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Is this justice?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 11 Mar 2010 at 06:00
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Australian referee Paul Marks has been weighed by his peers and found wanting. The assessment of his performances to date has proved unsatisfactory and in the words of SANZAR refereeing chairman Lyndon Bray, he will “not easily” be selected to referee again in this year’s competition.

Now SANZAR and Bray have taken a bold step here – usually these sorts of things happen behind closed doors without the greater rugby-watching public ever knowing anything about them. For the reffing community to actually stand up and admit that one of their own stuffed up badly enough to be stood down is quite a momentous thing. Then again, it was done in response to a travesty of momentous proportions and my argument is that this action does not go anywhere near far enough.

Let’s call a spade a shovel here. Marks has been effectively suspended for the frankly ridiculous decision not to award the Sharks a penalty try in the dying moments of last weekend’s game against the Waratahs. Bray can wrap this up in as much fancy language as he likes, but the reality is, were it not for that utter shocker of a decision, all of Marks’ other transgressions would have been overlooked. Now while it is a positive thing for the Super 14 as a whole that we will no longer be subjected to the particular brand of idiocy that Marks brings, for the Sharks, this must feel like a very hollow victory indeed.

What exactly are SANZAR saying here? Paul Marks made a horribly, horribly wrong call at a crucial moment of the game and that call essentially ensured that the wrong team won – the wrong team walked away with 4 log points. SANZAR has tacitly admitted that the call was horribly wrong and made the decision to suspend the ref. But what if those log points – wrongly awarded – now go on to be decisive in deciding a semi-final spot (or, perhaps even more pertinently, a side’s relegation from super rugby)?

Surely the right thing to do here, since SANZAR have already admitted that the call was wrong, is to overturn the result of the match and award the win to the Sharks? It’s never been done, sure, but following this matter to its logical conclusion, it’s the only course of action that is internally consistent and makes an iota of sense.



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  • I would like to see that happen but legally im not sure it can. But its the right thing to do
    Walshie is next

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.03.10 06:51:08 by Fattmann Reply
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  • I don’t think it will EVER happen, just like the irish are STILL crying about not making the SWC due to a refereeing error.

    Shit happens, you can make as many anti-french Facebook groups as you like and bitch as much as you like FIFA ain’t even going to allow the match to be replayed let alone overturn the result.

    Same thing with Sanzar, I have never heard of a match result being changed, I don’t think we ever will.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.03.10 07:02:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • That said.

    Now we can act like Bulls fans for the rest of the season after that Ndungane try/non try way back when. We can keep refering to this eerytime someone tries to take us on about our team’s performance.

    We can change our slogan to “We woulda won one more, nothing else matters” :razz:

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.03.10 07:09:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I am looking forward to watching ‘Walshie’s’ performance when he officiates the Stormers vs Hurricanes match.

    That man is one arrogant bloke!! :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.03.10 07:16:41 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) :

    Well, if they can do it in Formula 1 racing then surely…. :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.03.10 07:19:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    And Wait there is more, if you act right now……. Not only will you be able to use Marks but you can also use Pro. :razz: (Can I go into tele marketing? :lol: )

    Pro Legoete cost us the match against the Cheetahs. When Kaplan had to “run” at half time Pro took over and cost us the game.

    Pro Legoete has also been stood down indefinitely.

    In the 1st half of that Game JK penalised the Cheetahs for early engage 3 times and gave them a warning. in the 2nd half (not so) Pro let them do it all the time.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.03.10 07:26:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : you’ve got a definite future in Tele marketing…I suggest you give glomail a call……too funny.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.03.10 07:30:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Now why was the same process not applied to Brown-nose…..always suspect how the kiwi refereeing blunders are swept under the carpet….even old Walshie’s story was only made known recently.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.03.10 07:32:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : I don`t think Walsh would make too many waves this weekend. Remember stormers aren`t playing against his beloved Brumbies . . .

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.03.10 07:42:47 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • I don’t however believe a game’s result should be decided behind closed doors….

    That might just give precedent to a Monday citing commission which will award points and games according to the referees performance, as apposed to the teams playing the game.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.03.10 07:44:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I think Im going to get a lot of stick here…..
    But I do not agree to overturn the log points and award them to the Sharks. Suspend Marks yes, do not allow him to ref again. In other words, let him become Shaun Veldsman the second. But I do not agree to award the log points to the Sharks. Maybe I will swallow my words when we are relegated out of the S15???

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.03.10 07:46:08 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • My BIG worry is that we have another S14 newby reffing us this weekend.

    Brumbies vs Sharks in Canberra
    Referee: Garratt Williamson (New Zealand)

    Never heard of him before

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.03.10 07:51:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Anybody heard anything about Odwa’s injury?
    I do not hope any injury on to any player, but damn, it will be great to see Zuks or Mvovs on the wing :idea: :idea: :idea:

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.03.10 07:55:48 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Okay it`s Thursday! Team announcement guys?

    Probable team:

    Stefan, Murray, Adi, Swanepoel, JP, Goode, Pienaar, Kankow, Deysel, Muller, Sykes, Botes, Smit, Yellow Bismarck, Beast

    Not sure about the replacements though . . .

    What do you guys think?

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.03.10 08:02:03 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 13) :

    Isn’t Zuks in SA?? :???:

    I am sure he is not with the team at the moment (he played for the SharksXV last weekend didn’t he??)

    Oh my hat, I’m beginning to sound like a Sharks supporter :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.03.10 08:04:00 by wpw Reply
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  • What i cannot understand, is that if this sport is truely professional as it claims to be, then how can such an utter disregard of the rules shown by marks’ in the last game, not be subject to legal action from the union?

    For example, say two companies go to court over some sort of issue, and the judge makes a judgement in favour of company A. Company B’s lawyers appeal, saying the judge made an incorrect decision due to him not taking into consideration laws 1, 2 and 3. The case is then reviewed taking these laws into account, and the decision is changed, and the case is won by Company B. Why should this not be the case for the Sharks?

    Everyone says these decisions shouldn’t be made behined closed doors. Truth is, this is a professional business, with alot of money involved, and the game has to be played to a certain set of rules. When these rules are not adhered to, the business on the wrong side of these incorrect rulings is legally allowed to appeal the decision anyway they can, and if that means going to court and ordering a rematch, or possibly giving the points to the sharks, then so be it.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.03.10 08:05:08 by justinwhufc Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 14) :

    I wish they would start with Rory. :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.03.10 08:06:38 by wpw Reply
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  • There is an article on KEO saying that Marks is fired.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.03.10 08:07:40 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Can’t possibly overturn the result. It would set a very dangerous precedent.

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.03.10 08:16:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 18) : The same KEO IDIOT that said that Marks made the correct call in not awarding a penalty try :evil:

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.03.10 08:28:37 by Charlie Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) : I agree but the positive from this is that the other referees will think very carefully before making crap decisions

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.03.10 08:30:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I wrote an email to Andre Watson on Tuesday -this was the response I got…(yes I was VERY emotional in the email – imagine if I wrote it on Monday…)

    “I am reluctant to answer statements based on emotion that suggests refs cheat. Some are not up to the required standard yes, like the man on Saturday and he has been removed from the panel for 2010.”

    kind regards/beste groete,

    Andre Watson

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.03.10 08:35:52 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Rob,

    I have to strongly disagree with you here.

    There are so many things in rugby that contributes to an overall result.

    Mistakes are made by all individuals on the field at various times, and yes, although some mistakes carries a larger ‘penalty’ to the offending party through whatever result is achieved, it makes it no less a mistake – human error.

    A high tackle in your own 22, or in the opposition 22 is still a high tackle, but the one might cost you 3 points.

    I could well argue that the Sharks should never have been in a position where they were 4 points behind with 10 minutes to go, through silly, crucial mistakes they made during the 80 minutes of the match, so why should the result of the match come down to one specific mistake by the referee when so many others were made that also had a crucial outcome on the game or the match situation?

    The decision by the referee’s panel here should be loudly applauded, not cynically questioned.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.03.10 08:39:52 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 23) : I agree imagine teams questioning results every Monday due to bad refereeing decisions. It will result in chaos. This will make the referees realise that they need to be more accurate though.

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.03.10 08:45:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 20) : Don’t we just it when our enemies makes an arse of themselves, same as that Spiro ozzie creature. Good times are back again :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.03.10 08:48:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Rob – seriously overturn points? I think you need your head read.

    Every team is subjected to bad calls by refs. You guys aren’t so special – it just galls you because you haven’t got a decent result which quite frankly had more to do with the Sharks being ill disciplined and generally rubbbish.

    I agree with Morne in #23

    “The decision by the referee’s panel here should be loudly applauded, not cynically questioned.”

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.03.10 08:50:42 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 24) :

    Which is why the new system the referees use should be applauded – finally there is some accountability and that is what we always asked for.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.03.10 08:51:02 by Morné Reply
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  • Morning everyone. Only have a few min before having to go out. Just needed to answer this.

    Rob yes, I agree. I said it while blogging on Saturday that the one way to stop this utter useless reffing, is to reverse the points that should have gone to the team in the first place. That will stop this nonsense. So one team that should win lose and the one that should have lost wins!!!!!!!!! IT IS WRONG. Something has to be done about it. I would say BRING IT ON and let us get it started. Cite the ref and the wrong calls and get the points reversed to the team that actually should have got the points.

    Next should be Walsh, he done the Lions in too.

    Look I know nothing like this will ever happen, but maybe one day it will. Remember that try before halftime was not a try either, so tell me now why was that TMO not dropped as well? He had access to see that over and over and awarded a try when the ball was never grounded and not ever over the tryline!!!!!!!!! :shock: I say enough, is enough with this bad reffing. It is costing the team and more so this beautiful game we all love. They have to sort it out. Now we know how the kiwis felt in the wc 2007. No-one wants that sort of thing to happen again.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.03.10 08:51:43 by Puma Reply

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  • Would love to see Spiro’s response to this! :grin:

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.03.10 08:53:09 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 24) : Morning Pokkel, Just the bigg calls should be cited. Like that penalty try and the TMO giving the try at halftime when it was never even grounded. Other bad calls probably will just have to live with them. But blatant bad calls like not giving penalty try.,when everyone around the the S14 world watching on tv and the stadium could see it should have been a penalty try. Yes, those calls should be cited.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.03.10 09:00:15 by Puma Reply

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  • Cheers all out of here now.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.03.10 09:00:55 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 30) : It’s great that referees are being held accountable but I still think overturning results is not the answer.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.03.10 09:08:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : Bray pulled Brown from a game or 2 because of his performance re-training first season

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.03.10 09:09:08 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : There are just to many variables in a game to overturn a decision because of one bad call.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.03.10 09:09:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 28) :

    So you want to punish a team (overturn a decision, take log points away) because of a mistake a referee, not the team made???

    What is the sense in that?

    Unless a ref blatently cheats, accepts money on the side or throws games that is a bit silly (even if it is found he deliberately cheats).

    I refuse to believe that refs will blatently cheat to influence results.

    What should we give back world cups now too because referees and umpires and cricket gets one decision wrong in a blink of a second?

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.03.10 09:09:40 by Morné Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 34) : yes – you are right. Even if he had awarded the try and the Sharks had taken the lead, Mark would have found a penalty for the Tahs somewhere in the last minute!

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.03.10 09:10:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 32) : Agreed.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.03.10 09:11:57 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • What saved Walshie in my opinion was that he admitted he was over zealous in awarding the penalties and admitted to the error of the penalty try I think he is on a shrt very short rope

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.03.10 09:13:33 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.03.10 09:23:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 38) : What?! he actually admitted to it? Well he’ll know the first step to recovering is to admit you have a problem… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.03.10 09:26:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Nice to know that he has been stood down for his awful performance. I would like to see a review of all of his decisions and the justification for making those decisions.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.03.10 09:31:39 by lostfish Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) : Agree, as much as it would make me feel better in the long run it would be detrimental to the game.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.03.10 09:35:02 by billy Reply

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  • This is nice, very nice. Cant wait to see what happens next :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.03.10 09:38:57 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Why has it not been questioned that Terblanche should have passed the ball earlier .. he waited till the last ‘possible’ moment to pass when the overlap was there for the taking ..

    Asking for points to be reversed is stupid ..its not gonna happen.And it should’nt.

    We’ve been wanting refs to be held accountable for sometime
    and now its being done out in the open this should be welcomed with open arms.

    Hopefully the rude bastard Walsh is next :evil:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.03.10 09:39:59 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 44) : I have questioned it on a different thread. Stefan should have either passed earlier or sold a dummy….I wasn’t all that popular for it.

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.03.10 09:46:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 45) :

    It should be Q?,I shouted for him to pass it was as clear as daylight.Lets say Beale manages to catch Kanko then Kanko could have passed back inside to Stefan .. I know.. assumptions … but there was no other Tah player in sight other than Beale.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.03.10 09:50:17 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • Rob, it’s a bit like saying a player committed a foul play, lost the game for his team, got cited so let’s reply the game without him.
    It’s not gonna happen.

    No bdays for such a long time. :roll:

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.03.10 09:50:37 by rekinek Reply
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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 44) : Terblanche did not pass earlier in order to pull the defender which was Beale, Beale was supposed to go for Terblanche, sadly being an ozzie, his first instinct was to cheat.

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.03.10 09:53:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 48) :

    Im sorry I disagree watch it again Beale was drawn and static unless he is that rubber dude from the fantastic four he would not have caught Kanko in full flight ..

    Just to be clear I do agree Beale cheated.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.03.10 09:58:48 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 49) : Let me rephrase, I think pulling the defender was Terblanche’s intention by holding his pass till the last second….

    I do think Beale wasn’t certain on whether he should go for Blanche or for Kanko due to the delayed pass, hind sight an early pass might have been better, but I don’t think Blanche should be blamed.

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.03.10 10:05:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 50) :

    Agreed ! Terblanche can’t be blamed its so easy for me sitting at home to say should have could have ..
    I am a brilliant rugby player on my couch .. ;-)

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.03.10 10:15:16 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • The best news in a long time.

    Proves that Sharks supporters across the globe possess the awesomest, most superior rugby knowledge, vision and kick-ass common sense.

    We don’t get the points, but we get the noddy badge.

    Yoohoo!

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.03.10 10:17:45 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 52) : I’ve shined my badge three times already today, it’s so pretty….still waiting on my noddy badge for the Chiefs game though :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.03.10 10:20:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Woohoo! Skid-Marks is where he belongs. On the underpants of society instead of reffing and destroying games.

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.03.10 10:21:31 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 51) : And a brilliant ref too….. :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.03.10 10:23:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 55) :

    :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.03.10 10:38:23 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : :lol: @CapeShark (Comment 54) : :lol:

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.03.10 10:39:16 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Why does Plum always take this long with the team announcement?!

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.03.10 10:57:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • SHARKS TEAM ONLY TO BE MADE KNOWN TOMORROW ACCORDING TO MVOVO. Maybe we see some surprises? They are around 8 or 9 hours ahead of us and we still get the team late, man that sucks!

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.03.10 11:04:43 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 59) : Word is also that Odwa looks fine

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.03.10 11:11:36 by Miguel Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 59) : sharks team is up on sharks site, and i cant say im happy with it, keagen and odwa is in

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.03.10 11:12:02 by willa Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 59) : Damnit, wonder if they’re that desperate to get Odwa in the team? Waiting to hear his fitness report, or is Plum playing psychological games with the guys.

    Who knows what the plan is, maybe they’re trying to blind side the Brumbles with a selection surprise.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.03.10 11:14:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 61) : Jannie is not starting that is a plus and Burden might get a go which is cool as well

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.03.10 11:14:45 by Miguel Reply
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  • also smit back to 1, with bis on, but still no youngsters

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.03.10 11:14:45 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 64) : smit at 3 bru, Beasty back at 1

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.03.10 11:15:39 by Miguel Reply
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  • Steenkamp dropped for Hargs, thought Muller wasn’t playing? Might Rob’s initial report have been true? Seems it was.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.03.10 11:17:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Miguel (Comment 63) : dont like deysel on the bench, dont rate alistar at all,but im not all to negative :grin:

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.03.10 11:18:27 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 61) : Really, surprising that the players hear about it after us or maybe Lwazi was playing games? I gonns check it out now, thanks.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.03.10 11:19:08 by JJR Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 65) : ja sorry, but u know what i meant :oops:

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.03.10 11:19:29 by willa Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 69) : man i hear you big time i would go 6. deysel, 7. willem and 8. kanko

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.03.10 11:24:53 by Miguel Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 70) : I third that, but what do we know….we’re only able to make good judgement calls on bad refs, not on which team to play.

    Plum could have the biggest board of advisors free of charge, he only has to come make a turn here on the site. Silly boy

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.03.10 11:29:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 71) : haha yeah man! I think Plum is just a little to scared to try new things, he is much to conservative in his selection!

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.03.10 11:38:36 by Miguel Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 18) :

    It’s KEO what do you expect just being dropped from the S14 isn’t sensationalistic enough for them. :lol:

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.03.10 12:27:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 20) :

    If I bothered reading the smut channel of Rugby then i’d take the twit on about it myself.

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.03.10 12:32:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : Interesting how KEO was convinced in his expert opinion that the penalty try shouldn’t have been awarded.
    Now that the truth is out and Skid-Marks has been proven wrong, I wonder what the guru has to say about that?

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.03.10 13:59:10 by CapeShark Reply
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  • From the Aussie perspective
    http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/refereeing-imbalance-try-kaplan-for-size/#more-9713

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.03.10 14:34:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 76) : I have a solution to that. Kaplan under the old neutral system has reffed the Waratahs against New Zealand teams who historically have been very strong in the competition. The Waratahs have obviously enjoyed a healthy high win ratio against South African teams (the Sharks being an obvious example). The SA teams in contrast have been very poor in the competition and these stats stretch back at least a decade.

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.03.10 15:20:13 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 77) : good point

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.03.10 15:22:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 76) :

    Hehehehehhehe Have these guys brought this up AGAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    The Waratahs tried this in 2008 I believe. When they were then asked to show any particluar instances where JK had got it wrong, they couldn’t produce anything concrete. Just 50/50 stuff which even they had to admit could have gone either way

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.03.10 16:25:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : so true :oops:

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.03.10 22:11:04 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : is there anything we can do with these refs that cost the sharks or any team for that matter the game, band them for well something like 2 years :oops: don’t think they now how it feels to loose if we could have won :sad: :smile: ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.03.10 22:16:00 by Charmaine Reply

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  • An interesting article from ReUnion’s TJ on rugbyzone dot com. Here’s the last few paragraphs.

    I have already alluded to the incident involving Marks and the Sharks two years ago when a Hurricanes player was taken out in the in-goal while chasing a loose ball for a match winning try. That was as clear cut a penalty try as the incident in Sydney but the Sharks got away with it.

    Last year at Eden Park referee Marius Jonker ignored calls from his assistant and allowed Johan Muller to tackle Joe Rokocoko from an offside position, denying the Blues a crucial try (the Sharks ended up winning 35-31), and a few weeks later Jonker allowed the Sharks to score a match-turning try against the Hurricanes after a quick throw was taken with the wrong ball.

    I can even go back to the Sharks scoring a winning try against the Highlanders at Carisbrook when ref George Ayoub allowed the Sharks halfback to crawl over on his hands and knees for the winner, when he should have been penalised.

    The point is that while it is wrong that these calls are made, it is swings and roundabouts, and all teams get the benefit of bad calls from time to time, and other times get burned.

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.03.10 08:24:08 by McLovin Reply

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