Ludik’s poison is meat for Hargreaves

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14, Vodacom Cup on 10 Mar 2010 at 10:11
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I need to correct something I wrote yesterday. Alistair Hargreaves is not replacing Wilhelm Steenkamp in the Sharks touring party. Rather, he is taking up the vacant 26th spot which was being reserved for Louis Ludik.

A report on Keo this morning quotes Hugh Reece-Edwards as saying that Ludik will go back into rehabilitation – this after reporting swelling in the knee he injured 8 months ago. The exciting fullback tore ligaments against the British and Irish Lions last year and the Sharks realised when taking him on that he may still spend a lengthy period on the sidelines. Ludik has taken the field for the Sharks XV for the last two weeks but the decision has now been made to pull him from further match action for the foreseeable future.

My understanding is that the 26th place in the tour party was intended for Ludik and that the intention was for him to prove his fitness in the Vodacom Cup before flying over. That dream has now been dashed – hence the decision to send Hargreaves instead. The lock forward should have been in the tour party all along, of course, making his call-up long overdue.

A bit of reshuffling in the Sharks XV ranks is now inevitable, of course. Chris Jordaan and Jandre Marais should come into the starting lineup for Ludik and Hargreaves respectively, with Meyer Swanepoel and possibly Rosco Speckman coming onto the bench. Luvo Lusaseni is a further injury concern and should he not recover in time to face Free State, Lambert Groenewald will probably come into the 15. Sean Everitt has pretty big pool of loose forward replacements to choose from, with Skollie Ndlovu or Renaldo Bothma the most likely candidates for a spot in the 22.


  • Bummed for Ludik but i guess caution now will hoefully benefit us later in the year.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.03.10 10:14:11 by billy Reply
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  • but why even waste the money sending hargreaves if he is going to just carry bags. unless muller’s shoulder is a concern.

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.03.10 10:15:47 by try time Reply
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  • Yep… I’m glad they did not rush him into the S14 squad. Hopefully we will benefit from this during the CC. I just hope that it’s not anything serious.

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.03.10 10:17:27 by Farlington Reply
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  • yeah, this is the right thing to do. You don’t mess around with ACL injuries. Could ruin the player’s future career.

    This is bad news for the Sharks because we wanted Ludik for the Super 14, but we’ll just have to vasbyt for now

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.03.10 10:26:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Aren’t you guys really glad now that the whole contract debacle worked out in your favour? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.03.10 11:09:25 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 5) : That having been said, I do however wish Louis well, he has the potential to be a great fullback, and when fully fit will make the Bok FB position his own

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.03.10 11:14:33 by Greg Reply

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  • Wow, the Sharks are having so much bad luck its scary!!! :???:

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.03.10 11:24:35 by wpw Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 6) :

    Not if Joe Pietersen continues his great form for WP/Stormers!! :twisted:

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.03.10 11:25:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 6) : thanks for that… cos comment 5 came across as just a little mean-spirited. I really hope that none of us would ever wish an injury on any player, regardless of which team they represent.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.03.10 11:27:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : No… we keep those kind of wishes for referees.(Particularly the Aussies) :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.03.10 12:02:33 by Farlington Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Rob, I am a big fan of Louis, irrespective of which shirt he wears, and cannot wait to see him wear the green and gold one. Comment 5 was said with tongue firmly in cheek. I personally believe he made a mistake moving, and had Kevin taken over a little sooner, he may have been convinced to stay. Had Manie left, I am convinced he would have stayed. Playing under the Bok backline coach would have done his game a lot of good.

    @wpw (Comment 8) : Joe Pietersen is having a great season so far, agreed, and his edge over Louis is his kicking game, especailly his place kicking. With Morne Steyn in the Bok starting line up, however, you don’t really need a fullback that takes the kick at the posts

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.03.10 13:42:47 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 11) : There is a lot of competition for that 15 jersey and I hope Ludick can recover quick enough to stake a claim. Pieterson, Riaan Viljoen,Kirshner, Daniller and Janjies will probably start playing again sometime soon. And you can add Frans Steyn to that list IF PdV changes his mind about overseas players

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.03.10 13:48:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @ 10 – Pokkel, sorry want to answer to your post but clicking on the arrow there now working.

    Joe from Stormers so far is looking the best. I still think PdV would be a fool not to keep Frans Steyn at FB even if he is playing overseas. Would love to see Ludik eventually playing to see what he can do. He will miss out for next year (wc) if that knee does not heal proper.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.03.10 16:23:10 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 13) :

    If PDV selects overseas based players dont you think that most players will leave our shores to earn pounds and euros??

    There will be logistical nightmares too!!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.03.10 16:55:07 by wpw Reply
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  • Can’t believe HRE is still with the Sharks, is he now training the Sharks XV? Would explain the loss to Problems.

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.03.10 17:54:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 15) : nah… nothing to do with him. I’ve heard he’s being well-received by the players and having a positive impact.

    The loss to Problems was as a result of going in undercooked after a romp in the park against Border

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.03.10 19:45:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’m still watching the VC game and I have to say Ludik is not his former self yet, but I’m sure he’ll get there. As for Hargo, I hope he plays ahead of Steenkamp.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.03.10 21:00:23 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : Wish the same could be said for the Sharks S14 team. Seems HRE is cursed or something, every time he gets involved in Sharks rugby, the bottom of the log invites us for a braai.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.03.10 21:01:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 17) : Why they left Hargs in the first place is a mystery to me, even though he pretty much sucked against the tjietas, they should develop him for the Sharks and not invest in a Bulls lock….stupid.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.03.10 21:05:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 19) : I wish people will stop judging the players on 1 or 2 games. We all know he can play. I want all our youngsters to get chances to show their worth. Go Guppies!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.03.10 21:13:03 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 12) : Get real guys this is SA. Kirshner is set in stone untill Jantjies is back then we might have some sort of competition for fullback. Also wp would probably move Joe to wing when Jantjies gets back, thereby effectively nullifying his chances for higher honours.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.03.10 07:57:00 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 21) :

    Like he was set in stone last year??

    Kirchner deserved his call up based on S14 form. He didn’t take his chances and that is why Frans replaced him.

    I think De Jongh will be the surprise selection for the Bok tour group. I believe the Bok coaching staff rates him very highly.

    Joe will more than likely stay at 15 and Jantjes will have to play from the bench.

    Dude, do you really think Coetzee is going to drop/move his first choice 15 (and goal kicker) for Jantjes??

    Not in a million years!! :grin:

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.03.10 08:14:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : He`ll move him to wing . . . you read it here first. Bye Bye Aplon.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.03.10 08:23:50 by Original Pierre Reply
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