The ghost of try time

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Written by cheers had fun (The ghost of try time)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 8 Mar 2010 at 07:38
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A film about a heroic bunch of men standing up against thousands. But also the game time it took Stefan Terblanche to realise he holds the key to Sharks’ success.

No one will dispute the fact that Stefan is probably the safest fullback in Super 14 rugby, but in the same breathe he is the most unimaginative. For 300 minutes this year he has kicked back valuable possession and consequently pinned the Sharks in their own half. For the first 60 minutes on Saturday Stefan kicked every ball he got, including two balls he kicked away while the Sharks were on attack in the Waratah’s half. An Aussie commentator said of a Waratah’s player during the game, “It is worrying when a player’s first instinct is to kick.” And this is so true about Stefan Terblanche. In the last 20 minutes of the game a tackle must have loosened some blockage in his brain and he started running the ball up field and suddenly the whole Sharks team seemed to light up and the team looked as if it had some venom. Imagine the possibilities if the Sharks started with a full back with a bit of vision.

There are other problems in the Sharks like Jannie du Plessis’ regular brainfarts, Ruan’s poor defence, JP’s lack of work ethic or Odwa’s lack of pace. But all these pale compared to Stefan’s reliance on his boot. Three Sharks’ losses out of four have been decided by referees, but as John Smit eluded to in the post match interview, referee decisions tend to go in favour of the team with the momentum, and out of the two jaded teams on Saturday, the Waratahs created a lot more with the ball they had.

The Sharks will turn the corner when Stefan is either replaced or he starts holding onto the ball and creating opportunities for his team. It does seem coincidental that the Sharks’ backline woes started when he took over at fullback. And during the 2009 Currie Cup when the backs had some life, it coincided with his increase in ball retention. It does make one wonder.



133 Comments

  • Love the title boet!!! :mrgreen: :cool:

    (now let me read the darn thing) :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.03.10 07:50:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) : :lol:

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.03.10 07:51:01 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 1) : i kept it short, like stefan’s time spent attacking. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.03.10 07:51:37 by try time Reply

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  • Dude I agree with your take on Stefan.

    I promise you I knew exactly what he was going to do whenever he got the ball… I was pleasantly surprised at how well he did when he eventually decided to run the ball back. :shock:

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.03.10 07:53:15 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 3) : :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.03.10 07:54:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : it was amazing how the whole team looked dangerous when he finally woke up. one man changed the whole teams effectiveness.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.03.10 07:57:38 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 6) :

    What did you think of Ruan’s performance??

    I think Rory should definitely start in the next game!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.03.10 08:02:17 by wpw Reply
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  • i have been saying all season, start with lambie. if he is out of his depth you can always bring stefan on. but at least try.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.03.10 08:02:52 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 7) : it is a tough call. ruan did get good ball to goode. but his defence was poor. but i blame this more on our loose forwards, they weren’t covering that channel well enough. it is also a problem when your eigthman thinks he is a back. this is why i want ryan put at first centre alberts moved to the back and deysel bought in. this is also ruans first game at scrumhalf in a while, the guy has to get his bearings. so this week i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.03.10 08:07:00 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : He reminds me of Jantjies….always an up and under when he got the ball and also very safe(read boring)

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.03.10 08:14:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Ruan looked like he would rather be somewhere else on saturday. His apparent lack of enthusiasm is baffeling. Jannie Dup really needs to get his head read.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.03.10 08:17:00 by billy Reply

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  • Louis Ludik needs only two more games then he should be right up there. I may cuase an uproar here……. but Ludik has got something of an Andre Joubert vibe about him….

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.03.10 08:18:46 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 12) : ludik has got balls. and he holds onto them. :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.03.10 08:20:58 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) :

    I think that was ONE season boet.

    Jantjes had a very good 2008 but when he joined the Boks he started with those up and unders!!

    I wonder if when he is due back from injury!! Would be very tough for him to make the side with Joe playing so well!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.03.10 08:22:21 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 14) : joe and even daniller showed on the weekend the value of carrying the ball up to your backline. if joe can keep it up, he will be in the bok squad.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.03.10 08:28:06 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 14) : True, not a lot of space for him in the Stormers backline at the moment. Kallie Woekie had a good game on Saturday as well. Looks like Burger will not be in trouble for that little incident with the ref….how stupid can you be :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.03.10 08:28:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) :

    I heard that Mark Lawrence says the incident was ‘nothing’ so I doubt Schalk will get into trouble!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.03.10 08:35:34 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 9) : I have a suggestion a few positional switches might solve the problems I think Ruan is still feeling himself and hence he was a bit off the defense on saturday but its better than him running sideways at f/h
    Back to my idea Move Oom to 12 Odwa to 15 and JP @ 14 opening up space for Mvovo on the left
    Oom’s defence is good and his ditribution is also good he has enough pace for 12 and is another boot in the line if we need one

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.03.10 08:37:30 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 18) : not bad idea, but stefan’s strength will be negated, and that is his excellent reading of the opposition. he knows where the ball is going to be kicked so he is valuable at the back. he just needs to hold onto the ball, and if he isn’t doing that at 15, why will he do it at 12?

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.03.10 08:40:22 by try time Reply

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  • Talking about fullbacks…Hennie Daniller had some game…
    Has he always had such a huge kicking boot? Have I never noticed or has he just turned a new leaf…
    And when he runs the other team always has a lot of work to do…
    And the best 15 under the high ball in the game….he leaps a head or two higher than any Canes player on Sat…
    SA best 15 at the moment by some margin….

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.03.10 08:41:22 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 20) :

    He had ONE decent game boet.

    Joe Pietersen has been more consistent AND he can kick at goal!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.03.10 08:44:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 20) : he has always had the boot. his weakness is his positional play and decision making speed. oh and the odd game his hands let him down. but overall he is a solid player.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.03.10 08:45:46 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 21) : i agree joe is the better player of the two, but that wasn’t the question. :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.03.10 08:46:57 by try time Reply

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  • And I know no one wants to bother talking about the LIONS….but what a 1st game back for Walter Venter…WoW…
    And that against a force like Mortlock…no easy feet….best 13 performance of the weekend first game back…
    He brought a new dynamic to the LIONS defense (which was the LIONS biggest problem)…

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.03.10 08:47:56 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 20) : He had a very good game but as wpw said that was 1 game and I still rate Riaan Viljoen.

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.03.10 08:48:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 21) :

    Nah don’t agree…Joe only kicks well at goal and had a few good runs but does not do that consistently enough…

    Joe has an accurate boot but wont win a kicking battle against most…
    And his defense is wanting (although I am impressed at the guts he puts in), he does get bumped off often…

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.03.10 08:50:43 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 24) : the lions have the talent. it is amazing to see the no namers and what they bring. once dick gets a feel of each player, and some combinations are settled on, expect a lions team with teeth. the sharks will actually catch the lions as they turn the corner.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.03.10 08:52:09 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 22) : I never noticed his boot…he kicked a few that were very close to 70/80 meters into touch…

    And he had a few runs and bounced off a few people…

    And the once he came running in from behind and leap over 3 Cane players…took the ball and still managed to placed the ball for the Cheetahs after going to ground and being outnumbered (well that could be cozz all the Canes went to ground too…

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.03.10 08:55:15 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 25) :

    Yeh I do rate Riaan as well…but I have never seen Riaan have a game like that…

    Hennie was a big difference in the game on Sat…

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.03.10 08:57:37 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 27) :

    Yeh I like the look of Mjekevu…but I fear he is a new age Brent Russel….he needs to work on defense and contact…

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.03.10 08:59:16 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 28) : oh i remembered daniller achilles heel. his defence. he leaks a lot of tries.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.03.10 09:02:14 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 27) : @Hmmm (Comment 30) :

    And I know everyone that reads this is going to fall off their chairs coming from me…but Doppies (yes I have dropped the r after the d)…where have you been hiding…

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.03.10 09:02:44 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 32) : he has always been there, he just hasn’t had quality around him to help him out.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.03.10 09:06:48 by try time Reply

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  • And another worth mentioning…
    Andries Bekker!!!!!

    He used to disappoint me in the lineout…though he could only run well with a ball…but he did nothing wrong and those passes…

    Great game Bekker…

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.03.10 09:06:59 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 32) :

    Doppies has been solid since last year’s Currie Cup but his distribution for an inside centre is not good imo.

    He is a poor man’s De Wet Barry!! :roll:

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.03.10 09:07:43 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 34) : why don’t you think of all the players that impress you and tell us? i am not going to comment on every single one you mention. :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.03.10 09:08:54 by try time Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 34) :

    Dude are you here to increase your user statistics?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.03.10 09:09:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 36) : :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.03.10 09:10:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 33) :

    I mean I thought is was just that the Stormers 12 is not that good yet and still new that Doppies could prevent him from even getting through once and breaking his defense a few times….
    But then he has repeated that for a few times…
    The rest of the team (including van Rensburg and the wings) have never heard of the word defense before though….lol) But must say against the Stormers and the Brumbies they defended well…

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.03.10 09:10:44 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 21) : I really like Joe, if he does not make the Bok squad in the near future then I don’t know. I feel for Jantjes thou, it will be very difficult for him to find his way back into the Stormers squad at the moment.

    By the way… with the RWC looming, will you put a player like Joe into the Bok squad rather sooner then later?? I think if he continues with his current form for the remainder of the S14 then you have to expose him to Test Rugby as soon as possible.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.03.10 09:12:30 by Farlington Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 37) :

    Oh dude…if I wanted to do that I’d be posting every week…for that matter at least every month…

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.03.10 09:12:57 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 34) : if you trying to get to one silver star, it isn’t worth the effort. one silver doesnt look as cool as five gold, and it is way too much work. :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.03.10 09:14:12 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 36) :

    LoL :grin:

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.03.10 09:14:15 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 39) :

    Are you referring to De Jongh??

    If so, he is actually an outside centre! He is in the team becos JDV has left and I think the coaching staff believe that he is too good to leave on the bench.

    He just needs to work on his distribution and maybe his kicking!!

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.03.10 09:14:34 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 42) :

    What is a silver star?

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.03.10 09:15:03 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 39) : good defence comes from settled combinations. the lions haven’t been settled for a while now. that should all change with dick.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.03.10 09:17:01 by try time Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 45) : look at wpw, he has one. our 5 stars look cooler than his one.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.03.10 09:17:42 by try time Reply

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  • From what we saw of Ludik on Saturday I wouldn’t be in any rush to hurry him into the Sharks side. He kicked poorly and twice wrongly decided to run it out of the 22 when he should have kicked.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.03.10 09:19:05 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 40) :

    I agree bru. I think we should try him at 15 now that Frans is unavailable (and seems to want to only play at 12) and the fact that Zane Kirchner has been average in the few tests he has played.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.03.10 09:19:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 40) : silly question. sooner is always better. he doesn’t have much competition at the moment. zane kirshner has been poor this season, and is out of his depth in the boks.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.03.10 09:21:44 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 42) :

    PLATINUM boet, PLATINUM!!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.03.10 09:22:24 by wpw Reply
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  • This tactic of kicking away everything came about because defences have been so difficult to break. Now that the breakdown laws favour the attacking side so heavily, the first team that realises that and retains possesion, will set the trend. I doubt the Sharks’s unimaginative coaching staff will do so but hopefully they’ll follow suit quickly once one of the teams do.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.03.10 09:23:39 by Flashman Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 51) : yeah yeah, keep telling yourself that. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.03.10 09:24:11 by try time Reply

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  • Ok Trytime…my SA team for the week…

    1. Wian Du Preez (C)
    2. Adrian Strauss (C)
    3. WP Nell (C)
    4. Anton v Zyl (S) (none played all that well though)
    5. Andries Bekker (S)
    6. Heindrich Brussouw (C) (But Schalk played really well too)
    7. Juan Smith (C) (had Deysel started it would be a tough call)
    8. Todd Clever (L)
    9. Sarel Pretorius (C)
    10. Naas Olivier (C) (surprise)
    11. Bryan Habana (S)
    12. Doppies Legrange (L) (Bosman anther surprise game)
    13. Walter Venter (L) (Fourie made too many mistakes the weekend)
    14. Lionel Mapoe (C) (although he showed this weekend that he seriously lacks pace)
    15. Hennie Daniller (C) (stand out…best 15 performance of the year of any game)

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.03.10 09:24:27 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 50) :

    snap!! ;-)

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.03.10 09:25:00 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 47) :

    Ja I saw that…but did not have the time to check what it was…

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.03.10 09:25:57 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 52) : yes but it was that tactic last year that killed the sharks play off hopes, because it meant we weren’t getting bonus points and we threw away games due to our players being burnt out from having to defend a lot. everything in moderation.

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.03.10 09:26:27 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 47) :

    It does though…

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.03.10 09:27:07 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 54) :

    Adi ahead of Venter
    Deon Fourie ahead of Strauss
    Bosman was immense for the Cheetahs (espec his kicking at goal)
    Joe ahead of Daniller

    :twisted:

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.03.10 09:29:55 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 57) :

    But with the overseas players getting a lifeline we would def see Frans in the mix again…

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.03.10 09:30:26 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 54) : you have to put a few sharks forwards in there. yes they did lose, but it was more the backline (or stefan rather) that let the team down. a player that i disagree with is naas ahead of grant. i felt grant was solid, and broke the advantage line a lot. grants weakness is his tactical kicking.

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.03.10 09:32:01 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 50) : As I said expose him to test rugby asap. But alas… we are not one of the selectors and can only hope that his great form is rewarded.

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.03.10 09:33:12 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 60) : you’ll only find overseas players being selected in areas where there is a shortage. like flyhalf and tighthead.

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.03.10 09:33:54 by try time Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 62) : p div likes his province players, he just has had very little to choose until now.

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.03.10 09:35:24 by try time Reply

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  • Just made my LMS pick for this coming weekend’s matches!!!

    I still have my lifeline!! WHOOP WHOOP!! :mrgreen: :cool:

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.03.10 09:35:32 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 59) :

    Actually I agree with you on Deon Fourie…

    Adi was my 4th best SA 13 of the weekend…
    Mentioned Bosman but will still pick Doppies (and it seems 37% of the voters agree with me on Sport24 team of the tournament)
    Joe ahead of Hennie for THIS weekends games!??! You drunk again!??! (And I am neutral here as neither are in my team)…

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.03.10 09:36:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 59) : i agree with deon, he had a big game.

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.03.10 09:36:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 64) :

    Not true boet.

    Deysel ahead of Vermeulen for the Boks is just plain ridiculous!!

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.03.10 09:37:48 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 61) :

    But not a single player stood out…only Deylsel…but he did not start…
    And Grant was solid…but Naas had a run or two and kicked brilliantly…also solid on defense…
    So I wouldn’t select Grant ahead…

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.03.10 09:39:44 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 68) : i am not looking at the boks now, that is distant future. i am (and so is hmmm) talking of team of the week.

  • Comment 70, posted at 08.03.10 09:39:52 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 68) : :?: :?: i never said anything about deysel.

  • Comment 71, posted at 08.03.10 09:40:47 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 63) :

    And fullback!!!!

  • Comment 72, posted at 08.03.10 09:41:48 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 70) :

    Yes WPW….TEAM of the WEEK
    No wonder your Joe pick makes no sense at all

  • Comment 73, posted at 08.03.10 09:43:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 69) : the sharks scrum held up well to the aussies best. you can’t say hurricanes or highlanders have a flash tight 5. and the sharks had good lineouts. you can’t have a team of linebreakers and try scorers, you need your workhorses in the team to get the ball for the show ponies.

  • Comment 74, posted at 08.03.10 09:43:52 by try time Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 72) : definitely not stefan. daniller shone against the tougher team, so i’ll give it to him.

  • Comment 75, posted at 08.03.10 09:45:34 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 70) : :roll:

    Sorry!!! :|

  • Comment 76, posted at 08.03.10 09:46:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 35) :

    Well in that case Joe is a gay-mans Percy

  • Comment 77, posted at 08.03.10 09:47:11 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 76) : no stress, that is why you have one silver star and we have 5 gold stars. :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 78, posted at 08.03.10 09:48:16 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 74) :

    That is why I picked Juan…and Anton…
    No one in the Sharks front row did very well…
    And the Cheetahs scrummed against Tialata and Hore…the Canes forwards had a good time against all teams they played this year…

  • Comment 79, posted at 08.03.10 09:50:43 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 78) : :roll: :cry:

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.03.10 09:52:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 78) :

    LoL :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 81, posted at 08.03.10 09:54:21 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 79) : ok we’ll have to compare when sharks play hurricanes in a few weeks. :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 08.03.10 09:54:22 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 82) :

    I guess!??!

  • Comment 83, posted at 08.03.10 09:57:16 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 82) :

    On Sports24 (news24) S14 SA team of the week (where viewers vote)…Naas got 66% of the votes….

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.03.10 10:00:23 by Hmmm Reply

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  • comment of the week has to be the aussie at the start of the sharks waratahs game about andy goode, “he is the only player in the super 14 with a comb over.” funny enough phil waugh looks like he has one.

  • Comment 85, posted at 08.03.10 10:13:22 by try time Reply

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  • By the way did anybody else hear the Aussue commentators talking about the Dup brothers possibly playing for Melbourne next year? Any truth to this rumour? :shock:

  • Comment 86, posted at 08.03.10 10:18:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 86) : i missed that.

  • Comment 87, posted at 08.03.10 10:19:45 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 85) :

    I also laughed at that comment.

    The Aussie commentators are BIASED though and they’re not afraid to show it!! :evil:

  • Comment 88, posted at 08.03.10 10:23:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 87) : yeah – it’s a rumour I’ve heard before. Will write something about it in a little bit

  • Comment 89, posted at 08.03.10 10:26:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 88) : yeah like that second try that couldn’t be called. even the tmo, wasn’t sure when he said the try could be awarded. you could hear it in his voice.

  • Comment 90, posted at 08.03.10 10:27:35 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 89) : not wise for bis to move before rwc. but i suppose their logic is that aussie teams are playing in the same tournie so he will still get called up. what they don’t realise is p div will use the sa pool part of the tournie to compare his players.

  • Comment 91, posted at 08.03.10 10:29:55 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 88) : so is joel, he is biased towards any team playing an sa team.

  • Comment 92, posted at 08.03.10 10:30:52 by try time Reply

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  • i suppose i should give adi the credit when it is due. i have been hard on the guy, but he looked solid at 13 on saturday. i am always scared to compliment players though, cos they usually have a shocker in the next game.

  • Comment 93, posted at 08.03.10 10:46:20 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 92) :

    I know but Joel is just a tool!!! :| :twisted:

  • Comment 94, posted at 08.03.10 10:46:21 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 94) : and the aussie commentators aren’t? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 95, posted at 08.03.10 10:46:58 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 95) :

    They are far worse. :mrgreen:

    Joel is a tool becos he knocks teams from his own country!!

  • Comment 96, posted at 08.03.10 10:54:36 by wpw Reply
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  • this site is quietish today. i suppose a lot of people feel like i felt yesterday. totally despondent. i almost never came on the site this week. i was so sick of the same old shit. but then i thought back on the game and picked up how stefan had changed the sharks fortunes, so i had to share it.

  • Comment 97, posted at 08.03.10 10:55:35 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 96) : good point. that deserves an extra silver star. :lol:

  • Comment 98, posted at 08.03.10 10:56:17 by try time Reply

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  • actually looking at everyne online, most support other teams. come on sharks supporters, don’t be spoil sports. :lol: ;-)

  • Comment 99, posted at 08.03.10 10:57:57 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 97) :

    I think Bismarck also made an impact when he came on!!

  • Comment 100, posted at 08.03.10 10:59:36 by wpw Reply
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  • yeah i was thinking that when hmmm wanted a shark for his team. i am not saying john was poor, it is tough to compare because john was on against the waraths starters. bis did come on when a number of waratah forwards had been replaced and stefan had stopped kicking away possession. so you can’t really compare. but bis is a good player.

  • Comment 101, posted at 08.03.10 11:03:18 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 100) : he did. Bissie was huge.

  • Comment 102, posted at 08.03.10 11:04:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • actually talking about deon and bis, it would be dumb for bis to consider going to aus before the rwc with deon fourie and gary botha both putting in good games.

  • Comment 103, posted at 08.03.10 11:05:15 by try time Reply

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  • jannie did well in the scrum, but why does the fool always have to do such stupid things. in saying that the waratah 10 should have been cited for turning rugby into a poefter sport like football. that was a shocking dive, and he should be ashamed of calling himself a rugby player.

  • Comment 104, posted at 08.03.10 11:10:57 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 104) :

    What pissed me off was that Jannie was smiling when he did it!!

  • Comment 105, posted at 08.03.10 11:17:56 by wpw Reply
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  • Aussie commentators are now starting to call the playerrs on a first name omly basis….Berrick this and Phil that.

    The most biased Ive heard was after the Stormers / Brumbies game when Skinstad was interviewing some Stormers players and kept on using “we” when referring to the Stormers.

  • Comment 106, posted at 08.03.10 11:29:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 102) : Is that you Rob :?: :?:

  • Comment 107, posted at 08.03.10 11:36:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 92) : Except the Bulls. Joel just looooves them. To think I called him my World Cup winning Flyhalf. Never again.

  • Comment 108, posted at 08.03.10 11:47:36 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 107) : hey – I always acknowledge good play when I see it. You guys seem to think I have a bizarre agenda here, whereas all I really want is for the Sharks to do well

  • Comment 109, posted at 08.03.10 11:47:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 107) :
    And on Saturday he said he would support the Bulls…… :?:

  • Comment 110, posted at 08.03.10 11:48:25 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 108) :
    Weirdly, Bulls supporters on Keo think that Stransky hates them.

  • Comment 111, posted at 08.03.10 11:50:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 110) : he he… yes, I will admit to having turned over a new leaf in that respect. You may not like the fans (on average) but the Bulls as a team are worth of respect, if nothing more.

  • Comment 112, posted at 08.03.10 11:50:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 108) : you are right. he doesn’t hide that. especially if the sharks play the bulls.

  • Comment 113, posted at 08.03.10 11:52:01 by try time Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 111) : he may hate bulls supporters but definitely not the team.

  • Comment 114, posted at 08.03.10 11:52:40 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 107) : yeah it is robs split personality at work again. he says that, but then writes a scathing article about the brothers. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 115, posted at 08.03.10 11:54:16 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 112) : :shock: :shock: :roll:

    Who are you and what have you done with Rob?? :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 116, posted at 08.03.10 11:54:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : He was huge last week againt the Crusaders as well. It’s always difficult to focus on all the players during a game, but I had a good look at Kanko this weekend and he is always accused of not getting involved in the rough stuff but I was impressed. He put in a lot of tackles and generally is playing some great rugby at the moment. And he is fast..Drew Michell didn’t make any ground on him for his intercept try. I think TT is right, he’d make a great centre.
    @Salmonoid (Comment 110) : :shock:

  • Comment 117, posted at 08.03.10 11:54:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : yes yes rob. we believe you. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 118, posted at 08.03.10 11:55:01 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 117) : the sharks are now effectively out the competition, they might as well experiment a little before super 15.

  • Comment 119, posted at 08.03.10 11:57:06 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 115) : I’m sure there is treatment for Bi-polar disease :mrgreen:

  • Comment 120, posted at 08.03.10 11:58:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 119) : And Craig Burden at openside flank

  • Comment 121, posted at 08.03.10 11:59:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 120) : :lol: :lol: drugs, lots of drugs. :lol: :lol: but sometimes it is drugs that cause it. :lol:

  • Comment 122, posted at 08.03.10 12:04:10 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 121) : or bis.

  • Comment 123, posted at 08.03.10 12:07:22 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 123) : Maybe, censored, censored…..can’t really say what I really think cause I might just get personal about a player :mrgreen:

  • Comment 124, posted at 08.03.10 12:12:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 124) : :grin: :grin: can’t have that.

  • Comment 125, posted at 08.03.10 12:13:53 by try time Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 105) : sheez, i was peeved when i saw the waratahs guy take a dive. but i was supermal when i saw jannies smirk. if you look at the replay, the touch judge put the flag out long after the incident. i think initially he thought nothing of it then he saw jannie’s face, and saw the intention. the waratahs blocked a few sharks on saturday but they all made sure they had their backs to the player, or act as if it wasn’t intentional. not jannie.

  • Comment 126, posted at 08.03.10 12:18:46 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 126) : what does “supernal” mean?

  • Comment 127, posted at 08.03.10 12:29:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 127) : “supermal” should have a space. super mal. :lol:

  • Comment 128, posted at 08.03.10 12:31:37 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 128) : in Afr it wouldn’t have a space…in eng there would be a space …a combo of afr end eng I don’t know :lol:

  • Comment 129, posted at 08.03.10 12:52:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 129) : ok so i am half right. :lol:

  • Comment 130, posted at 08.03.10 12:56:37 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 128) : I misread it too… thought the “m” was an “n” :)

  • Comment 131, posted at 08.03.10 13:10:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 104) : Definitely behaved like a footballer! Doesn’t excuse Jannie’s behaviour though – let us all down but most of all put the boys on the field under huge pressure. Hope he gets disciplined for that.

  • Comment 132, posted at 08.03.10 13:16:26 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • I think Terblanche might be lazy, coastal cancer got the better of him (ie. worry about it tomorrow).

    Ruan is shoddy on defense, but gets the ball to the backline super fast, he makes a decision and sticks with it. Rory is a bit slow and tends to endlessly keep the ball with the forwards which allows Jannie to cock it up-again.

  • Comment 133, posted at 08.03.10 15:30:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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