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Ru’s the boss


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 29 Mar 2010 at 06:00
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Ruan Pienaar proved once again this weekend what a superb scrumhalf he really is. For the umpteenth time I now find myself pleading to anyone who will listen – let Ruan play scrumhalf and scrumhalf only!

If ever there was such a thing as a “confidence player”, then that’s Ruan Pienaar. We’ve all seen how awful he looks when not on form and those moments and games always tend to coincide with a loss of self-confidence – usually as a result of being played out of position. After a nightmare 2009 season, which saw him summarily dropped from the Boks in favour of Morne Steyn at flyhalf, it has taken Pienaar a good few rounds (as well as yet another abortive stint at pivot) to get back to the player he was in late 2008, when he was head-and-shoulders the standout scrumhalf on the domestic scene.

Now consistency has always been a problem for Pienaar but he really is starting to play well at scrumhalf – more importantly, his goal-kicking is looking superb again – and he really needs the benefit of continuity in that position. Regardless of what happens with Andy Goode and his work permit, the Sharks simply have to stick to their guns and play Pienaar only at 9 for the rest of the campaign. If they do that, he will be the Bok reserve scrumhalf this year, at the very least.

Pick him at 10 again and he’s only going to go backwards and can kiss his Bok dreams goodbye. It’s as simple as that.



158 Comments

  • Rob, I don’t mind the last 20 to 25 minutes he plays at 10. It can’t be bad for his form to get some game time at 10 when his playing with full confidence.

    What do you think?

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.03.10 07:34:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • Agree he much better where is now than at the back and for one of the old guys he had one fantastic game on saturday well done :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.03.10 07:48:15 by Chaz Reply

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  • I will put R100 on the fact that Plum is going to pull a Steyn, and pick Ruan at 10 if Goode is not allowed in SA.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.03.10 08:08:07 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.03.10 08:08:58 by Chaz Reply

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  • well i’m off for a while :sad:

    Cheers

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.03.10 08:09:59 by Chaz Reply

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  • Well I have to admit I was proven wrong….I wanted Ruan to play 10 but he’s obviously worth a lot more at 9. Well done Ruan…

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.03.10 08:16:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I agree that Pienaar would benefit from playing 9, it’s certainly his best position. But the Sharks don’t have anyone else at 10 and two very capable scrumhalves as backup. You can see the logic.

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.03.10 08:25:40 by Flashman Reply

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  • He had 2 decent games at 9!! :roll:

    I’m sorry but I have never rated Ruan as a Bok scrumhalf and I suppose I never will UNTIL he is more consistent.

    I think he will more than likely be selected for the Boks but the question remains, where will PDivvy select him this season???

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.03.10 08:25:42 by wpw Reply
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  • Ruan is a very good flyhalf too. He was excellent on 2008 Nov. tour and in the Lions matches as well except his kicking in the second one. Problem is he doesn’t want to play flyhalf but who would like being flyhalf when your scrumhalf is Rory Koccot or FDP ( unless you are Morne Steyn :-) ? The first doesn’t give you a ball and the second steals the show. Ruan is in the same mood scrumhalf as FDP . Did you notice when Ruan is scrumhalf you don’t notice a flyhalf?

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.03.10 08:36:48 by tedanica Reply
     
  • ruan pienaar: the most overrated player in recent springbok history!! He must thank his father’s connections & association for all the opportunities they have afforded him! Just wait until Jano Vermaak becomes match fit, then ruan will be the third choice Bok scrumhalf, then everyone here will start singing that most cliched of mantras “ruan is too talented to leave out of the team, he is a utility player”

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.03.10 08:41:48 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 10) :
    So when Jake White, PDV or Eddy Jones say that Ruan is the most talented player in SA they are all wrong according to you?
    Sorry but Warren Galand is trying to find a place for his player james Hook using that old cliche and Ruan is too valuable to leave him even more.

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.03.10 08:52:12 by tedanica Reply
     
  • @tedanica (Comment 11) :

    There is no doubt that Ruan is VERY talented but he is yet to reach his potential and he has been around for quite a while now!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.03.10 08:55:08 by wpw Reply
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  • @MEGATRON: haha jano became match fit and is out again. They have 2 contrasting styles and can’t be compared.

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.03.10 08:57:03 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 13) : “two contrasting styles”? That is such a flimsy theory, a fit and “in form” jano vermaak is better than ruan with all his supposed talent…watch francois hougaard mature and jump over in the pecking order…

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.03.10 09:07:28 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 10) : Tsk tsk tsk…. Troll :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.03.10 09:13:47 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Ruan is defnitely playing much better and regaining his form. Ruan, you go boy! :smile:

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.03.10 09:19:07 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 14) :

    I have to agree with you there.

    Ruan had a few chances at test level in 2006/7 but he was hopeless!!!

    I rate him as a player but he gets too much credit for being ‘ the most talented player in SA’ and yet he hardly ever performs consistently!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.03.10 09:19:23 by wpw Reply
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  • @Flashman (Comment 7) : Agree Flashman, We have no FH. So who do we play there? Pity that Ruan could not get a full season at scrummie but that how it goes. He played well at FH too, once Goode went off.

    Just for goodness sake Plum please don’t mess with Lambie and play him at FH. That would be a tragedy. This youngster is going to be a great FB. LEAVE him there in one position to grow.

    Ruan will probably just have to play FH for the rest of the S14 season. Unless they can sort out Goode’s permit. Not sure why that is a hassle really? Think they just trying to be difficult.

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.03.10 09:29:09 by Puma Reply

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  • @tedanica (Comment 11) : :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.03.10 09:32:15 by Chaz Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 16) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.03.10 09:33:13 by Chaz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : wpw, Ruan played superb at SH in 2007. He was pushing FdP all the time that year. That comes with playing in one position all the time. He had plenty time there. Once they started to shift Ruan around he lost all confidence and his form went.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.03.10 09:34:19 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 21) :

    Nah dude, it was in 2006 when he made he played down under.

    He was pretty average!! :roll:

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.03.10 09:39:36 by wpw Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 21) : if players play well in one position why move them :sad: that happened with F steyn to if i’m correct to much moving all over :???: find somebody else for that position :mrgreen: lots of talent players all over in durbs lots of schools put them in xv, and work them till status for cc s14 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.03.10 09:46:39 by Chaz Reply

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  • till later

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.03.10 09:54:11 by Chaz Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 15) : the “troll” labelling is the refuge of those who lack tha ability to debate… :D

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.03.10 09:57:09 by Megatron Reply

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  • It is sad that Ruan doesn’t have the mantality to be able to deal with having bad games at 10.

    Yes he is a great scrummie but if he persevered and was able to cope mentally with having a bad game there at flyhalf he could be a brilliant flyhalf.

    That said it is great to have him back in form again.

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.03.10 10:00:37 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 23) : It was more a case of Steyn wanting to play flyhalf even though it is not his best position.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.03.10 10:01:56 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 25) :anyone for a round of bridge? :D

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.03.10 10:02:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • I am rocking on FL!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

    Top 10

    Karratera’s HasBeens 3064.75
    SexKitten’s Revenge 3016.5
    Sandsharks 3016 :cool:
    The dream team 3007.5
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    Closing the gap on the hasbeens. :razz: pissed that SKRevenge overtook me. :evil:

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.03.10 10:03:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 18) : andy goode doesn’t deserve a work permit, he doesn’t possess any extraordinary skills that are non-existent in south africa! the government can’t be seen to be denying south africans an opportunity to gain employment and earn a living!

    There are plenty of south african professional rugby players that can play flyhalf for the sharks that better than the foreigner andy goode.

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.03.10 10:05:00 by Megatron Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : For the Sharks, he played scrummie that year. Remember the year we got into the final of S14? Butch at FH Ruan at SH ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.03.10 10:06:11 by Puma Reply

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  • You can the most talented player in the world, but if you stuff him around and push him into positions that he isn’t suited to playing or play him for 10 minutes at a time when you are 10 points behind and desperate for someone to spark a win (like we tend to do in SA) there’s no way such a player can perform to his full potential.

    We’ve seen it all before and it’s no different with Pienaar.

    To my mind Ruan has everything it takes to be a very good fullback, but then what the hell do I know?

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.03.10 10:06:21 by rhineshark Reply
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  • i’m getting up there somehow slowly but surly :oops:

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.03.10 10:06:55 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 30) : hear hear!

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.03.10 10:07:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : what happens if you don’t pick on LMS for the week

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.03.10 10:08:10 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : please explain to me the mythology about trolls :D all your “bridge” chirps are wasted because i don’t know this mythology…

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.03.10 10:08:42 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 30) :

    Yeah maybe we can ask Victoria Matfield if she is available, she seems to spend a lot of time in the backline.

    So instead of calling you a troll I’ll try and debate with you. Which S14 quality fyhalves are there that are available?

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.03.10 10:08:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 30) : now we agree on something :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.03.10 10:08:50 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Rob, I met rekinek on Saturday. We had a Bitburger and some nice SA wine on the Sharkies here in Mainz :grin:

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.03.10 10:09:14 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : saw you are right up there. Well done. I suck at the game I invented :(

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.03.10 10:09:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : trolls live under bridges :-)

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.03.10 10:10:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 39) : now i’m :cry:

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.03.10 10:11:11 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 35) :

    You get assigned a default pick. As to which team is assigned to you as a default will be determined by which sides you still have available to pick from.

    The first team ALPHABETICALLY that you have not picked yet (in other words that are still available for you to pick) will be the team assigned as your default for that round.

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.03.10 10:11:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : are you above me or to low :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.03.10 10:12:49 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) :

    Hydras and Sonetshark are the two teams to watch. They have not used any trades yet and are right up there (10 and 11) once the Semis are decided they can oad their teams with players and cruise past us as we flounder at the end.

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.03.10 10:14:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) : thanks because me don’t know what to do going away for the week-end don’t even know who i’m going to do my other comp SS FL / FL

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.03.10 10:15:20 by Chaz Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 39) : nice one. Pretty sure that wouldn’t have happened without sharksworld :-)

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.03.10 10:15:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : Of that you can be 100% sure. :cool:

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.03.10 10:19:38 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 42) : :grin:

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.03.10 10:20:49 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 46) :

    You can make your pics in advance for LMS and SB, for this next round.

  • Comment 50, posted at 29.03.10 10:21:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 37) :

    Man that answer must be loooooooooooooooooooooong. :razz:

  • Comment 51, posted at 29.03.10 10:23:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 31) :

    I was actually referring to his form for the Boks!! :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 29.03.10 10:46:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 37) :

    Ishmael Dollie!! :twisted:

  • Comment 53, posted at 29.03.10 10:48:11 by wpw Reply
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  • My LMS pick for this week is the Sharks!! :roll:

    Now watch them disappoint me by losing to the Reds! :cry:

  • Comment 54, posted at 29.03.10 10:51:49 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 52) : hahahaha wpw, We got it confused there buddy, I as speaking about him in the Sharks. No problem ;-)

  • Comment 55, posted at 29.03.10 10:52:23 by Puma Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 54) : wpw, Hope not. Reds looking a good team this year, then they never impressed me much this past weekend against the Cheethas, who were without 4 of their players. Maybe travel and altitude who knows. Probably be up for the Sharks game. We going to be tired after the travel. Our tails are up though..hehehe. Confidence does wonders.. :razz:

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.03.10 10:56:51 by Puma Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 53) :

    I said S14 “quality” not “wannabe” :razz:

  • Comment 57, posted at 29.03.10 10:59:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Who’s gonna fill in at FH for the Sharks?

    Steven Meyer….if his girlfriend allows him. :lol:

    But seriously, everyone is so anti Foode and anti Ruan at 10, don’t tell me Monty….please.

  • Comment 58, posted at 29.03.10 11:18:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 54) : Very brave call especially with the Sharks that had to travel this week.

  • Comment 59, posted at 29.03.10 11:32:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • For me Ruan can play 9 or 10 or any position as long as he plays at all. This is all PDV fault that Ruan is allergic on the 10 shirt. First Helium convinced Ruan to change his position promising him to be his first choice flyhalf and then dropped him only because of bad place kicking in one game ( oficially beacuse of injury) or rather because of influence of Bulls crowd and some Bulls players as I suspect. Ruan doesn’t trust Helium any more , feels betrayed and has reverted to his favourite number 9 .
    If it was Jake as a coach 9 with Eddy Jones) I am sure Ruan would play flyhalf.

  • Comment 60, posted at 29.03.10 11:42:42 by tedanica Reply
     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 58) : I was just about to write an article punting Monty for 10 this weekend…

  • Comment 61, posted at 29.03.10 11:44:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 58) :it is a problemn ruan really deserves to stay at 9 especially now with fourie leaving after next world cup. He is the bok solution to that problem. The prob is the short term ie the rest of s14 and I think they either have to keep goode for continuity sake or try lambie,not too many alternatives.. Not monty dumond, ever!

  • Comment 62, posted at 29.03.10 11:45:23 by zenrugby Reply

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  • Coming back down to earth Sharkies…..where was the midfield defence this weekend?? If it wasn’t for some brilliant scramble defence by Botes and co. the scoreline would have been a lot different

  • Comment 63, posted at 29.03.10 11:46:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @tedanica (Comment 60) :

    It wasn’t PDivvy that started moving him around, it was Jake the Snake!!

    Remember he played at 15 for the Boks and I think he might have played at 10 while Jake was coach (might be wrong) :roll:

  • Comment 64, posted at 29.03.10 11:47:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) :

    Just copy and paste the one you wrote before the S14 started… Of wait, that was the first one.

    Copy and paste the one you wrote after Steve Meyer ‘retired’ :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 29.03.10 11:49:01 by wpw Reply
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  • What happened to Lem Olivier?

  • Comment 66, posted at 29.03.10 11:49:48 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 66) : LeN Olivier is playing for Montauban in the Top 14

  • Comment 67, posted at 29.03.10 12:30:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : As a child, have u ever seen the childrens tv show ”Dawie die kabouter” :?: :?: Well, jy is nie die kabouter nie :wink: :grin:

  • Comment 68, posted at 29.03.10 12:31:30 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) :

    Please don’t coz I might get banned for my comments. :grin:

  • Comment 69, posted at 29.03.10 12:38:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I think its my duty to inform everyone in durban, lock all your valuables away, Quade Cooper is in town!

  • Comment 70, posted at 29.03.10 12:49:46 by zenrugby Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : I think a lot of the average “non french” players will be heading home soon when the new rules for the french leagues kick in.

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  • @zenrugby (Comment 70) : :mrgreen: and taxi drivers should stay of the streets as well

  • Comment 72, posted at 29.03.10 13:06:20 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 71) : New rules?

  • Comment 73, posted at 29.03.10 13:10:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 73) :

    There is a limit to the number of non french players being introduced next year i believe.

  • Comment 74, posted at 29.03.10 13:22:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 73) : The quota of home-grown talent required in each squad has been set at 40%, rising to 50% next season and finishing at 60% in 2012-13. A player qualifies for the quota if they have been a licensee to the French Rugby Federation (FFR) for five seasons before turning 21 or, if between 16 and 21, have spent three seasons in an approved training centre.

    The FFR is trying to keep French rugby strong by forcing the clubs to field more “home-grown” players.

  • Comment 75, posted at 29.03.10 13:25:13 by lostfish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) : I reckon we should start with Monty, because he is a solid enough flyhalf, who has let us down fewer times than some of the “stars” in the side.

    On the other hand, maybe it wouldn’t be a bad idea giving Lambie a go at 10 and if it doesn’t work move Ruan to 10 and bring on Kokky.

  • Comment 76, posted at 29.03.10 13:40:01 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 76) : Rather play Monty at 10 than “not” Goode.

  • Comment 77, posted at 29.03.10 13:41:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : I meant Len, but wrote Lem… :|

    The Sharks shouldn’t have allowed that to happen. Also we should have picked up or have another youngster ready for back-up. Now Dumond or Lambie is our only options. Unless Ruan feels better about playing 10.

  • Comment 78, posted at 29.03.10 13:53:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • Btw…I won’t feel to bad if Lambie runs out at 10, if he’s going to play there for us in the future, we might as well give him a chance now. He’s so confident, I don’t see him messing up. I back him to have a great game at ten.

    This would also open up a space for Ludick or Mvovo in the back three.

  • Comment 79, posted at 29.03.10 13:56:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • I ve said somewhere before just clone Ruan and you have covered both positions 9 and 10.

  • Comment 80, posted at 29.03.10 14:00:06 by tedanica Reply
     
  • @Letgo (Comment 78) :

    Lambie is NOT an option.

    here we are complaining about players being messed around positionally and we want to propose the same thing to a young star of the future who has just about found his feet in one position. :sad: Leave Lambie exactly where he is.

    Dumond is only an option if Kockott is not available IMO.

    I would actually play Kockott at 10 ahead of Dumond if we have to keep Ruan at 9

  • Comment 81, posted at 29.03.10 14:00:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 81) : I’m not proposing that we mess him around, but rather that we move him to that position where we dearly need some new talent.
    Move and grow him there. Not back and forth, not messed around.

    I believe he has the talent to be the answer at 10 for the next 10 years. That’s what I’m proposing…especially since fullback is covered easily or more easily than fly half.

  • Comment 82, posted at 29.03.10 14:16:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • Move Lambie to 13 I say!!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 83, posted at 29.03.10 14:18:39 by wpw Reply
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  • WHO WANTS TO JOIN ???

    http://www.keo.co.za/2010/03/29/sharks-lose-jacobs/comment-page-4/#comment-1553137

  • Comment 84, posted at 29.03.10 14:25:49 by Charlie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 83) : :| :shock: :sad:

  • Comment 85, posted at 29.03.10 14:32:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 84) : No thanks, too many cooks, I’ll stick with my own kids (Sharkies), thanks.

  • Comment 86, posted at 29.03.10 14:34:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 64) : Actually Wes, you are wrong here. It was absolutely PdV that moved Ruan around first. It was for the Baby Boks, and he moved Ruan to 10 and Morne Steyn to 12 to accommodate Delport at 9. So you can’t blame White for that. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 87, posted at 29.03.10 14:35:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 83) : @Letgo (Comment 85) : I wil play for free ;-)

  • Comment 88, posted at 29.03.10 14:38:02 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 87) : I would easily play Ruan at 10 and Morne at 12 for the boks. Especially if Jdv doesn’t come back. That’s a good solid, but because of Ruan also and exciting combination. I was actually calling for that ever since Steyn got selected ahead of Ruan.

    Adi played 12, I think, and if you’re going to move a guy to 12 why not rather Steyn?

  • Comment 89, posted at 29.03.10 14:38:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 89) : I am not saying it is not a good idea. I was just pointing out to Wes that it was PdV that first moved Ruan around, not White. But you are correct, Steyn is actually a very good 12.

    In the Baby Boks, Delport was accommodated at 9 because he was the captain, I don’t think anyone would argue that Ruan was the better scrumhalf.

  • Comment 90, posted at 29.03.10 14:41:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • It would be nice to ‘borrow’ JL Potgieter from the Bulls now. He’s probably the 2nd best flyhalf in SA at the moment and hardly getting any gametime.

  • Comment 91, posted at 29.03.10 14:46:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think we must rather just hope Goode gets his work permit, please no more patchy FH’s and Monty at FH has no imagination….he works for CC, but not S14.

  • Comment 92, posted at 29.03.10 15:02:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 91) : I doubt that…..Grant is much better than Pootgieter.

  • Comment 93, posted at 29.03.10 15:04:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 87) :

    Dude, lets just get one thing straight, ok??

    I am NEVER wrong!!! :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 94, posted at 29.03.10 15:06:26 by wpw Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 93) : Last time Potgieter played a full game was the 2009 CC final….go watch that game again and the 2009 CC semi against the Sharks. He is a very good FH and it’s a pity he isn’t getting decent gametime.

  • Comment 95, posted at 29.03.10 15:08:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 91) :

    Closet Bull!! :twisted:

  • Comment 96, posted at 29.03.10 15:09:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 94) : No, you just never admit you’re wrong! :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 97, posted at 29.03.10 15:12:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 91) : I would say Grant and then maybe JL, I also rate Burtin Francis as an up and coming playing and don’t thing Naas Olivier has been playing bad rugby the last 2 seasons.

    Meyer Bosman is also not a bas options since he covers both 10 and 12.

    I wouldn’t say no to anyone of these players right now.

  • Comment 98, posted at 29.03.10 15:17:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • Fourie du Preez is only 2 years older than Ruan. A little less than two years actually.

  • Comment 99, posted at 29.03.10 15:17:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 96) : :roll: ;-)

  • Comment 100, posted at 29.03.10 15:20:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 98) : I don’t think Naas Olivier is really up to S14 level. He’s made some bad mistakes in the last couple of games.

  • Comment 101, posted at 29.03.10 15:23:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 94) : so wie se sussie se kind gat die naam Megatron kry?? :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 102, posted at 29.03.10 15:25:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 101) : Agreed, I certainly don’t believe that Naas Olivier is any better an option than Monty Dumond.

  • Comment 103, posted at 29.03.10 15:25:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 102) : Ah, Wes is kind of cute and cuddly, Megatron is simply a troll. :lol:

  • Comment 104, posted at 29.03.10 15:27:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 68) : what the hell is a kabouter? :roll:

  • Comment 105, posted at 29.03.10 15:29:25 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 104) : I know…was actually refering to something else..

  • Comment 106, posted at 29.03.10 15:29:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 93) : I disagree. Stormers have such a potent backline and it`s wasted with Generaal and Grant at flyhalf. They need someone better at flyhalf.

  • Comment 107, posted at 29.03.10 15:30:45 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 104) : @Pokkel (Comment 102) : label all you want, when you don’t have answers for my questions and assertions i will accept being called a troll as you conceeding…

  • Comment 108, posted at 29.03.10 15:34:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 108) : Hey Mega, I actually like you. I was refering to this.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/MY-SISTER-SAYS-IF-I-CAN-GET-1-MILLION-FANS-SHE-WILL-NAME-HER-BABY-MEGATRON/363882707201?v=wall

    and I’ve never called you troll

  • Comment 109, posted at 29.03.10 15:36:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 101) : I personally believe, that if Olivier had a little better or cleaner ball to play with he would be up to standard and certainly better than Dumond. I’m not saying he’s anything special, but rather that he has improved his game alot and would have been an asset for the Sharks, even just as a backup, had we gone that route.

    He has made mistakes in the past few games that has been costly, but lets face it, those mistakes were made in a poor cheetahs team and under more pressure than most other 10′s in the super14 has played. He’s also put in a couple of good performance, that when the cheetahs were on the front foot, has made them look more potent on attack than in previous years.

  • Comment 110, posted at 29.03.10 15:38:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 95) : Potgieter should be playing in one of the SA teams, but that was his bad decision…

    He will have lots of game time in the CC though and I think that’s why the Bulls bought him.

  • Comment 111, posted at 29.03.10 15:40:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 110) : It’s always difficult to gauge a backline player when they receive bad ball…but I still rate Potgieter. Good attacking player

  • Comment 112, posted at 29.03.10 15:41:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • it’s not a good look for south african rugby that we are struggling so much to produce decent flyhalfs, it’s embarrassing just to think that the brumbies have three that we would pay to rand for! Gits, to’omua & lealiifano (albeit he is being used at inside centre)…waratahs have halangahu, barnes…

  • Comment 113, posted at 29.03.10 16:02:56 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 109) : my bad, i actually tagged you to ask what it is you were saying in afrikaans?

  • Comment 114, posted at 29.03.10 16:04:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 113) : It’s because Sa coaches are to afraid to use anyone at flyhalf. They would rather use a potential flyhalf at fullback where they are safe…or whatever. We could have had many great flyhalfs in SA had we kept a couple guys in that position.

  • Comment 115, posted at 29.03.10 16:10:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 64) : Sorry to burst your bubble Ru was moved to F/H in the U19/20 world cup by PDV to accomodate another S/H Delport i think
    Jake picked up on it cos at the time that jake tried him at F/H the press were punting Ru as the next best thing to sliced bread as a F/H calling him the next Honiball Jake is on record as saying that if he stayed as bok coach he would have played Ru at F/H and Frans at F/B for the 4 years and let the settle there

    Wonder if it would have worked

  • Comment 116, posted at 29.03.10 16:15:11 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 114) : It’s good having you around, it gets so boring here when everybody agrees. I like to stir a bit as well but only if I have the time to enjoy the ‘debate’

  • Comment 117, posted at 29.03.10 16:17:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I have to go…

    Team to beat Reds on Saturday…

    15. Lambie
    14. Movovo
    13. Stefan
    12. Swannie
    11. JP
    10. Ruan (if no Goode)
    9. Rory (some as above)
    8. Kanko
    7. Alberts
    6. Botes
    5. Hargreaves
    4. Sykes
    3. Jannie
    2. Bissie
    1. John

    16. Beast
    17. Burden
    18. Steenkamp
    19. Deysel
    20. Keegan
    21. Mcleod
    22. Murray

    I think stefan who has played in that position before might just do the job. I don’t want to move Lambie right now…and think Mvovo should get a chance.

    I think if I were coach people would have called for my head….
    …until we won brilliantly with Stefan scoring a hatrick. :lol:

    Exit dreamland, I really don’t know what plumtree should do with 13, I still think Keegan would be a cool, adventurous option. I can’t suck at 13 can he?

  • Comment 118, posted at 29.03.10 16:18:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 102) : :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 119, posted at 29.03.10 16:19:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 118) : Stefan will probably not get as much chance to kick from 13, and his not to bad when he decides to run.

  • Comment 120, posted at 29.03.10 16:20:14 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 116) : No, because neither Ruan nor Steyntjie would have played in those positions at their province, which would have made it impossible to pick them their consistently for the Boks.

  • Comment 121, posted at 29.03.10 16:21:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 120) : I had to back myself, since I know no one else will.

  • Comment 122, posted at 29.03.10 16:22:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 122) : Also with stefan there Mvovo gets a chance to prove himself. Therefor maybe pushing Stefan to the bench if he has a few good games. This could be reason alone.

    Stefan won’t suck at 13 either. Experience in the midfield. Guiding the young guys around him. I like this option more and more.

  • Comment 123, posted at 29.03.10 16:27:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 123) : Till later then…anyone care to comment on my suggestion or make a better when…and make a better one.

  • Comment 124, posted at 29.03.10 16:28:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 50) : yes i will but what about the ss fl and fl on sharks side will only who playing by wed thurs and thurs for me is to late :sad:

  • Comment 125, posted at 29.03.10 16:29:32 by Chaz Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 27) : ok ;-) if he wanted to :smile:

  • Comment 126, posted at 29.03.10 16:31:38 by Chaz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 54) : oh shit but i can’t chooese sharks and our guys are at homeee and must win :mrgreen:

  • Comment 127, posted at 29.03.10 16:34:28 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Fattmann (Comment 116) : @Letgo (Comment 121) :
    It would have worked as Jake is stubborn and strong enough to get his way. He would have been able to convince the players and coaches. Although both boys prefer more fun in their positions – Fransie is getting bored in fulback and Ruan as a flyhalf as well.

  • Comment 128, posted at 29.03.10 16:35:37 by tedanica Reply
     
  • @Megatron (Comment 105) : aaaahhhhh you got to be joking megatron no way me can’t believe this one no way and your S African :roll:

  • Comment 129, posted at 29.03.10 16:40:36 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 105) : my hubby calls my gran son kabouter :lol:

  • Comment 130, posted at 29.03.10 16:42:31 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 104) : eeehi shhh

  • Comment 131, posted at 29.03.10 16:43:39 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 117) : agree agree :sad: only joking joking so you like to stir do you wait until i start then maybe not just now i will have war1 on my back again eeeee :oops: :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 132, posted at 29.03.10 16:47:12 by Chaz Reply

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  • ok everyone is about nearly off me shall see all you’s later :sad:

  • Comment 133, posted at 29.03.10 17:00:20 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 123) : I also think Oom would be good at outside centre as would Odwa-who might just be the answer there kinda like Umanga Im not sold on Swannie as inside centre to much bash not enough flair also heard he has a shoulder injury so we might have a complete shuffle in the midfield I also think if waylon is given time he will regain the form he had when brad was inside him
    For what its worth

  • Comment 134, posted at 29.03.10 17:26:26 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 129) : chaz, not all of us are afrikaners :D

  • Comment 135, posted at 29.03.10 17:27:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 135) : true :sad: and i’m sure you heard storys about kabouters and my dad said they are knowms in english i’m not even sure its the right english word but sorry if i hurt your feelings shame poor megatron :cry: its a story about little people who lives in hollow tree etc eee :smile: ;-)

  • Comment 136, posted at 29.03.10 18:02:44 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 135) : sorry they arn’t people is these small knowms that you get in peoples gardens that are painted my gran that stayed in ladysmith Natal had lots of them but young people like yourself might not have them may be your mom or gran etc :mrgreen:

  • Comment 137, posted at 29.03.10 18:13:45 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 135) : btw i’m not born afriaans went to school in durbs my family is all english but me well feel in love with a boer :oops:

  • Comment 138, posted at 29.03.10 18:15:05 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 138) : @Chaz (Comment 136) : hahahaha chaz you’re funny, no need to apologise :-) , if you’d said garden gnomes i would’ve understood what you’re talking about..

  • Comment 139, posted at 29.03.10 18:25:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 139) : you see i am english i also forgot what their names were in english but knew what kabouters were and then the spelling was also wrong but that’s my old man :oops: ;-)

  • Comment 140, posted at 29.03.10 18:35:44 by Chaz Reply

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  • well went with tahs on LMS they better win the cheets other wise i’m dead meat could not do anything with FL but still must do SS FL so i’ll wait until wednesday night late and hope the week end teams are in :mrgreen:

  • Comment 141, posted at 29.03.10 18:42:03 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) : What happened to your Monti article :?:

    I had a second thought, I’m starting to think Monti’s not much worse than Goode, and if Plum keeps with his plan of moving Pienaar to FH in the last 20-30 mins. Monty might just (hopefully) see us through.

    :mrgreen: What’s the use of a mind if you can’t change it :mrgreen:

  • Comment 142, posted at 29.03.10 19:03:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 142) : you are very quite these days do we hear from you only on week-ends ;-)

  • Comment 143, posted at 29.03.10 19:16:32 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 143) : he is blogging on other sites…

  • Comment 144, posted at 29.03.10 19:29:40 by Megatron Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 142) : will write it tomorrow

  • Comment 145, posted at 29.03.10 19:33:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 144) : what other sites are so important and full of fun than our sharks site :lol:

  • Comment 146, posted at 29.03.10 19:38:28 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 143) : Been quite busy and our office internet (which is wireless…..don’t even waste your time with wireless internet) has been on and off for the past 2weeks. Very frustrating.

    But glad you mis me :mrgreen:

  • Comment 147, posted at 29.03.10 19:39:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 147) : no me got telkom for R200 bucks and get 1 gig free but this sharks world :oops: took all my 1 gig jokes jokes Rob ;-) and had to top up so i can get on SW over the week-end :mrgreen:

  • Comment 148, posted at 29.03.10 19:42:19 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 145) : Do you think the bookies will install the Sharks as favourites for Saturday ?

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 147) : the real reason can’t go on SW over the week-end :sad: going to camp :smile: so i used my time over the week-end and the bit of the week to chat :mrgreen: and my daughter stuff so my gig went for a loop :???:

  • Comment 150, posted at 29.03.10 19:45:19 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 145) : Rob please when you’s do the LMS next year please give us more than 10 to trade with :oops: :smile: ;-)

  • Comment 151, posted at 29.03.10 19:46:47 by Chaz Reply

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  • till later ;-)

  • Comment 152, posted at 29.03.10 19:56:15 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 148) : Have you checked out afriHost? The cheapest dsl rates in SA and now with uncapped accounts.

  • Comment 153, posted at 29.03.10 20:04:05 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Leave Ruan at 9 and Waylon at 13 and watch them blossom. Enough of this damn musical chairs!

    Oh, and tell Stefan that for every bloody ball he kicks a fairy dies.

  • Comment 154, posted at 29.03.10 20:15:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Rob, Bruce Springsteen is THE BOSS.

    And he ROCKS.

    And don’t you ever forget it.

  • Comment 155, posted at 29.03.10 20:19:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 155) : i wonder who ruan is BOSSING?

  • Comment 156, posted at 29.03.10 20:21:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 153) : no but me will stay with telkom me don’t like jumping from one to another and 1 gig is more than enough its just with my daughter work in the uk that we did explore looks more like a bull s thing me not going to send her to the uk all alone and this thing is bull they want her bank account etc to see if she has money in her acc and with today shit that is going on with this net etc there is no way i’m going to do it got my coz inthe uk to some spy work for me to see if its true :sad:

  • Comment 157, posted at 29.03.10 21:11:46 by Chaz Reply

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  • well i’m off for the day see everyone 2 morrow sleep tight and don’t let the bed bugs bite eeeeh :mrgreen:

  • Comment 158, posted at 29.03.10 21:27:02 by Chaz Reply

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