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Aussies looking forward to S15


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 25 Apr 2010 at 04:56
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If this year’s Super rugby finals were decided using next season’s new competition structure, the Waratahs, Reds and Brumbies would all make the grade.

Josh Rakic writes for The Sun-Herald that the 2011 finals set-up will feature six teams from three conferences – Australia, New Zealand and South Africa – with the top side from each guaranteed a position, meaning an Australian team will feature in the finals regardless of their competition points.

Furthermore, as many as three of the Australian teams could potentially qualify for the finals, with the final three ”wild card” finals berths being awarded to the teams with the most competition points.

”When you look at the make-up of the competition next year, it’s not just the conference format with the three national conferences that is exciting – the finals series really is something to cheer about,” ARU boss John O’Neill said.

”Six teams will qualify for the finals, and the top team in each conference will qualify automatically in spots one, two or three, with the final three spots made up of the three teams with the highest number of competition points in any of the three conferences.

”If we had the system this year, then we’d have three teams in the finals right now. So, besides the whole league table, every week you’ll be looking at the Australian conference.”

The finals guarantee is just another bonus for Australian rugby, which will welcome its fifth franchise, the Melbourne Rebels, into the competition next year – meaning all conferences now have five franchises.

All Australian franchises will play eight home games – the Waratahs, for example, hosting every Australian team and two sides from each of the two other conferences.

Seventy-five per cent of matches involving Australian teams will be played in Australia, giving fans more access to their favourite teams.

The Waratahs will travel to New Zealand and Africa just once in 2011, with back-to-back games in each continent.



13 Comments

  • However Mr O’Neil you have divided your states even further and one wonders if this will set Aussie Rugby back three years the way it did when the Force came into being. I think the broader format will favour the Aussies rugby in the long run, because it will get more air time and I think in about 5-6 years time Aussie rugby will be very healthy. The Poor old Kiwis are looking a bit dodgy at the moment, they no longer have the depth they used too have and I will be the first to admit that the lure of the euro is mainly responcible for this. I also believe that it will be short lived there is too much talent for it not to come right.

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.04.10 11:12:18 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 1) : :mrgreen:

    Looks an exciting new format…need to analyse it a bit further though.

    ….it’s helpful if you have a Lions and Cheetahs in your conference :smile:

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.04.10 16:40:21 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 2) :

    Man I didn’t even THINK about that. :lol:

    SA to Rule the wild cards :lol:

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.04.10 17:23:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : Then again they are all Derby matches aren’t they …..which are never easy…..i need to look if they play home and away ?

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.04.10 17:32:34 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 4) :

    YIP they do

    here is the set up.

    Teams will be divided into three national conferences of five teams each. The sides play the other four teams in their conference twice (home and away).

    However, they play only four of the five teams in each of the other conferences, once each.(4 NZ and 4 Aus) Four of those matches will be at home and four away. In total, each team will play 16 matches a season, excluding playoffs. (8 domestic conference, 4 Aus 4 NZ)

    The playoffs will consist of the three conference winners and three “wild card teams” with the highest number of points.

    The play-offs will include two sudden-death qualifiers followed by the semifinals.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.04.10 17:46:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : So do the Conference winners go straight into a semi

    …..then is it WC2 v WC3….. winner v WC1

    ….so are the Semis the Conference Team with the most points v WC Qualifier

    eg….CW1 v WCQ …CW2 v CW3

    So….. It’s Bulls v Sharks Crusaders v Warratahs

    ….making the final

    …..Bulls v Crusaders at Loftus

    ……Result Bulls by 30 points

    ……..some things never change :cry:

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.04.10 17:56:33 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 6) :

    No I don’t think so.

    I am not sure how the play off positions will be determined but i think it will be the same as the Heineken Cup.

    Log points determine positions.
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6

    So I think the play offs would be (home team first)

    3 v 6 (m1)
    4 v 5 (m2)

    1 v Winner m2 (m3)
    2 v winner m1 (m4)

    Winner m3 v Winner m4 With the highest place play-off log position having home ground adv

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.04.10 18:04:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : So you could win your conference and end up ranked 6th…..then again that realistically is not going to happen…..

    …..but then again if you have a close conference you are likely to end up further down the qualifing log.

    ….love it….bring it on.

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.04.10 18:12:08 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 8) :

    I would like to see a ruling where the top team from each conference is placed 1,2 & 3 determined by THEIR log points. Then 4,5 & 6 (Wild cards)should be determined by THEIR log points but they should be placed BELOW 1,2, & 3.

    That way winning you conference helps a little. The guys who end up 1st and 2nd on the play off log have a great help by having a bye week before their semi final already. So therefore the guys who end top of their conference should at least be allowed to be placed above ANY Wild card AND get Home ground for the pre-semi play-off.

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.04.10 18:18:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : I totally agree….excellent call.

    Looks quite a bit of a long series already…..i guess there is no bye round during round robin play.

    Only time will tell….surely these details must be finalised already :?:

    ….must dash dinner to cook….over and out :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.04.10 18:23:20 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • The Heineken Cup has full 1/4 finals. 6 pools in the HC.

    For the quarter-final round, the Pool winners will be ranked 1 – 6 in terms of the number of points earned. The runners-up will be ranked 7 and 8.

    We won’t JUST be using runners up otherwise it would not be called a wildcard entry, it would just have been to top two from each conference going through to the round of 6 play-offs.

    SOOOOO You could end 3rd in your conference but have more points than the 2nd placed team in another conference, thus ensuring 3 teams from one country in the round of 6.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.04.10 18:27:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 10) :

    No there IS a bye. It is going to be a looooooong season.

    8 weeks of conference play
    1 week bye
    8 weeks of cross conference play
    1 round of 6 weekend
    1 semi final weekend
    1 final weekend

    So the whole comp runs for 20 weeks.

    THIS length will end the Currie cup as we know it.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.04.10 18:33:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) :

    However, they play only four of the five teams in each of the other conferences, once each.(4 NZ and 4 Aus)

    This sucks. So every year you will miss out ONE of the the NZ and ONE of the Aus teams.

    So in any one year you will not neccesarily play every other team in the comp to be the champions.

    I can already hear the “they may be the champions but they didn’t play us” calls.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.04.10 18:35:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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