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Dollie IS good enough for S14


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 25 Feb 2010 at 07:42
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Brumbies coach, Andy Friend, believes former South African under-21 and Emerging Boks fly-half, Isma-eel Dollie, is a highly talented fly-half that is good enough to play Super 14 rugby.

“I really rate Ish as a player who has the ability to control a game,” Friend said on Wednesday.

“He is very quick, has good feet, great ball skills, but his great strength is his ability to control a game. In the Super 14 competition you need a smart footballer like him to put you in the right position on the field,” he said.

Sport 24 reports that the former Western Province and Boland fly-half was a member of Springbok coach, Peter de Villiers, enlarged Bok squad, but did not get one minute game-time with the Western Province’s Currie Cup side and the Stormers franchise to prove himself.

After being told that he does not fit into the Stormers plans, the 24-year old decided to move to the Brumbies academy last year to work his way through the ranks.

According to Friend, the Canberra based franchise however already had three contracted players with the ability to play in the pivot position.

“I really rate Dollie as a quality player, but unfortunately for him we already had Matt Toomua and Christian Lealiifano on our books. Gene Fairbanks (a centre) was also considered as an option in the number 10 jersey. That was the only reason why Dollie was not offered a contract. If any of these players had picked up an injury, Dollie would have come into the reckoning,” Friend said on Wednesday before his team’s clash with the Stormers on Friday night at Newlands.

This year the Brumbies also acquired the services of Matt Giteau who is widely regarded as one of the best fly-halves in the business.

Lealiifano will partner the experienced Stirling Mortlock in the midfield, with Toomua covering the fly-half position from the bench on Friday night

While at the Brumbies, Dollie received a lucrative offer from the motoring giant, Mitsubishi, to play for their club in Japan. It was an offer which he could not refuse.

Last year Lealiifano tore his hamstring in week nine of the Super 14 competition. Dollie was called up to the Brumbies. He however already had contractual obligations with his Japanese club and could not take up the offer.

Dollie has however expressed his desire to play Super 14 rugby and ultimately for the Springboks.

The Sharks were in negotiations with Dollie with the view to possibly contracting him for the Super 14 competition this year.

Sharks commercial manager, Rudolph Straeuli, confirmed the met with Dollie at a Cape Town hotel a few weeks ago.

“Yes, we looked at his CV and we know what he is capable of. We spoke to his former coaches and even consulted the Springbok-coach, Peter de Villiers,” Straeuli said at the time.

The Sharks then subsequently went on to sign former 30-year old England fly-half, Andy Goode.

Dollie has proven himself at all age group levels for South Africa. With the Springbok coach De Villiers struggling to find s talented players of colour to select from at Super 14 level, it is baffling that Dollie still hasn’t been given an opportunity to prove himself at any of the South African franchises.



31 Comments

  • YEAH????

    Then why didn’t you offer him a contract? I don’t believe the “we had 3 flyhalves line”

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.02.10 07:43:44 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • typically south african, they need someone from abroad to vouch for their own player before they SEE value themselves.

    didn’t that lying bastard brian van zyl say that it “was more Dollie interested in Sharks than the other way round”? So where does all this nonsense about meeting Ish at hotels, going over his CV & checking references come from?

    Between Straeli & van Zyl you have the biggest bunch of snakes in the business.

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.02.10 07:55:24 by Megatron Reply
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  • :evil: :evil: ;-)

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.02.10 07:58:10 by Charmaine Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 2) :

    Here I was thinking all along that you know something about rugby but are just anti-Sharks and now you go and make a comment like that about Dollie having any value????????????

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.02.10 08:07:43 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • old Ashfak still trying every desperate trick in the book to get his mate a contract somewhere. Pretty nice of him.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.02.10 08:31:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.02.10 08:34:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.02.10 08:58:15 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : as if you supposed validation means sh!t to me :roll: :D

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.02.10 09:04:26 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : don’t make the troll angry, ksa :-) he might stamp his way right through the bridge

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.02.10 09:07:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • Brumbies coach is a hoot.
    He rates Dollie so highly that he contracts a centre ahead of him to play flyhalf.

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.02.10 09:28:35 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • still learning alot about the rugby but it shows you after i’ve seen those clips, dollie is young and he is having fun shows you what young players can do when they want to prove a point sharks are going to at some stage of the game bring out our young players just maybe thats what we need young players like dollie :grin: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.02.10 09:33:17 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : that’s what I thought too. If Friend REALLY thought he was ready for the Super 14, he wouldn’t have sent him to Japan :)

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.02.10 10:00:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Thats what I thought when I saw the headline, thing is Ashfak doesn’t write for News24

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.02.10 10:19:43 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : there’s something called surplus to requirement…matt to’omua & christian leallifano were the contracted flyhalfs, the 3rd guy was a centre but could also slot in @ pivot if needed, now what sane coach is going to have 3 capable flyhalfs in his team & how will he justify it to management? They have now got gits from the force, to’omua is 2nd choice & lealiifano has been shifted to 2nd-five eighth

    The bulls had hougaard, steyn, francis, potgieter, they allowed potgieter to go to the cheetahs because they had ENOUGH cover at the position. Now Francis has left for the lions, they’ve take n back JLP from the cheetahs.

    It is really that simple.

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.02.10 10:26:52 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 14) :
    So why did they get Gito then – surely the same would apply to him. (surplus to requirements)

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.02.10 10:46:02 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Looks like a thinly disguised ploy to sabotage another SA team . . .

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.02.10 10:47:51 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : okay now that is a dumb assertion…

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.02.10 10:54:53 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) :
    Why?

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.02.10 11:24:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I dont rate Dollie whatsoever but he would certainly have been a better chance than Goode.

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.02.10 11:42:10 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 19) :
    You should also let Worcester know that?
    How can one individual be so overlooked?

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.02.10 11:45:58 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 18) :o h come on…because Giteau is a world class player and is miles better than both To’omua & Lealiifano combined! Any team in the world let alone the brumbies, would make space for him regardless of who they had in their books!

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.02.10 12:18:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 18) :

    How about the fact that Gits IS one of the best flyhalves in the world. :roll:

    Who wouldn’t sign him instead of Dollie??

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.02.10 12:21:36 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 21) : @wpw (Comment 22) :
    OK, we all know he is so good, but if your fourth choice player has the following said about him – “He is very quick, has good feet, great ball skills, but his great strength is his ability to control a game. In the Super 14 competition you need a smart footballer like him to put you in the right position on the field,” , how good are the 3 in front of him then and in that case was it really necessary to pay big bucks for one of the worlds best.

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.02.10 13:10:19 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 23) : are you trying to compare Gits to Dollie? Okay Celluloid you win the debate, Gits i better than Dollie & the fact that the Brumbies drafted Gits on top of their existing flyhalfs proves that Dollie is [email protected]

    Happy now? :roll:

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.02.10 13:30:18 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 14) :

    now what sane coach is going to have 3 capable flyhalfs in his team & how will he justify it to management

    I don’t know HOWn anyone would justify that to management. Maybe we should ask Frans Ludeke how he managed to get 3 flyhalves past his management on the way to winning the 2009 S14.

    Man those Bulls are crafty mothers!!!! I mean they got away with having three flyhalves

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.02.10 14:08:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 24) :

    Is there a punchline to that comment?

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.02.10 14:08:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) :
    Erm, actually the Brumbies also just happen to have 3 in their squad at the moment albeit one is at centre.
    Sane indeed.

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.02.10 14:41:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 27) :

    WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING? :roll: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.02.10 14:50:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : hahaha in you convoluted mind a comparison can be made between giteau & doliie :roll: go figure!

    So, why has lealiifano been moved to inside centre? Where is Fairbanks, have you seen him in the touring squad? Why ahs he been leap-frogged by a guy who played flyhalf exclusively?

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.02.10 14:50:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 29) :

    YOU have missed the kettle completely!!!!

    Dollie isn’t good enough to clean Giteau’s jockstrap, I have maintained that all along.

    You my “friend” and Andy Friend are the ones saying Dollie could be a S14 flyhalf.

    If Friend thought Dollie was that good back then then why not use him?

    one of three things happened here.
    1) Someone has paid friend to say this? unlikely
    2) Friend is scared someone in CT, where Friend happenes to be this weekend, bares a grudge for him not signing the Dollie bird. Possible
    3) Friend is playing a cruel joke on his fellow coaches trying to get them saddled with a WAY below par flyhalf for S14 level. Possible.

    :razz: :razz: :oops: :razz: :razz: :razz:

    Where is the smile for “i am taking the piss” that is needed for the last portion of my comment? (just before Megatron thinks I’m being serious.

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.02.10 14:58:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 30) : well dollie can’t be as [email protected] as monty dumond… :D

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.02.10 15:08:47 by Megatron Reply

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