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Sharks get the job done


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 19 Apr 2010 at 07:10
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Looking back at the Sharks’ 32-28 victory over the Lions on Saturday night, I can’t help borrowing a line from enigmatic seventies folk hero Sixto Rodriguez: “It started out so nice…”Despite a reasonably jittery opening, the visitors found, just as eight other teams have this season, that if you apply lots of pressure to the Lions defensive line, it completely disintegrates. With Jean Deysel and Willem Alberts in tandem, alternately knocking the stuffing out of the Lions ball carriers and crossing the advantage line at will, Ruan Pienaar had a plentiful supply of quick ball for the backs and although those outside the lanky halfback still didn’t look particular sharp on the day, they didn’t really have to do much other than regulation catch-draw-and-pass to score the first two tries. Bismarck du Plessis interacted nicely with John Smit to score the third and with scarcely 25 minutes played, the Sharks were well on their way to a bonus point and firmly in control.

But nothing ever goes that smoothly for the Sharks and here it was no exception. Something changed, however slight, in the way they approached the game. A little bit of arrogance started to creep in, perhaps neglect of the basics; a loose pass here, an overcooked punt there. The aggressive rush defence, so key to the early dominance, was also no longer there and with Carlos Spencer sensing the change, the Lions stepped up a gear. The Sharks have shown on numerous occasions this year that they are incredibly vulnerable to the flat pass and within a horror 5-minute spell, the Lions had used this simple trick twice and were suddenly within a point of the Sharks.

A Ruan Pienaar penalty on the stroke of half-time ultimately proved decisive, though, as a thoroughly entertaining, yet ultimately deadlocked second half resulted in ten extra points for each side, but no change to the half-time margin. The Lions, to their credit, tackled manfully and their defence improved along with the self-belief that came from staying in the game for so long. Even after the Sharks scored what should have been the match-clincher – a pearler of a try that saw Jacques Botes dot down after strong work from both Deysel and Alberts – the Lions held on and then came back, scoring a superb long-range effort of their own and holding the Sharks out on a number of other occasions.

For the Sharks, some pretty woeful decision-making and poor execution made their lives far more difficult than they should have been. This team needs to learn how to be ruthless and while scoring the bonus point was in itself an important step, we should not overlook the fact that the Lions came bloody close – far, far too close – to winning the game themselves. Bonus points mean nothing if you lose.

Apart from the loosies, the rest of the pack did pretty well, although they’ll be disappointed about how well the Lions managed to counter the rolling maul. Lineouts were also a shambles until Al Hargreaves got onto the park. Pienaar and Lambie were again the pick of the backs, with Stefan Terblanche and JP Pietersen turning in pretty shocking performances that they’ll want to forget.  Congratulations must go to winger Lwazi Mvovo, who finally earned his first Super 14 cap when he replaced Pietersen late in the second half.

Spare a thought, if you will, for poor bloody Craig Burden, whose sole contribution was the five minutes he spent on the flank while Alberts was in the blood-bin. He’s a superb player, is Burds and he’s being wasted on the bench – surely his development at hooker would benefit far more from Vodacom Cup gametime at this stage?

All things aside, though, it was yet another much-needed win for the Sharks and one feels that earlier in the season, they wouldn’t have found a way to close this one out the way they did. The team has now won four in a row and although the elusive semi-final dream is still theoretically alive, it’s going to take a vastly-improved performance to repeat the bonus-point victory feat against the Blues this weekend.



122 Comments

  • I’m glad we won but it is a bit worrying that after being 19 – 6 up the Lions came so close to winning the game. Sharks needs to get the hammer to the nail and seal the coffin.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.04.10 07:29:30 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Dammit I feel for these guys. Every match is pretty much a last match for them, based on their chances of getting into the semi finals. I see massive improvement from them as every game passes. So long as it continues, very little will stop them.

    The only concern is that the Sharks have never really been a Try scoring team. Suddenly they need to change their strategy in order to secure these bonus points. From what I can see from Saturday’s game, they definitely have the ability to score many tries, but as you said robdylan, they faltered in other areas, and will need to work on a full proof game plan to get these bonus points in the 4 upcoming games.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.04.10 07:54:21 by John Jardin Reply

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  • If we kept playing like we did, the Lions would not have gotten that close. It’s our own fault. For some reason the Sharks can only play good rugby when they have another team threatening to win.
    When we get a decent lead we always give it away, it’s so annoying.

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.04.10 08:51:48 by Letgo Reply
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  • My thoughts exactly, Rob.

    But one has to give credit to the Lions, who never gave up and exploited our now famous defensive frailties from broken play.

    It just goes to show that one mistake can lead to a 14-point turnaround, give the opposition some hope and even lose you games. In the end I felt we were very lucky to win – and we should have buried the Lions before half time already.

    Too many schoolboy errors still hampering our team.

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.04.10 08:53:22 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 3) : that is so true win up till the last moment and loose by 1 or even 3 why can’t they play great rugby and stop kicking the ball away so much and run with it use the front line that is why they are there or am i wrong one team that plays together is a wining team but must say sharks played one hell of a game and they played together but that game was so close it would of been :evil: :twisted: if we loost of game to the Snoils

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.04.10 09:00:15 by Chaz Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 4) : true but don’t think we will make the semis might just be to late for that so why not use the school boys and get them ready for the CC & S15 :razz:

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.04.10 09:02:01 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 6) : The only problem is that the schoolboys didn’t exactly play the world on fire in the Vodacom Cup game against the Pampas XV. Probably the only player in our current VC side that is good enough to play S14 rugby is Kyle Brown. :cry:

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.04.10 09:18:21 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Need to start with Hargreaves this week, until he came on our Lineouts was terrible. Also Stefan and JPP had a terrible game. How I wish we had quality centres and FH.

    Agree only Lambie and Ruan played well again. Ruan playing well at scrummie and FH. Odwa was not bad and made some good tackles. Would love to have Mvovo start instead if JPP who was terrible on Saturday, but against the Blues we will need the experience of JPP. Can we beat the Blues with a 4 try bonus point? Not so sure about that. I hope I am wrong. Blues are in with a damn good chance of making the semi. They play Lions, Cheetahs and Force. I feel they would fancy their chance against those teams to pick up 5 points, so will be coming at us not only for a win but the 5 points. We need to be at our very best and no handling errors this week. First time tackles is a MUST, need to win all our Lineouts. Just get the basics right and maybe it will go well. A win would be great not too worried about the 5 points as I said don’t think we will make the semi. Just go for the win Sharks, maybe the 5 points then will come. Trying for the 5 points from the start will put too much pressure on the players. Then all the mistakes come.

    Deysel was superb. Why he has been coming off the bench before was just plain crazy. Deysel should have been starting all the time. I think we also miss Kanko’s pace.

    SHARKS FOR EVER………………GOOOOOOOOOOO SHARKS. Hope the stadium is fullhouse too. Those in Durbs get to the Stadium and support our boys.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.04.10 09:25:46 by Puma Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 7) : True he is a good play and if put in the S14 or even CC he will show his stuff like Lambie did and that is what we were asking the whole time bring the baby sharks one by one sometime we are going to have to some of our guys are going to retire after the WC and what then and some are alredy going for the money etc :oops:

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.04.10 09:30:04 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 8) : what happened to your pic :sad:

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.04.10 09:30:54 by Chaz Reply

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  • Who the hell is Kyle Brown?

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.04.10 09:44:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : i don’t know just went with to see if rhineshark is not pulling my leg :oops: ;-)

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.04.10 09:50:50 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : did you get my e-mail :oops: last night

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.04.10 09:52:23 by Chaz Reply

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  • must go till later :sad:

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.04.10 09:53:20 by Chaz Reply

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  • Charl McLeod is also good enough.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.04.10 10:33:07 by Letgo Reply
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  • Kyle cooper looks like a pretty promising hooker

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.04.10 10:34:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • Both our prop, wiehan and cilliers could probably make the step up when called upon.

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.04.10 10:35:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 8) : Swannie had a pretty good game when he got possession of the ball.

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.04.10 10:37:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Cooper :oops: :oops: :oops: :grin:

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.04.10 10:39:10 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 18) : It seems he doesn’t have a problem with doing something decent with the ball, but he doesn’t get the ball enough for an inside center. Whether that’s he’s fault or coach or teammates, I’m not sure.

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.04.10 10:39:14 by Letgo Reply
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  • It was quite concerning how the Sharks VX scrum got hammered against the PampasVX. Those Argies were all over the sharks front row

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.04.10 10:47:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Voldy ‘claims’ to have spoken to Gysie Pienaar and he says that Ruan isn’t going anywhere. Ruan still has a contract with the Sharks untill end 2011 it seems

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.04.10 10:51:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) :
    That was what I thought as well but then read in yesterdays papers that that was essentially the Argentine team except for those that are playing professionally overseas, so that put it into a bit of perspective. Their scrum was very good and they were huge in gathering the high ball.

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.04.10 11:05:25 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) : well now that is just great news my friend :lol:

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.04.10 11:31:00 by Chaz Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 19) : thought you meant him… I’m just being a miserable pedant :)

    I actually think they should have Coops on the Super 14 bench and let Burden play 80 minutes every week in the Vodacom Cup.

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.04.10 11:49:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • thanks Rob. If I had said Stefan and JP were woeful at best, there would have been the usual outcry. They butchered 4 definite tries between them through shocking decision making. I was impressed with Swannie. He made some good breaks, just his pace let him down. I was a little disappointed with Rory as well. In the past few games the Rory Ruan combo was great, Rory ruined it on Saturday. Rory bugs me, he has so much potential, but he stuffs around.

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.04.10 11:55:49 by try time Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) : yeah i was pleased plum never listened to robs pleas to bring in rhodes, ndlovu or downey. all three were poor on friday. but i suppose you can say they won. That is all that counts. Monty battled at 15. Looks like another area the sharks need to look at beefing up.

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.04.10 12:01:40 by try time Reply

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  • i see the sharks may not need to go to loftus. the bulls might be forced to play their remaining games somewhere else.

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.04.10 12:17:51 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : No worries – I should know my players, being a Sharkie an’ all :grin:

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.04.10 12:22:29 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 28) : askies?

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.04.10 12:59:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : aricle on superrugby…the pitch is not up to SWC standard yet. :roll:

    The Bulls probably wouldn’t mind playing in Durbs since they have quite a good record at Kingspark ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.04.10 13:08:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 28) : :shock: why :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.04.10 13:09:49 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : and then we will get them :lol:

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.04.10 13:10:32 by Chaz Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 29) : ;-) i’m still learning who my players are everytime i look there are players i don’t know still have to put the face with the names :oops:
    and the xv because i don’t watch well its not even televised so me must learn to put names to the faces so if one makes a fault its not so bad i do them some of the times :oops:
    Sorry guys XV Sharks :oops: ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.04.10 13:15:25 by Chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 26) : i agree about rory, i have never liked him. when rory came on it was pretty similar to when januarie came on for the stormers. suddenly it took ages to get the ball away from the breakdown.

    these two okes spend too much time making up their minds, and then inevitably decide to go it alone. a scrummy must do a scrummy’s job first, then he can be fancy.

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.04.10 13:16:55 by knersboy Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : from superrugby;

    “Their appearance before the committee stems from the concerns of the chairman of the parliamentary portfolio committee on sport, Butana Komphela, who has personally inspected the playing pitches at Loftus and Vodacom Park where World Cup soccer matches are to be played and is unhappy about the condition of the surfaces.”

    Old butana (i wonder if he knows what his name means in greek and some other southern european languages) obviously has a degree in agriculture and understands all about pitches.

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.04.10 13:20:20 by knersboy Reply

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  • we were all worried about the Snoils but gee my nerves are starting up again :roll: the BLUES hope we have it to win it :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.04.10 13:20:38 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : you know Pokkel i bleed for the LOFTUS if was Sharks TANK that looked like that i think a whole lot of us will be the [email protected] in don’t you think and that just for the SWC :evil:

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.04.10 13:23:39 by Chaz Reply

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  • @knersboy (Comment 36) : Ja but the Loftus pitch looked disgracefull before they left for their overseas tour. It actually looked like they had two different types of grass planted there. I’m not surprised that Butana is moaning

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.04.10 13:29:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 27) : so because these players had one poor game, none of them are any better as a loose forward replacement than Craig Burden or Wilhelm Steenkamp? Madness…

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.04.10 13:30:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : yah well you know the bulls have been more interested in brandy and coke than grass.

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.04.10 13:31:47 by knersboy Reply

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  • @knersboy (Comment 41) : eeeee :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.04.10 13:33:38 by Chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : you wouldn’t really know unless they play against the same opposition now would you??

    Maybe I’m too critical but I was not at all impressed by the standard of rugby I saw on Friday in the VC

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.04.10 13:33:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Good afternoon !!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.04.10 13:35:34 by Charlie Reply

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  • :mrgreen: GO SHARKS GO :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.04.10 13:35:46 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 44) : Afternoon Charlie :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.04.10 13:36:18 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 44) : Jy beter nou regkom die Sharks het DRINGEND n buitesenter nodig.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.04.10 13:38:22 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Rob, it Madness firstly just based on the principal that you don’t judge a player on one game and the even more so, because this game was crap to say the least, it wasn’t just the loossies. It was scrappy all round and I would not look at a players performance in this game to judge if they are good enough to make the step up to super 14.

    It’s also hard to see if any of these players are any good, since you can’t really tel how strong the opposition is.

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.04.10 13:42:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • let’s leave BK out of this, ok? That name never fails to illicit trouble…

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.04.10 13:49:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • I also thought the Sharks VC team looked average. Did any of you watch the Lions game?? Earl was quite good at flyhalf. Maybe you should sign him??

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.04.10 13:49:34 by wpw Reply
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  • so do you guys agree with the decision to select Burden as the reserve hooker/loose-forward and then stick two locks on the bench just for good luck?

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.04.10 13:51:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : This isn’t politics it’s about the condition of the pitch so I think you over sensitive. We need to create a good impression during the SWC and the Loftus pitch is below par.

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.04.10 14:09:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : craig and wilhelm have been in the sharks setup for a while now. they know the calls they have practiced with the team, so it is a far safer move. rhodes ndlovu or downey would have been rushed in and expected to understand all the lineout calls etc. as for their one poor night i cannot argue, i haven’t seen them play any other games this season. But if that is the best they could do in an important vc game, then how good would they have been in a critical Super 14 game. I do however look forward to seeing them in Currie Cup. We are out of the Super 14 realistically after the reds and blues won, so maybe it isn’t a bad idea to start giving the boks a bit of a break and let the young guys have a go. But I see Plum’s concern, a good log position does ease the pressure on him. But in my books a 5 to 14 position on the log is all indicative of failure so does it matter if he makes the effort to strengthen the depth in his squad for a log position or two?

  • Comment 53, posted at 19.04.10 14:12:44 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : It was bound to be a very hard fought forwards battle which it proved to be with all the blood that flowed on Saturday. The Sharks XV needed their regular team to play in a very important match and Burden has been part of the Sharks setup for a long time without reward so I really don’t think a wrong decision was made. Burden was more than a adequate loose forward reserve IMO and Hargreaves would have been able to do the job as well so I see no problems with that decision whatsoever

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.04.10 14:15:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : Rob, i was at the game and the game was turned on its head by a forward pass try from Killian. you could just see the lions believing again and the crowd getting behind their team. before that they were down and out(the team and their supporters). i must add that i give credit to the sharks for turning the game again. A lions team fuel by believe and momentum is a dangerous side(lets remember, there is nothing wrong with the lions attack, its just their defence that let them down). All and all, half time couldnt have come at a better time. We “should have” won by more but we could have easily got lost in the moment but we turned the momentum back round and finished. SHARKS FOREVER! (a big thumbs up for all the sharks supporters at Ellis park, there was a time it felt like durbs…)

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.04.10 14:18:26 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : yes. unless Plum decides it is time to look to the cc and s15, then drop wilhelm as he has no future with the sharks, and gamble with one of the lighties. another idea is for rhodes ndlovu or downey to take a risk and offer their services as a center. Obviously it needs to be a pacier of the three with good defence and ball skills. But if they really want to better their lot they need to find a spot that is vacant. and the sharks have plenty of backline spots needing to be filled.

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 55) : Just not as humid ;-)

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.04.10 14:20:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 52) :

    I think what Rob means is that we can still discuss the issue without bring BK into it!! ;-)

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  • @wpw (Comment 58) : yeah it just adds butane to the fire.

  • Comment 59, posted at 19.04.10 14:25:44 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 56) : you just lost all credibility with that suggestion, I’m afraid. Rhodes as a centre? I’m still laughing :)

    If we need a spare loose forward in the squad, I don’t see what’s wrong with giving one of the next tier players an opportunity to step up. Picking Steenkamp just to use up a slot is to me a wasted opportunity.

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  • @try time (Comment 59) : clever :)

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 55) : so you also thought the pass was forward? I thought it was pretty clear in real time, but the commentators didn’t mention it. Then again, we know Stranksy was too busy with the aftermath of his usual “someone just scored against the Sharks” orgasm to care, while Blades sounded like he was particularly under the weather before the game had even kicked off…

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.04.10 14:30:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) :
    I dont think Pedrie was expecting his pips to germinate.

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 63) : :lol:

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.04.10 14:36:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 57) : beer stays cool for longer ;-)

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : here is my thinking. sa has a wealth of loose forwards. but we have a severe shortage of quality centres. now an inside center doesn’t have to be super fast to be successful, but he needs to break the advantage line and defend well. all these attributes are expected from loosies. So why aren’t we looking at converting excess loosies into first centers. look at a guy like nonu. he isn’t fast, but he is hard to bring down. maybe rhodes isn’t centre material, as he is 10 kgs heavier than nonu, but i was making the suggestion to highlight the need for the sharks to try use what resources they have to fill the vacant spots in the team.

    but we definitely agree on wilhelm.

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.04.10 14:41:07 by try time Reply

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  • Rhodes definitely should look at working on being a lock. With muller gone, there is an opening.

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.04.10 14:46:36 by try time Reply

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  • And on the Wilhelm issue. If he is to be dropped, Muller should be dropped to the bench to give Hargreaves the game time he needs to improve even more. I am sure Johan wouldn’t mind. He has had a good run, and it will be good to take it a little easier or it could be a really long season for him.

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.04.10 14:49:44 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) : i think blades was just too busy with his whiskey to see… we were sitting near the corner, so couldnt see it at first, but my surrounding sharks fans saw it on the bigscreen. offcourse the lions supporters was going on about the pass was flat but momentum took it forward, thus it should not be called forward. but whatever we say, just before that try the sharks gave away a great 5 on 2 scoring oppertunity…

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.04.10 14:52:34 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 57) : and the girls… no stadium in SA comes close to Durbs chicks.

    i just want to add. Ellis park is a great stadium. just a shitty location…

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : against the Sharks they may have a better record there than at Loftus (I mean including CC games)

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.04.10 15:04:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 69) : no stefan did, don’t drag the sharks down with him. :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.04.10 15:06:23 by try time Reply

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  • oh rob with regard to burden as loose forward cover, i don’t see the problem there. schalk brits and derrick kuun succeeded in the move. and we have spoken before about bis maybe moving there to sort the hooker dilemma out. so why can’t burden succeed?

  • Comment 73, posted at 19.04.10 15:09:20 by try time Reply

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  • GO SHARKS !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 74, posted at 19.04.10 15:17:49 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 74) : :razz:
    how’s recovery?

  • Comment 75, posted at 19.04.10 15:18:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 72) : :lol: dont kill me saying it, but stefan had a better game than JP. i`m a fan of both, but on a night where we could attack at will, jp could have done more.

    another piece of info: that patrick lambie boy is one piece of well made rugby machinary… saw him in the warm ups, he can kick further with his left boot than andy with his right. i couldnt find anything wrong with him, neither could the girls in the row behind me :twisted:

  • Comment 76, posted at 19.04.10 15:19:14 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 69) : That pass was way forward, I called it at soon as the pass was made ;-)

  • Comment 77, posted at 19.04.10 15:21:03 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 75) : Coming on, lengthy lay-off ahead, hopefully back for Currie Cup and EOYT… ;-)

  • Comment 78, posted at 19.04.10 15:23:40 by Charlie Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 76) : it would be difficult to find a guy on the park who had worse game that JP :roll:

  • Comment 79, posted at 19.04.10 15:23:53 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 76) : This kid is a team player, I like him… :twisted:

  • Comment 80, posted at 19.04.10 15:25:09 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 77) : i must confess, at the moment of the pass i was busy giving Stefan my thoughts for buggering up the try!! :oops: but once again, who created the space for that movement where we almost scored?? Mr lambie! geez, i think i found my new hero…

  • Comment 81, posted at 19.04.10 15:25:10 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 78) : more time for blogging :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 19.04.10 15:25:28 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 79) : JP’s in a comfort zone ;-)

  • Comment 83, posted at 19.04.10 15:25:43 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 82) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 84, posted at 19.04.10 15:26:05 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 79) : dont get me wrong, JP`s got the talent and speed. he`s hesitating about everything. his overruning all the backline moves and when he gets the ball he stops. i must also add that the times the ball went his way the centres didnt give him any space to do his magic. and i think plum became fed up with him, thus the mvovo sub for jp. couldnt believe it. thought mvovo would come on for ndungane.

  • Comment 85, posted at 19.04.10 15:28:32 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 81) : But Stefan’s no centre, wing or fullback. ;-)

  • Comment 86, posted at 19.04.10 15:30:36 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 80) : his dicision making is out of this world. he sometimes(rarely) stuffs up the execution of it, but he`s still young. he reminds me of a young daniel carter.

  • Comment 87, posted at 19.04.10 15:33:25 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 87) : That laaitie is a class act… ;-)

  • Comment 88, posted at 19.04.10 15:34:08 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 86) : if we had adi at the outside centre, it would have been a different ball game. (thats what u want to hear hey?? ;-) )

  • Comment 89, posted at 19.04.10 15:35:07 by VanWilder Reply

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  • Nope…we need a centre in Adi’s place, not a makeshift one ;-)

  • Comment 90, posted at 19.04.10 15:36:39 by Charlie Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 81) : are you being influenced by girls ;-)

  • Comment 91, posted at 19.04.10 15:37:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 88) : no disrepect to Riaan swanepoel, but think about what jean at inside and adi at outside could mean for our backline. then i will go so far as to put a young flyhalf (whoever – out of the academy or wherever) in there. with ruan at scrummie and jean and adi outside him, enough experience to guide the lad.

  • Comment 92, posted at 19.04.10 15:38:08 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 85) : i think you put it just right. it looks like whenever he gets the ball instead of running straight he stops and starts bouncing from left to right and right to left in hesitation. just put your head down and run!

  • Comment 93, posted at 19.04.10 15:41:03 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 76) : no arguments there. as i said earlier, between the two they butchered 4 tries.

  • Comment 94, posted at 19.04.10 15:43:43 by try time Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 90) : i disagree – with centres its REALLY important to get the right partner. u usually get a great centre partnership or a gap in the midfield. (barritt and murray, nonu and smith) they complete each other. real jerry mcguirre stuff :-)

    @rekinek (Comment 91) : the girls may have been “under the influence” but thats the closest to influence i came ;-)

  • Comment 95, posted at 19.04.10 15:45:11 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 92) : Dream combo for the Sharks, but Jean will want to play for WP, even if it’s from the bench ;-)

  • Comment 96, posted at 19.04.10 15:46:13 by Charlie Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 92) : No I would rather invest in a youngster.

  • Comment 97, posted at 19.04.10 15:46:37 by try time Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 95) : Agree, but at this stage of Super 14 there’s no time for a centre combo to settle, they just need to do the job as a centre pair ;-)

  • Comment 98, posted at 19.04.10 15:52:10 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 96) : you might be suprised. he wants to play for boks at world cup. he needs game time for that. i still believe he will go to wp, but if we can give him captaincy (something we need) and a starting bearth at inside, he would seriously go for it IMO.

  • Comment 99, posted at 19.04.10 15:52:32 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 99) : wonder whether “three times lucky” will be applicable to him.

  • Comment 100, posted at 19.04.10 15:55:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 97) : im also one for a youngster, but you need experience in such a setup. take a look at our backline, there is no influencial player accept for stefan in the backline. all of the guys goes on quitely doing their own business. All of them need to be infuenced. Jean is just the guy to spark them all…

    @Charlie (Comment 98) : agree, but for next year?? i guess we will see alot of guys leaving after the WC hey?

  • Comment 101, posted at 19.04.10 15:56:49 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 101) : Ja alot of the senior guys will leave or retire after WC :sad:

  • Comment 102, posted at 19.04.10 15:59:27 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 100) : i really hope so. he deserves it. been a loyal servent to bok rugby for a long time now.

  • Comment 103, posted at 19.04.10 16:00:17 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 94) : i must add that with stefan drifting quite alot, what u guys didnt see on tv was the BIG gaps appearing behind them. all it needed was the inside ball or in JP`s case a cross behind stef to the gap. that was what really pissed me off… :twisted:

  • Comment 104, posted at 19.04.10 16:05:48 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 103) : i’ve been thinking about 2011 WC thing. It is very tempting to keep the guys that did the job well in 2007 but PdVie must be careful not to confuse experience with expiry date.

  • Comment 105, posted at 19.04.10 16:06:31 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 104) : Basic play for outside backs, the switch pass…

  • Comment 106, posted at 19.04.10 16:10:35 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 105) : If we’re getting them from Woolworths I think they will still be ok, come 2011 WC… :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 107, posted at 19.04.10 16:11:38 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 105) : youve got a good point. the talk after 2007 was to keep the core of the side which at the time was about 10-12 players. but i think time will tell. in the first time in about 20 years weve got a good pool of players. the one thing div shouldnt get confused with is to pick but one of the EOYT 2009 b squad boks.

  • Comment 108, posted at 19.04.10 16:12:24 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 106) : and you got the idea that that was what stef wanted jp to do. but jp just stopped running and stepped inside. anyways, done and dusted. bring on the blues and bulls. already have my “losie kaartjie” for the loftus clash.

  • Comment 109, posted at 19.04.10 16:15:35 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 109) : lucky you :cool: i see on computicket is sold out. Called ticket office and they told me that I can buy over the phone on Monday, but they may change their mind if they see the queue outside :roll:

  • Comment 110, posted at 19.04.10 16:22:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 109) : BTW what’s “losie kaartjie”?

  • Comment 111, posted at 19.04.10 16:23:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 111) : Free Bee in business trade… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 112, posted at 19.04.10 16:29:42 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 112) : Thanx :razz:
    as I said : lucky fish (uhhm excuse me.. guppy :mrgreen:

    but… where does he goes to get Freebees at Loftus :roll: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 113, posted at 19.04.10 16:33:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 113) : i`m actually lucky to sit in the Blue bulls referee`s executive box for that game. its not who you are, its who you know… :-) any referee`s you guys want me to “take care of” ;-)

  • Comment 114, posted at 19.04.10 16:46:48 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 26) : Rory got few nominations for Plonker of the weekend on Rugby365

    “for doing his best to try help the lions win on sat, thanfully his plan was foiled by poor handling… but well tried.”

    “For nearly causing thousands of heart attacks at Ellis Park!! ”
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 115, posted at 19.04.10 16:47:12 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 113) : i can give u a guys number who will surely have tickets left for that one. its the south gauteng supporters club(i think). last time out it was on the east pavilion, but with hundreds of sharks supporters. u want detail?

  • Comment 116, posted at 19.04.10 16:49:15 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 114) : let me think …. paul marks, walsh, lawrence (bryce), dickinson… ( i can keep going but how many can you “take care of” during 2 hours :mrgreen:

  • Comment 117, posted at 19.04.10 16:54:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 116) : yip :razz: :!:

  • Comment 118, posted at 19.04.10 16:56:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 118) : whats your e-mail adress?

  • Comment 119, posted at 19.04.10 19:00:16 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 119) : Can I ask Rob for yours and I’ll send you a mail to which you can reply with your guy’s details?

  • Comment 120, posted at 19.04.10 19:17:51 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 120) : no problem. sorry, mail adress quite private hey? ;-) anyhow, will send you the detail when i receive your mail.

  • Comment 121, posted at 19.04.10 20:36:01 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 121) : :cool: thanx

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