assault deep within their own 22 and managed to work their way back upfield. A few Rory Kockott penalties later and the home side were sitting pretty, nine points ahead. The Bismarck brainfart undid all of that, though.

If there’s on position where the Sharks are not shot of options, it’s hooker. In fact, John Plumtree’s headache is more due to the fact that he has too many quality rakes in his squad. Against a Cheetahs outfit that prides themselves on their ability to dominate in the scrum, John Smit virtually has to be selected at hooker with Jannie du Plessis at tighthead. It makes rugby sense and as mentioned above, the petulant Bismarck needs to learn a harsh lesson.

Show us your balls, Plumtree! Pick John at 2 this weekend and let Bismarck watch the game from the stands. It will be in the best interests of the team in the long run, of that I’m sure.


  • eish, hardy Bissie.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.02.10 06:02:05 by Megatron Reply
    MegatronSuper Rugby player
  • bissie is a bok veteran, you can’t just drop him like that. He wasn’t alone in the “brainfart” stakes…captain fantastic also weighed in with a blatant professional foul right after the ref had spoken to him that his team had had enough warnings for breakdown infringements…

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.02.10 06:21:55 by Megatron Reply
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  • I actualy agree with Megatron, then Alberts also has to be dropped, he was lucky not to get a yellow for his late tackle and Smit also should then be deropped…If the crowd felt frustrated enough to throw bottles at the ref, just think what the Sharks team felt, Bis acted out of frustration and took his frustration out on the Chiefs same as the crowd.

    I know it does not justify anybody’s actions, but Bis can’t take the blame for the loss. It’s now time for the Sharks to pull together and show some character. They must have their ‘blame the ref’ group session today like we did yesterday, get it of their chest and get over it.

    If we play the Cheetahs with the ‘it was the refs fault’ mentality then I’m afraid we’ll get trashed by the Cheetahs. Same happened last season (or the season before) with the Brumbies where we got shafted by the ref, the very next week we were slaughtered by the ‘Tahs.

    I know it sucked that the ref was useless, but there still is a lot of work to be done by the Sharks if we are to enjoy any form of success this season.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.02.10 06:47:29 by FireTheLooser Reply
    FireTheLooserAssistant coach
  • I think the Sharks have bigger problems than blaming Bismarck du Plessis for the loss.

    Earlier this year I predicted that this is going to be a long season for the Sharks…I forsee a very bad year and Plumtree to be given the boot. That’s what I think will bring a change of fortunes, but it’s going to take some time before the Sharks start winning anything.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.02.10 07:23:26 by sanjaydeva Reply
    sanjaydevaUnder 21 player
  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 4) : I sure hope you’re wrong.

    I can’t say I realy rate Plum to high as coach, he’s been reaping the fruits of Muir’s labour without realy doing much visible from his own side.

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.02.10 07:32:13 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 5) : I’d like to say I’m wrong and Plum seems highly regarded by some players, especially John Smit. However he has one very little besides the 2008 CC, but more importantly I see very little structure, and forward progress from his time in charge.

    I especially think the Sharks don’t look like they are capable of scoring tries at Super 14 level, last year and very early on this year. Do you think the departure of van den Berg and later Muller is a sign that all is not well?

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.02.10 07:42:48 by sanjaydeva Reply
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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 6) : I have been seriously worried about what’s happening behind the scenes at the Sharks, especialy with my ‘friend’ Straeuli having wormed his way up the management ladder.

    I think the Sharks have also lost a bit of their profesional edge with neither Plumtree nor Straeuli having played rugby under the professional era and I think that is mainly where the problem is.

    We seem also to only be able to score tries from opposition mistakes and I can’t remember when last we scored a try from set play.

    Here’s hoping when Smit retires he goes straight into the Sharks management, I do believe he’ll be a great asset in that regard.
    Wonder who’s being considered to take over from Plum when he leaves at the end of the year (or sooner).

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.02.10 07:57:13 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • Smit at 3 against Cheetahs??

    Good luck Sharks. Before last years cc SEMI i said that the beast,bissy,smit front row would struggle. What has changed?

    Be very careful about Smit at 3 Friday evening. Cheetahs will smell blood.

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.02.10 08:01:01 by grant10 Reply
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  • So bleak, missed the game completely but saw the last kick from Donald go over. Were we really that bad?

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.02.10 08:02:28 by billy Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) : Yes you confirm my concerns that everything is not right at the Sharks.

    I think Smit will be a great asset, but in the meantime who could coach the Sharks? A decent coach at flyhalf would go a long way to helping the Sharks!

    You could always support the Bulls like I do! I think the Bulls success can be related to having a very professional and forward thinking set-up. It’s all looking healthy in Pretoria, and there seems to be greater long-term strategising!

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.02.10 08:07:16 by sanjaydeva Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 8) : I think (hope) Plum will take the horses for courses stance and have Smit at hooker with Bis coming of the bench.

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.02.10 08:14:37 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 10) : Sadly you’re right (not the part about supporting the Bulls of course :lol: ) the setup in Pretoria seems to be very profesional, use to be the Sharks with the profesional froward thinking attitude, all went lost with Dick’s departure.

    I dont understand why they dont get some of the former greats to help with coaching the Sharks….backline they could use Honnibal and Jouba…forwards use Teichman, all were part of the ’98 record run with the Boks, now they’re slogging it out with the pre ’95 clan who never played a day of profesional rugby.

    But trust Staeuli to not have any vision whatsoever, he’ll just throw the ‘boys’ in a military environment and make some backyard porno’s…freak… :lol:

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.02.10 08:22:41 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : what concerns me the most is Smit doesent really cut it at Super 14 level at tighthead…..yet we continue to ask him to perform at 3 for the boks?

    Bloody frustrating…

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.02.10 08:33:05 by grant10 Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 12) : From what I understand many of the older players such as Teichmann, John Allan etc are only too happy to help. Balie Swart is now helping the Bulls, wasn’t he helping the Sharks at one stage?

    Is Brian van Zyl’s time up??

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.02.10 08:34:25 by sanjaydeva Reply
    sanjaydevaUnder 21 player
  • Leave bissie in the stands for this one.we could’ve and should’ve beaten the chiefs-if not for some ill-discipline.also would love 2 see running winning rugby ,but will settle for boring winning rugby anyday.

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.02.10 08:36:20 by bergshark Reply
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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 14) : I say it’s time for a total overhaul at the Sharks, starting with Straeuli.

    Dunno if Balie helped with the Sharks, not too sure on that one.

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.02.10 08:38:45 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 13) : Ja you’re taking a stab at me on that other site for wanting Smit at 2 for Friday yet I’ll have him at th for the Boks… :mrgreen:

    But who knows Grant10, you might still get your vindication, I just dont want to write Smit of…so give him a little bit more time, I say if by the end of the S14 he hasnt been able to make the grade, gooi him back to 2, Bis will maar have to play of the bench.

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.02.10 08:43:12 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • I agree with you Rob, drop Bissie from the 22 altogether. He needs to learn his lesson. A good player for 80 mins is better than a “great” player for 70 mins minus 10 points!

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.02.10 08:43:47 by war1 Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 2) : bismarck was responsible for a few of the transgressions that got john sent off. so be reasonable.

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.02.10 08:56:33 by try time Reply

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  • Whilst I thought Bismarck was ill-disiplined for the Sharks and Boks a couple of years ago, last year he was fantastic for the Boks. In one game he even pulled Smit away when Smit was getting frustrated with the ref and showed how mature he’d become.

    If he can do that for the Boks, why not the Sharks? Is he happy in 1 environment and not the other?? Whilst I think Smit is a great captain, in my opinion the Boks and the Sharks are completely different enviornments, whereas the Boks and Bulls are very similar. Compare the results each side gets. Maybe the influence of one Victor Matfield is bigger than most think. What about Gary Gold for Sharks coach!

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.02.10 08:59:35 by sanjaydeva Reply

    sanjaydevaUnder 21 player
  • @try time (Comment 19) : Oh, so it wasn’t only the late tackle which he was guitly of?

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.02.10 09:06:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 20) : you can ask the same about frans steyn. i think it is they feel they are better than a provincial team. we have all met people like this before, so why can’t it be the same in sport. maybe it is a freestate thing. i don’t want to play for a two bit team like the cheetahs, i’m going to the sharks. a year down the road. i am a springbok now, i don’t need to be in this team anymore, they aren’t great like me. it sounds so plausible.

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.02.10 09:18:07 by try time Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 21) : no he was caught a few times not letting the tackled player go or not rolling away.

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.02.10 09:18:56 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 22) : Dammit, valid point again, so many possible reasons as to what is actualy happening at the Sharks.

    Luckily the young blood coming through are local Durban talent…so no more FS’ers. Just so many rumours doing the rounds, hard to tell what is truth and what is fabricated journo lies.

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.02.10 09:27:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) : the biggest rumour mongers are actually the players agents. they use it as fishing tactics. remember wynand olivier, spies and habanas fishing trip a few years back. it cost the bulls a lot of money

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.02.10 10:06:33 by try time Reply

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  • Sharks XV posted a big win… lots of local lads in that team. Maybe there’s light at the end of this tunnel?

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.02.10 10:10:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Who were there opposition ?

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.02.10 10:14:56 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 27) : don’t ask :-)

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.02.10 10:32:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 20) : If I can choose I`d go for Jake White any day . . .

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.02.10 10:47:42 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 22) :

    I think Frans Steyn moved on because of being stuffed around by the Springbok coach. I think he made a proactive decision, rather than wait around and have his career completely messed up as per Ruan and Ricky…and dare I say John… All of these four players specifically have regressed in their rugby under PDV during the Bokke games…Frans Steyn is absolutely shinning at Racing Metro playing at 12.

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.02.10 15:25:44 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @sanjaydeva (Comment 10) :

    Heineke Meyer has left a GREAT legacy at the Bulls with the systems he has set up…..He should be contracted into help all SA unions…only way to world domination…:)

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.02.10 15:27:37 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) :
    But seriously, who were they playing?

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.02.10 15:48:40 by Salmonoid Reply
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