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Lambie must play flyhalf NOW


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 4 May 2010 at 06:00
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While it’s pretty easy to see that, in taking a dig at Andy Goode’s form over the last few weeks, John Plumtree’s real target was none other than Rudolf Straeuli, the coach has painted himself into a real corner when it comes to team selection for Saturday’s clash against the Stormers.

For those who missed it, Plumtree allegedly declared himself most dissatisfied with the play that has been dished up by the English pivot since joining the Sharks on their Antipodean tour, during the post-match press conference at Loftus on Saturday night. The coach further went on to say that the Sharks need to do better when it comes to procurement and since Commercial Director Straeuli is solely responsible for that aspect, the comment is the clearest indication we’ve yet had that the two don’t get along. Personality clashes aside (and there are always plenty of those where Straeuli is concerned), it couldn’t be clearer that the two simply don’t see eye to eye when it comes to their respective rugby philosophies either, resulting in the Sharks quite simply not having a squad capable of dishing up the sort of rugby that the coach insists on playing.

I’m taking a huge leap of faith here, in assuming that Plumtree and his assistants actually do have a plan, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Whatever the truth, the Sharks, for the umpteenth time this campaign, find themselves quite literally up the creek without a flyhalf. The reasons are myriad, starting with the injuries to Juan Hernandez and Guy Cronje, moving on through the bizarre on-again, off-again retirement of Steve Meyer, the woes of Monty Dumond and the ultimatums of Ruan Pienaar. Fact is, once again, there is only really one flyhalf in the squad – Goode – and Plumtree simply cannot pick him against the Stormers, lest he be guilty of the basest hypocrisy ever.

While Dumond is still very much on the scene, the fact is that Plumtree has simply never rated him and has done the player a huge disservice by preventing him moving on to the Cheetahs, where he had a coaching team prepared to back him and see what he could deliver. Plumtree cannot now pick Dumond either, since he has made his lack of faith in that player palpably clear and the only option left to the coach, given that there is now really nothing to lose, is to pick Patrick Lambie at flyhalf and see what happens.

It is only one of a number of changes that simply have to be made to the Sharks team now, in the interests of putting this disaster of a Super 14 campaign behind them and starting to move on. Stefan Terblanche cannot continue at outside centre and while it is tempting to let him go back to fullback when Lambie moves in, that in itself would be a stopgap and serve no purpose whatsoever. The Sharks have invested a huge amount of time (and lawyers’ fees) in getting Louis Ludik to Durban and it makes sense to bring him straight into the number 15 jersey.

Whatever other changes happen in the backline, though, moving Lambie into the flyhalf jersey is the one that simply has to be made – and made now.



89 Comments

  • Forget pride this week…I think it is time to experiment for the Currie Cup. It hurts to say it, but I think we will lose this battle against the Stormers.

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.05.10 06:07:03 by Butchie Reply
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  • Suggested team for this week (yeah right like Plum would select this team!!):

    15. Ludik
    14. ??
    13. Zuks
    12. Swannepoel
    11. Mvovo
    10. Lambie (lets see if this kid has got Number 10 in his future)
    9. Pienaar
    8. Alberts (if fit, otherwise Downey)
    7. Deysel (if fit, otherwise Rhodes)
    6. Botes (maybe even Ndlovu)
    5. Hargreaves (to captain?)
    4. Sykes
    3. Herbst
    2. Burden
    1. Cilliers (to captain?)

    Bench made up of a few of the young guns from the Sharks XV team.

    Pain point…14 missing.

    We are not pressing the panic button here – but the Super 14 for us is over and we got to look at the future! And the immediate future is no Springboks for the Currie Cup.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.05.10 06:30:46 by Butchie Reply
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  • @Butchie (Comment 2) : Please, Please guys, what about a S14 quality inside center? Sorry Swannie, but the only place for you is Currie/Vodacom Cup
    Any news on JDV?

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.05.10 06:42:43 by catfish Reply
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  • Rob I agree with you on most things,and I think our rugby philosophy is similar, but why the obsession to move Lambie to flyhalf. I have never seen him play at flyhalf, and from what I can gather Guy Cronje was considered a better flyhalf at school (correct me if I am wrong). My question, is due to my thinking that the Springboks and Sharks stuffed up a real talent in Francois Steyn, because they never let him settle in one position and in the end he never knew if he was a centre, flyhalf or fullback and then we castigated him when he stuffed up. Now you have this prodigious talent in Lambie, who in my opinion has the makings of a future Springbok Fullback and you want to move him. He has impressed me with his reading of the game, as well as his courage to take on the opposition. He came through a real baptism of Fire on Saturday and the experience he gained was invaluable for his future development as a player. Now you and a lot of other guys see him as a flyhalf, and again I reiterate I have never seen him play flyhalf, but he seems like the real deal at the back and will get a lot better, so why the change?? Would the Sharks not be better served by trying to source a flyhalf ?

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.05.10 06:46:57 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Butchie (Comment 2) : I agree. The experience these young players can gain will be invaluable for the CC.

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.05.10 06:49:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 4) : I think Lambie is young and talented enough to make the change and if nobody tries him there we might never know what we’ve been missing

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.05.10 06:54:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 4) : Who would you play at flyhalf this weekend?
    And you can’t answer Goode.

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.05.10 06:57:16 by Butchie Reply

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  • Maybe moving Zuks to 14 and Stemmet to 13 could solve my problem.

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.05.10 06:58:33 by Butchie Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 4) : there isn.t a lot of local talented 10′s around to source anyway so take a gamble on Lambie

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.05.10 06:58:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 4) : your argument definitely has merit, Whindy – no doubt about that. I’m also still hopeful that Guy Cronje can come back from his injury and push hard for the Sharks flyhalf berth. The thing about Lambie, though, is that he seems to be one of those “once in a generation” type players that literally could play anywhere. He’s still very young and to my mind, while you’re establishing yourself as a player, you need to play where the team needs you. Once you get a bit older and more established, you can start calling the shots, but right now, the Sharks need Lambie to play flyhalf. We have plenty of other options at fullback, including Louis Ludik who is himself a potential Bok fullback if he can get back to his best.

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.05.10 06:59:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @catfish (Comment 3) : Oh what I would give for a quality flyhalf and inside centre.
    And to think we had two great first/second five-eights in Barritt and Steyn only two years ago…
    But that is in the past.
    Jean de Villiers would be a great addition. But for how long? Are we buying a Bobby Skinstad again?
    I haven’t seen this younger Ebersohn kid that plays flyhalf. Is he any good and are the rumours true of Straueli having offered him a contract?

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.05.10 07:01:25 by Butchie Reply

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  • @Butchie (Comment 7) : Butchie that would be my answer, but if not him I would have Pienaar at flyhalf I rate Ruan as a flyhalf, he gets that backline looking a lot more Fluid and I think everybody gave up on him far to quickly when it came to the flyhalf berth.@robdylan (Comment 10) : Rob , what you say is correct(“need to play where the team needs you”) but didn’t the exact same thing happen to Steyn, which is my argument, yes Luddik is a good player but he is not in the same class as Lambie. But we will agree to disagree. I prefer specialists in a backline not jack of all trades, master of none. A person who plays S14, should be able to play anywhere in the backline, the standard demands it, but if you have quality all round like the Stormers have in there backline (specialists in each position nobody is played out of position), you have results. I think the Bulls have an okay backline but they have a flyhalf playing centre in Jacques-Louis Potgieter and it does not have the quality of the Stormers and for that reason I am saying that the Stormers will take the S14 . The sharks need to get quality players and play them in their preferred position and then you guys will be back at the top.

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.05.10 07:26:45 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Butchie (Comment 11) : Butchie he(Ebersohn) was a brilliant schoolboy flyhalf , but has not been a wunderkind for the Freestate, I believe given the chance he could come good , but the question is how will he handle Durban. these kids from Grey are used to a very disciplined regime and maybe the laid back Durbs, might not be easy for him to fit in??

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.05.10 07:33:26 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 12) : Okay lets leave Goode at flyhalf (don’t know how he’ll feel after the coaches comments in the media), but what do we do in the Currie Cup season? That is why I would experiment now.
    We got nothing to lose. We lost our pride ages ago…losing against the Cheetahs and scrapping through against the Lions.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.05.10 07:51:15 by Butchie Reply

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  • And Ruan at flyhalf…I thought he doesn’t want to play flyhalf? If he doesn’t want to, lets not force him. No quicker way than that to lose him. So many good scrumhalves though!

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.05.10 07:55:41 by Butchie Reply

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  • Good morning all.
    I was at the game Saturday. In the fortress they call Loftus, I sat and watched my team apply good pressure during the first 40. But unfortunately no pressure in the second 40. What I actually want to get at is: (I could obviously not hear the post match interviews.) This has been bothering me since Sunday morning, because of the massive amount of support the Sharks had. We were there at around 15h00 and it was packed. I just want to say a BIG UP to all the Sharks Supporters coming out in the torrid rain, to see your beloved 10th placed team square up against probably the most hated union in SA , but never the less, 1st placed team. And the Sharks supporters really made their presence felt (I’m guessing it was about 55% Bulls to 45% Sharks). WELL DONE GUYS!!!! My only question is, did John thank us?????????

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.05.10 08:02:23 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 16) : I think John was pretty gutted as well as stuffed, so maybe you can forgive him :lol:

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.05.10 08:24:58 by Whindy Reply
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  • I believe the rumour linking Sias Ebersohn to the Sharks is a spurious one. It comes from the same person who believes john mitchell will be coaching the lions in the currie cup

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.05.10 08:47:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :

    “The thing about Lambie, though, is that he seems to be one of those “once in a generation” type players that literally could play anywhere.”

    So was Frans Steyn – before you drove him out of Durban with a bunch of pitch forks.

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.05.10 08:47:37 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : And what about the story that Plum is taking a “sabbatical” during the Currie Cup?

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.05.10 08:49:58 by Butchie Reply

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  • Leave Lambie at 15. Let him settle there.

    Monty can’t be worse than Goode.

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.05.10 08:55:04 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 19) : It was the lure of the Euro that had Steyn sprinting out of Durban.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.05.10 08:58:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 19) : I don’t agree. Steyn had won a WC and a CC and he was just chasing the money.

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.05.10 08:59:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 22) :

    @Pokkel (Comment 23) :

    I suggest you both go back a read the archives on this site – Steyn cops a fair amount ( actually a shed load of flack ) for the Sharks being so kak.

    Of course from your perspective that has no bearing on him leaving. :twisted:

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.05.10 09:01:39 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 19) :
    So true.
    I mean here is a guy that played flyhalf at some stage of his school career, who is now showing huge promise as a fullback and now he must play at flyhalf because he has the potential to be a good flyhalf, that being based on his based on his fullback play.
    Lets not forget that both Pienaar and Goode are international flyhalves and if they are battling to get the job done then what chance has Lambie really got.

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.05.10 09:04:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • eishh Rob, why scratch where it does not itch. :???:

    leave lambie at Fb, he is doing just fine there.

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.05.10 09:09:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 24) : Frans was never and will never be a flyhalf IMHO and he was critisized while at 10 where he never should have been in the first place….and he had enough gametime with the Sharks and the Boks to prove he can be a flyhalf and it just didn’t work.

    And yes I did see that one game that he played brilliant rugby for the Sharks against WP in the wet in Durban and he was sublime that day….but he was also a lot more agile and probably weighed 15kg’s less

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.05.10 09:10:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 19) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.05.10 09:11:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 24) : I agree, there were lots of people on this very site baying for his blood, now that he has left he is a mercenary!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.05.10 09:31:01 by Whindy Reply
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  • NO don’t agree moving Lambie this week or ever. That is the very reason we lost Frans Steyn. Now we get another super talented younster and want to move him around already!! Nah, just stupid if you ask me. Just look at a few of the S14 teams of the week on Rugby 365, Lambie has made it a few times as the pick of week as the best FB and last week was bubbling under in second place. A kiwi got it last week. Though he was selected the best in the saffa sides. So now why must we move this talented FB to FH?

    As far as I know the last time Lambie played FH was at u15′s at school. Not sure if this is correct, but if it is, we can not play him at FH this week. He has been playing damn brilliant at FB. Ludik has not played with this team the whole of the S14? Now why rush him in for a game we going to lose anyway? We need centres and yes, a FH but let us think about next year and get the right players for there.

    Now hope people can see what we had in Frans Steyn now that he is gone. Swannie is NEVER the same level as Frans Steyn at inside centre. Zuks should be given a chance at outside centre this week too. Mvovo should have been starting from the very start too.

    On Straeuli why the heck do we have him at the Sharks? Such a embarrassment to have him really after his huge mess up with the Boks. Think he must be a control freak too. No wonder Plum probably does not get on with this oke.

    With all our injuries we never going to beat Stormers. Maybe if we never had any injuries we just might have.

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.05.10 10:00:17 by Puma Reply

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  • My issues with frans were all about attitude, not talent. Lambie is a different animal altogether as numerous people who know both players have confirmed

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.05.10 10:10:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • I`m with Puma on this one.
    Leave Lambie at FB. Playing FH now against one of the best backlines in the competition would only dent his confidence.
    We don`t want another Gaffie do we?

    We know we haven`t got a chance this weekend anyway. So stick with Goode. At least he can put some kicks over for us so we won`t end up with a duck . . .

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.05.10 10:20:41 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 30) : Puma I agree with most of what you say especially regarding Frans and wanting to play Lambie at flyhalf.
    I think your dislike for Straueli regarding the Staaldrad episode is influencing your perception of him. Realistically can you or anyone for that matter give name one local or international flyhalf who he could have signed to replace JM Hernandez and then Steve Meyer. Ive pondered that many time and also asked the question a few time s and no answers are forthcoming.

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.05.10 10:34:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Leave Lambie @ 15, Frans Steyn was a Flop @ 10, this kid will become a great, so let him settle ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.05.10 10:37:06 by Charlie Reply

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  • back from hiatus…i told you skullet should’ve never been granted a work permit, now plum is throwing his toys…why did he not say it at the beginning? Doesn’t straueli sit with the coach & ask “what kind of player do you want to suit YOUR gameplan coach?”

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.05.10 10:43:27 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 35) :
    One would think so.

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.05.10 10:45:50 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 36) : one would, but it doesn’t happen, to the best of my knowledge.

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.05.10 11:00:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 35) : what’s Hiatus like this time of year? Have they recovered from the earthquake? :)

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.05.10 11:01:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • ok, so can somebody please just tell me who the Sharks are going to use at flyhalf for
    a) this weekend’s match
    b) the Currie Cup season
    c) The Super 15 next year?

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.05.10 11:04:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • if I’m getting a little worked up here, it’s cos I’m being told that using Lambie at 10 is “stupid”, but I’m not seeing any other workable suggestions. Face facts, guys, you can’t play rugby without a flyhalf…

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.05.10 11:05:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • I would just tell Ruan to go play flyhalf for the remaining matches and give Kockott a run as starting scrummie. The side could be (assuming the injury list remains as is):

    1. Smit
    2. Burden
    3. duP
    4. Sykes
    5. Hargreaves
    6. Botes
    7. Daniel
    8. Kanko
    9. Kockott
    10. Pienaar
    11. Mvovs
    12. Swannie
    13. Stefan
    14. Nungane
    15. Lambie

    16. Steenkamp
    17. Beast
    18. Rhodes
    19. Strauss
    20. Vulindlu
    21. Stemmet
    22. Dumond

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.05.10 11:07:15 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Rob, Lambie will in all probability not play flyhalf this weekend or against the force, barring an injury to Goode but I do expect him to play there in the Currie Cup and for the record I agree that Lambie should play at ten this weekend, just dont think he will be selected there

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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : :mrgreen: ur a clown

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  • @war1 (Comment 42) : because the coach can’t see further than the fact that he might make a mistake…

    Meanwhile he has (publicly) berated Goode for not being up to it and implicitly done the same to Dumond, by dropping him after one match.

    I say again that moving Pienaar to flyhalf is also not a sensible long-term solution because he does not want to play there. Lambie, according to my information, is completely open to the idea of playing flyhalf.

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.05.10 11:14:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Things would have been so much easier if Ruan actually BELIEVED in himself as a flyhalf because then he would have been playing there all along. Play him there for the last 2 games (it will be good for him because if he makes the Bok team he will probably cover 9 and 10) When the Currie Cup comes around Cronje should be fit again and then we have no option but to trust and back him to the hilt.
    Man there really are not many options at flyhalf in SA available at the moment.

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.05.10 11:19:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : Plum is too conservative.

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 45) : that’s why you need to make one :)

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.05.10 11:39:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : Yes we could have had JLP if we WOKE up soon enough. Now he is with the Bulls mostly sitting on the bench. Think he is a massive talent. Should have worked quick to get him. Also why the heck did we not sign J. Fourie? He approched the Sharks before Stormers? Think he is making a HUGE, HUGE difference to that team. So is Burger though he is playing like a free spirit this year :grin: if I have to mentioned it that way :oops: Damn Burger is playing the best rugby I have ever seen him play. No yellow cards this year either. Salute to him. Hope he brings that A game to the Boks too. Always have rated him though last year with different laws well not really different but different..hehehe. Brussow edged him there.

    Anyhow back to the subject, we could have had JLP. NOW that would have been a awesome signing for FH. A saffa too and young. We missed the boat again. I blame Straeuli. Don’t like him really. Why is he at the Sharks? I see him about where I live and the oke is so big headed.

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.05.10 11:50:14 by Puma Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : plum is too afraid of making a mistake, muir doesnt care if he makes a mistake, they were a good combo

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.05.10 11:53:31 by war1 Reply
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  • Rob, are you still here? Want to tell you some news.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.05.10 11:58:07 by Puma Reply

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  • Rob, all press about Plum yesterday knocking Goode seems to be totally nonsense. Seems the press twisted it.

    Go to RT and Read on the Locks Thread. Blouste has got some news on it there so has gbs. Gbs was there for the interview and said Plums said nothing of the sort. Maybe we can put a thread up here to clear Plums name up for that. Felt maybe the press got it wrong with him. Plum is one decent man for sure.

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.05.10 12:01:19 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 51) : certainly very out of character for Plum to reveal ANYTHING at a press conference :mrgreen:

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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) :
    Make one out of a flank or prop if you want ;-) , but leave a very promising fullback to realise his potential.

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.05.10 12:06:18 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 51) : ok – have read that now. You’re right in that we need to “clear his name”, if you like, but to my mind, 90% of the stuff that’s been said about the flyhalf mess holds water in any event.

  • Comment 54, posted at 04.05.10 12:07:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : Rob, Thanks just clear Plums name. These journos are vicious just twisting things. Plum is a decent bloke and after I read it yesterday actually had doubts. Now see it was nonsense. Thanks bud for checking it out.

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.05.10 12:10:05 by Puma Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 53) : If Lambie is willing why not give shot at 10…he might just be the next Gitau or Carter for all we know if it doesn’t work then play him at 15. Many great players have moved around in the backline. carter and Gitau have both played centre. larkham was a fullback that converted to 10. Get Lambie a foolproof contract for 10 years ;-) and at least TRY him at 10

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.05.10 12:11:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : Rob, We should have had JLP if we acted swift. We lost out now look such a massive talent sitting on the bench for the Bulls. Though think they going to play in again at outside centre this week. He was superb there last week. Though shifting back and forward time to time while playing with WO from 13 to 12. Still think JLP is a FH and a fantastic one too. Also now if we had JF????? Should have could have. :roll:

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.05.10 12:14:51 by Puma Reply

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  • Lets give Nonu a go at F** half :!: :lol:

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  • @Volstruis (Comment 58) : :lol:

  • Comment 59, posted at 04.05.10 12:35:11 by Puma Reply

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  • @Volstruis (Comment 58) : Did you read Nonu’s interview :lol:

  • Comment 60, posted at 04.05.10 12:37:05 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 57) : The Bulls are shifting JLP around between 10,12 and 13….I don’t see anybody moaning about that :roll:

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.05.10 12:41:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 60) : Yes :mrgreen: what a chop!!! hahaha

  • Comment 62, posted at 04.05.10 12:43:12 by Volstruis Reply

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  • I’d rather see the Sharks losing all their games rather than having JLP at fh or any position for that matter.

    Jannie Dup is one freestater too many.

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.05.10 13:00:44 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 48) :
    I dont think JLP was ever in the picture, he was signed by the Bulls during the CC, we had signed JM Hernandez and he was a contender until just before the S14 started this year so I dont believe he (JLP) was ever an option – I dont know why there is talk that he was an option -maybe its because he is one of the few Flyhalves to have made a move.
    As for Jacques Fourie, I cant imagine that anyone would not jump at having him in their side if they had the chance of signing him. I have heard it on many occassions that Fourie is in Cape Town because that is where his wife wants to be.

    Next time you see Straueli in your area greet him with a smile, you might be surprised at the result. :lol:

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.05.10 13:09:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 56) :
    Fair enough, give him a shot but do it in a Currie Cup game, but preferably in a club game – not the S14.

  • Comment 65, posted at 04.05.10 13:19:55 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 65) : but this Super 14 game has about as much importance to us as a club game would…

  • Comment 66, posted at 04.05.10 13:35:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 64) : you’re spot on… I certainly never heard ANY talk linking JLP to the Sharks.

    Willem de Waal, yes. JLP no.

  • Comment 67, posted at 04.05.10 13:36:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • As far as I know JLP moved to PTA for family reasons none other.
    And obvisouly to play for the bulls but family was the main reason, so he would have never ever joined the Sharks anyway.

  • Comment 68, posted at 04.05.10 13:47:58 by Uli Reply
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  • and yes I think the Sharks did let JF slip through their hands.
    Now I do for some reason other than my dream the other night, I have a very good feeling that the Sharks are going to get the services of JDV.
    We do how ever also need a FH, and who will it be??? Bash is playing excellent at the moment I must add.

  • Comment 69, posted at 04.05.10 13:52:30 by Uli Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) :
    Not to me it does’nt. :twisted:

  • Comment 70, posted at 04.05.10 14:13:04 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) :
    Wow, Willem de Waal, I never heard of that one.

  • Comment 71, posted at 04.05.10 14:15:07 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : Rob, please there no need to stress us even more with these sort of horrendous rumours :roll: ;-)

    though, after thinking it through – De Waal may just fit in with this kicking culture that Sharks are developing lately :twisted:

  • Comment 72, posted at 04.05.10 14:32:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 71) : it was ages ago, guys… during the Putt era. De Waal was leaving the Bulls and was on the verge of signing with the Sharks when Andre Markgraaff of all people talked him out of it. He went to Free State instead.

  • Comment 73, posted at 04.05.10 14:34:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 73) : ok, just to correct that a little. Back in 2004. De Waal was actually contracted to the Leopards, but had represented the Bulls in the 2004 Super 12. He was on the verge of joining the Sharks for the Currie Cup that year, but on Markgraaff’s recommendation joined the Cheetahs instead.

    As a result, we ended up with the incomparable Conrad “Barries” Barnard

  • Comment 74, posted at 04.05.10 14:38:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : that was the year we went on to lose 30-13 to the Pumas in the Currie Cup…

    Anyone remember the name Albertus Mulder? Apparently played flank for the Sharks, but I just cannot picture him.

  • Comment 75, posted at 04.05.10 14:52:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 73) : @robdylan (Comment 74) :
    I can hardly remember that far back,, and a lot of what I can remember I block out intentionaly

  • Comment 76, posted at 04.05.10 14:53:55 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) :
    No but I remember

  • Comment 77, posted at 04.05.10 14:56:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 76) : it was a funny period for me… that was around the time I was getting married and stuff… about the only time in the last 20 years (or so) that I gave the Sharks less than 150% of my time and attention :)

  • Comment 78, posted at 04.05.10 15:02:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 78) :
    Rugby loyalties must take a back seat sometimes, marriage and child births (your own families)are such times, other than that rugby rulz.

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.05.10 15:34:07 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Afternoon everyone :mrgreen:
    its good to be back :smile:

    but dead afraid on LMS :cry:
    But like everyone the game is still on eeee ;-)

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.05.10 15:39:34 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 80) : hello, which team killed you ? (and welcome to my world :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 04.05.10 15:41:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • Well agree S14 is over for us so go with the Lambie at 10
    i still tend to agree with Rob with that lets see what he has at 10 for CC :mrgreen:
    And just maybe he makes a better 10 than a 15 ;-) who nows what the stars have in for us

  • Comment 82, posted at 04.05.10 15:42:59 by Chaz Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 81) : SNOILS :evil: :twisted: team eee
    im afraid and its good to see that you arn’t loney anymore
    ;-)

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.05.10 15:44:33 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 79) : didn’t help that it coincided with a point in time when it simply wasn’t worth watching the Sharks ;)

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.05.10 15:57:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 83) : sneaky Snoils :lol: oh no no no – I was not lonely – plenty of LMS loosers around here :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.05.10 16:05:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 85) : oh gee :sad: and me thought you wanted me dead :lol: dame snoils see what you did could of gone with the cheetahs and still be alive ;-)

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.05.10 16:07:47 by Chaz Reply

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  • Till later me friends ;-)

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.05.10 16:08:33 by Chaz Reply

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  • @Chaz (Comment 86) : I did want you dead :lol: In fact I wanted everybody dead before me.

    Ya, disappointed in snoiLs – can anybody put them out their misery :roll:

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.05.10 16:11:00 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 87) : cheerioooooooooooooooooo, ohohoho :razz:

  • Comment 89, posted at 04.05.10 16:11:35 by rekinek Reply
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