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JP in doubt for Bulls and beyond


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 26 Apr 2010 at 14:07
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Sharks winger JP Pietersen hurt his knee against the Blues on Saturday and is in doubt for the upcoming game against the Bulls, if not the remainder of the Super 14 season.

Pietersen, who has been in frankly awful form this season, will need further tests and scans today to determine the extent of the injury and the prognosis for recovery, but coach John Plumtree seems to be expecting the worst; that is, making do without the World Cup hero for at least the next three games.

The silver lining here is that Pietersen’s replacement, young Lwazi Mvovo, grabbed his chance with both hands when he came on against the Blues and quickly proved to be one of the Sharks’ most dangerous attacking backs on the day (not that that’s saying too much!)

Here at Sharksworld, we have been clamouring for Mvovo to be given more opportunities ever since his superb cover tackle on Brian O’Dirscoll in the Sharks’ game against the British Lions last year and although one would never wish injury on anyone, this may be just what we need to get more young talent into the Sharks backline. Let’s not forget that it was an injury to Odwa Ndungane that opened the door for Pat Lambie five weeks ago…

We’ll update you further as more details emerge regarding the severity of Pietersen’s injury.



39 Comments

  • I think his injury might be a blessing in disguise :!: I’m sure Mvovo will deliver the goods – good luck to him.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.04.10 14:27:35 by MB1810 Reply
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  • anyone know how long louis Luddick is still going to be out??

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.04.10 14:35:56 by VanWilder Reply
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  • Pietersen out, eh? Suddenly our try ratio rockets up per game… :grin:

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.04.10 14:42:13 by CapeShark Reply
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  • JP definately needs time off…
    But in the mean time “Lets See Mvovo go”!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.04.10 14:46:08 by s.h.a.r.k.s Reply

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  • “one would never wish injury on anyone”….Any chance of Oupa Stef getting injured soon. I’d rather have Murray back, frankly…

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.04.10 14:51:08 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 5) :
    Murray seemed intent on running hard and straight in the VC game, well for the first half at least.

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.04.10 14:53:50 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I am surprised JP wasn’t dropped a while back. He has been in poor form and hasn’t seemed to get too involved in the game. It also hasn’t helped that by the time the backline has got the ball to him he has been marked by several defenders.

    Hopefully Mvovo will build on his performance against the Blues.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.04.10 14:55:11 by lostfish Reply
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  • we’re running out of three quarters, to be honest. JP and Odwa are both out of form, while Stef isn’t looking like much at outside centre either.

    In fact, since Stef is determined to play like a wing anyway (just running and kicking, no passing) I’d be tempted to put him at 14 with Mvovo at 11 and let Odwa play 13. I reckon he’d be better there, since he’s not too bad at making things happen, just a little slow to finish them off these days.

    But outside of those guys, there’s very little going on. I reckon Stemmet deserves a bench spot now… others like Zuks are quite honestly floundering. Then again, if we’re picking an outside back on form to come in from the Sharks XV, it should be Mark Richards, no questions asked.

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.04.10 15:01:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • as for Waylon, I think we should leave him with the XV for the time being

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.04.10 15:01:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • Damn but Mvovo is quick!! :shock:

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.04.10 15:25:28 by wpw Reply
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  • Not good news, but JPP has been out of form for awhile now. Mvovo will add some needed pace.

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.04.10 15:33:00 by Puma Reply

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  • What about Burden, he’s had no chance at hooker and can’t be any worse than Stef or Odwa? Retread him 360 :grin:

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.04.10 15:34:08 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 10) : and he’s BIG too. Very underrated, IMO. Has taken his chances much better than than Zuks has

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.04.10 15:36:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 12) : oh ja, now you remind me. I meant to write an article about that

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.04.10 15:37:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • Whoever we play on the wing will hopefully not get too much defending to do if we play our game right. The Bulls are blessed with the better backline, so we better play the type of game we played in the second half against the Blues.

    Sorry to Mvovo if I seem harsh, but as much as I’d like to see him succeed, I’m afraid he is a one-trick pony in that he has speed, but nothing much else. He doesn’t look for support, can’t kick and doesn’t create much.

    He will no doubt improve with experience, but at the moment he doesn’t add anything in place of JP.

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.04.10 15:42:02 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    I was just going to ask you if the Sharks have plans for young Burden??

    He has played at hooker for about 2 seasons now and yet he hasn’t had a chance to establish himself when John and Bissie are away on Bok duty. :???:

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.04.10 15:50:13 by wpw Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 15) : We’ve seen him a bit in the Currie Cup, but let’s watch him in the Super14. I really don’t think he’s had enough game time to be type-cast as a one-trick pony.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.04.10 15:50:56 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 15) : Movovo didn’t exactly set the world on fire but JO was poor in the recent weeks so there is not much loss for the Sharks. Although JP’s experience would be crucial defensively – methinks.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.04.10 15:52:25 by rekinek Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 17) : I would love for you to be right, but one can see very quickly if a player has that special “it” that we saw from youngsters like Mapoe or van den Heever.

    Unfortunately I just don’t see it in Mvovo. To me he is the same kind of wing as Mjekevu – lots of speed, but doesn’t seem to know how to create opportunities for themselves or their teammates.

    Much like the rest of the Sharks backline, if one is really honest.

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.04.10 16:03:13 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 18) : I think JP has been good on defense, but useless in most other facets. If Mvovo is going to make an impact it will have to be on attack, which is where I hope he makes me eat my words – methinks ;-)

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.04.10 16:05:10 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 19) : did you not see the run he put in on Saturday? that was special

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.04.10 16:05:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : I did. He put in a few good runs, actually. Did he do anything special? No. He did what 90% of other wings in SA would have done.

    Look, as I’ve said I like Mvovo. I just don’t think we should get too excited.

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.04.10 16:10:36 by rhineshark Reply
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  • We will miss JP when we kick off, he applied good pressure on the receivers. This is one area of the game where we can get at a soft spot in the Bulls game – in the first game the Cheetahs showed the way in kicking off into the middle of the field around the 22 mark and applying huge pressure to the receiving Kirchner through their wings, this tactic worked well and resulted in their first try. Bulls looked vulnerable at that stage.

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.04.10 16:15:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 22) : I think you’re being really harsh here :) If we consider how little Super 14 exposure he’s had and then compare him to our Bok duo of Odwa and Pietersen, he shows up very well. Which SA wings are you actually comparing him to?

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.04.10 16:15:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : I thought you might say that ;-)

    I am comparing him to youngsters like van den Heever and Mapoe, who from the getgo already had a certain quality that I just don’t see in our Mvovs.

    Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying he’s useless, because he’s far from that – just not that special. As I’ve mentioned I hope to the high heavens that he shuts my trap with some brilliant rugby and turns out to be SA’s next wing superstar.

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.04.10 16:29:57 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : listen guys, JP has experience, thats all. there was 2 forward passes to him over the weekend. why?? because he overruns the ball. and the only reason for that is that he hasnt got alot of confidence in his speed or ability to beat other wings… and THAT is something Mvovo believes he can do, and on saterdays performance, i believe so too… that guy has got gas to burn!

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.04.10 16:35:29 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 26) : But Mvovo was also on the receiving end of a huge forward pass. I think it was from Stefan if I’m not mistaken.

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.04.10 16:41:15 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 27) : i`m almost 100% sure it was also JP.

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.04.10 16:43:11 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 27) : listen, i`m also a JP fan, but he`s seriously in need of confidence. against the lions he also overran the ball a few times, then he stops and run back to midfield. could also be that stef is holding on to the ball to long, or that stef is not straitening the line, but then jp should cross behind him and use the space. jp will return to form, i know it, but in the meantime give Mvovu a chance.

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.04.10 16:49:26 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 28) : You’re 100% right – it was also JP. Our passing and catching this Super 14 has been absolutely terrible at times and Stefan has been one of the big culprits of late.

    Look, I’m all for giving Mvovo a chance, because he deserves it. All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t expect too much from the guy.

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.04.10 17:01:57 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Afternoon everyone :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.04.10 17:11:01 by Chaz Reply

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  • @s.h.a.r.k.s (Comment 4) : well i agree with you on this one its always bad to see a player with an injury but lets give the young Mvovo a chance and see what happens hell he played great on sat against the Blue

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.04.10 17:14:33 by Chaz Reply

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  • Thanks for me paper and pen can see its back :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.04.10 17:15:25 by Chaz Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 29) : let’s not beat around the bush – Stef is a PANTS outside centre and he needs to take a fair bit of responsibility or the awful service his wings are (or in some cases aren’t) receiving.

    For the second flipping week in a row he butchered a try by not being able to effect a simple switch pass to Odwa on the inside. I mean, COME ON!

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.04.10 17:33:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : breathe in, breathe out :)

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.04.10 17:34:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • Writing off JP is a mistake. At 23 he has done it all, and that is proof of class. Yes he hasn’t been great so far this season, but which Sharks outside back has?

    The fact is that the inside backs have been poor, and hence those outside them haven’t been given a good attacking platform.

    JP is a superb wing who can tackle, catch, beat a guy for pace or break a tackle – all the best to Mvovo who is a really hot prospect, but believe me, this is a blow.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.04.10 17:36:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 25) :
    Big mistake writing off a youngster when he has hardly had a shot.

    JP himself copped a whole lot of flack as a 19-year old for not having basic skills – but he won a WC already.

    Mvovo is big, fast and aggressive. So what if he doesnt create opportunities for others? He is a wing – he must finish, not create.

    @robdylan (Comment 34) :
    You know how badly I opposed that particular stroke of genius.

    You cant have a kicking player at 13 – he must carry and he must create space.

    Stefan does neither. Stupid selection from the get go.

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.04.10 17:42:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 37) : I’m not writing him off at all.

    I have seen him play a few games at Currie Cup, Vodacom Cup and now S14 level and I think he’s a good wing, but I’m going to stick to my point that he is not going to offer anything mind-blowing.

    JP copped some flack as a 19-year old, but thinking back about when JP came onto the scene, there was already something special about him. As a comparison I wouldn’t put the two in the same class, though.

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.04.10 18:18:26 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : i have to agree with you, but i have to say that JP didnt try anything else when he could have tried to cross or something. But i agree, stef butchered a few chances… Rob, but who will you put in there in his place? Stemmett?

    @Big Fish (Comment 36) : i`m not writing jp off, that actually the last thing i`m doing, but its not a secret that he has lost form. now we gave him about 10 games to rediscover it and it didnt get any better, so i belief in giving the younger guys a chance. in effect, i think the comptetion for places could be healthy.

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.04.10 19:03:39 by VanWilder Reply

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