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Don’t embarrass us Sharkies!!!


Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Admin, Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 17 Mar 2010 at 12:22

Looking ahead to this weekend’s game I’m trying to figure out why the Sharks should not win this game. That’s right, I said not win, as in lose, against the Highlanders. I can’t believe that as Sharks fans we’re actually leaning towards another Sharks loss in week six. And I’m saying we, because I’m getting a little seasick on that same boat.

Since the Super12 expanded to the Super14 in 2006 the Sharks has been one of the most successful teams over those four years. In fact they’ve been the most successful second only to the Crusaders, not even the Bulls who (according to the record books) has won 2 of the 4 tournaments since then has a better winning percentage than the Sharks.

As it stand for the past 4 years since 2006 up until 2009 here’s how teams fared based on win percentages, times in the play-offs, and then average log position.

  1. Crusaders 73% (4)
  2. Sharks 65% (2)
  3. Hurricanes 63% (3)
  4. Bulls 61% (3)
  5. Brumbies 59%
  6. Waratahs 57% (2)
  7. Chiefs 57% (1)
  8. Blues 53% (1)
  9. Stormers 44%
  10. Force 38%
  11. Highlanders 34%
  12. Lions 25%
  13. Reds 23%
  14. Cheetahs 23%

It does give a clear indication of just how good the Sharks has been over a couple of seasons, we might not have the trophy, but it does give some satisfaction when your team wins most of their games. So logic according to this stats says that the Sharks should be the dominant team for this weekend’s game. It’s not like the teams or the structures have changed a lot since 2006. These are basically the same teams we’ve been seeing for four years, right? If that’s not enough to have the scales tipped towards the Sharks then maybe this will help. Since the Super 14 the Sharks has not lost against the Highlanders once, not home or away.

I’m guessing no one’s changing their Superbru selections yet and neither am I, but why the heck not. Let’s compare the current teams as they stand on paper.

Fullback – Sorry Stefan, but you’re going up against one of the best 15’s in the competition.

Wings – Not if they play like they’ve been playing, but JP and Odwa are better players and the two wings of the Highlanders haven’t shown anything special in an attacking team so far.

Centers – Swannie and Adi has been combining well and I think Swannie will set up some good space and forward momentum going up against the much smaller Jason Shoemark.

Half-Back – What do you thing? A settled scrummie and a Daniel Carter backup contender or an out of form scrummie and a second string European?

Kankowski and other Sharks backrow vs Highlanders backrow? Kankowski!!!

The Highlanders has good locks, but I think Sykes and Johan have grown into an excellent pairing and will have the ascendancy this time…

And I don’t even want to talk about our front-row, since technically they should be better than almost all of the teams. It’s our “Bok” front-row, but the chances are good that the Highlanders will win this battle and again prove that something just isn’t right there.

The Sharks has lost all their games so far, but then the highlanders lost all but one. The Highlanders has scored 12 tries so far and the Sharks only 4, but then the Highlanders conceded 20 and the Sharks only 11. The highlanders are coming back from South Africa after a bashing by both the Stormers and the Bulls.

It will be embarrassing if the Sharks loses this one.

C’mon Sharks you’ve made us proud before and I know you can do it again.



49 Comments

  • GO SHARKS !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.03.10 12:28:36 by Charlie Reply
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  • I agree the Sharks shouldn’t lose especially since the Highlanders are returning home. History doesn’t really matter in this case because the Sharks aren’t playing at their historical levels. As for Superbru….I’ll have to sleep on that one. If the Sharks do happen to lose this one I might start to lose interest in the Sharks untill I see some pro active change.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.03.10 12:37:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Well nothing sinks lower than shark poo, and right now the sharks are poo. You’d think we shouldn’t lose it, but we’re on our worst run ever. I’m not holding my breath….

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.03.10 12:41:20 by CapeShark Reply
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  • At the end of the day the Sharks need to improve their discipline and create more chances for themselves. How many times this season have we seen tries go begging because of really stupid basic handling errors.

    On paper the Sharks should be beating 3/4 of the teams but teams on paper don’t win you matches.

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.03.10 12:41:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • Letgo

    Winning percentage means nothing if you can’t win the games that matter imho.

    ‘In fact they’ve been the most successful second only to the Crusaders, not even the Bulls who (according to the record books) has won 2 of the 4 tournaments since then has a better winning percentage than the Sharks.’

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.03.10 12:42:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 5) : Go Stormers :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.03.10 12:43:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • We will trounce the Highlanders. You read it here first :grin:

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.03.10 12:44:44 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : :shock: ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.03.10 12:44:58 by wpw Reply
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  • Letgo…I don’t know how you could possibly say that ANY Sharks backline players are better than the Highlander. If you base it on history maybe, but if you base it on form there is no way

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.03.10 12:48:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Hey Letgo nice post Tell me in your past did you work the SA Rugby the magazine i mean

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.03.10 12:53:38 by Fattmann Reply
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  • I have not been all that positive towards the Sharks and have only selected them once this year to win on Superbru. However I do have a funny feeling that we might just take this one… I hope :roll:

    Go Sharks!

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.03.10 12:54:04 by Farlington Reply

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  • Good day to you all! I’ve been thinking about it and I really believe the personnel are simply not up to the task.is botes anywhere near as good as brussouw? Is swanepoel in the same class as olivier? Is jannie really of bok quality? We have huge flaws in key positions and the writing has been on the wall for a while. We should still beat the highlanders though..

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.03.10 12:59:55 by zenrugby Reply

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  • Afternoon everyone :smile:

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.03.10 13:01:00 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : sorry to say this but only voted sharks on the sb and lms and never again :oops: i will start to vote again for the sharks when they start to win :sad: ;-)

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.03.10 13:04:45 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 4) : agree there ;-)

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.03.10 13:05:48 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : did you vote fot storm this week-end on lms :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.03.10 13:07:06 by Charmaine Reply

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  • Yes Letgo a nice post good work :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.03.10 13:08:36 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 5) : winning the games that matter – the 2007 final still makes me bitter. Still to this day I have not watched that game again or even looked at any parts of it on youtube. It just hurts too much.

    Super 14

    1996 – lost the final
    1997 – lost the semi final
    1998 – lost the semi final
    2001 – lost the final
    2007 – lost the final
    2008 – lost the semi final

    finals 0/3 – 0%

    Currie Cup

    1956 – lost the final
    1984 – lost the final
    1990 – won the final
    1992 – won the final
    1993 – lost the final
    1995 – won the final
    1996 – won the final
    1999 – lost the final
    2000 – lost the final
    2001 – lost the final
    2003 – lost the final
    2008 – won the final

    finals – 5/12 – 41%

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.03.10 13:15:38 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : Not good at all in the games that matters :cry:

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.03.10 13:17:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : yes it does hurt but me still watch and do the zulu dance when we score :oops:

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.03.10 13:17:52 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 19) : I don’t have time right now to look into the currie cup semi stats but it should be interesting as well.

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.03.10 13:21:41 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : The 2007 semi is the saddest sporting event ever closely followed by the loss to the Aussies in the 1999 cricket world cup

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.03.10 13:24:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) : I am still bitter about it. I put so much time and effort into that season (I was living in California so was up at all times of night and day watching games) and for it to all come crashing down in the last few seconds after I was already almost celebrating the win. That was indeed a black black Saturday.

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.03.10 13:28:30 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : Don’t even go there… I think all Shark fans feel the same. Hell that was a very very sad affair and combined with a few other things that happened to me at roughly the same time it made me even more depressed.

    As soon as Habana scored that try I just sat there shaking my head and uttering to my self… “that figures”

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.03.10 13:31:41 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : They’re not playing at that level, but they have the ability to play at that level…There’s no good reason not to.

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.03.10 13:35:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 24) : yes we do it still hurts wonder though if we will ever get to the top again :sad:

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.03.10 13:36:40 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 25) : None that we are aware of anyway.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.03.10 13:36:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • till later cheers :smile:

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.03.10 13:38:49 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 5) : I know, but it’s still interesting…although painfully so, it’s interesting.

    And it proves that we have everything right there to beat most teams, we just need to put it together, really it says everything we already know, just in a more clear, statistical manner.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.03.10 13:39:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 9) : I think Swannie and Adi has been doing well for the past two games. They haven’t been excellent, but they combine well and I think, as I said, because of the size difference of the two inside centers that swannie will be able to get over the advantage line even if he doesn’t get good ball.

    Also I didn’t say our centers are better, because on individual basis Shoemark is probably the best of all the centers, but as a combination the Sharks will win this battle.

    As bad as JP and Odwa has seemed, the highlanders wings has not looked much better in a team that’s scoring tries…especially vainikolo. They have speed, but are indecisive and makes nothing of good space. If JP and Odwa were playing with their team they would have looked way better…my opinion.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.03.10 13:44:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 10) : I wish, I would love a job like that.

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.03.10 13:45:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 11) : I can’t do that to the Sharks, when it comes to the Sharks I make my SB calls with my heart. Every bad season for the Sharks is a bad season for Letgo.

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.03.10 13:49:12 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Charmaine (Comment 17) : :smile:

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.03.10 13:54:32 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 27) : Right

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.03.10 13:55:17 by Letgo Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : You just had to go and show me those stats…can’t we stay with the good even for a second?
    The Highlanders game is not a semi, so as far as pool games go, we should win this one…based on history.

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.03.10 13:58:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) : :| :x :sad: :evil:
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.03.10 13:58:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) : Nice piece….. interesting head to head analysis.

    Bit harsh on our All Black Ben Smith on the wing. :razz:

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.03.10 14:15:08 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 33) : ;-)

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.03.10 14:36:07 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Charmaine (Comment 38) : Hey, you’re a vodacom cup player now. How sad, we’re not in the same team anymore.

    Congratulations, I’m sure I’ll get there soon. :grin: ;-)

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.03.10 14:53:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 39) : thanks it took all afternoon just to get 300 but got there. But still in the sharks team what do you say ;-)

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.03.10 15:13:09 by Charmaine Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 37) : I don’t think I’m being harsh.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.03.10 15:25:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 32) : I admire your passion. But I try and keep an open mind when it comes to SB :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.03.10 16:13:07 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 41) : harsh :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.03.10 16:17:35 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 41) : :shock: :oops: :grin:

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.03.10 16:28:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 43) : I’m still sticking with it…they not making enough of their good ball.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.03.10 16:29:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 45) : Come on 12 tries it’s not rubbish…..but Yes we would prefer a backline of Kelleher, Carter, Nonu, Kahui, Masaga, Habana & Dagg :grin:

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.03.10 16:54:58 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Ruan may not be the same as he was in the past, but other than the fact we don’t see him attacking as much, he is doing the job of scrumhalf much better than Rory. Ruan is quick to the breakdowns, and his pass is snappy and accurate, he is not overdoing the box kicking, and is getting good ball to Goode. He may not be as flashy as in the past, but he is actually doing the basics of scrumhalf very well. On the other hand, Rory only seems to be at about 50% of the breakdowns ready to clear the ball. He forces his forwards to have to pick and drive over and over because he is not there to feed his backs or he got himself isolated running and is at the bottom of a pile. His pass is slower than Ruan, and not as accurate, he kicks too often and runs too often.

    I keep hearing that Ruan is out of form, but I don’t think he is as bad as everyone is making out, and he certainly is the best we have right now at the Sharks.

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.03.10 17:17:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 35) : Sorry I didn’t mean to rain on your parade… I just wish the Sharks would win more of the games that matter. Tomorrow if they don’t beat the Highlanders then it is going to be a very very long Super 14.

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.03.10 17:40:36 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 47) : I agree with you completely, Ruan out of form is still way better than Rory, but still, he is out of form and could be way better than he is right now.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.03.10 08:10:35 by Letgo Reply
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