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Super 14, week 8


Written by dean oelschig (deanoelsch)

Posted in :Original Content, Super 14 on 6 Apr 2010 at 14:31
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The Easter weekend saw some interesting results. No one is safe with team number 14 beating team number 2 and team number 10 securing a hat-trick of wins on the trot. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to call but here are my chocolate-filled thoughts on this past weekend’s games. After my pathetic attempt last week, and to satisfy some google-less readers, this week’s will be highly thoughtful and technical with some real rugby thoughts and observations.

Hurricanes (26) vs Crusaders (26)
Even before the Easter Bunny started to pack his basket with eggs, the Canes and Saders gave us mixed emotions, like kissing your sister as the one commentator said at the final whistle – “screw you man, my sister is 11!” The Canes were absolutely desperate to win this game as you would expect after 4 straight boerewors lashings from South African teams. The game was tighter than a nun’s… moral fiber as the lead switched continuously. It would have been a boring game to watch if it wasn’t so much fun watching Kiwi’s bash each other to death. So, the stern and serious rugby points I took out of this game?
1. Carter is not back to his best. He is probably the 5th or 6th best flyhalf in the Super 14 at the moment and his kick at the end he missed wouldn’t have happened 3 years ago. Good news for the Boks.
2. Nonu had his best game in years. He is the modern day Spencer: lethal or dreadful.
3. Kaplan’s decision at the end was 100% perfect. I know a few folk in Wellington are crying into their wool but he didn’t ask the TMO if it was a try or not, he knew Saders had scored, he wanted to know what happened before it. Good refereeing if you ask me.
4. The Saders are beatable.
5. The fact that they managed to score after such a long build up at the end will unfortunately give them more confidence than we hoped. They might feel unbeatable right now after that and the result was certainly better off for them than the Canes who have to go kiss sisters.
The Hurricanes are now guaranteed to have their 6th week in a row without a win as they have a bye bye this weekend but luckily for them, they can’t slip any further than 9th. The Crusaders host the Tahs and FINALLY we’ll be able to really gauge how good these 2 teams are. Impossible to predict the game so expect the home team rule to apply here on Superbru (did you notice that all home teams were undefeated this past weekend? I F&%$ing hate Superbru).

Western Force (16) vs Stormers (15)
Another TTANMF (tighter than a nun’s…) game. I commented last week that I expected the score to be 0-0 after both teams seem to rely heavily on defence (damn American Apple trying to convince me to change defence to defense! I WILL NOT BUDGE!). Maybe each team should spend some time with the Taliban and learn a thing or two about attack. 16-15. That’s 1 point every 2.6 minutes. That’s 3 points every 9 minutes. Look, this game is hardly going to take up too much time on Channel 200 but the Stormers fans deserve to throw their handbags in disgust at this result while Luke Skywalker thrilled, he will be with their first win. Clearly the Kaapies missed Joe “Percy” Pietersen at the back for the game and you are left questioning the depth of this team. With Willem de Waal they seem to kick aimlessly, waste possession and spend as much time running as Steven Hawking. They will have to turn the gas up a notch or 6 if they want to challenge the Blues after the way the Na’vi demolished the Bulls. The Force will fancy themselves to get on a roll of 2 victories in a row when they play the weed-smoking Landers in Otago.

Blues (32) vs Bulls (17)
OK. So I called it on last week’s wrap that the Blues could win this one. I then decided they would. I then agreed with Rob when he commented on the wrap that he was going Blues for the game. I even read Tank Lanning predict that the Blues would win. And then I predicted Bulls on Superbru. WTF? The Bulls just had an invincible aura about them. Well, the Blues didn’t think so. Rob told me I can’t talk about politics on this site but if I did talk about politics I might at this point mention a certain song about the harming of Afrikaans farmers sung recently by a certain youth leader. But I am going to obey Rob’s wishes and not talk about it. ;-) The Bulls were absolutely lambasted at the break down point during this game. It is well known that big men of Netherlands descent were spitting their breakfast brandies while they watched their Blou manne receiving hit after hit so they ordered their wives to cover their children’s eyes who were whimpering in shame witnessing the impossible acts against their Pierre’s, Victor’s and Morne’s. Away from Fortress Loftus, the homesick Bulls played like boys vs men. Much has been said about the Blues’ backline but it was their forward pack led by Jerome Kaino that demolished the Bakkies-less Bulls sewing team. This could be the only team in the tournament that has the firepower in the forward pack to do this to the Bulls but my word it was carnage. The Bulls normally dominate the forward play, or in a WORST case scenario, are matched. Not here pappie. Big Ben Vic understated after the game, “we didn’t perform.” Well they certainly weren’t allowed to as they conceded more penalties than the average varsity drinking game. And with things not going their way, Morne looked idealess and Gerhard van den Heever had a complete Earl Rose moment when he took the quick lineout that sent Zane Kirchner retreating like a wounded poodle. The Bulls have 2 options now for the season. They can HTFU and play like men and desperately try win a few away games to guarantee a home semi-final and then walk away with the trophy for the 3rd year out of 4, or they will lose in an away semi-final. Blues host the Stormers and this will be a completely different game. If the Blues still have any strength and energy left, nullifying the Stormers’ forward pack shouldn’t be too difficult but scoring points against the tournament’s top defensive team will be tough. I think the Stormers should win this as their attack is better than the Blues’ defence (if they leave Willem out of the side) while the Stormers defence is probably better than the Blues’ attack. Potential score? Something like 17-13 but the Stormers will need to defend like trojans.

Chiefs (27) vs Highlanders (21)
I think the main “serious” rugby talk to come out of this game was Mike Delany at 10. The kid has skills. Donald at 12 also looks more comfortable as his inability as a playmaker isn’t cast into the spotlight. With the pressure off he can attack the line with more time to think and the combo looks like the Chiefs are only going to get better from here on in. Wow, if the Joker was reading this post so far he would definitely put on his best Joker smile and say, “Why sooo serious?” “This is a real serious rugby review Joker! Go rob a bank!” Delany was seriously good and I can’t wait to see what he does in a tight game against the Bulls this weekend. Other than that, it was a pretty stock standard derby game, refusing to open up with the rolling mall even making an appearance which sent all late ex All-Blacks turning in their grave. Chiefs have the pre-mentioned task of facing up to a wounded Bull while the Highlanders will be desperate to win against the Force this weekend. DESPERATE! Even more desperate than housewives.

Waratahs (40) vs Cheetahs (17)
There was only one reason any of us actually gave a toss about this game: Superbru. Mine said Tahs by 29. With 9 minutes left, Tahs were leading 33-3 and 29 was looking solid. Suddenly though, the Cheetahs found some rhythm to score and made the score 33-10 and my spread was kicked into touch as I was now 6 points out. After some enterprising play, Josh Holmes scored to put the score at a nice, well-rounded 40-10 with about 2 seconds left. After dancing around the living room like a retarded monkey (sorry Rob, I am talking politics again), the Waratahs defence then opened up like a can of Chuck Norris whoopass and Corne met Uys strolled through to deny me of any Superbru success for the 8th week in a row. 23 was the margin. That’s all I have to say about that. Sorry, I don’t care any more about this game… Moving along. Here are plenty of real rugby match reports on the game if you care. (That Chuck Norris comment reminded me of what I heard this weekend: “Jesus may walk on water but Chuck can swim on land.” That’s an Andy Goodie).

Sharks (30) vs Reds (28)
Oh how beautiful a threesome is. Sharks have now had three wins on the trot and all have been pretty hard fought affairs, won through desperation. Considering I am now an adopted Vaalie, this Easter I packed my Venter trailer (not really) and shared the N3 with thousands of caravans to spend the long weekend in the the Ethekwini Metropol [for all my international readers, that means e (the) thek (Sharks) wini (winning)]. We gathered our best Derbin accents and ventured down to the tank for a blissful Saturday afternoon. After sampling the quality of Castle Draft at Collegians we hiked, trekked and followed our sherpa to our seats situated adjacent to the satellite that films Google Earth. My mate Phil went for the first round of drinks (2 jugs) of Windhoek (on another note, how did Windhoek get pouring rights in the tank?). My elaborated point is this: Watching the game from the Google Earth satellite through some lightly tainted beer goggles left my real serious rugby review ability slightly tarnished (sorry M______n – you know who you are). All I knew is that there was no way the Sharks would lose after I spent 8 hours on the N3, stood in the queue to buy tickets, selflessly sampled the beer quality in Derbin, hiked 3km into the atmosphere and watched the game from a satellite. I must apologise though because about 5 minutes before half time I left to go reload the 2 jugs and the team missed me badly, going from 9-7 to 9-21 down. But once I was back to my seat 5 minutes into the 2nd half (that 20 minute beer queue is not acceptable Absa Stadium Management if you are reading this), I then motivated the team to start performing like demons. The dancing Quade Cooper was sent packing and from where I sat (space) all I could see was the red scrum cap of Jacques Botes everywhere the ball was. The man was immense and had his best game ever. Even being slightly beer tainted, I do recall cheering on the decision to kick for touch with 3 minutes to go and a 30-28 lead. I highly doubt it was an attempt at a bonus point but wasted just enough time to hold out for a really good win. The quality of rugby I question but we won against a pretty damn decent Reds team with the flyhalf of the tournament so far (a rugby playing bar of soap). Now, the Sharks can chillax a bit, safe in the knowledge I spent enough after the game at Eighties to last them through the bye week. The Reds have a picnic at Ellis Park this weekend.

So after week 8, my final log predictions look like this:

Bulls
Crusaders
Stormers
Chiefs
Waratahs
Blues
Reds
Brumbies (sorry Jeremy Paul)
Sharks
Hurricanes
Highlanders
Cheetahs
Force
Lions

Wow it’s tough at the top of that log! The top 8 deserve a top 4 spot!

Have a good short week and at least we have the Masters to watch during the Sharks bye weekend! I’ll catch you later or I’ll catch you another time.



126 Comments

  • As always a pleasure to read. Well done :grin:

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.04.10 14:36:07 by CapeShark Reply
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  • hmmm…. needed to turn a number of seriously blind eyes there, but well done :)

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.04.10 15:01:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Thanks for the afternoon entertainment.

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.04.10 15:04:19 by lostfish Reply
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  • ‘Rob told me I can’t talk about politics on this site but if I did talk about politics I might at this point mention a certain song about the harming of Afrikaans farmers sung recently by a certain youth leader. But I am going to obey Rob’s wishes and not talk about it.’

    hahahahahaha :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.04.10 15:09:47 by wpw Reply
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  • Nice article again….I can’t say I agree with your final log position though. The Stormers and Bulls aren’t looking very good on their overseas trip and I predict the Blues in the top 4.

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.04.10 15:13:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • ‘With Willem de Waal they seem to kick aimlessly, waste possession and spend as much time running as Steven Hawking.’ :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.04.10 15:14:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.04.10 15:18:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • windhoek got the rights, because its f!@#$ng awesome!

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.04.10 15:19:04 by willa Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : in light of recent events, that’s sailing WAY too close to the wind, but I’ll let it slide. You guys are all grownups.

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.04.10 15:21:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 8) : Not denying it’s awesome, just surprised SAB and Castle let something like that slip! Castle own rugby!

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.04.10 15:21:15 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : You lucky I didn’t mention a certain alien who wanted to go home :-)

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.04.10 15:22:01 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 5) : I back that top 4. Bulls and Stormers only have 4 games down under, Bulls have 1 from 2 already so only 2 more to go, against the Chiefs and Reds, even if they only win one of those. Both also have a game in hand over the Tahs. Bulls 3rd game from now is against the Lions!

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.04.10 15:24:18 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • As always its a great read. Thanks Dean

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.04.10 15:24:51 by billy Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 8) : aaah man – I miss windhoek lager, that’s for sure.

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.04.10 15:26:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 11) : you reckon I don’t have cards in my pocket? :)

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.04.10 15:30:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    Agree. Now if it was klempie on the udder hand… lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.04.10 15:34:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 16) : where is he? Must be this side again.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.04.10 15:38:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : Bet if u didn’t have your sheriff’s badge you’d have gotten a real uit trap from Rob…..wish Megastront would make comments like that :grin:

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.04.10 15:56:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 18) : lotsa folks who should really know better taking liberties today… :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.04.10 16:01:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : I know you do which is exactly why I didn’t talk about it! Back to the rugby then…

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.04.10 16:06:36 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • ‘Gerhard van den Heever had a complete Earl Rose moment when he took the quick lineout that sent Zane Kirchner retreating like a wounded poodle.’

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.04.10 16:12:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 20) : indeed :) So about this wedding, then? Where is it? :)

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.04.10 16:13:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • well me lost a lots of points on SB but shit the bulls lost :lol: and for me that was just great you see they can also loose :mrgreen:
    and well :mrgreen:
    i must just say something me could not do so all week end
    :mrgreen: well done sharks :mrgreen:
    and :mrgreen: GO SHARKS GO :mrgreen: eeeeaaahhh :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.04.10 16:13:56 by Chaz Reply

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  • ‘Weed smoking Landers’ :shock:

    The worst top 4 predictions of anyone watching the Super 14…do you ?

    Stormers will finish about 8th Dean

    Blues probably the only team that will definitely make the Semis

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.04.10 17:05:54 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 24) : I would put a lot of money that at least 3/4 of those would be right.

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.04.10 17:14:26 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 24) : Oh, and no, I think the Stormers have learnt a lesson that if they start with Ricky Januarie, they lose. They won’t make that mistake this weekend or any other one. Duvenhage HAS to start and they’ll finish top 4.

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.04.10 17:17:57 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 25) : Dean the Stormers will be lucky to get another point they are rubbish.. so they are obviously not one of your 4

    Saders maybe….Bulls just

    But Chiefs big call

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.04.10 17:21:17 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 26) : Stormers will get smashed this weekend next weekend and the one after that…..then they return home for easy games against the Crusaders and Bulls.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.04.10 17:24:11 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 27) : Somebody is being a sore looser…with the except of last weekend – Stormers are playing some of the best rugby in the tournament.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.04.10 17:24:38 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 26) : Yeah my thoughts – I think Alistair had to to start panic mechanic for PDV’s sake – but lets hope that the point has been proven. Ricki needs to put out to pasture now…not even good enough at provincial level.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.04.10 17:26:29 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 29) : With that logic i think you will want to forget about the coming three weekends as well.

    They will get absolutely battered on saturday.

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.04.10 17:29:45 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 28) : Who on earth is in your top 4 if not them? Stormers have conceded 75 points in 7 rugby games including the Brumbies, Hurricanes and the Waratahs? They play the Bulls and Saders at home and just probably need 1 win from the next 3 games against the Reds, Blues or Chiefs. Hardly a tough ask.

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.04.10 17:30:38 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • Hey HH, you reckon we’re rubbish?? Lol
    Well, if we’re rubbish then the ‘weed smoking’ highlanders dont deserve to play in this tourney based on your 0-33 loss hey?? Hehehe
    Seriously though, i doubt we will finish 8th… Maybe 5th but definitely not 8th…

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.04.10 17:31:03 by wpw Reply
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  • 5th being a worst case senario of course… :wink:

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.04.10 17:33:23 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 33) : don’t let him get to you my friend :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.04.10 17:36:33 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 31) : Actually with the logic that the Stormers have 72% victory rate in the tournament as opposed to the 32% victory rate of the “landers” the Stormers should win. All the games though however hold the promise of some exciting rugby. Grumpy.

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.04.10 17:36:38 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • let’s keep it civil. lads :)

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.04.10 17:37:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 32) : @wpw (Comment 33) : Well my thinking is 40 points is needed to definitely make the semis.

    Now you guys have 24 …16 short that 4 wins from here ………who are they….that 4 wins from 5

    i think your best chance is to win your two games at home and you may have a chance against the Reds….thinking again no you don’t.

    But if you did win three that only 36 points which is short of 4th

    What games do you honestly think you will win ?

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.04.10 17:38:15 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • well me need some help me got so much on tgis mindof mine that mr don’t know what to do me caravan and all can’t think straight at all :cry:
    LMS going to be tight for me this week :???:
    Cheetahs Lions Blues Chiefs Brumbies & Force so you big rugby guys give me some help other wise if me chose the wrong team me dead :cry:

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.04.10 17:39:39 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : I’m civil Rob :cool:

    But i shouldn’t call the Stormers rubbish after a 33- zip loss should i

    I made a call here before the Force game to Puma that i thought the Stormers wouldn’t win another game and i’ll stand by it. :cool:

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.04.10 17:41:01 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 36) : Grumpy Yes :???:

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.04.10 17:42:11 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 41) : No shit Sherlock… :roll:

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.04.10 17:43:29 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 34) : I’ll stick with 8th…but you know my thoughts :x

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.04.10 17:43:44 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 42) : Any thoughts where your 16 points are coming from……be careful could end up like me ! :???:

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.04.10 17:45:22 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 38) : as a neutral here I’ve gotta say besides the 2 games januarie has started the stormers have been the most clinical team in the competition. Not the helter skelter style confusing the kiwi sides and the bulls sometimes but a style that’s necessary to win big rugby games. A more than solid defence,a good goal kicker and a backline with atleast 2 players who are absolutely world class. Yes they have tough games ahead but rubbish? I don’t think so..

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.04.10 17:46:31 by zenrugby Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 40) : Probably a little moderation with the use of the word “rubbish” would get your point across. When infact the Stormers aren’t “rubbish” . This is a very close S14 – when last did we see the top 10 teams so closely grouped. The fact is that the Chiefs, Blues, Red and the Stormers could all win on any given day…

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.04.10 17:47:03 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 44) : Hey I am a Sharks supporter – I chuffed with our three wins….

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.04.10 17:47:55 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @zenrugby (Comment 45) : Nicely said.

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.04.10 17:48:39 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @zenrugby (Comment 45) : No not rubbish i retract that !

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.04.10 17:49:24 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 44) : Stormers have 6 games left and 3 from 6 with 4 bonus points could even see them get up to 40. I am a Sharks fan though so don’t really care.

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.04.10 17:49:33 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 46) : Why don’t you just say any team on their day could win !

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.04.10 17:50:46 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 47) : You should be they were all by the skin of your teeth !

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.04.10 17:51:38 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 51) : Because we are talking about the Stormers next games aren’t we? refer to your comment # 31. :???: Think you need some chocolate dude..chill.

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.04.10 17:53:10 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 52) : As were the Chiefs, Waratahs and Brumbies games against the Sharks!

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.04.10 17:53:35 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 50) : I’m forgetting about the Sharks game….who will win that another close one !

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.04.10 17:53:43 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 52) : A win is a win is a win…..

    Black and White – All that Matters!

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.04.10 17:53:54 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 53) : Honestly Dean i’m telling you from 40 years of pain at that place there is no way they will beat the Blues on Saturday.

    They have more chance against the Chiefs but as you eluded to in your article the Chiefs are bubbling along quite nicely i think they will beat the Bulls on Saturday.

    ….and unfortunately you have the Reds a week too late

    ……now where is that chocalate.

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.04.10 17:57:14 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 55) : Who is your top 4 then?

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.04.10 17:57:27 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 56) : You sound like Martin Johnson.

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.04.10 17:57:59 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 58) : You know what Dean i haven’t worked it out.

    I think one team will qualify with less than 40 points

    A lot being made of the Tahs…but dare i say it i think even we will beat them.

    Blues and Crusaders definitely

    Then it’s close i’d be guessing but maybe Bulls and Brumbies

    ….but it’s close

    ………..i’ll have a closer look tonight but i think i have two.

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 57) : There is no point trying to say that. Right now they are better placed than the Blues and I think they have a better chance against them. The Blues have been average for most of the season. Just because they lifted themselves (and exhausted themselves) against the Bulls, doesn’t mean they are a great side suddenly. The Blues game plan that worked on Saturday won’t work against the Stormers. The Stormers strength is not at the collision points which is where the Blues won on Saturday. I don’t think you can write the Stormers off so early. In fact, even trying to predict a top 4 now is futile because the top 10 are all still in with some kind of shot. And anyway, if the Stormers beat the Sharks on 8 May, I have to get an earring. I am not that keen on that happening anyway!

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.04.10 18:04:14 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 57) : actually the stormers have had a few good wins away to the blues, I even remember toderai chavhanga chipping and then running around smoking joe a few yrs ago. The stormers prefer playing sides like the blues to the more structured sides. It should be interesting

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.04.10 18:05:23 by zenrugby Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 60) : OK, just looked at the Blues’ remaining fixtures and they are in their favour so if I could change my preds, I would replace Chiefs with Blues but stick to Bulls, Saders, Stormers and then Blues. Blues play Cheetahs, Lions, Force and Chiefs still.

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.04.10 18:07:49 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 61) : Yeah – It don’t think that the Blues will recover so easily from Saturdays game. The physicality in that game was monumental.

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.04.10 18:08:49 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 56) : agree a win is a win :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.04.10 18:08:51 by Chaz Reply

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  • I think this weeks games will be a good indication of where the bulls and stormers are really at in terms of their ability away from home but u must remember that newlands and loftus are the fullest and most intimidating stadiums in the competition at present.

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.04.10 18:09:05 by zenrugby Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 60) : Oh, and to answer your thoughts about the Stormers, their points difference is 101, that’s 31 better than 2nd place and 102 better than the Blues! That must count for something

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.04.10 18:09:48 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 61) : Dean i’m telling you they won’t get close…….and Dean the Blues have been excellent all season other than their first match against the Canes where they looked like they didn’t know what the sport was.

    …..they will win a few matches from here on in against the mighty Force, Lions and Cheetahs…..what the Stormers would do for those fixtures.

    Blues the only definite Semi Finalist for me…. everything else up for grabs.

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 67) : Only if your even on points at the end of the season.

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.04.10 18:13:10 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 68) : Time will tell, I think you are wrong. Stormers might lose on Saturday, I agree, but it will be a lot closer than you think. If they had thrashed the Force, then they might have been in for a lethargic hiding but they will bounce back now. Anyway, I am not a fortune teller so I will wait for Saturday

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.04.10 18:17:32 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • what do you guys think about going for brumbies on LMS :oops:

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.04.10 18:17:40 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 68) : “Blues have been excellent all season other than their first match”..then why are they placed 8th. :???:

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.04.10 18:24:53 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 70) : Look forward to your log next week… ;-)

    Just don’t leave out the Blues and have the Stormers in there. ;-)

  • Comment 73, posted at 06.04.10 18:25:01 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 72) : waiting for sharks to take over eeehhh :smile: ;-)

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.04.10 18:29:26 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 72) : Very good question….close losses i guess….and close wins for that matter.

    But honestly they have been excellent all season.

    Butchered a win against the Tah gifting an intercept

    Lost their first match and got hammered by the Crusaders.

    They look good …. have some fire power !

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.04.10 18:31:06 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • 16 points from 6 games will be like taking candy from a baby for the Stormers.

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.04.10 18:32:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 74) : :cool: :cool:

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.04.10 18:33:36 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • So far the 2 matches the Stormers lost were very close.

    Brumbies got in through an intercept, and the wors caught them at probably their 2nd worst game of the season.

  • Comment 78, posted at 06.04.10 18:33:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 71) : I’d go Cheetah’s they look amazing in attack and defence and should win well away from home this weekend against the Brumbies before humiliating the Crusaders next weekend. They may be tired by then but i expect them to win comfortably against the Chiefs on the following weekend and then return home to rub the Blues noses in it.

    In summary Cheetahs ….safe bet !

  • Comment 79, posted at 06.04.10 18:35:15 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Weren’t the Canes going to show the world how to beat the Stormers by keeping ball in hand? Running them of their feet, just like the Blues are going to do this weekend. Something about big strike runners. 37-13 I think it was. :razz:

  • Comment 80, posted at 06.04.10 18:36:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 76) : So where are they coming from…. :?:

  • Comment 81, posted at 06.04.10 18:36:59 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 80) : I think the Canes only have one strike runner :roll:

  • Comment 82, posted at 06.04.10 18:38:32 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 76) : hi mclovin gee when i got on thought we had a shrink on our sharksworlds but we wining now so the shrink is not needed eeeehhhh ;-)

  • Comment 83, posted at 06.04.10 18:39:46 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 75) :can I give you an objective point of view on why they are 8th and on nz teams bar the crusaders. I don’t mean to seem condecending so pls don’t percieve it that way. I think blues,chiefs hurricanes and yes even the highanders are sometimes tactically naieve.choosing artistry over industry not all the time but often when it matters. As a sa supporter I’m always more wary of the crusaders,even when the team on paper seems inferior to some othe nz teams, as they are astute tacticians who play complete football. Ie they kick well and know when to run and when to keep it tight.

  • Comment 84, posted at 06.04.10 18:42:00 by zenrugby Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 81) : They might lose against the Saders or Reds.

    Reds because it’s the last match of the tour, and after spanking the Blues & Chiefs it’ll will be pretty much job done. They’ll have one foot on the plane.

    Crusaders because it’s their first match back after a long tour. Tired and jetlagged the Saders only hope. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 85, posted at 06.04.10 18:43:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 82) : Not what they were saying before they landed in South Africa. :twisted:

  • Comment 86, posted at 06.04.10 18:44:06 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 83) : I’m here for the fans. Keeping expectations realistic and all that. :twisted:

  • Comment 87, posted at 06.04.10 18:46:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 85) : Brilliant….keep the dream alive ……i just hope Burger enjoys his trip down under…they are ready to welcome him !

  • Comment 88, posted at 06.04.10 18:48:34 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @zenrugby (Comment 84) : Just as long as NZ teams don’t set out on a rolling maul inside their own half….i’ll walk out.

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.04.10 18:49:32 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 86) : The Cane’s only have Nonu can’t think of any other strike runners can you :?:

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.04.10 18:51:33 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 88) : He (Burger) always does. Almost like a holiday for him. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.04.10 18:51:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 87) : that great eeehhh ;-)

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.04.10 18:52:03 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 90) : Nope.

  • Comment 93, posted at 06.04.10 18:53:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • well me don’t think the bulls stormers and maybe the lions are going to make it this week-end i’ve got this ugly feeling i hope i not right :cry: :oops:

  • Comment 94, posted at 06.04.10 19:03:32 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 94) : I also hope your’e wrong. I picked them all for wins on SB. :shock:

    No really, not making it up. :smile:

  • Comment 95, posted at 06.04.10 19:07:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • shit i went against all SA teams me don’t like it at all :cry:

  • Comment 96, posted at 06.04.10 19:11:07 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 89) : there is nothing better than seeing a 50meter maul and winning about 5 penalties on the trot cause ur opponents are clueless about how to stop it!

  • Comment 97, posted at 06.04.10 19:19:16 by zenrugby Reply

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  • well guys off for the night :sad: see all tomorrow cheers :mrgreen:

  • Comment 98, posted at 06.04.10 19:33:00 by Chaz Reply

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  • As always, excellent humour. Mighty fine.

  • Comment 99, posted at 06.04.10 19:43:17 by perran_dw Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 58) : Had a quick look !

    1 Bulls 43
    2 Saders 43
    3 Blues 42
    4 Tahs 41

    5 Chiefs 39
    6 Brumbies 39
    7 Reds 38
    8 Sharks 34
    9 Stormers 34
    10 Canes 31

  • Comment 100, posted at 06.04.10 19:44:37 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @zenrugby (Comment 97) : Don’t you just all detach then re attach.! End of rolling maul forever !

  • Comment 101, posted at 06.04.10 19:46:40 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 100) : You’ve got the Stormers at 9th now…people’s gonna be mad! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 102, posted at 07.04.10 08:16:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 102) : They already are …..and that was being generous with home wins against the Bulls and Saders.

    Still gave them 34 Points…how many do you think they will get ?

  • Comment 103, posted at 07.04.10 08:36:27 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 102) : @Hertford Highlander (Comment 103) :

    Who are they?? :mrgreen: :lol:

    Nah man, HH is entitled to his opinion!!! ;-)

  • Comment 104, posted at 07.04.10 09:18:46 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 104) : Don’t panic i’m regularly wrong ! ;-)

  • Comment 105, posted at 07.04.10 09:43:33 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 105) :

    I know… like your prediction that last week would be your big move on FL. hahaha :mrgreen:

  • Comment 106, posted at 07.04.10 09:52:07 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 106) : Ohhhh come on …………………….

    i’m on the move just improved 5 places that all…..this week…this week !

  • Comment 107, posted at 07.04.10 09:57:30 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 103) : 32…so that’s even worse than your prediction.

  • Comment 108, posted at 07.04.10 10:14:35 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 108) : Maybe 34/36 with a couple of bonus points, I don’t think they’ll loose by much, so they’ll pick up a couple.

  • Comment 109, posted at 07.04.10 10:15:43 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 109) : I think 32 might be closer to the mark….so where does that place them in your log …or are you too scared to announce it ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 110, posted at 07.04.10 10:21:29 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • hahahaha. Enjoyed this article… :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 111, posted at 07.04.10 10:35:36 by Puma Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 110) :

    HH
    I hope you will be man enough to show up WHEN the Stormers prove you wrong!!

    They could end up with 32/34 points like you predict but I am backing them to make the semis and to beat the Bulls and the Saders!!! :roll:

  • Comment 112, posted at 07.04.10 10:45:38 by wpw Reply
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  • Deanoelsch, it’s a pity that one comment put me off reading the article further. There is really a good reason for not bringing politics to the site.
    I am sure you know that there is plenty of Afrikaans who support as well as play for the Sharks.

  • Comment 113, posted at 07.04.10 10:49:22 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 113) : I’m sure Dean didn’t mean it like that, but you are right. There’s a very good reason why we shy away from stuff like that.

  • Comment 114, posted at 07.04.10 10:53:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 113) : I seriously wasn’t mocking anyone who speaks Afrikaans… I will refrain from any references to anything that isn’t rugby in the future and make sure I don’t offend anyone. Is mentioning the Easter bunny ok though? ;-) ;-) ;-)

  • Comment 115, posted at 07.04.10 11:01:53 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 112) : Always man enough Wes…..Wes i’ve given them wins against the Bulls and Saders at home and 34 points….but i think Semi Teams will need 41+ points.

    However this weekend is huge if they can put the Blues away they (Blues) are in trouble…..unfortunately won’t happen !

    Next 3 games could bank them a Semi….all tough though !

  • Comment 116, posted at 07.04.10 11:05:06 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 115) : I like your articles. They are already very funny and I felt that resorting to a political joke especially this gravity and now of all times was not necessary.

    I would be very cautious with the bunny. They have trade unions ;-)

  • Comment 117, posted at 07.04.10 11:08:57 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 117) : Point taken.

  • Comment 118, posted at 07.04.10 11:20:54 by deanoelsch Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 118) : @deanoelsch (Comment 118) : thanks to both of you. I REALLY do appreciate the mature way we settle our differences here, in contrast to some other places on the interweb… :)

  • Comment 119, posted at 07.04.10 11:24:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 118) : And don’t call us Weed Smokers :x

  • Comment 120, posted at 07.04.10 11:24:42 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 118) : thanx.

  • Comment 121, posted at 07.04.10 11:29:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 110) : 8th,9th,10th…it’s going to be very congested in the middle of the log so one log point could move a team 2 or three log positions, depending on their PD.

  • Comment 122, posted at 07.04.10 11:38:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 122) : Very true ….ive looked closely at the last round

    With the Blues and Saders returning from SA they play the Chiefs and Brumbies …what will the table look like if they lose those ?

  • Comment 123, posted at 07.04.10 11:42:55 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Crusaders 45
    Brumbies 41
    Bulls 40
    Waratahs 36
    Sharks 36
    Blues 36
    Hurricanes 34
    Chiefs 33
    Stormers 32
    Reds 29
    Highlanders 15
    W.Force 13
    Cheetahs 13
    Lions 3

  • Comment 124, posted at 08.04.10 08:51:18 by Letgo Reply
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  • The Reds plays the Bulls and the Brumbies. If they can beat either one of those teams it will open up the chase for top 4 even more.

  • Comment 125, posted at 08.04.10 08:53:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • And if the Stormers and the Bulls win against the Crusaders…even the Crusaders might not look so save, this is an exciting Super 14. I just Wish the Sharks had won at least one more up to this point. That would have given us 40 with only wins no bonus points and that looks a lot better.

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